Faces Of Death-9-11?
Vic Martinez
jumpers from the WTC hitting the pavement, as shown on the Spanish
Network 'Telemundo'. They were around 20 bucks. Do you think this
footage would be included anyway in a future 'Faces of Death' type tape
compilation, and would you 'FOD' freaks out there actually watch this
stuff, or do you draw the line only on 'movies'?
gareth young
"Vic Martinez" <t1...@webtv.net> wrote in message
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faces of death et al never do it for me -i want to be entertained,not yucked
out.
--
Gareth
quote of the day
'That's Rosemary! She's a friend of mine!'
Bombsquad
Vic Martinez wrote:
I dunno. Jump off a building and let me watch, then I'll will.
Bombsquad.
Richard Nathans
the same people that come crawling out of their holes when a serious traffic
accident has happened, hoping to see some crushed bodies or something. In my
opinion, that has nothing to do with horror movies. People who aren't into
horror movies often don't see the difference...
Richard
"Vic Martinez" <t1...@webtv.net> schreef in bericht
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Rob
"Vic Martinez" <t1...@webtv.net> wrote in message
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Some times however it is important to know what really when on in a
situation. I might watch the movie for curiosity and better understanding.
I don't think that I would be eating popcorn and enjoying another's
misfortune
Horror for me is entertainment - this stuff is not entertainment it is more
hard core documentary with a chance that it may slip in to the worst part of
human nature - Sadism. - Joy at the misery of others.
But how is it any different from the film footage of "Turkey shoot" a the
end of the first Gulf War. These people were running away. Pilots patting
each of other on the back and saying it was like shooting fish in a barrel.
Wormwood
I'm proud to say that while I consider myself a fan of serious horror
cinema (and perhaps not so serious, given my fondness for classic
exploitation films), I have *never* seen a "Faces Of Death"
installment. Heard they're pure schlock produced by cynical hacks. I
do occasionally visit the death & gore sites just to give myself a
morbid kick in the ass & keep things in perspective about my own
mortality. However, even this is something I haven't done in quite a
while, possibly because one of the last nightmare images I saw (an AVI
of a live Russian solider having his head slowly cut off with a knife
by Chechen rebels, shot in close up with one of those old black &
white half-inch tape video cameras by the bloodthirsty rebels
themselves) has become imbued in my brain, like some kind of awful
grey-matter feeding worm, and I can't get the fuckin' thing out! At
least it might have cured me of this terrible curiosity I have... or
hopefully *had*... PRAISE ALLAH!
-worm
"You're not cured yet, boy!" -- Dr. Brodsky, A CLOCKWORK ORANGE
Remove YOURPANTIES before emailing me
Bauknin
In article <9Fs1a.44033$jM5.1...@newsfeeds.bigpond.com>, "Rob"
<R...@nooSssppaam.com> wrote:
<< But how is it any different from the film footage of "Turkey shoot" a the
end of the first Gulf War. These people were running away. Pilots patting
each of other on the back and saying it was like shooting fish in a barrel. >>
It's different because the pilots got paid to do it, making them hired killers.
-Doug
WideScreenPig
<wormwood19...@lycos.com> writ thusly:
I'm the same way with the Bud Dwyer suicide footage--saw it once,
never want to see it, or anything like it, ever again.
___________________________________
WideScreenPig
"Stop; get the hell away! It's not a dog - it's just an imitation of a dog;
it's a kind of thing. It imitates. Get the hell away from the dog, you
fucking idiots!"
Dug Weir
That sort of shit is bad for your soap.
Dug
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Justin Kerswell
wrote:
>I'm the same way with the Bud Dwyer suicide footage--saw it once,
>never want to see it, or anything like it, ever again.
>
... same here. I saw that footage of a girl being hit by a train, and
I can safely say my appetite for real life horror has been well and
truly quenched. It's make believe all the way for me now.
Justin Kerswell
HYSTERIA LIVES! The Return of Slasher Trash with Panache!
http://www.hysteria-lives.co.uk [Now live!!!]
"He looked like a big red, kinda crimson cat!"
- An eye witness isn't much help in the search for the killer in Umberto
Lenzi's EYEBALL (1975)
Paul Mesken
(Justin Kerswell) wrote:
>On Sun, 09 Feb 2003 17:39:07 GMT, WideScreenPig <ws...@rogers.com>
>wrote:
>
>>I'm the same way with the Bud Dwyer suicide footage--saw it once,
>>never want to see it, or anything like it, ever again.
>>
> ... same here. I saw that footage of a girl being hit by a train, and
>I can safely say my appetite for real life horror has been well and
>truly quenched. It's make believe all the way for me now.
>
I take it you guys never check out www.rotten.com ?
Brandi Weed
usu...@euronet.nl says...
> I take it you guys never check out www.rotten.com ?
Once. I made the mistake of thinking I might be able to find a good
photographic example of death pallor there. Never again.
Brandi
Paul Mesken
Here you go : http://poetry.rotten.com/blonde/0005/
If you're a painter then you'll know this one screams cobalt violet at
you :-)
Bombsquad
Bauknin wrote:
It was WAR, fuckers. And we know successfully Iraq disarmed themselves, so we
helped them along. I thought it was a savage and brilliant tactical move and it put
the very fear of God in everyone who was there. These fuckers surrendered to CNN,
they knew better then to move their tanks and equipment before a cease fire was
called. Point is, war is war and all bets are off. Fuck Vietnam, if we're gonna do
it, do it right and bomb the shit out of Hanoi.
Any son of a bitch who says war is civil can fuck right off.
Bombsquad
Bombsquad
Justin Kerswell wrote:
> On Sun, 09 Feb 2003 17:39:07 GMT, WideScreenPig <ws...@rogers.com>
> wrote:
>
> >I'm the same way with the Bud Dwyer suicide footage--saw it once,
> >never want to see it, or anything like it, ever again.
> >
> ... same here. I saw that footage of a girl being hit by a train, and
> I can safely say my appetite for real life horror has been well and
> truly quenched. It's make believe all the way for me now.
