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Please stop your Spam already.
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<usenet_w...@my-deja.com> wrote in message
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> What type of articles are you looking for?
Something either web design or web promotion related. About a page in
length. Sorry, I can't pay for articles, but if I like one that is
submitted I will publish it to our site and offer you a short credit (a
description about yourself with a link to your site). Thanks, and Merry
Christmas.
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> I'm not trying to spam.
>
not allowed by most ISPs including yours, AOL.
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intention was only to see if anyone would like to submit articles to
us.
usenet_w...@my-deja.com
generally not allowed by most ISPs including yours, AOL.>>
bitbucket, I certainly hope this is not some sort of threat. I decided
to run a query on some of your previous posts in this forum, and I came
up with over four pages of similar experiences where you accuse a
spammer of "spamming" the boards. In a relatively small fraction of
these posts you are correct. In the majority of them, however, you do a
great job of disrupting the flow of conversation at alt.html and this
causes many posters here to become angry and go off into an anti-spam
tangent that does nothing productive. Instead, all you will do is
manage to irritate hundreds of active and passive posters here. And, if
you report me to AOL, it would produce temporary down time causing many
problems for me personally and for my business. I am not spamming. I am
not even advertising. I don't care about the few hits that are produced
by posting a message containing a URL. It is funny how there are
blatant spams on this newsgroup, as we speak, such as the
numerous "Happy holidays!" ones that list URLs. If you'd like, I will
stop posting messages to this thread so that it will die and then you
can move on with your life. If you are going to attack spammers,
please attack only those who are spamming. And, I am not spamming. I
run a legitimate web site, and if I want to request articles and
feedback I believe I have the permission to do so. I also believe that
a signature containing my URL is allowed by usenet protocol. If not,
please email me and I will promptly change my signature to reflect
something else.
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> I am not advertising or spamming. Please, stop bothering me. My
> intention was only to see if anyone would like to submit articles to
> us.
>
You are constantly advertising and promoting your web site. It was obvious from
your post saying, "I have a little experiment. I want to see how much traffic I
can bring to my web site in a week." that your intention in posting to the
newsgroups was solely to drive traffic to and promote your site, and not to
participate in Usenet discussions.
If you think I am bothering you, I suggest you use a killfile so you don't see
my posts.
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> <<You're doing a good job, regardless. Advertising in Usenet groups is
> generally not allowed by most ISPs including yours, AOL.>>
>
> bitbucket, I certainly hope this is not some sort of threat. I decided
> to run a query on some of your previous posts in this forum, and I came
> up with over four pages of similar experiences where you accuse a
> spammer of "spamming" the boards. In a relatively small fraction of
> these posts you are correct.
What were then numbers and what was the fraction? I don't keep track so it's
good to know someone did such extensive research to determine my percentage of
success.
> In the majority of them, however, you do a
> great job of disrupting the flow of conversation at alt.html and this
> causes many posters here to become angry and go off into an anti-spam
> tangent that does nothing productive. Instead, all you will do is
> manage to irritate hundreds of active and passive posters here.
Hundreds? Really? I didn't think there were more than about 20 frequent posters
to this group. Most seem to be just single posts from people looking for some
help on their site. Others are just hit and run spammers trying to drive traffic
to and promote their web sites and never offer any useful participation to any
ongoing discussions. Those quickly disappear, as do their spamvertised sites.
> And, if
> you report me to AOL, it would produce temporary down time causing many
> problems for me personally and for my business. I am not spamming. I am
> not even advertising.
Your not? What do you call your post advertising for content for your site?
> I don't care about the few hits that are produced
> by posting a message containing a URL. It is funny how there are
> blatant spams on this newsgroup, as we speak, such as the
> numerous "Happy holidays!" ones that list URLs. If you'd like, I will
> stop posting messages to this thread so that it will die and then you
> can move on with your life.
Have no fear. Your posts do not interfere with the continuation of my life.
>If you are going to attack spammers,
> please attack only those who are spamming. And, I am not spamming. I
> run a legitimate web site, and if I want to request articles and
> feedback I believe I have the permission to do so. I also believe that
> a signature containing my URL is allowed by usenet protocol. If not,
> please email me and I will promptly change my signature to reflect
> something else.
