Trane's Precedent Models

[Iove doII]

I'm looking for input or feedback from anyone who's installed these, packaged
heat pumps or gas/electrics. Installed, serviced, repaired, etc.
Any known problems with the Relia-Tel Microprocessor ? Particularily
interested in the 7.5 and 10 ton models.

thanks

http://www.trane.com/commercial/equipment/precedent.asp

[Rick Berryman]

I just started up a few our co. installed on Walgreens. They are built
well, except for the outside air economizers. Trane didn't do great there,
and Honeywell has some problems with their modules. Other than defective
economizers on 4 of 6 units, they started perfectly.

"Iove doII" <iove...@aol.comnospam> wrote in message
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[Acrobat]

There *IS* a service bulletin out on Precedent Relia-Tel microprocessors. I
don't have a copy
of it here at home, but I probably still have the e-preview of it at work -
I remember that one
because the list of affected units looked (size-wise) rather like the latest
copy of the Greater Houston
Metropolitan Area Yellow Pages.

I'll send myself a reminder to look this up for you when I go back in on
Monday.

Acrobat
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[Iove doII]

Thanks Acrobat, I'd appreciate that.
My sales rep did indicate a few weeks ago there had been more than a few
"issues" with the first generation boards..

>Subject: Re: Trane's Precedent Models
>From: "Acrobat" acr...@ev1.net
>Date: 2/8/2003 10:24 AM Pacific Standard Time
>Message-id: <v4aimdh...@corp.supernews.com>

>
>There *IS* a service bulletin out on Precedent Relia-Tel microprocessors. I
>don't have a copy
>of it here at home, but I probably still have the e-preview of it at work -
>I remember that one
>because the list of affected units looked (size-wise) rather like the latest
>copy of the Greater Houston
>Metropolitan Area Yellow Pages.
>
>I'll send myself a reminder to look this up for you when I go back in on
>Monday.
>
>Acrobat
>-----------

>>>> snip<<<<

[Acrobat]

There were [3] general service bulletins released over the first year
or so that those RTRM and RTCI boards were on the market. I've set up
a temporary page on my personal (band) website where you can download
these bulletins in Adobe Acrobat -- no relation ;) -- (.pdf) format.

The reader is a free download if you don't already have it. I've also
included a bulletin having to do with the economizer, since someone
mentioned having trouble at startup on a few of those... I'll leave
this page up for a couple of weeks or so then it'll go away. Hope it
helps!

http://www.roarshak.com/reliatel.html

Acrobat
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My other e-mail address ends in "@trane.com"

iove...@aol.comnospam (Iove doII) wrote in message news:<20030209014825...@mb-bd.aol.com>...

[Acrobat]

I've just posted a message with a link to a download page with these
service bulletins. Hope it helps.

For future reference, if you have any issues on these or other Trane
(COMMERCIAL) units, you can call the appropriate Trane factory's
toll-free line and ask for someone in tech support. Here's a brief
guide to what's made where and how to get ahold of them. The Precedent
units were made in Clarksville, TN (1-866-230-7646):

TRANE OFFICES & PRODUCTS

*LA CROSSE, WI
CENTRAVAC & ABSORBTION SYSTEMS
PRODUCTS: CTV, CVHA, CVHB, CVHC, CVHE, OCV, LOCV, PCV, & CV
FOR TECHNICAL SERVICE, etc. 1-877-457-6276

*PUEBLO, CO
WATER CHILLER SYSTEMS
PRODUCTS: RTHA, RTHB, RTAA, CVAA, CVAB, CVAC, & CVAD
CGAC 150-200 TONS (NOTE 10-120 TON SEE CLARKSVILLE)
CG, CGM, CGOA, CGWA-D, CC, CCM, CCOA, CCUA, CCAA-D, CCWA-C, HFC, HEC,
HCUA, RWUA-D, CUAA-D, CCKA-C, CGRA-C, CGHA-C
FOR TECHNICAL SERVICE, etc. 1-888-244-5537