>
> Justin Kerswell
>
I agree. I like the safety net of know that the actor will get back up, wipe
ofo the Tom Savini blood and drink a beer with the stunt guys.
Bombsquad
bod
"Paul Mesken" <usu...@euronet.nl> wrote in message
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some fucking idiot i work with thought i might like that site......talk
about getting the wrong end of the stick!!
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>
Paul Mesken
>
>"Paul Mesken" <usu...@euronet.nl> wrote in message
>news:pg7d4vo8c0rd5a3ug...@4ax.com...
>> On Sun, 09 Feb 2003 18:08:01 GMT, jus...@south-over.demon.co.uk
>> (Justin Kerswell) wrote:
>>
>> >On Sun, 09 Feb 2003 17:39:07 GMT, WideScreenPig <ws...@rogers.com>
>> >wrote:
>> >
>> >>I'm the same way with the Bud Dwyer suicide footage--saw it once,
>> >>never want to see it, or anything like it, ever again.
>> >>
>> > ... same here. I saw that footage of a girl being hit by a train, and
>> >I can safely say my appetite for real life horror has been well and
>> >truly quenched. It's make believe all the way for me now.
>> >
>>
>> I take it you guys never check out www.rotten.com ?
>
>some fucking idiot i work with thought i might like that site......talk
>about getting the wrong end of the stick!!
>
Well, I think it's a great site. It's of practical value as well for
make up artists and it has a great sense of dark humour.
bod
>
> Well, I think it's a great site. It's of practical value as well for
> make up artists and it has a great sense of dark humour.
>
what fucking practical value does this shit have unless your a fucking
idiot?
Wormwood
wrote:
>Well, I think it's a great site. It's of practical value as well for
>make up artists and it has a great sense of dark humour.
Always got a kick out of their description for deadly shark attack
victims as "humans -- the *real* Chicken of the Sea!"
-worm
bod
"Wormwood" <wormwood19...@lycos.com> wrote in message
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more often than not, a shark will attack out of accident....dont give sharks
bad press!
Paul Mesken
Yes, you're right about that. The politics of war are completely
different from that of peace time. War is all about ruthless
opportunism and thus winning by all means. There're no points for
style in war.
Justin Kerswell
wrote:
>I take it you guys never check out www.rotten.com ?
>
... I have done in the past, when I'm feeling ghoulish. Always
feeled slightly soiled afterwards, though!
Paul Mesken
>
>"Paul Mesken" <usu...@euronet.nl> wrote in message
>news:ecpd4vk6n7st359q4...@4ax.com...
>>
>> Well, I think it's a great site. It's of practical value as well for
>> make up artists and it has a great sense of dark humour.
>>
>fake or not...its the intention....
>what fucking practical value does this shit have unless your a fucking
>idiot?
>
Tsss, I thought you were hardcore.
Anyway, all stuff on www.rotten.com is real, it's send in by coroners
and stuff. It's not much sicker than watching those documentaries with
surgery in it (I love those, it's great to see how the body looks from
the inside).
Ah, perhaps it is sick but you can't get better gore than that (check
out the new helicopter accident).
bod
> Tsss, I thought you were hardcore.
>
nah...i just trash real idiots...fuckface!
Coyote
>On Sun, 09 Feb 2003 18:08:01 GMT, jus...@south-over.demon.co.uk
>(Justin Kerswell) wrote:
>
>>On Sun, 09 Feb 2003 17:39:07 GMT, WideScreenPig <ws...@rogers.com>
>>wrote:
>>
>>>I'm the same way with the Bud Dwyer suicide footage--saw it once,
>>>never want to see it, or anything like it, ever again.
>>>
>> ... same here. I saw that footage of a girl being hit by a train, and
>>I can safely say my appetite for real life horror has been well and
>>truly quenched. It's make believe all the way for me now.
>>
>
>I take it you guys never check out www.rotten.com ?
I went through all the images awhile back, when I was bored, and came
across a picture that I couldn't get out of my mind for days: Some
poor guy had been thrown from his motorcycle, and I think hit a metal
pole; he appeared to be sitting up on a hospital gurney with his face
completely destroyed. I won't get any more graphic than that, but it
was an image I wish I'd never, ever seen. Horrendous.
bod
"Coyote" <lamb...@dinner.com> wrote in message
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> I went through all the images awhile back, when I was bored, and came
> across a picture that I couldn't get out of my mind for days: Some
> poor guy had been thrown from his motorcycle, and I think hit a metal
> pole; he appeared to be sitting up on a hospital gurney with his face
> completely destroyed. I won't get any more graphic than that, but it
> was an image I wish I'd never, ever seen. Horrendous.
to undersatand horror is to understand pity....if you cant figure the
difference between the two then your just another sicko!
Paul Mesken
>
>"Paul Mesken" <usu...@euronet.nl> wrote in message
>news:33rd4vg2v7nur77un...@4ax.com...
>
>> Tsss, I thought you were hardcore.
>>
>nah...i just trash real idiots...fuckface!
>
Ah, come on! The site is practically mainstream. I can't believe it,
behind that farce of insults you're just some kind of family man
(YUKYUKYUK).
My blood is boiling with seeing this kind of weakness from a grown
man. Now it's time to insult you back! Ready? Here goes :
Wussie
[ I have to apologize to the group, I normally don't use such foul
language but the man drove me crazy ]
Wormwood
>
>"Wormwood" <wormwood19...@lycos.com> wrote in message
>news:o9qd4vkq7rorqlhgh...@4ax.com...
>> On Mon, 10 Feb 2003 00:40:27 +0100, Paul Mesken <usu...@euronet.nl>
>> wrote:
>>
>> >Well, I think it's a great site. It's of practical value as well for
>> >make up artists and it has a great sense of dark humour.
>>
>> Always got a kick out of their description for deadly shark attack
>> victims as "humans -- the *real* Chicken of the Sea!"
>>
>> -worm
>>
>> Remove YOURPANTIES before emailing me
>
>more often than not, a shark will attack out of accident....dont give sharks
>bad press!
