Using Human Pregnancy test kits on horses
Miriam Davison
After a discussion with one of the girls at the farm about the
possibility of her horse being in foal from a rig at her last livery she
then said that she had been told it was possible to use this sort of
method on a horse. As I have never heard of this before just wondered
if anyone else had.
Miriam
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Jane H. Kilberg
<Mir...@xxxxx.demon.co.uk> wrote:
>Has anyone tried or heard of Pregnancy test kits being used on horses.
>After a discussion with one of the girls at the farm about the
>possibility of her horse being in foal from a rig at her last livery she
>then said that she had been told it was possible to use this sort of
>method on a horse.
It's not - different levels of hormonal detection.
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Hillary Jipson
summer. they tended to be accurate and then we used one for "predicting the
foals due date" and that was EXTREMELY accurate..withing 15 hours i
beleive. i don't k now if htis helps..because i cn'at remember any of the
brand names. Maybe if you have access to breeding magazines or race horses
sales flyers..they will tell you.
Hillary
Miriam Davison wrote:
> Has anyone tried or heard of Pregnancy test kits being used on horses.
> After a discussion with one of the girls at the farm about the
> possibility of her horse being in foal from a rig at her last livery she
> then said that she had been told it was possible to use this sort of
> method on a horse. As I have never heard of this before just wondered
> if anyone else had.
>
> Miriam
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testers..they were designed for horses :) have a great day
hillary
Miriam Davison
<boi...@bellsouth.net> writes
>yes there are lots out there.. we used a few at the farm where i worked this
>summer. they tended to be accurate and then we used one for "predicting the
>foals due date" and that was EXTREMELY accurate..withing 15 hours i
>beleive. i don't k now if htis helps..because i cn'at remember any of the
>brand names. Maybe if you have access to breeding magazines or race horses
>sales flyers..they will tell you.
>
>Hillary
I have seen nothing in the magazines and have not even found a breeding
magazine in the shops. What sort of kit did you use? Was it any in
particular? This was just food for thought as I have never heard of it
and when talking to some of the other guys at the stables they had never
heard of this been done before. Thanks anyway for the reply.
Hillary Jipson
did use pregnancy tests a few times. i wish i could remmeber. I'll let you k
now if i think of it or can find it in a magazine.
Hillary
Miriam Davison wrote:
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Miriam Davison
<boi...@bellsouth.net> writes
>let me clear this up a bit..i forgot to include..they WERE NOT human pregnancey
>testers..they were designed for horses :) have a great day
>
>hillary
Thanks Hillary. I did think you meant human pregnancy tests. Let me
know about these horse kits as I have not hard or seen them either.
There has been nothing in the magazines that I read but will pose this
question to the mag. Did you buy these kits over the counter or did the
vet do it?
Hillary Jipson
besure. :)
Hillary
Miriam Davison wrote:
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>The human pregnancy test will not work for horses because one of the
>components that allow this kind assay to function is an antibody. The
>antibody component in the human test attaches to the hormone hCG which
>is produced ONLY in humans. In mares the hormone is eCG and has a
>different structure. In order to see a color change in the test the
>components must build upon other components in the test like a chain.
>If any one component is missing you will not see a color change and
>the test will be negative. In this case since hCH is not present in a
>horse, the chain will be broken and even if the mare is pregnant you
>will get a negative.
>There are however equine pregnancy tests that incorporate eCG and will
>work to test pregnancy in a mare.
>--
>Paul (who makes these type of tests for money to spend on) Pal, and
>Sierra.
Thank you for that very informative info. I will pass it on. Could you
tell me what these pregnancy test are called and is it possible to get
them from a stockist or would they have to come from a vet?
Miriam Davison
<boi...@bellsouth.net> writes
>If i recall..they ordered the pregnancy tests from a catalogue. I really can't
>besure. :)
>
>Hillary
Thanks anyway. There has been someone else answered the post very
informatively and apparently he makes them. I have asked him for the
name and where you can buy them from.
Hillary Jipson
Hillary
Miriam Davison wrote:
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Scrutinizing Inquisitor
>Has anyone tried or heard of Pregnancy test kits being used on horses...
Such mares should be vetted, or transferred to
others who are willing to do so, rather than
left with those too irresponsible to seek
appropriate attention for the livestock.
This is to entertain and not for those who want to be abused/harassed.
This is to encourage at most only lawful/legal and pragmatic actions.
This is to respond to/on a precedent topic not advertise commerce.
This is to expect only appropriate resource use in response.
This is to add that if you don't like that, well, tough shit.
This is Sheila Green in Freedom PA USA (as if it mattered).
Hillary Jipson
know IF the mare is pregnant so that you don't call in the vet needlessly
(and beleive me..i've seen it ALOT since i've worked in breeding barns..but
that was all apart of the business).
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<p...@nospamcts.com> writes
>Hello,
>I am happy the information was helpful. I actually make the human
>tests but the equine tests work the same way. Here is a link to a web
>site I found that offers the equine test. I hope it helps.
