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turtle4air

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Nov 11, 1999, 3:00:00 AM11/11/99
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On Mon, 15 Nov 1999 10:51:56 -0500 "larry" <m...@here.com> wrote:
> I have a Heil forced hot air heating system that is about 8 years old. When
> the air comes on the whole house starts to smell. My heating service
> company said that the heat exchanger is cracked and needs replacement and
> this is a typical lifespan for the Heil unit that I have. My question is
> does anyone have any knowledge of heil heat exchangers only lasting seven
> years?
>
>

this is turtle.

you heat exchanger is still under warrenty and smelling up the house
caused by crack
heat exchanger . well i don't think so , you have something else wrong
there. relook at problem again.

20 to 30 years is normal in my book.

TURTLE

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larry

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Nov 15, 1999, 3:00:00 AM11/15/99
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Brian S-

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Nov 15, 1999, 3:00:00 AM11/15/99
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Hi Larry,

I wouldn't say any heat exchanger typically last only 8 yrs, and I
have never had a cracked heat exchanger give off a smell. You're heat
exchanger is still under warranty. If they know it is only 8 yrs old,
and if they're honest, they will volunteer that info (too many guys
today will not even mention warranty).

Brian

HORACE DOUGLAS HUNT JR

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Nov 15, 1999, 3:00:00 AM11/15/99
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hi larry,although i dont install heil systems,i can say that the normal lifespan
of a heat exchanger is not 7 yrs.if the system is cracked then your limited
warranty should cover it.also you can have a smoke test done to your system to
see if their is a crack in the system.cracked heat exchangers are not the only
reason smells can enter the home.check your warranty and seek another opinion.

Murdentech

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Nov 15, 1999, 3:00:00 AM11/15/99
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Heil is manufactured by International Comfort Products, the minimum heat
exchanger warranty is 20 years, lifetime for stainless steel exchanger. It
is highly unlikely (but not impossible) that your exchanger is cracked in
only 8 years. Even if it is, it won't cause your house to smell, something
else is wrong.

Your contractor needs replacing, not your furnace. Don't allow them to take
you to the cleaners.

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MechAcc

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Nov 16, 1999, 3:00:00 AM11/16/99
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> this is turtle.
>
> you heat exchanger is still under warrenty and smelling up the house
> caused by crack
> heat exchanger . well i don't think so , you have something else
wrong
> there. relook at problem again.
>
> 20 to 30 years is normal in my book.
>
> TURTLE

If he has 90 percenter could be he never got the stainless steel
burner updates. He could have cracked primary heat exchanger or a
sooted up secondary and a set of very dirty burning burners.
If you have a 90 percent efficiency furnace make sure the
technician gets a set of stainless steel burners. You might want to
also have the tech install the fan timer kit P/N 1000563. This will
turn the circulator blower on quicker than the fan limit switch.


Gary Reecher AKA MechAcc
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W.L. Alexander

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Nov 17, 1999, 3:00:00 AM11/17/99
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Replaced a Heil heat exchanger last year that was 7 years old at the time,
it was a gas pack. Seems like Heil replacement parts are a little high
also. But I still use their villager line of condensing units on mobile
homes.

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Murdentech

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Nov 17, 1999, 3:00:00 AM11/17/99
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I haven't used Villager at all, won't touch it. would rather use Janitrol.
Just don't like that compact round condenser, have worked on a few and
cussed the whole way. I've changed several Janitrol compressors without much
adu.

Have you had any problems with Villager??? Ever had to change a compressor
on one, I just can imagine it's a real b*tch. The warranty isn't worth a
hoot either.

Jeff Murden


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Sonofdawra

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Nov 17, 1999, 3:00:00 AM11/17/99
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>I have a Heil forced hot air heating system that is about 8 years old. When
>the air comes on the whole house starts to smell.