Um, yeah, okay, Jacques Costeau. If you could be transported back in
time to New Jersey around the turn of the century where a bull shark
got lost in a fresh water tributary, took a bite of people flesh,
liked it, took another bite from a different person, liked it even
more, then took another bite from a third, then a fourth, then a
fifth, leaving dead body after dead body, I'm sure you wouldn't be
jumping in the water to hug the big fishy & pleading, "People, he just
needs to be loved! He's so misunderstood! Get back, all of you!
Back I say!" lol.
Paul Mesken
LOL!
The Gore-met
>Wormwood writ thusly:
>>I'm proud to say that while I consider myself a fan of serious horror
>>cinema (and perhaps not so serious, given my fondness for classic
>>exploitation films), I have *never* seen a "Faces Of Death"
>>installment. Heard they're pure schlock produced by cynical hacks.
I used to think that watching reality death tapes made me hardcore.
They were also difficult to get a hold of here. So I had to have some.
I sat through a few. The original "Faces of Death" series contains
much fakery. "Traces of Death" is the real deal. Threat Theatre's
"Faces of Gore" series is worse than "Traces", and the source material
is better quality.
I have the "Faces of Death" box set. It was a freebie. I can't work up
enough will to watch one of them. I bought the HK VCD of "Traces of
Death IV", a fucking UGLY film that made me realise I just can't
handle the tragedy anymore.
>I'm the same way with the Bud Dwyer suicide footage--saw it once,
>never want to see it, or anything like it, ever again.
Geez, I'm sorry alright, for like, the 500th time. I didn't do it
purpose, although now I wish I had! Hah!
It was an accident, for fuck's sake, get over it already, will ya?
- - -
"If you beat them they won't dance for you".
The Gore-met
>It was WAR, fuckers. And we know successfully Iraq disarmed themselves, so we
>helped them along. I thought it was a savage and brilliant tactical move and it put
>the very fear of God in everyone who was there. These fuckers surrendered to CNN,
>they knew better then to move their tanks and equipment before a cease fire was
>called. Point is, war is war and all bets are off. Fuck Vietnam, if we're gonna do
>it, do it right and bomb the shit out of Hanoi.
>
>Any son of a bitch who says war is civil can fuck right off.
Dubya gotta kick them sumbitches' ass. No leader should defy the UN
like this and live to tell about it. Down with tyrants.
Cuntee Cunterson
coroner's that would send in the fucking pictures of someone's dead baby to a
cheap disgusting and merciless website pisses me the fuck off.Their is line
between entertainment and something just wrong.Entertainment is watching Zombie
or Demons.Something Wrong is enjoying pictures of dead babies and people
commiting suicide.Curiosity is what brought me to that udder filth bag of a
website and disgust is what will never bring me back....and anyone who enjoys
that website should seriously seek help...
BloodRedRazorBlade
<snip>
>I saw that footage of a girl being hit by a train, and
>I can safely say my appetite for real life horror has been well and
>truly quenched. It's make believe all the way for me now.
That happened in Chicago around '92 or '93. That train was doing
one last historical run before they retired it, that's why there
was an amateur there with a camera. It was some kind of famous model.
She and the guy next to her were intentionally trying to cross over
as the train was coming -- you can hear the horn blaring.
BloodRedRazorBlade
Get off the moral high horse. It's a dumb site, 'nuff said.
I go to the Onion if I want irreverent humour.
Someone said the stuff they (Rotten) show is real. I'm not too sure if
that holds for everything on there. The picture of the Asian
guy eating fetuses with some caption saying this was the latest
gourmet craze 'round those parts was completely made up. The
guy was an artist who somehow procured aborted fetuses for an
art exhibit. Tasteless? Yeah.
Nothing more.
loucyphre
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>
> "Paul Mesken" <usu...@euronet.nl> wrote in message
> news:pg7d4vo8c0rd5a3ug...@4ax.com...
>> On Sun, 09 Feb 2003 18:08:01 GMT, jus...@south-over.demon.co.uk
>> (Justin Kerswell) wrote:
>>
>> >On Sun, 09 Feb 2003 17:39:07 GMT, WideScreenPig <ws...@rogers.com>
>> >wrote:
>> >
>> >>I'm the same way with the Bud Dwyer suicide footage--saw it once,
>> >>never want to see it, or anything like it, ever again.
>> >>
>> > ... same here. I saw that footage of a girl being hit by a train, and
>> >I can safely say my appetite for real life horror has been well and
>> >truly quenched. It's make believe all the way for me now.
>> >
>>
>> I take it you guys never check out www.rotten.com ?
>
> some fucking idiot i work with thought i might like that site......talk
> about getting the wrong end of the stick!!
>
Yes, but if alt.horror has taught me anything, it's never to trust the
sanity or intelligence of any of bod's co-workers.
------
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loucyphre
2338.public.lawson.webtv.net:
> Some sicko on E-Bay recently had copies of tapes for sale showing
> jumpers from the WTC hitting the pavement, as shown on the Spanish
> Network 'Telemundo'. They were around 20 bucks. Do you think this
> footage would be included anyway in a future 'Faces of Death' type tape
> compilation, and would you 'FOD' freaks out there actually watch this
> stuff, or do you draw the line only on 'movies'?
>
I used to work as an Associate Producer for a news gathering agency. Hence,
I would watch satelite feeds of raw news footage, some of it live. I've
seen more footage of people getting shot, blown up, killed in an accident,
or offing themselves than anyone should have to see. And it's not
entertainment. Not surprisingly, that's when I began finding it hard to
sleep at night.
Horror is honest in that it's the genre that brings out emotions and
desires in the greatest possible light, while typically keeping some strand
of fantasy intact. But it's that fantasy that helps us deal.
------
loucyphre - bringing back the sickened memories
bod
no shit you fucking moron!!
Dr Walpurgis
Yes. It is highly amusing to hear the Americans banging on about Iraq
"defying the will of the international community". Er, like they did
over Kyoto, do they mean? Or like they did over the Interational Court
of Human Rights, do they mean? Etc, etc, etc . . .