>
I will not email you as I do not read email replies from Usenet and reply within
the group. Just because your URL doesn't appear in the body of a post, doesn't
make it less of an advertisement. If you're in such fear of AOL cutting off your
account if notified, I suggest you review the AOL TOS. I think it's keyword TOS.
usenet_w...@my-deja.com
being spammers. I am not a "hit and run" spammer that you described in
your last post. And, requesting FEEDBACK IN THIS FORUM is not
considered spam. If it is considered spam by the general concensus,
please let me know and I will stop all further posts requesting
feedback about articles or web sites that I have designed and would
like suggestions on. I hope that you do not report me to America
Online's Abuse Dept, however, if you are determined to do so then there
isn't much I can do to stop you. I offered you the option of letting
this thread "die" because I didn't want anything so offensive to a
particular member staying up in alt.html. But, I truly don't understand
how requesting feedback for a legitimate web site is considered
spamming. This troubled me, so I contacted AOL earlier today and had a
rather lengthy discussion with them. In this discussion, I described my
situation in this forum and with you and your accusations of me being a
spammer. If you have your mind set on reporting me to AOL for no reason
and having my account closed, then that is your option. And yet you
don't even respond to the various "real" spams in these boards. I was
tempted to quote what other members have thought of you and your
Gestapo-like measures in these forums, but I didn't. You are disturbing
the forums and, needless to say, causing trouble. I have tried to
provide lots of useful information and answer many questions here. And
I believe have. Yet you continually bother me and accuse me of
something insulting and indirectly threaten to take away my Internet
access (among other things, probably). You have ruined my experience
here. Up until now, I thought this was a great place. Now, it is a
place where I get "reported" by some self-righteous poster who has done
almost nothing productive here. You simply aggravate people and give
them trouble. Your answers to posts that don't involve threatening to
report people for spam are usually one to two sentence answers that
obviously show you didn't spend much time thinking about their
situation or trying to help them. Of course, you won't see my point of
view or the opinion of all the posters whom you have screwed over in
the past (for details, use a Usenet search engine and search
for "bitbucket") and I, for some reason, seem to be degrading your
online experience at alt.html. The last thing I would want to do is
create trouble in this interesting and useful discussion. For this
reason I am officially leaving alt.html for a trial period of seven
days, then I will reassess whether or not it will be safe to
participate and contribute to discussions here without the fear of
being reported. You are truly ridiculous. Have a great life, bitbucket.
You probably feel like you've accomplished something, that your efforts
have made the forum better, and that's the truly sad part.
bp
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You should not have to have any fear of being reported. If AOL TOS'ses you,
contact the ACLU and get an attorney, you will recieve a very large
settlement for them infringing on your civil rights.. You have every right
to speak in public forum and if net-cops and ISP's think they can yank
accounts without reasonable evidence of abuses, they need to think again.
DO NOT TAKE SHIT FROM ANY NET-COP. Net-cops are the lowest form of pathetic
life there is, they are people with no control in their own lives so they
try and tak control of others. If bitbucket keeps harrassing you, report
him to his host, the game can be played both ways.
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> You probably feel like you've accomplished something, that your efforts
> have made the forum better, and that's the truly sad part.
>
I have accomplished something. I've snipped your rambling nonsense as it had no
bearing on the posts I referred to.
Zascar
just trying to improve his website. I replied asking what type of articles
he wants, as I sometimes come accross usefull information that I think
should be shared, and I would like to send them to him. Is his such a
terrible thing??? Wanting to improver your site? Everyone knows that
'Content is King', so a few good articles on his site would bring a lot more
hits than what his sig file gets him. His site is a 'resource' for
webmasters, a site which hopes to have a lot of users that will return, and
make use of the site.
Just my $0.02...
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McWebber
"Zascar" <coli...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> I don't think he is spamming at all! Come on guys, leave him alone!
He is
> just trying to improve his website.
