html help site
Adam
cgi-perl and since this is the html newsgroup I was wondering if you guys
could take a look at my html section of my site. I only have the first three
pages done but before I get too far down the road I was wondering if you
guys could tell me if I'm on the right track and if it's easy to understand
and most of all helpful for newbies. Aslo what do you think about the text
area boxes that translate whatever you type into a web page to help people
try out new things they learn.
And feed back would be great thanks,
http://www.centennialmedia.com/tutorials/html.html
Jim Hollomon
wrote:
Nice look. Clean and easy to read. Thanks for text that's big enough
to see.
I first tripped when reading the second paragraph. You have a syntax
error that's one of my pet peeves. "If your looking at this page..."
should read "If you're looking at this page..."
Your is the possessive of you. You're is the contraction of "you are."
The two text strings are not interchangeable. I believe that sites
that claim to be well informed enough to teach deserve good copy
editing. If that's not your strong suit, you're welcome to ask for a
more thorough copy review here.
Other than that, it isn't clear to me what the > symbols mean in the
text box at the upper right of the main page.
Jim Hollomon, Web Developer
ET Productions -- http://www.etproductions.com/
We Build Web Sites that Build Net Profits
Statisticians do it with 95% confidence
Simon Brooke
> Hey guys I'm creating a site that gives tutorials on everthing from html to
> cgi-perl and since this is the html newsgroup I was wondering if you guys
> could take a look at my html section of my site. I only have the first three
> pages done but before I get too far down the road I was wondering if you
> guys could tell me if I'm on the right track and if it's easy to understand
> and most of all helpful for newbies.
You're using fixed width tables. Please don't. While your coding
standards are far better than most sites which claim to teach HTML,
this is one fault it would be better not to teach them. Indeed, it
would be better particularly on a teaching site to use DIVs rather
than tables for layout.
I liked your 'try your own HTML' example feature; that's definitely
nice. However, it would be nice if you could parse the result for
coding errors, or provide an option for the user to validate it. You'd
need to use a friendly validator like Nick Kew's.
--
si...@jasmine.org.uk (Simon Brooke) http://www.jasmine.org.uk/~simon/
to err is human, to lisp divine
;; attributed to Kim Philby, oddly enough.
Jeff Thies
> cgi-perl and since this is the html newsgroup I was wondering if you guys
> could take a look at my html section of my site.
from the site:
...
<body>
This is my first web page!
This is sentence number 2.
This is sentence number 3.
</body>
...
Is it a good idea to teach people to put text directly in the body?
I only have the first three
> pages done but before I get too far down the road I was wondering if you
> guys could tell me if I'm on the right track and if it's easy to understand
> and most of all helpful for newbies. Aslo what do you think about the text
> area boxes that translate whatever you type into a web page to help people
> try out new things they learn.
I think that may encourage people that writing bad html is OK because it
will render in the browser they are using.
Why not start with paragraphs and headings first?
Teaching structure I think is a better idea. I've seen far too many
Dreamweaver pages that are html mumbo jumbo.
> And feed back would be great thanks,
> http://www.centennialmedia.com/tutorials/html.html
And, please don't teach font tags!
Jeff
Adam
"Jeff Thies" <cybe...@sprintmail.com> wrote in message
news:3C5AF8E4...@sprintmail.com...
> > Hey guys I'm creating a site that gives tutorials on everthing from html
to
> > cgi-perl and since this is the html newsgroup I was wondering if you
guys
> > could take a look at my html section of my site.
>
> from the site:
> ...
>
> <body>
> This is my first web page!
> This is sentence number 2.
> This is sentence number 3.
> </body>
> ...
>
> Is it a good idea to teach people to put text directly in the body?
paragraph tags or some kind of container.
>
> And, please don't teach font tags!
>
> Jeff
Thanks, so much for taking a look at it. I'm pretty new to news groups but I
can alreaday tell I'm going to love them
Adam
"Simon Brooke" <si...@jasmine.org.uk> wrote in message
news:87hep1t...@gododdin.internal.jasmine.org.uk...
> I liked your 'try your own HTML' example feature; that's definitely
> nice. However, it would be nice if you could parse the result for
> coding errors, or provide an option for the user to validate it. You'd
> need to use a friendly validator like Nick Kew's.
>
and let them know how to fix it. Add the option for validation is great.
Thanks for all the help
Adam
news:3c5bd316...@news.cavtel.net...
> I first tripped when reading the second paragraph. You have a syntax
> error that's one of my pet peeves. "If your looking at this page..."
> should read "If you're looking at this page..."
>
> Your is the possessive of you. You're is the contraction of "you are."
> The two text strings are not interchangeable. I believe that sites
> that claim to be well informed enough to teach deserve good copy
> editing. If that's not your strong suit, you're welcome to ask for a
> more thorough copy review here.
Thanks for the correction I will fix it right away
> Other than that, it isn't clear to me what the > symbols mean in the
> text box at the upper right of the main page.
>
> Jim Hollomon, Web Developer
> ET Productions -- http://www.etproductions.com/
> We Build Web Sites that Build Net Profits
> Statisticians do it with 95% confidence
I guess those where just supposed to point to the stuff on the right but now
that I look at it it probaly is useless.
Thanks for the help,
Adam
Adam
alt.html.writers and alt.html.writes.guild because I thought I would get the
most respones that way on more than one news group but I got you same three
guys on all three newsgroups. How did that happend. The exact same respones
from you 3 guys in three diffrent newsgroups. It it better for me just to
post into this one alt.html.critique
Thanks,
Adam
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"Adam" <adamb...@hotmail.com> wrote in message > And feed back would be
great thanks,
> http://www.centennialmedia.com/tutorials/html.html
Good content. The bright blue kinda hurts my eyes though.