--
"Right! Bring in the perverts!" - Ispettore Morosini (Enrico Salerno)
L'UCCELLO DALLE PIUME DI CRISTALLO
Dr Walpurgis
> Anyway, all stuff on www.rotten.com is real, it's send in by coroners
> and stuff. It's not much sicker than watching those documentaries with
> surgery in it (I love those, it's great to see how the body looks from
> the inside).
>
> Ah, perhaps it is sick but you can't get better gore than that (check
> out the new helicopter accident).
You Dutch have a funny idea about what constitutes entertainment.
WideScreenPig
writ thusly:
>I used to think that watching reality death tapes made me hardcore.
i told u i was hardcore
___________________________________
WideScreenPig
"Stop; get the hell away! It's not a dog - it's just an imitation of a dog;
it's a kind of thing. It imitates. Get the hell away from the dog, you
fucking idiots!"
Paul Mesken
Yeah, it's obviously a prank : "At least we don't show people eating
babies. oh wait." :-)
Jason Gaylor
say this. I was sickened and totally depressed by the whole thing. After
I got off that site after only being on there a minute or so. I felt
sick and had this terrible feeling in the pit of my stomach. I just
couldn't hack it and it's the exact same way with the "Faces of Death"
documentary's. I have no probem watching horror and even blatant
exploitation flicks because I know obviously it's fake but I can't sit
and watch real death caught on camera. To me, that has absolutely no
entertaiment value. When you watch this crap. You won't be able to sleep
that very night and those dreadful images will be transfixed in your
brain for a long time to come. I still remember the first time I watched
the original "Faces of Death". A friend of mine rented it and brought it
and a few other horror flicks over because he was sleeping over. He
said, Man, you've gotta see this sick shit. It's real death caught on
camera and it's been banned in like 20 countries or something like that.
At first I told him flat out. Man, I have absolutely no aspirations to
see any of that crap but over time he talked me into it. So, we put the
tape into the vcr and watched. I saw the "Bud Dwyer" suicide which still
terribly disturbs me to this day and a few other things on the tape. I
think I watched for thirty minutes but then I started feeling sick and I
had to cut the tape off. That very night I didn't get a wink of sleep
and I still haven't forgotten some of those images. I believe in free
speech and all but if there's one thing I can say should be banned and
never seen by anyone again. It's real death documentary's like this. You
really do have to be sick to want to look at this shit and be
entertained by it.
Paul Mesken
<drwal...@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:
>Paul Mesken wrote:
>
>> Anyway, all stuff on www.rotten.com is real, it's send in by coroners
>> and stuff. It's not much sicker than watching those documentaries with
>> surgery in it (I love those, it's great to see how the body looks from
>> the inside).
>>
>> Ah, perhaps it is sick but you can't get better gore than that (check
>> out the new helicopter accident).
>
>You Dutch have a funny idea about what constitutes entertainment.
It's an acquired taste ;-)
Dai
Agree. I saw this pic and it haunted me for days. Rotten labelled it as
"nothing gets between me and my Harley" or some shit like that. in fact, the
Snopes (www.snopes.com) message board site, in the horrors section had a
multi page debate whether the image was faked or not. Most people seemed to
agree that the man without a face was a masterpiece of makeup.
eerie pimp
"bod" <bod...@ntlworld.com> wrote in message
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>
> "Coyote" <lamb...@dinner.com> wrote in message
> news:hlsd4vsobq54ktklu...@4ax.com...
>
> > I went through all the images awhile back, when I was bored, and came
> > across a picture that I couldn't get out of my mind for days: Some
> > poor guy had been thrown from his motorcycle, and I think hit a metal
> > pole; he appeared to be sitting up on a hospital gurney with his face
> > completely destroyed. I won't get any more graphic than that, but it
> > was an image I wish I'd never, ever seen. Horrendous.
>
> to undersatand horror is to understand pity....if you cant figure the
> difference between the two then your just another sicko!
>
(Not that I really care to look at that shit.)
eerie pimp
"Dr Walpurgis" <drwal...@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote in message
news:U9Gcnd2aV_N...@giganews.com...
> The Gore-met wrote:
>
> >>It was WAR, fuckers. And we know successfully Iraq disarmed themselves,
so we
> >>helped them along. I thought it was a savage and brilliant tactical move
and it put
> >>the very fear of God in everyone who was there. These fuckers
surrendered to CNN,
> >>they knew better then to move their tanks and equipment before a cease
fire was
> >>called. Point is, war is war and all bets are off. Fuck Vietnam, if
we're gonna do
> >>it, do it right and bomb the shit out of Hanoi.
> >>
> >>Any son of a bitch who says war is civil can fuck right off.
> >
> > Dubya gotta kick them sumbitches' ass. No leader should defy the UN
> > like this and live to tell about it. Down with tyrants.
>
> Yes. It is highly amusing to hear the Americans banging on about Iraq
> "defying the will of the international community". Er, like they did
> over Kyoto, do they mean? Or like they did over the Interational Court
> of Human Rights, do they mean? Etc, etc, etc . . .
>
the fuck out!"
*sniff*
true heroism.
Paul Mesken
wrote:
>Curiosity is what brought me to that udder filth bag of a
>website and disgust is what will never bring me back....and anyone who enjoys
>that website should seriously seek help...
>
I did, but electro shock therapy only gives me a hard on ("INCREASE
THE VOLTAGE!", guess the movie ;-)
Paul Mesken
Now THAT should be on one of those classroom scare movies "Look here
kids, this is what happens when you play chicken with a train and
lose"" ;-)
Henrik Larsen
news:U9Gcnd2aV_N...@giganews.com...
> The Gore-met wrote:
>
> >>It was WAR, fuckers. And we know successfully Iraq disarmed
themselves, so we
> >>helped them along. I thought it was a savage and brilliant tactical
move and it put
> >>the very fear of God in everyone who was there. These fuckers
surrendered to CNN,
> >>they knew better then to move their tanks and equipment before a
cease fire was
> >>called. Point is, war is war and all bets are off. Fuck Vietnam, if
we're gonna do
> >>it, do it right and bomb the shit out of Hanoi.