Everyone is trying to improve their web site. If all of the millions of
sites posted asking for contributions to their site, the newsgroups
would be useless. Just because other sites refrain from making such
posts doesn't mean those that do should automatically be given a pass.
> I replied asking what type of articles
> he wants, as I sometimes come accross usefull information that I think
> should be shared, and I would like to send them to him. Is his such a
> terrible thing??? Wanting to improver your site? Everyone knows that
> 'Content is King', so a few good articles on his site would bring a
lot more
> hits than what his sig file gets him. His site is a 'resource' for
> webmasters, a site which hopes to have a lot of users that will
return, and
> make use of the site.
>
There are tons and tons of webmaster resource sites. I don't see any of
them advertising in the newsgroups for people to send articles.
> Just my $0.02...
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> Zascar.
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You might want to check out the threads about hosting recommendations.
I've never seen an ISP post:
<quote>
Maintenance Window Underway
RedRival is currently down for maintenance and will be back up shortly.
Status
Progress: 90% complete.
E.T.A. 12 hours.
</quote>
12 hours???? ISP's that promise 99.9% uptime leave themselves 8 hours
of downtime in that equation. If they're 90% done and still have 12
hours to go, how long has your site been offline? That sucks.
> Remember, when someone annoys you, it takes 42 muscles in your face to
> frown, but it only takes 4 muscles to raise your arm and Bitch Slap
the
> Mother <snip> in the head!
>
Thanks for sharing the obscenity.
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Zascar
when I can get it free with RedRival. Its no big deal if my site is down for
a couple of hours...
frown, but it only takes 4 muscles to raise your arm and Bitch Slap the
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Hello, I am new at this site and I am an AOL user. I had a
screen name that I used only in the ACLU board that I post in and I
had it for at least 2 and a half months. I received a TOSnames1
violation, a warning and a threat to discontinue my service if I didn't
delete the name, as it was offensive. I was also told that it would go
on my AOL record, I don't know what that means. The name I was using
was not offensive to me and there was no curse words in it but
obviously it offended someone at AOL. I would like to know why they
accepted it when I entered it if it was offensive. If they had refused
it I would've just chosen another name. They waited until I used it and
became known by that name and then they sent me a TOS. I went into AOL
help and as usual I got the standard DUH reply and was told to call
my ldrs at community watch. I have never heard of this and I was
wondering if anyone knew if this is a standard practice. The funny part
is someone was already using this name when I punched it in and I
could only get it by adding a 123 number to it. then I got it. Does
this seem right to you. awaiting your reply, any help or answers would
be greatly appreciated. Stargazer600
slavelayer
group?!?!?!?!?!
i have heard of AOL closing your acct for an "offensive" name.... i talked
to a AOL user who's acct was closed becasue his name was something like
daddyloveshisdaughter.... the guy was just a harmless old man(im tech
support for a major isp, which is how i talked to him). regardless to say he
is no longer with AOL, and is getting a much better connection through our
company.
I cant belive millions of people put up with AOL.... just my thoughts tho
mike
<starga...@my-deja.com> wrote in message
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bp
> screen name that I used only in the ACLU board that I post in and I
> had it for at least 2 and a half months. I received a TOSnames1
> violation, a warning and a threat to discontinue my service if I didn't
> delete the name, as it was offensive. I was also told that it would go
> on my AOL record, I don't know what that means. The name I was using
> was not offensive to me and there was no curse words in it but
> obviously it offended someone at AOL. I would like to know why they
> accepted it when I entered it if it was offensive. If they had refused
> it I would've just chosen another name. They waited until I used it and
> became known by that name and then they sent me a TOS. I went into AOL
> help and as usual I got the standard DUH reply and was told to call
> my ldrs at community watch. I have never heard of this and I was
> wondering if anyone knew if this is a standard practice. The funny part
> is someone was already using this name when I punched it in and I
> could only get it by adding a 123 number to it. then I got it. Does
> this seem right to you. awaiting your reply, any help or answers would
> be greatly appreciated. Stargazer600
As with everything in life, you have to follow the chain until your
resources are deplete, this includes demanding to speak with the idiot CSR's
managar and then if he/she cannot resolve the issue ask to speak to their
managar and so on until you get to the executive level. If you problem is
no resolved and if you feel your civil rights have been violated and your
freedom of speech has been supressed, get an attorney and file suit.
