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adam_...@my-deja.com

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In article <39EC...@MailAndNews.com>,
Tom Goode <crea...@MailAndNews.com> wrote:
> Anyone remember The Giant Gila Monster? Or Them?
>
> Two of my favorite films. The overgrown lizard wrecking hot-rods in the
> desert
> and giant ants attacking ships at sea.
>
> These were excellent movies; what ever happened to fun in horror movies?
>
> What are your favorite fifties horror films?
>
> Tom
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THEM was just on AMC recently. I still enjoy this movie. Haven't seen TGHM
in years, but even as a kid I thought it was pretty awful.

I still like the old Creature From the Black lagoon movies. Just caught THE
CREATURE WALKS AMONG US today on the Sci Fi channell. I was lucky enough to
see a revivalof the original CFTBL years ago in the theater in 3D. It was
great and the 3d really added to it.


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DAM

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Them is a classic, no doubt. But really a science fiction film (as
wellas detective story!)

The Giant Gila Monster is also a favourite. Love those songs!

The fifties was the era of science fiction cinema. But there were a lot
of great (and not-so-great) little-known horror films that managed to
get released. As well as the usual sci-fi/horror classics, there are
works I have a real soft-spot for...

The Vampire... 1957
More sci-fi than horror, but a really great little shocker.

The Killer Shrews... 1959
This is a real favourite. I just love the whole thing. From the
excessive boozing, bizarre science and dialogue to the really inventive
climax.

Frankenstein's Daughter... 1958
A Frankenstein in the burbs, and featuring a pre-Philapines-bound John
Ashley and HArold Lloyd's son! What more can you ask for? Great dialogue
and ridiculous makeup.

The Strange Door... 1951
Although it's got my favourite actor (Boris Karloff) in it, this is
Charles LAughton's film. And he's absolutely breathtaking in his
hamminess!

Pharaoh's Curse... 1957?
An almost forgotten mummy film and a damn decent one as well. Good
makeup.

The Werewolf... 1957
This is one I've always wanted to see, but haven't been able to track
down.

The Haunted Strangler/Corridors Of Blood... 1958
Two great little British Karloff vehicles. I can recommend the DVD's of
both of these. Excellent performances and good stories. Corridors is
more a historical drama with horror elements, but Strangler is pure
horror. Also Corridors features a great early turn by Chris Lee as
Resurrection Joe.

The Naked Jungle... 1952
This George Pal film with Chuck Heston and Eleanor PArker is more
adventure than anything else. But those damn ants are still scary.
Heston is in rare form here. As in rarely has he been more over-intense.
"Marabunta"!

Terror Is A Man... 1959
A real gem from the Phillipines, with Richard (When Worlds Collide) Derr
and Francis (The Return Of Dracula) Lederer. Another take on Wells'
Island Of Doctor Moreau. The Image DVD is great.

Bride Of The Gorilla... 1951
Raymond Burr changes into a gorilla by night! Is his new bride safe? Can
FRENCH POLICE INSPECTOR!!!!! Lon Chaney, Jr. save the day? In short, a
lot of fun.

The Maze... 1953
William Cameron Menzies, Richard Carlson and a script right out of ol'
HPL's territory. What more could you ask for?

Phantom Of The Rue Morgue... 1953
Karl Malden AND Merv Griffin? Ol' Bumnose goes right off his rocker in
this lurid and entertaining shocker.

Cult Of The Cobra... 1955
Another great one from the studio I love. MArshall Thompson and Faith
Domergue star (as well as David Jansen!) in this tale of the snake
people of a mystical eastern religion.

The Black Sleep... 1956
Basil Rathbone, John Carradine, Akim Tamaroff, Bela Lugosi, Lon Chaney,
Jr., Tor Johnson
Although it's a bit depressing seing Chaney and Lugosi reduced to such
roles, this one is still damn good fun.

From Hell It Came... 1956
Walking tree monster. 'Nuff said. You have to see it to believe it.

I Bury The Living... 1959
A real low-budget tour de force right to the copout ending. Highly
recommended.

The Return Of Dracula... 1958
Francis Lederer stars as the count in this loose remake of Hitchcock's
Shadow Of A Doubt.

Caltiki, The Immortal Monster... 1959
Bava's wonderful imagery and effects save a really bizarre plot and
terrible dubbing. Another film with serious HPL overtones.

Curse Of The Undead... 1959
Only Universal could give us a Vampire western. Turns out it's quite a
decent, albeit slow little horror movie.

The Hideous Sun Demon... 1959
This one is not to be taken seriously. But it is fun and does feature a
surprisingly good makeup.

The Leech Woman... 1959
Colleen Grey is truly beautiful, and this is another worthwhile, if
lesser-known, little horror that slipped through the sci-fi cracks of
50's Universal International.

Mania... 1959
An excellent performance by both Cushing and Pleasance (as well as
Billie Whitelaw) imbue this low-budget masterpiece of grave-robbing with
a true, gritty realism.

Night Of The Ghouls... 1959
Ed Wood's semi-sequel to Plan 9 is just unbelievable. Yes, this is the
one that sat in the film lab for 23 years, becuase poor Eddie couldn't
pay the processing bill. Like a 90 min. car accident.

FrMerrin

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On Sat, 02 Sep 2000 14:58:13 GMT, DAM <d...@intranet.ca> wrote:

>Them is a classic, no doubt. But really a science fiction film (as
>wellas detective story!)