> >>
> >>Any son of a bitch who says war is civil can fuck right off.
> >
> > Dubya gotta kick them sumbitches' ass. No leader should defy the UN
> > like this and live to tell about it. Down with tyrants.
>
> Yes. It is highly amusing to hear the Americans banging on about Iraq
> "defying the will of the international community". Er, like they did
> over Kyoto, do they mean? Or like they did over the Interational
Court
> of Human Rights, do they mean? Etc, etc, etc . . .
Even more amusing these days to hear Rumsfelt raging against his
unfaitful vassals. Well, at least he still got Tony Blair...
-Henrik
WideScreenPig
thusly:
>to undersatand horror is to understand pity....if you cant figure the
>difference between the two then your just another sicko!
Y'know something, bod? You never stop surprising me. Very well said.
Paul Mesken
<drwal...@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:
>The Gore-met wrote:
>
>>>It was WAR, fuckers. And we know successfully Iraq disarmed themselves, so we
>>>helped them along. I thought it was a savage and brilliant tactical move and it put
>>>the very fear of God in everyone who was there. These fuckers surrendered to CNN,
>>>they knew better then to move their tanks and equipment before a cease fire was
>>>called. Point is, war is war and all bets are off. Fuck Vietnam, if we're gonna do
>>>it, do it right and bomb the shit out of Hanoi.
>>>
>>>Any son of a bitch who says war is civil can fuck right off.
>>
>> Dubya gotta kick them sumbitches' ass. No leader should defy the UN
>> like this and live to tell about it. Down with tyrants.
>
>Yes. It is highly amusing to hear the Americans banging on about Iraq
>"defying the will of the international community". Er, like they did
>over Kyoto, do they mean? Or like they did over the Interational Court
>of Human Rights, do they mean? Etc, etc, etc . . .
Hehe, yeah that International Court stuff was cause for some debate
here in the Netherlands. One scenario was that US marines would invade
the Netherlands in order to get US war criminals out (they would land
at Scheveningen, next to The Hague where Milosovic is now). Ofcourse
they wouldn't have a shot on their own, the dutch navy is one of the
most powerfull in the world. Unless they get some help from Blair
ofcourse which would not be unthinkable in such an unlikely scenario.
I think Bush and his sidekicks are doing a great service to the
development of a united european army. He insults countries like
Germany, gets fucked in the arse by Tony Blair, before we know it
we're all called Nazis and be part of the empire of evil.
Make no mistake, the combined armies of Europe are second only to
those of the americans, this is a good time to get them united and get
rid of those pacifist losers who run them before we're overrun by the
yanks :-)
Brandi Weed
fakeam...@aol.com says...
> Rotten.com is fucking depressing.And to know that their are fucking scumbag
> coroner's that would send in the fucking pictures of someone's dead baby to a
> cheap disgusting and merciless website pisses me the fuck off.
What about the ones who make websites themselves for their own dead
babies?
Brandi [No. Really.]
Joachim Løvf
Free...@GoingToWar.com says...
>
> "bod" <bod...@ntlworld.com> wrote in message
> news:b26rqj$198o2e$1...@ID-77616.news.dfncis.de...
> >
> >
> > difference between the two then your just another sicko!
> >
> Some look at corpses everyday, for a living. Are they all sick weirdos?
> (Not that I really care to look at that shit.)
I think you missed the point there, pimp.
--
"I had no idea what happiness and little love could bring
Or what life had in store
But all things move toward their end"
jlovf ( at ) online (dot) no
gareth young
> Paul Mesken wrote:
>
> > Anyway, all stuff on www.rotten.com is real, it's send in by coroners
> > and stuff. It's not much sicker than watching those documentaries with
> > surgery in it (I love those, it's great to see how the body looks from
> > the inside).
> >
> > Ah, perhaps it is sick but you can't get better gore than that (check
> > out the new helicopter accident).
>
> You Dutch have a funny idea about what constitutes entertainment.
>
--
Gareth
quote of the day
'That's Rosemary! She's a friend of mine!'
gareth young
> more often than not, a shark will attack out of accident....dont give
sharks
> bad press!
we've got some kind of shark apologist here!
bod and sharky sitting in a tree etc etc
gareth young
"BloodRedRazorBlade" <childo...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> Someone said the stuff they (Rotten) show is real. I'm not too sure if
> that holds for everything on there. The picture of the Asian
> guy eating fetuses with some caption saying this was the latest
> gourmet craze 'round those parts was completely made up. The
> guy was an artist who somehow procured aborted fetuses for an
> art exhibit. Tasteless? Yeah.
>
> Nothing more
that guy was on a channel 4 art documentary over here and it was portrayed
as real (whether it was or not).
what was real was that in another article on the same show a bunch of arty
types gathered to drink wine made from a donated severed penis from a man
having a sex change operation.
one of them became abusive to the camera crew because they wouldn't join in
and drink some.
Paul Mesken
<joa...@deadspam.com> wrote:
>In article <m6N1a.11518$q91.1...@news2.west.cox.net>,
>Free...@GoingToWar.com says...
>>
>> "bod" <bod...@ntlworld.com> wrote in message
>> news:b26rqj$198o2e$1...@ID-77616.news.dfncis.de...
>> >
>> >
>> > to undersatand horror is to understand pity....if you cant figure the
>> > difference between the two then your just another sicko!
>> >
>> Some look at corpses everyday, for a living. Are they all sick weirdos?
>> (Not that I really care to look at that shit.)
>
>I think you missed the point there, pimp.
No, I don't think he has. As a matter of fact, I think he hits the
nail on the head.
Rotten shows the other side of our human embodiment, we are flesh
creatures and can look brutally disgusting, we can rot, be infested by
worms, have our brains shot out of our heads, etc. What Rotten shows
is how rotten our bodies can look. Most people don't want to know.
Likewise, most people don't want to see where the meat balls they're
eating come from and that animals were sacrificed for it (Wir haben es
nicht gewusst), same goes for animal testing. War is the same thing,
people simply don't want to know what it really looks like, they want
to hear about glory, patriotism, doing the right thing, etc. but
there's little glory on the battlefield.