Encourage the attorney to find others with similiar experiences and file it
as a class action. It all depends upon how far you wish to take it, as well
as the name you were using. If the name you were using contained hate
messages or profanity, they you have no leg to stand on, if it was something
like "Stargazer600" and they TOSsed you then you have a leg to stand on.
Chances are if you go through the chain, the problem will be resolved as it
indicates you are willing to pursue the situation and the last thing AOL or
any corporation wants is the potential for litigation.
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slavelayer <slave...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> AOL can close your acct on the the premiss of what you post in a news
> group?!?!?!?!?!
> i have heard of AOL closing your acct for an "offensive" name.... i talked
> to a AOL user who's acct was closed becasue his name was something like
> daddyloveshisdaughter.... the guy was just a harmless old man(im tech
> support for a major isp, which is how i talked to him). regardless to say
he
> is no longer with AOL, and is getting a much better connection through our
> company.
> I cant belive millions of people put up with AOL.... just my thoughts tho
OMG, if any ISP tossed me for a name like that, I would raise all sorts of
holy hell. Of course the person was not promoting incest or child abuse was
he? if it was just a name because he loves his daughter, there is no way he
should have tolerated that.
It is such a shame that so many people do not stand up for themsleves
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Adam Bailey
> You should not have to have any fear of being reported. If AOL
> TOS'ses you, contact the ACLU and get an attorney, you will recieve a
> very large settlement for them infringing on your civil rights.. You
> have every right to speak in public forum and if net-cops and ISP's
> think they can yank accounts without reasonable evidence of abuses,
> they need to think again.
Nonsense. AOL is a private service, and every user agrees to abide by
an AUP. You have no rights to free speech when using some else's press.
I suggest you read up on law, as you are clearly clueless on the
subject.
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Adam Bailey
wrote:
> Hello, I am new at this site and I am an AOL user. I had a screen
> name that I used only in the ACLU board that I post in and I had it
> for at least 2 and a half months. I received a TOSnames1 violation, a
> warning and a threat to discontinue my service if I didn't delete the
> name, as it was offensive. I was also told that it would go on my AOL
> record, I don't know what that means. The name I was using was not
> offensive to me and there was no curse words in it but obviously it
> offended someone at AOL. I would like to know why they accepted it
> when I entered it if it was offensive. If they had refused it I
> would've just chosen another name. They waited until I used it and
> became known by that name and then they sent me a TOS.
What was the screen name?
AOL doesn't just look for offensive screen names, someone has to report
it.
On the other hand, it could have been a scam. Do you still have the
message?
> I went into AOL help and as usual I got the standard DUH reply and
> was told to call my ldrs at community watch.
Yes, you can call AOL about it. Or go to Keyword: TOS QUESTIONS.
> I have never heard of this and I was wondering if anyone knew if this
> is a standard practice.
More or less.
Art Sackett
<slave...@hotmail.com> said in article
<W8866.19337$Ps.8...@newsread2.prod.itd.earthlink.net>:
s: AOL can close your acct on the the premiss of what you post in a news
s: group?!?!?!?!?!
AOL's network is theirs to do with as they please. They can cancel an
account for any reason, or no reason at all.
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bp
Art Sackett <asac...@artsackett.com> wrote in message
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> On Mon, 08 Jan 2001 00:49:58 GMT in alt.html slavelayer
> <slave...@hotmail.com> said in article
> <W8866.19337$Ps.8...@newsread2.prod.itd.earthlink.net>:
> s: AOL can close your acct on the the premiss of what you post in a news
> s: group?!?!?!?!?!
>
> AOL's network is theirs to do with as they please. They can cancel an
> account for any reason, or no reason at all.
And a good attorney can pin their balls to the wall for doing it.
Unfortunately there are too many people who listen to advice from people
like and then they feel helpless as if they cannot do anything.
Hmm, wonder how headlines asuch as "Class action lawsuit filed against AOL
for censorship and infringement of civil rights" would look on Wall Street.