*MACON, GA
SELF CONTAINED SYSTEMS
PRODUCTS: SWUD, SRUA, SWUA, LPCA 20-60 TONS
FOR TECHNICAL SERVICE, etc. 1-800-322-6495

*CLARKSVILLE, TN
AIR COOLED SYSTEMS
PRODUCTS: S*HA, S*HC, S*HD, S*HE, S*ZA, S*ZB, W*HA, W*ZA, RA, RAUA,
RAUB, RAUC, 20-120 TONS, BRCA, BRCB, BH, DX CHILLER BARRELS, 20-120
TONS
PACKAGE COOLING SYSTEMS
SAHB, SEHB, SFHB, SBHB, ALL 20-25 TONS
FOR TECHNICAL SERVICE, etc. 1-866-230-7646

*LEXINGTON, KY
AIR HANDLING SYSTEMS
PRODUCTS: CLIMATE CHANGERS, MCCA, CCDB, PENTHOUSE CLIMATE CHANGERS,
PCC
FOR TECHNICAL SERVICE, etc. 1-800-228-1666

*ST. PAUL, MN
TRACER, VAV'S, TIM-E, SCP, PCM, BASd
24 HR RESPONSE 1-800-328-9677
FOR TECHNICAL SERVICE, etc. 1-800-872-2371

*RUSHVILLE, IN
VAV SYSTEMS
PRODUCTS: ALL VARITRANE VAV AIR VALVES AND TERMINALS, BYC, VCCC,
VFEC, DCCA
FOR TECHNICAL SERVICE, etc. 1-800-366-1828

SCRANTON 1-800-326-7711
ST. LOUIS 1-800-872-6399
CHARLOTTE (SFI) 1-800-837-7849
WACO 1-800-445-6573
SQUARE D SUPPORT (SQUARE D) 919-217-6535
SQUARE D SUPPORT (CLARKSVILLE) 931-905-5341

Acrobat
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Yes, my other e-mail address ends in "@trane.com"

iove...@aol.comnospam (Iove doII) wrote in message news:<20030209014825...@mb-bd.aol.com>...

[Ken Williams]

Wow, how did you ever get all that info? Sounds like stuff trane wouldn't
want us to know.
kw

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[Ken Williams]

How about that micro book they put out. A buddy of mine bought it but it's
too many pages to copy. Can you throw that up too?

"Acrobat" <acr...@roarshak.com> wrote in message
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[Acrobat]

I work in Commercial (Service) Sales for Trane.

None of this information is top secret, tho...
Heck, the stuff below was cut and pasted off a handout
that's included in the handbook given to every field tech.
There's plenty of good information available from the manufacturers
if you know the right way to go about getting it.
In my experience when people don't get the info. they
need it's usually because they're not asking the right people.

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[Acrobat]

What's the literature #? If it's on Eagle or TraneNet and it's not
proprietary, I'll post it.

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[Ken Williams]

I'll ask and post back in here.
Thanks

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[Ken Williams]

I really figured Trane wouldn't want those numbers out in the public. Are
contractors allowed to call the factory tech support lines? I tried to call
Siemens once and they told me to call my local rep since the 1-800 number I
found was for their techs to use only.
kw

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[RWatson767]

Acrobat
> Trane's Precedent Models

What's the literature #? If it's on Eagle or TraneNet and it's not proprietary,
I'll post it.

Is the service information or schematic for the Trane thermostat XT500C
available?
Thanks
Bob AZ

[Acrobat]

I mainly deal with Commercial *equipment*, but I did find an Owner's
Guide for this stat, publication # 22-5128-02, which I'm adding to the
temporary page I set up for the reliatel downloads:

http://www.roarshak.com/reliatel.html

I don't know if you already have this or how helpful it is, but you
can also call Trane's toll-free "Thermostat Customer Assistance
Helpline" (I'm pretty sure since this is primarily a residential stat
that this # goes to the Tyler plant) - at 1 (877) 880-3381. Hours are
Mon-Fri, 7:00am-5:30pm Central time.

rwats...@aol.com (RWatson767) wrote:

>> Acrobat

[RWatson767]

Acrobat
>Trane's Precedent Models

but I did find an Owner's Guide for this stat, publication # 22-5128-02, which

I'm adding to the temporary page I set up for the reliatel downloads:

I have the original book that came with the system but was looking for the
schematic etc. And I knew about the download version.
Thanks
Bob AZ

[Acrobat]

Trane accomplishes much the same thing by changing those numbers every so
often.

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