People are so disgusted by the sight of *real* death and mutilation
that they believe it's sick to even want to look at or be involved in
such a thing. I don't believe most people visiting Rotten are sick but
merely curious about or fascinated by this other side of our bodies.
Ofcourse it's gross but that doesn't mean you have to be some sadist
to look at it voluntarily.
Paul Mesken
<d...@btinternet.com> wrote:
>
>"Dr Walpurgis" <drwal...@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote in message
>news:U9GcndyaV_N...@giganews.com...
>> Paul Mesken wrote:
>>
>> > Anyway, all stuff on www.rotten.com is real, it's send in by coroners
>> > and stuff. It's not much sicker than watching those documentaries with
>> > surgery in it (I love those, it's great to see how the body looks from
>> > the inside).
>> >
>> > Ah, perhaps it is sick but you can't get better gore than that (check
>> > out the new helicopter accident).
>>
>> You Dutch have a funny idea about what constitutes entertainment.
>>
> i bet he makes horse fisting films for a living!
Nah, I work with eels, they're cheaper ;-)
gareth young
> > i bet he makes horse fisting films for a living!
>
> Nah, I work with eels, they're cheaper ;-)
>
at least you have a sense of humour!
now look -there's no way in a million years you're going to convince most of
use that rotten.com is worthwhile -best to agree to disagree.
Paul Mesken
<d...@btinternet.com> wrote:
>
>"bod" <bod...@ntlworld.com> wrote in message
>news:b26ppd$1947kv$1...@ID-77616.news.dfncis.de...
>
>> more often than not, a shark will attack out of accident....dont give
>sharks
>> bad press!
>
>we've got some kind of shark apologist here!
>bod and sharky sitting in a tree etc etc
LOL! Actually, Bod does have a point (purely by chance ofcourse).
There are few sharks that really attack people (only the Tiger and
Hammerhead I believe, they're very aggressive). We're not on their
menu but a swimming human looks to a shark conspicuously like a seal
(and those are *on* the menu). After a quick bite they usually realize
their mistake and leave causing all those survivors with missing legs
and stuff.
Ofcourse evolution has a way of punishing animals who are so dense to
attack the master race and the great white shark almost became extinct
due to the hunting that followed a number of incidents on the amarican
east coast just before WW2. Lucky for them, the discovery channel was
invented just in time ;-)
Tim Harden
Tim...
http://www.texaschainsawmassacre.net
"Jason Gaylor" <TeenPop...@webtv.net> wrote in message
news:24104-3E...@storefull-2357.public.lawson.webtv.net...
Paul Mesken
<t...@texaschainsawmassacre.net> wrote:
>So I guess you never go to http://www.ogrish.com or http://www.goregasm.com?
>
>Tim...
BUUURAAARRRGGGG!
Singing soup, blowing cookies, calling for Ralph, shouting at the
floor, the Technicolor yawn.
*cough* *cough*
Thanks, great site, I'll check it out further once I've put my stomach
back in :-)
Paul Mesken
<d...@btinternet.com> wrote:
>
>"Paul Mesken" <usu...@euronet.nl> wrote in message
>news:3gof4vcpqkljh3qo1...@4ax.com...
>> > i bet he makes horse fisting films for a living!
>>
>> Nah, I work with eels, they're cheaper ;-)
>>
>
>at least you have a sense of humour!
I've made nothing but jokes since I got here. Ah, that's the tragedy
of dutch humour, nobody gets it ;-)
bod
> On Mon, 10 Feb 2003 16:50:14 -0000, "gareth young"
> <d...@btinternet.com> wrote:
>
> >
> >"bod" <bod...@ntlworld.com> wrote in message
> >news:b26ppd$1947kv$1...@ID-77616.news.dfncis.de...
> >
> >> more often than not, a shark will attack out of accident....dont give
> >sharks
> >> bad press!
> >
> >we've got some kind of shark apologist here!
> >bod and sharky sitting in a tree etc etc
>
> LOL! Actually, Bod does have a point (purely by chance ofcourse).
> There are few sharks that really attack people (only the Tiger and
> Hammerhead I believe, they're very aggressive). We're not on their
> menu but a swimming human looks to a shark conspicuously like a seal
> (and those are *on* the menu). After a quick bite they usually realize
> their mistake and leave causing all those survivors with missing legs
> and stuff.
>
what makes you think i posted it out of chance?
--
--
regards from BOD! (as seen in viz magazine...and ill never let you forget
it!!)
this message was posted at booze levil :
"dont worry yoko, its only a friggin water pist...."
JOHN LENNON 1980
see bod pissing in the wind at...
www.bodland.co.uk the home of bod!
John W. Donaldson
> babies?
>
> Brandi [No. Really.]
{shudder}
Just for the record the first "Faces of Death" type commercial film
seems to be "The Execution of Li-Tang, the Chunchus Chief of
Manchurian bandits" filmed by Russian cameraman P. Kobtson for Pathé
and listed in the Charles Urban catalog of 1904.
saint
>
>I went through all the images awhile back, when I was bored, and came
>across a picture that I couldn't get out of my mind for days: Some
>poor guy had been thrown from his motorcycle, and I think hit a metal
>pole; he appeared to be sitting up on a hospital gurney with his face
>completely destroyed. I won't get any more graphic than that, but it
>was an image I wish I'd never, ever seen. Horrendous.
I thought he'd just been to a Slayer concert and got a little too
drunk.
Paul Mesken
wrote:
>
>what makes you think i posted it out of chance?
>
Jesus told me
Michael Rogers
honest, I do have somewhat of a morbid curiousity to see the real thing
in pictures and video... in very small doses... because it does get to
me.
I saw the morticycle accident and couldn't believe he was sitting up,
number 1, and number 2, I sincerely hoped that platic surgery is
advanced enough to do something for him.