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Adam
"Tina - Affordablehost.com" <ti...@affordablehost.com> wrote in message
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>
> "Adam" <adamb...@hotmail.com> wrote in message > And feed back would be
> great thanks,
> > http://www.centennialmedia.com/tutorials/html.html
>
>
> Good content. The bright blue kinda hurts my eyes though.
>
color that were easy on the eyes. Should I make the blue a little darker? or
what or color would you suggest. Remember I have white links on the menu.
Thanks,
Adam
Tina - Affordablehost.com
I like muted blues. Hence, the color of my site. :-)
Geoff Ball
You forgot the mailto: on all the pages, where you ask if we want to
write a tutorial.
<a
href="webm...@centennialmedia.com">webm...@centennialmedia.com</a>
You also forgot the "n" in your no-break space entity on the JavaScript
page:
New York&bsp;Bound!
And put one too many on the DHTML page:
New York Bound!
You might want to think about using SSI for your linkbar at the top,
Recent News box at the right, etc. That way, you'd only have to update
one file to change everything (because you aren't going to want to have
to change hundreds of files later; I suggest you switch to it now).
Regards,
Geoff
Adam
"Geoff Ball" <ge...@geoffball.net> wrote in message
news:pGK68.47079$M3.67...@news1.telusplanet.net...
> You forgot the mailto: on all the pages, where you ask if we want to
> write a tutorial.
>
> <a
> href="webm...@centennialmedia.com">webm...@centennialmedia.com</a>
>
> You also forgot the "n" in your no-break space entity on the JavaScript
> page:
>
> New York&bsp;Bound!
>
> And put one too many on the DHTML page:
>
> New York Bound!
>
> You might want to think about using SSI for your linkbar at the top,
> Recent News box at the right, etc. That way, you'd only have to update
> one file to change everything (because you aren't going to want to have
> to change hundreds of files later; I suggest you switch to it now).
>
> Regards,
> Geoff
to them in the morning. I like your idea about ssi for the common navagaton
bar at the top etc.. where it's the same on all pages so I'll do that. Hey
with the help of all the people on this news group my site will will
wonderful and correct in no time!
Again thank you guys so much!
Adam
Spooky Guy Next Door
(adamb...@hotmail.com) wrote:
> "Jeff Thies" <cybe...@sprintmail.com> wrote in message
> news:3C5AF8E4...@sprintmail.com...
> > > Hey guys I'm creating a site that gives tutorials on everthing from html
> to
> > > cgi-perl and since this is the html newsgroup I was wondering if you
> guys
> > > could take a look at my html section of my site.
> >
> > from the site:
> > ...
> >
> > <body>
> > This is my first web page!
> > This is sentence number 2.
> > This is sentence number 3.
> > </body>
> > ...
> >
> > Is it a good idea to teach people to put text directly in the body?
> Very good point. I will take about the part that shows text without the
> paragraph tags or some kind of container.
Please remember that <P></P> isn't there to provide double-spacing or
anything like that, but rather to denote paragraphs.
(I'm not saying you don't know that, but I'm not saying you do, either
:o))
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Thomas Lotze
Consider including <link rel=""> navigation. Recent
Mozillas, Lynx, Links etc can use this. The structure
of your tutorial seems to call for that.
I like the clean look of your site.
Cheers, Thomas
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Adam
news:3C5E6764...@gmx.net...
> Consider including <link rel=""> navigation. Recent
> Mozillas, Lynx, Links etc can use this. The structure
> of your tutorial seems to call for that.
see that has a rel="". I'm sorry I don't understand.
> I like the clean look of your site.
Thanks:)
Adam
Thomas Lotze
[ <link rel=""> navigation. ]
>
> What are you refering to? The style sheet information is the only think I
> see that has a rel="". I'm sorry I don't understand.
You can have more of those <link rel=""> tags, right next
to your stylesheet reference. They tell about related
documents, and what that relation is. For instance, you
could have
<link rel="home" href="http://my.domain.dom/">
in all your subpages, so a user agent knows what the
home page of the project is.
Mozilla, for instance, can be configured to display a
toolbar will icons for the home page, the page above
the current one in your hierarchy, and a lot of other
things, so there's a means of navigation in addition to
whatever you do on your pages themselves.
The advantage is that the user doesn't have to learn
your navigation scheme, and in an ideal world where all
browsers support <link> style navigation, a lot of
clutter could be removed from most pages.
Especially interesting for your site would be things
like <link rel="start">, "prev", "next", "contents" etc
which are designed to guide the user through a linear
tour. That's what you do with the "Next" link at the
bottom of your pages.
See, for instance,
http://www.subotnik.net/html/link.html.en
HTH. Cheers,
Adam
> You can have more of those <link rel=""> tags, right next
> to your stylesheet reference. They tell about related
> documents, and what that relation is. For instance, you
> could have
>
> <link rel="home" href="http://my.domain.dom/">
>
> in all your subpages, so a user agent knows what the
> home page of the project is.
>
> Mozilla, for instance, can be configured to display a
> toolbar will icons for the home page, the page above
> the current one in your hierarchy, and a lot of other
> things, so there's a means of navigation in addition to
> whatever you do on your pages themselves.
>
> The advantage is that the user doesn't have to learn
> your navigation scheme, and in an ideal world where all
> browsers support <link> style navigation, a lot of
> clutter could be removed from most pages.
>
>
> Especially interesting for your site would be things
> like <link rel="start">, "prev", "next", "contents" etc
> which are designed to guide the user through a linear
> tour. That's what you do with the "Next" link at the
> bottom of your pages.
>
> See, for instance,
>
> http://www.subotnik.net/html/link.html.en
>