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Paul Magnussen

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Jan 14, 2012, 7:50:27 PM1/14/12
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Is there an HTML character entity reference for the Polish letter that
looks like a lower-case "l" crossed through, please?

I can't seem to find it.

Thanks,

Paul Magnussen

Ben Bacarisse

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Jan 14, 2012, 8:21:36 PM1/14/12
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Paul Magnussen <magic...@earthlink.net> writes:

> Is there an HTML character entity reference for the Polish letter that
> looks like a lower-case "l" crossed through, please?
>
> I can't seem to find it.

There isn't one, in so far as "character entity reference" refers to the
limited set of "named" characters. Instead, you can use a numeric
character reference like &#x142; or (if you can have your document
served with an encoding that includes it) you can just enter the
character into the page like any other.

The real problem is often not how to enter the character into a document,
but whether it will be shown by a browser. In this case the character
is not particularly obscure, so I think you will be fine.

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Ben.

Hot-Text

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Jan 14, 2012, 11:38:34 PM1/14/12
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"Paul Magnussen" <magic...@earthlink.net> wrote in message news:vpOdncIIz65Iv4_S...@earthlink.com...
Basic Latin/Georgia ;&#322; &#x0142;

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Jukka K. Korpela

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Jan 15, 2012, 2:40:35 AM1/15/12
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2012-01-15 3:21, Ben Bacarisse wrote:
> Paul Magnussen<magic...@earthlink.net> writes:
>
>> Is there an HTML character entity reference for the Polish letter that
>> looks like a lower-case "l" crossed through, please?
>>
>> I can't seem to find it.
>
> There isn't one, in so far as "character entity reference" refers to the
> limited set of "named" characters.

Unfortunately, there is now, if it suffices for existence to be present
in HTML5 drafts and implemented in a major browser. I mention this only
to warn about them - they add no expressive power, they are confusingly
something between half-mnemonic and completely cryptic, and they
introduce browser dependency for no good reason. (And they call them
“named character references” to declare their formal independence of
SGML and XML.)

I’m afraid the idea looks sufficiently high-tech and cool to lure
authors into writing, say, “Wa&lstrok;&eogon;sa” and getting high at
seeing a name appearing properly (Wałęsa) on their up-to-date Firefox,
without realizing that most users will see literally “Wa&lstrok;&eogon;sa”.

> Instead, you can use a numeric
> character reference like &#x142; or (if you can have your document
> served with an encoding that includes it) you can just enter the
> character into the page like any other.

Right. And either way, http://www.alanwood.net/unicode/#links is of
great help in identifying the Unicode number of the character. The
number is useful both for determining the character reference to be used
and for entering the character itself e.g. via Character Map in Windows
or via some key combination.

In this case, the character is in the Latin Extended-A block, which
covers most of Latin letters used in European languages beyond the very
basic A to Z (which are in Basic Latin) and the extensions needed for
Northern and Western European languages (Latin-1 Supplement). That is,
Latin Extended-A was designed to cover the additional letters used in
Polish, Czech, Hungarian, Maltese etc. etc.

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Yucca, http://www.cs.tut.fi/~jkorpela/

Paul Magnussen

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Jan 15, 2012, 2:42:06 PM1/15/12
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Ben Bacarisse wrote:

> There isn't one, in so far as "character entity reference" refers to the
> limited set of "named" characters. Instead, you can use a numeric
> character reference like &#x142; or (if you can have your document
> served with an encoding that includes it) you can just enter the
> character into the page like any other.

Thanks to everyone who replied. I needed the character for a composer's
name in my review of Julian Bream's "Lute Music from the Royal Courts of
Europe" on Amazon.

&#x142; seems to work fine, at least it does on FireFox, Safari, Opera &
Internet Explorer.

If anyone:

a) uses a different browser,
b) cares enough to check, and
c) finds it doesn't work,

perhaps they'd be kind enough to let me know.

Paul Magnussen

MVP

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Jan 29, 2012, 12:35:37 PM1/29/12
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I suggest looking at the charmap tool in Windows where you can select, cut
and paste any symbol from UNICODE

just make sure your site is UTF-8



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Jukka K. Korpela

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Jan 29, 2012, 1:35:27 PM1/29/12
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2012-01-29 19:35, MVP wrote:

> I suggest looking at the charmap tool in Windows where you can select,
> cut and paste any symbol from UNICODE

No, the Character Map contains only those characters for which there is
a glyph in the font that has been selected in the program's Font
dropdown. Most fonts contain the Polish letters, but no font contains
_all_ Unicode characters.

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Yucca, http://www.cs.tut.fi/~jkorpela/

dorayme

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Jan 29, 2012, 5:13:02 PM1/29/12
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In article <LrfVq.5627$236....@newsfe03.iad>,
"MVP" <ab...@abuse.net> wrote:

> I suggest looking at the charmap tool in Windows where you can select, cut
> and paste any symbol from UNICODE
>
> just make sure your site is UTF-8

Why are you suggesting this? In response to what? Anyway, I might as
well take the opportunity to tell you:

A Polish immigrant went to the DMV to apply for a driver's license.
First, of course, he had to take an eye sight test.

The optician showed him a card with the letters:

C Z W I X N Y S L A C K I.

"Can you read this?" he asked.

"Read it? I know the guy!"

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Hot-Text

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Feb 1, 2012, 2:27:00 AM2/1/12
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"dorayme" <dor...@optusnet.com.au> wrote in message news:dorayme-11B40F...@news.albasani.net...
You know dorayme that MVP is right..
where do you thank I get
Basic Latin/Georgia ;&#322; &#x0142; from...
but from the charmap tool in Windows...

<meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=UTF-8" />
is for running symbol from UNICODE...


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dorayme

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Feb 1, 2012, 2:51:41 AM2/1/12
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In article <jgapg7$258j$1...@adenine.netfront.net>,
"Hot-Text" <hot-...@mynews.ath.cx> wrote:

> "dorayme" <dor...@optusnet.com.au> wrote in message
> news:dorayme-11B40F...@news.albasani.net...
> > In article <LrfVq.5627$236....@newsfe03.iad>,
> > "MVP" <ab...@abuse.net> wrote:
> >
> >> I suggest looking at the charmap tool in Windows where you can select, cut
> >> and paste any symbol from UNICODE
> >>
> >> just make sure your site is UTF-8
> >
> > Why are you suggesting this? In response to what? Anyway, I might as
> > well take the opportunity to tell you:
> >
...
>
> You know dorayme that MVP is right.

I am sure he might be, the question was about what he was responding
to. He quoted nothing. It is best to quote the bit one is responding
to and to leave out all things not strictly needed to understand the
particular response. Notice how I flouted this strict idea in my reply
to him by flagrantly flaunting an irrelevant Polish joke?

--
dorayme

Hot-Text

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Feb 3, 2012, 12:36:34 AM2/3/12
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"dorayme" <dor...@optusnet.com.au> wrote in message news:dorayme-90B329...@news.albasani.net...
It's not a Joke if we Know the Guy name is.......

CZ WIX NY SLACKI
To fight with a New York Slacker..
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