Mike
Rob
> On Sun, 09 Feb 2003 21:29:31 GMT, Bombsquad
> <Djangoth...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> >
> >
> >Bauknin wrote:
> >
> >> In article <9Fs1a.44033$jM5.1...@newsfeeds.bigpond.com>, "Rob"
> >> <R...@nooSssppaam.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> << But how is it any different from the film footage of "Turkey shoot"
a the
> >> end of the first Gulf War. These people were running away. Pilots
patting
> >> each of other on the back and saying it was like shooting fish in a
barrel. >>
> >>
> >> It's different because the pilots got paid to do it, making them hired
killers.
> >> -Doug
> >
> >It was WAR, fuckers. And we know successfully Iraq disarmed themselves,
so we
> >helped them along. I thought it was a savage and brilliant tactical move
and it put
> >the very fear of God in everyone who was there. These fuckers surrendered
to CNN,
> >they knew better then to move their tanks and equipment before a cease
fire was
> >called. Point is, war is war and all bets are off. Fuck Vietnam, if we're
gonna do
> >it, do it right and bomb the shit out of Hanoi.
> >
> >Any son of a bitch who says war is civil can fuck right off.
> >
>
> different from that of peace time. War is all about ruthless
> opportunism and thus winning by all means. There're no points for
> style in war.
>
Fine but don't complain about 9/11 it was nothing personal it was just war.
Paul Mesken
<mi...@rochester.rr.com> wrote:
>I saw one FOD tape once and it looked about 75% faked to me. But to be
>honest, I do have somewhat of a morbid curiousity to see the real thing
>in pictures and video... in very small doses... because it does get to
>me.
>
Yeah, I saw a couple of them as well (I believe 1 and 2). They sucked.
>I saw the morticycle accident and couldn't believe he was sitting up,
>number 1, and number 2, I sincerely hoped that platic surgery is
>advanced enough to do something for him.
>
Well, it's amazing what they can do nowadays. I don't remember the
name of the action ("Operation Smile" or something) but a bunch of
plastic surgeons travel each year to third world countries where they
work miracles on children with very severe deformations. It's a great
thing these surgeons do this all for charity, ofcourse they do get
paid a bundle with their normal day job making beautifull women even
more beautifull but I guess the charity work is what it's really about
for them (also more of a challenge ofcourse :-)
Paul Mesken
>
>"Paul Mesken" <usu...@euronet.nl> wrote in message
>> Yes, you're right about that. The politics of war are completely
>> different from that of peace time. War is all about ruthless
>> opportunism and thus winning by all means. There're no points for
>> style in war.
>>
>
>Fine but don't complain about 9/11 it was nothing personal it was just war.
>
I'm not complaining but I thought it was an incredible stupid thing to
do, we all know what the americans are capable of doing. The
terrorists have squandered any good will left in the West and have
done the people they claim to protect a great disservice.
CHIM CHIM the VideoMonkey
I visit rotten.com quite regularly.
It's like I used to tell my mom when she found my Playboy magazines under my
bed, "It's the articles, not the picture..."
And besides, I think if everyone sees what rotten things go on in the world,
maybe they might do something about it, or not.....
"Paul Mesken" <usu...@euronet.nl> wrote in message
news:iemf4v47l8uvr06o2...@4ax.com...
Coyote
<david...@NOSPAMwebtribe.net> wrote:
>
>"Coyote" <lamb...@dinner.com> wrote in message
>news:hlsd4vsobq54ktklu...@4ax.com...
>> On Sun, 09 Feb 2003 19:30:18 +0100, Paul Mesken <usu...@euronet.nl>
>> wrote:
>>
>> >On Sun, 09 Feb 2003 18:08:01 GMT, jus...@south-over.demon.co.uk
>> >(Justin Kerswell) wrote:
>> >
>> >>On Sun, 09 Feb 2003 17:39:07 GMT, WideScreenPig <ws...@rogers.com>
>> >>wrote:
>> >>
>> >>>I'm the same way with the Bud Dwyer suicide footage--saw it once,
>> >>>never want to see it, or anything like it, ever again.
>> >>>
>> >> ... same here. I saw that footage of a girl being hit by a train, and
>> >>I can safely say my appetite for real life horror has been well and
>> >>truly quenched. It's make believe all the way for me now.
>> >>
>> >
>> >I take it you guys never check out www.rotten.com ?
>>
>> I went through all the images awhile back, when I was bored, and came
>> across a picture that I couldn't get out of my mind for days: Some
>> poor guy had been thrown from his motorcycle, and I think hit a metal
>> pole; he appeared to be sitting up on a hospital gurney with his face
>> completely destroyed. I won't get any more graphic than that, but it
>> was an image I wish I'd never, ever seen. Horrendous.
>
> Agree. I saw this pic and it haunted me for days. Rotten labelled it as
>"nothing gets between me and my Harley" or some shit like that. in fact, the
>Snopes (www.snopes.com) message board site, in the horrors section had a
>multi page debate whether the image was faked or not. Most people seemed to
>agree that the man without a face was a masterpiece of makeup.
>
Well, I hope so...that's what I kept telling myself, anyway. The one
thing I thought was suspect was the fact that he appeared to be
sitting up. If I had to make a guess, though, I'd say it was
authentic.
Not going to look at it again, however.
Bauknin
In article <3E46C79D...@yahoo.com>, Bombsquad
<Djangoth...@yahoo.com> wrote:
<< Any son of a bitch who says war is civil can fuck right off.
Bombsquad >>
War isn't civil. That's the problem. -Doug
Michael Rogers
Paul Mesken wrote:
>
> On Mon, 10 Feb 2003 22:25:51 GMT, Michael Rogers
> <mi...@rochester.rr.com> wrote:
>
> >I saw one FOD tape once and it looked about 75% faked to me. But to be
> >honest, I do have somewhat of a morbid curiousity to see the real thing
> >in pictures and video... in very small doses... because it does get to
> >me.
> >
>
> Yeah, I saw a couple of them as well (I believe 1 and 2). They sucked.
The one I saw might've been three and there was one segment that I
thought was genuine. Someone was filming when paramedics came to help a
guy who was working on a car and the jack caved or something. His lower
leg was nearly severed by the wheel and brake assembly falling on it.