From my experiences on Wall Street, that headline alone would shave several
billion dollars of of AOL's market cap. Since for companies like AOL, stock
is currency, at worst you get even at best you recieve a settlement for your
inconveniences.
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<no_spa...@ispelunker.com> wrote:
> Art Sackett <asac...@artsackett.com> wrote in message
> news:3a5c...@209.94.64.50...
> > On Mon, 08 Jan 2001 00:49:58 GMT in alt.html slavelayer
> > <slave...@hotmail.com> said in article
> > <W8866.19337$Ps.8...@newsread2.prod.itd.earthlink.net>:
> > s: AOL can close your acct on the the premiss of what you post in a news
> > s: group?!?!?!?!?!
> >
> > AOL's network is theirs to do with as they please. They can cancel an
> > account for any reason, or no reason at all.
>
> And a good attorney can pin their balls to the wall for doing it.
ROFL. Here's a nickel, go out and buy yourself a clue.
> Unfortunately there are too many people who listen to advice from people
> like and then they feel helpless as if they cannot do anything.
Whatever.
> Hmm, wonder how headlines asuch as "Class action lawsuit filed against AOL
> for censorship and infringement of civil rights" would look on Wall Street.
> From my experiences on Wall Street, that headline alone would shave several
> billion dollars of of AOL's market cap. Since for companies like AOL, stock
> is currency, at worst you get even at best you recieve a settlement for your
> inconveniences.
At any one time, AOL has dozens of lawsuits pending against it, several
of which with class action status. BFD, no one cares.
McWebber
Adam Bailey <ad...@lull.org> wrote:
> Nonsense. AOL is a private service, and every user agrees to abide by
> an AUP. You have no rights to free speech when using some else's
press.
>
> I suggest you read up on law, as you are clearly clueless on the
> subject.
>
Keep in mind, you're arguing with a spammer.
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bp
Adam Bailey <ad...@lull.org> wrote in message
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> In article <PN676.65$DI....@newsread2.prod.itd.earthlink.net>, bp
> <no_spa...@ispelunker.com> wrote:
>
> > Art Sackett <asac...@artsackett.com> wrote in message
> > news:3a5c...@209.94.64.50...
> > > On Mon, 08 Jan 2001 00:49:58 GMT in alt.html slavelayer
> > > <slave...@hotmail.com> said in article
> > > <W8866.19337$Ps.8...@newsread2.prod.itd.earthlink.net>:
> > > s: AOL can close your acct on the the premiss of what you post in a
news
> > > s: group?!?!?!?!?!
> > >
> > > AOL's network is theirs to do with as they please. They can cancel an
> > > account for any reason, or no reason at all.
> >
> > And a good attorney can pin their balls to the wall for doing it.
>
> ROFL. Here's a nickel, go out and buy yourself a clue.
Whatever you wish to think. Let me guess, you are one of those who simply
lack the balls to stand up.
>
> > Unfortunately there are too many people who listen to advice from people
> > like and then they feel helpless as if they cannot do anything.
>
> Whatever.
I see you jave intelligent things to say.
>
> > Hmm, wonder how headlines asuch as "Class action lawsuit filed against
AOL
> > for censorship and infringement of civil rights" would look on Wall
Street.
> > From my experiences on Wall Street, that headline alone would shave
several
> > billion dollars of of AOL's market cap. Since for companies like AOL,
stock
> > is currency, at worst you get even at best you recieve a settlement for
your
> > inconveniences.
>
> At any one time, AOL has dozens of lawsuits pending against it, several
> of which with class action status. BFD, no one cares.
Yup and most are settled out of court. Maybe you should do some research on
the matter.
Adam Bailey
> Adam Bailey <ad...@lull.org> wrote:
> > Nonsense. AOL is a private service, and every user agrees to abide
> > by an AUP. You have no rights to free speech when using some else's
> > press.
> >
> > I suggest you read up on law, as you are clearly clueless on the
> > subject.
>
> Keep in mind, you're arguing with a spammer.
Didn't know that. Thanks, I'll stop now.