Possibly might be a problem where the insulation linner in the cabinet has come
loose and is touching the heat exchanger. Thus the smell when it heats up.
York had a problem like this with some furnaces made a few years ago. Any
manufacturer can have an isolated problem like this ----usually caused by an
employee at the factory with a problem :o)

Have a nice day, Ron

TSA

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Nov 17, 1999, 3:00:00 AM11/17/99
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Just for you information the villager as we know it is no more. Just
got info on ICP changes that will be made soon. The CA series is being
redesigned and the new villager will look like the old CA series. The
replacement units for the CA series will have full five years on parts
and 10 yrs on compressor and a two speed fan and that includes the 10
seer units. Product will be ready to ship by next cooling season. If
you want more info give me a call. The new units will be easy to
service. The control panel will be tilted on a 45 degree angle for
easy access. Our people who went to the meeting came back with very
positive feedback on the changes.

On Wed, 17 Nov 1999 03:01:29 -0500, "Murdentech"
<rjmu...@murdentech.com> wrote:

>I haven't used Villager at all, won't touch it. would rather use Janitrol.
>Just don't like that compact round condenser, have worked on a few and
>cussed the whole way. I've changed several Janitrol compressors without much
>adu.
>
>Have you had any problems with Villager??? Ever had to change a compressor
>on one, I just can imagine it's a real b*tch. The warranty isn't worth a
>hoot either.
>
>Jeff Murden
>
>
>W.L. Alexander <ie...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>news:01bf30b0$87377840$64dd0fd0@default...
>> Replaced a Heil heat exchanger last year that was 7 years old at the time,
>> it was a gas pack. Seems like Heil replacement parts are a little high
>> also. But I still use their villager line of condensing units on mobile
>> homes.
>>
>> larry <m...@here.com> wrote in article <HZVX3.78$lR4.927@client>...

>> > I have a Heil forced hot air heating system that is about 8 years old.
>> When

Appel Heating & A/C

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Nov 17, 1999, 3:00:00 AM11/17/99
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TSA wrote:
>
> Just for you information the villager as we know it is no more. Just
> got info on ICP changes that will be made soon. The CA series is being
> redesigned and the new villager will look like the old CA series. The
> replacement units for the CA series will have full five years on parts
> and 10 yrs on compressor and a two speed fan and that includes the 10
> seer units. Product will be ready to ship by next cooling season. If
> you want more info give me a call. The new units will be easy to
> service. The control panel will be tilted on a 45 degree angle for
> easy access. Our people who went to the meeting came back with very
> positive feedback on the changes.

That sounds great. Those Villagers had to be the cheapest built unit out
there, noisy too. I was so glad when Arcoaire/Comfortmaker ditched that
design only to see them pop up elsewhere in the company.

Got any pictures or info on the new unit?


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Murdentech

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Nov 18, 1999, 3:00:00 AM11/18/99
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Someone at ICP is finally starting to listen to those of us out in the
field, eh? It about time. Keep up the good work and thanks for the holiday
greetings. Although you do have a twisted sense of humor.!!! :)

Jeff


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>
>
> On Wed, 17 Nov 1999 21:23:21 -0500, Appel Heating & A/C <ap...@in.net>
> wrote:
>
> >TSA wrote:
> >>
> >> Just for you information the villager as we know it is no more. Just
> >> got info on ICP changes that will be made soon. The CA series is being
> >> redesigned and the new villager will look like the old CA series. The
> >> replacement units for the CA series will have full five years on parts
> >> and 10 yrs on compressor and a two speed fan and that includes the 10
> >> seer units. Product will be ready to ship by next cooling season. If
> >> you want more info give me a call. The new units will be easy to
> >> service. The control panel will be tilted on a 45 degree angle for
> >> easy access. Our people who went to the meeting came back with very
> >> positive feedback on the changes.
> >
> >That sounds great. Those Villagers had to be the cheapest built unit out
> >there, noisy too. I was so glad when Arcoaire/Comfortmaker ditched that
> >design only to see them pop up elsewhere in the company.
> >
> >Got any pictures or info on the new unit?
>
>

> I am working on getting more information and also the PowerPoints they
> used at the meeting. If I can get them I will let you know.

TSA

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blaz...@hotmail.com (TSA) pondered an excessively long time, and
wrote:

>I am working on getting more information and also the PowerPoints they
>used at the meeting. If I can get them I will let you know.

According to one of my managers, PowerPoint is a sufficient
design environment to sell a product to a client ;-)


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