When they pulled him out it went from nearly severed to severed and I
noticed you could see the muscles contracting in the stump area. That
was nasty....
and different from most of the rest of the stuff where they had movie
style editing and the same switching from normal shot to makeup effect.
effects dummy etc that we are used to in horror movies.
> paid a bundle with their normal day job making beautifull women even
> more beautifull but I guess the charity work is what it's really about
> for them (also more of a challenge ofcourse :-)
That's great, I never heard of that.
Best,
Mike
Coyote
<mi...@rochester.rr.com> wrote:
>I saw one FOD tape once and it looked about 75% faked to me.
For what it's worth, I was working on some film or another with a
couple of other FX makeup artists who had done at least one of the FOD
films, and both said that for whichever tape (or tapes) it was, almost
everything had been faked.
Ed Luskey
and I wish to god I hadn't. I still can't get the one out of my mind.
In some asian country there is a hostage situation and they eventually
all start running out the building. Well one get's mistaken for one of
the bad guys and some trigger happy cop shoots him in the chest with a
shotgun at point blank range. I have never seen so much blood so fast!
Of course the poor bastard didn't die instantly, you see him laying
there holding one of his hands to his head while the pool of blood
gets bigger and bigger...They never showed him actually die but there
is no way someone can lose that much blood and live. Christ I'm
getting faint just thinking about it. no more for me...
Ed
Jason Gaylor
corpses everyday and has to do things to them that I don't want to
describe here. When I go down there to visit him. He tells me some
pretty twisted sick stories about what all he's seen as a mortician. And
I'm here to tell you. Even he get's very emotional and cries at times by
what he's seen. He can take and has been trained to stomach things that
most people couldn't even realize but he is human and get's very upset
when telling me the many stories. Now, you can't tell me that the shit
on "Rotten.com" is not effecting and isn't any harm because it is.
Especially to the average person who hasn't seen this crap before and
shouldn't want to see it.
Dr Walpurgis
>>>>i bet he makes horse fisting films for a living!
>>>
>>>Nah, I work with eels, they're cheaper ;-)
>>
>>at least you have a sense of humour!
>
> I've made nothing but jokes since I got here. Ah, that's the tragedy
> of dutch humour, nobody gets it ;-)
I worked for one of Holland's biggest companies for a few years. I get
it. What I don't get, though, is how you reconcile that wholesome image
of windmills, clogs and cheeses with a penchant for snuff sites and
horse-fisting videos.
--
"Right! Bring in the perverts!" - Ispettore Morosini (Enrico Salerno)
L'UCCELLO DALLE PIUME DI CRISTALLO
Dr Walpurgis
> I saw one FOD tape once and it looked about 75% faked to me.
No shit.
BloodRedRazorBlade
>"Dai" wrote:
>>
>>"Coyote" wrote:
>>>
>>> I went through all the images awhile back, when I was bored, and came
>>> across a picture that I couldn't get out of my mind for days: Some
>>> poor guy had been thrown from his motorcycle, and I think hit a metal
>>> pole; he appeared to be sitting up on a hospital gurney with his face
>>> completely destroyed. I won't get any more graphic than that, but it
>>> was an image I wish I'd never, ever seen. Horrendous.
>>
>> Agree. I saw this pic and it haunted me for days. Rotten labelled it as
>>"nothing gets between me and my Harley" or some shit like that. in fact, the
>>Snopes (www.snopes.com) message board site, in the horrors section had a
>>multi page debate whether the image was faked or not. Most people seemed to
>>agree that the man without a face was a masterpiece of makeup.
>
>Well, I hope so...that's what I kept telling myself, anyway. The one
>thing I thought was suspect was the fact that he appeared to be
>sitting up. If I had to make a guess, though, I'd say it was
>authentic.
>
>Not going to look at it again, however.
Isn't it interesting how many such little internet legends
there are out there? And we all know about them. Things like
this make me wonder where they originated.
Without further ado...
Originally this post was a lot longer 'cause I was going
to list the possible stories I found behind this picture.
After a bit of digging around it got too long so I'll
stick with what I consider to be plausible facts. First off,
this article did appear in the Associated Press in '97:
*****************************************************************
[Associated Press, Kincaid, W. VA] Blasting Cap Explodes in Man's
Mouth at Party
A man at a party popped a blasting cap into his mouth and bit down,
triggering an explosion that blew off his lips, teeth and tongue,
state police said Wednesday.
Jerry Stromyer, 24, of Kincaid, bit the blasting cap as a prank
during a party late Tuesday night, said Cpl. M.D. Payne.
''Another man had it in an aquarium, hooked to a battery, and was
trying to explode it,'' Payne said. ``It wouldn't go off and this guy
said, `I'll show you how to set it off.'
''He put it in his mouth and bit down. It blew all his teeth off, his
tongue and his lips,'' Payne said.
Stromyer was listed in guarded condition Wednesday with extensive
facial injuries, according to a spokesman at Charleston Area Medical
Division.
``I just can't imagine anyone doing something like that,'' Payne said.
*****************************************************************
Here's a shorter version of the article, also attributed to the
Associated Press:
*****************************************************************
Blasting Cap Explodes in Man's Mouth at Party. A man at a party popped
a blasting cap into his mouth and bit down, triggering an explosion
that blew off his lips, teeth and tongue, state police said Wednesday.
Jerry Stromyer, 24, of Kincaid, bit the blasting cap as a prank during
a party.
*****************************************************************
There are also a few other stories, one placing him in Indiana
in 2000 and claiming this was a failed shotgun suicide attempt.
I think the person who said this (in rec.motorcycles) must have
been mistaken. I'll ignore this completely.
Another person in rec.pyrotechnics says he was a miner and this
happened in a mining town. The blasting cap is spoken of as being
an M80.
Jerry Stromyer is listed living in Indiana.
There you have it. No motorcycle accident.
no spam
rotten.com One image of a 15 year old Aussie girl with half her calf
ripped off from a shark attack numbed my legs soon after. I don't
undestand how people can take pleasure in the gruesome
misfortune of others. It's just wrong, man.