>http://www.equinetech.com/equicheck.htm
Thanks for the web site Paul I will check it out.
Scrutinizing Inquisitor
>no one said they wouldnt' vet their mares...
Then the =vet= can determine the pregnancy,
so why would any 'human' test kit be needed?
>... so that you don't call in the vet needlessly...
No animal sets foot on this place unless fully
examined by a vet first. Even then there are
very comfortable quarantine accommodations.
If you can't be bothered to get healthcare for
an animal, you shouldn't get or keep the animal.
>Scrutinizing Inquisitor wrote:
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>> Miriam Davison <Mir...@xxxxx.demon.co.uk> wrote:
>> >Has anyone tried or heard of Pregnancy test kits being used on horses...
>>
>> Such mares should be vetted, or transferred to
>> others who are willing to do so, rather than
>> left with those too irresponsible to seek
>> appropriate attention for the livestock.
This is to entertain and not for those who want to be abused/harassed.
This is to encourage at most only lawful/legal and pragmatic actions.
This is to respond to/on a precedent topic not advertise commerce.
This is to expect only appropriate resource use in response.
This is to add that if you don't like that, well, tough shit.
This is Sheila Green in Freedom (as if it mattered).
Hillary Jipson
or kept anyplace..but if you have had a vet check prior to breeding... and you
are not possitive she took... then have the test..see if she's pregnant and then
proceed to give her the pre-natal care..why waste all that money on pre-natal
crap when she isnt' even pregnant? keep on thinking what you like..but i think
this is a very logical thought.. hope you have a great night!
Hillary
Scrutinizing Inquisitor wrote:
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> and then proceed to give her the pre-natal care..
> why waste all that money on pre-natal
> crap when she isnt' even pregnant?
Please list all the "pre-natal crap" a mare needs in the first two
trimesters.
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> lol i never said they don't get vet care..before during and after being borded
> or kept anyplace..but if you have had a vet check prior to breeding... and you
> are not possitive she took... then have the test..see if she's pregnant and then
> proceed to give her the pre-natal care..why waste all that money on pre-natal
> crap when she isnt' even pregnant? keep on thinking what you like..but i think
> this is a very logical thought.. hope you have a great night!
Given that the tests are specific for human chorionic gonadotropin (hCG), I
wouldn't expect the results to be accurate for mares. Save your ten bucks, and
just call the vet.
Elaine
Laura Newberry
What about guinea pigs? Do you think I could test my guinea pig so I know
whether her boyfriend can go back and live with his real parents yet?
sorry its offtopic, I just thought while we were on the subject someone
might know something.
Ian Shurville
humans to rodents Laura?
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human ones measure, and didnt know whether the same chemical change happened
with all mammals, so thought maybe there might be some kind of parallel.
probably not, having thought some more about it.
thanks anyway.
Laura
JetCity
> Would a human test actually work on a pony
Actually about a week or more ago on this thread they did specify that the
tests were made for horses, not the home human tests.
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Hillary Jipson
what sheila was screaming about..lol .. she thinks that a vet should be called out
everytime a mare needs to be check..ect.. my point was just being that.. instead of
having to call out the vet to ultrasound her..or palpate her..ect..you can give her
the test..and know if she is or isn't..and go from there.. :) have a wonderful
night..
Hillary
Elaine Lindelef wrote:
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> Would a human test actually work on a pony?
> What about guinea pigs? Do you think I could test my guinea pig so I know
> whether her boyfriend can go back and live with his real parents yet?
> sorry its offtopic, I just thought while we were on the subject someone
> might know something.
Laura if your guinea pig is anything like the ones I had growing up... she's
likely pregnant if she's been with the male for more than a week. Great
pets, wait til you see the babies - they're born with fur, eyes open, and
are running around in about five minutes. Much nicer than little hairless
hamster babies.
ObHorse: Foals are much cuter than little hairless hamster babies too.
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Laura Newberry
got into the garden the other day and seeing the piggies had veggies, pulled
the cage door open with her teeth (off the hinges, no less) and took the
veggies from the cage. you have never heard such shreiking!! you know what
noise piggies make anyway, and it scared the living daylights out of the
poor pony!!!!
Esther Young
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> Laura if your guinea pig is anything like the ones I had growing up...
she's
> likely pregnant if she's been with the male for more than a week. Great
> pets, wait til you see the babies - they're born with fur, eyes open, and
> are running around in about five minutes. Much nicer than little hairless
> hamster babies.
We put one of mine in with 'Cuthbert' the Guin for several weeks and nothing
happened - I don't think he had much of a clue. However, when we introduced
her to 'the Fonz' (a rather hairy silver rex), believe me she became
pregnant in about 30 seconds - talk about lust at first sight. If you've
seen them 'doing the deed', I think you can be fairly sure she's up the
spout. Its just like with ObHorses - you have to watch to see if she comes
back on heat.
Jennifers right about the babies - mine were leaping about almost as soon as
they were born, and cleaning themselves, and scratching behind their little
ears (and they were only an couple of inches long). I wasted loads of time
just watching them. I can see how people end up with loads of them - they're
very addictive.
Esther
Scrutinizing Inquisitor
>no.. lol sorry.. i posted before that there are horsie pregnancy tests..and that was
>what sheila was screaming about..lol ...
So you laugh as you lie, too.
I was referring to human test kits, as does
the subject header, if you'd bother to read.
>. she thinks that a vet should be called out
>everytime a mare needs to be check...
If you can't vet a horse you suspect may be
pregnant, sell it to someone who can. Soon.
Mary Healey
> ...If you've
> seen them 'doing the deed', I think you can be fairly sure she's up the
> spout.
Not necessarily. I had a male and two females together for almost two
years - nothing. Then again, the sows were a bit elderly. I'm also
pretty hopeless in the reproduction department (can't even breed
guppies), so my expectations were pretty low.
M.
Laura Newberry
girl pigs over one year old unless they had already had a litter as their
hip bones fuse at around a year and they find it very hard to give birth and
often die. perhaps mother nature was just telling your girls not to do it!!!
my girl had a litter last summer when we bought her a "girl" friend to keep
her company. (turned out to be a fella!!) we didnt know they were bonking so
we didnt count how long it was before she gave birth. still, fingers crossed
and all that.
anyway. must go, this months Your Horse has just arrived so i shall bury my
nose in that for a while. enjoy your evening!
Laura xx
Scrutinizing Inquisitor
>lol i never said they don't get vet care...
How else would one want a pregnancy test kit?
>...but if you have had a vet check prior to breeding... and you
>are not possitive she took... then have the test...
No, have her vetted. If you can't afford to
have broodmares vetted, you shouldn't keep
them. I believe someone else has already
mentioned the issue of twinning.
>Scrutinizing Inquisitor wrote:
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>> Hillary Jipson <boi...@bellsouth.net> wrote:
>>
>> >no one said they wouldnt' vet their mares...
>>
>> Then the =vet= can determine the pregnancy,
>> so why would any 'human' test kit be needed?
>>
>> >... so that you don't call in the vet needlessly...
>>
>> No animal sets foot on this place unless fully
>> examined by a vet first. Even then there are
>> very comfortable quarantine accommodations.
>>
>> If you can't be bothered to get healthcare for
>> an animal, you shouldn't get or keep the animal.
>>
>> >Scrutinizing Inquisitor wrote:
>> >
>> >> Miriam Davison <Mir...@xxxxx.demon.co.uk> wrote:
>> >> >Has anyone tried or heard of Pregnancy test kits being used on horses...
>> >>
>> >> Such mares should be vetted, or transferred to
>> >> others who are willing to do so, rather than
>> >> left with those too irresponsible to seek
>> >> appropriate attention for the livestock.
As Always, Just Asking,
Your Loyal Scrutinizer,
Sheila Green in Freedom
Hillary Jipson
ultrasounded or palpated... in either case.. you will at least know that the mare
is pregnant and be able to make schedualed visits from the vet for doing the
required examinations throughout the rest of the pregnancy.
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>... schedualed visits from the vet ...
You don't figure there should be one up front?
Why not?
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Hillary Jipson
we argueing about this stupid idotic subject?? ohh i forgot..because you always have
to find something to peck about..
Muleskinner
>hahah i ... stupid idotic ...
But enough about you, such folks shouldn't try to
keep horses at all, particularly when they can't
manage to get them vetted appropriately.
Steve & Kim
Guinea Pigs gestation is 2 months. And they only come into heat every 3
weeks.
But everyone is right, the babies are fully furred, eyes open and
everything.
I used to have alot of Guinea Pigs, but now I only have rats.
Kim
JetCity
> but you wont know about twinning until the foal (s) are big enought o be
> ultrasounded
Which is in time to safely dispose of one of them.
> or palpated
Too late, too many risks
> you will at least know that the mare
> is pregnant and be able to make schedualed visits from the vet
However do the Mustang mares survive, what with no vets out on the range
watching over them????
> for doing the
> required examinations throughout the rest of the pregnancy.
Which would be??????
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terrible because i would quote "not vet my mare" which was not my point at
all.she would be vetted, and as for the rest of the required vetting.. what ever
your vet and yourself feels nessasary.
Hillary
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> Has anyone tried or heard of Pregnancy test kits being used on horses.
> possibility of her horse being in foal from a rig at her last livery she
> then said that she had been told it was possible to use this sort of
> method on a horse. As I have never heard of this before just wondered
> if anyone else had.
> Miriam
>
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> Has anyone tried or heard of Pregnancy test kits being used on horses.
> After a discussion with one of the girls at the farm about the
> possibility of her horse being in foal from a rig at her last livery she
> then said that she had been told it was possible to use this sort of
> method on a horse. As I have never heard of this before just wondered
> if anyone else had.
>
> Miriam
>
> Miriam Davison
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