Although it does depend on where you put the monster movie as a genre.
Personally, I place it in both SF and horror camps.
--

Mike Sutton

CultCuts

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Sep 7, 2000, 12:26:25 PM9/7/00
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Tom Goode wrote:

> Anyone remember The Giant Gila Monster? Or Them?

Ofcourse! The Giant Gila Monster just was released awhile back on DVD as a
double feature with The Killer Shrews.
THEM! is a classic example of giant monster movies done right. Very wise in
execution and not showing the giants right away and working on the mystery
and the suspense of the story.

>
>
> Two of my favorite films. The overgrown lizard wrecking hot-rods in the
> desert

That poor lizard was slowly pushed through model buildings! Hysterical to
watch.

>
> and giant ants attacking ships at sea.

? I don't remember this scene in THEM! Most of it takes place in the
desert and the finale in the LA sewer water system.

>
>
> These were excellent movies; what ever happened to fun in horror movies?

Styles change, but in my opinion the fun never ended! All genres and
decades have their duds.

>
>
> What are your favorite fifties horror films?

Too many to list!
Mark
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DAM

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Sep 7, 2000, 6:35:38 PM9/7/00
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CultCuts wrote:
>
> Tom Goode wrote:
>
> > Anyone remember The Giant Gila Monster? Or Them?
>
> Ofcourse! The Giant Gila Monster just was released awhile back on DVD as a
> double feature with The Killer Shrews.
> THEM! is a classic example of giant monster movies done right. Very wise in
> execution and not showing the giants right away and working on the mystery
> and the suspense of the story.
>
> >
> >
> > Two of my favorite films. The overgrown lizard wrecking hot-rods in the
> > desert
>
> That poor lizard was slowly pushed through model buildings! Hysterical to
> watch.
>
> >
> > and giant ants attacking ships at sea.
>
> ? I don't remember this scene in THEM! Most of it takes place in the
> desert and the finale in the LA sewer water system.

This sequence was between the ants' discovery and their final location
in the LA sewer system.

Jason Roth

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Sep 7, 2000, 6:49:00 PM9/7/00
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On Thu, 7 Sep 2000, DAM wrote:
>
> This sequence was between the ants' discovery and their final location
> in the LA sewer system.
>

I've heard Leonard Nimoy made his first appearance in THEM, but I've
watched it twice recently and haven't been able to spot him.
Little help?

JR

CultCuts

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Sep 7, 2000, 7:52:11 PM9/7/00
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DAM wrote:

Ahh, the memory returns! Thanks, just goes to show me that I need to sit and
watch it again!
Mark
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Damien Cain

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On Thu, 07 Sep 2000 22:35:38 GMT, DAM <d...@intranet.ca> Who really is
just a piece of shit wrote after he bled himself from the wipes

Hi buddy :)

LArry Stanley

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Sep 7, 2000, 10:41:10 PM9/7/00
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Nope. Fess Parker was THEM; Nimoy was Zombies of the Stratospere.

LArry
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Jason Roth

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Sep 8, 2000, 12:45:40 AM9/8/00
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On Fri, 8 Sep 2000, LArry Stanley wrote:
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> Nope. Fess Parker was THEM; Nimoy was Zombies of the Stratospere.

Aaaah, was Fess the guy in the looney bin?
JR

Walter Lane

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Sep 8, 2000, 1:14:18 AM9/8/00
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Haven't they been talking about a remake of THEM?

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James J. Dominguez

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Walter Lane <horr...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> Haven't they been talking about a remake of THEM?

<moe> Dear God no! </moe>

I think that some remake ideas have potential, and some do not. THEM!
is a great sf/action/monster movie classic, and anyone making a remake could
never do better. There is far too much space beneath such a fine film for
an inferior remake.


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Jason Roth

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On Fri, 8 Sep 2000, James J. Dominguez wrote:
>
> <moe> Dear God no! </moe>
>
> I think that some remake ideas have potential, and some do not. THEM!
> is a great sf/action/monster movie classic, and anyone making a remake could
> never do better. There is far too much space beneath such a fine film for
> an inferior remake.

Aliens was almost a remake of sorts...Little girl is sole
survivor, queens which must be destroyed, claustrophobic atmosphere.
JR

Eric Smith

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Sep 8, 2000, 4:58:52 PM9/8/00
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In article <39B85069...@earthlink.net>, LArry Stanley
<ufb...@earthlink.net> wrote:

> Jason Roth wrote:
> >
> > On Thu, 7 Sep 2000, DAM wrote:
> > >
> > > This sequence was between the ants' discovery and their final location
> > > in the LA sewer system.
> > >
> >
> > I've heard Leonard Nimoy made his first appearance in THEM, but I've
> > watched it twice recently and haven't been able to spot him.
> > Little help?
> >
> > JR
>
> Nope. Fess Parker was THEM; Nimoy was Zombies of the Stratospere.

Wrong, Nimoy is in THEM... blink and you'll miss him. He is the army
guy at the teletype who reads the report to a secretary,

james Mcconnell

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Sep 8, 2000, 9:27:24 PM9/8/00
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isn't clint eastwood in "them"??
or was it in "the beast from 20,000 fathoms"??
i lose track, especially this late
jamie


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FrMerrin

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On Sat, 9 Sep 2000 02:27:24 +0100, "james Mcconnell"
<zomb...@horrorfan.fsnet.co.uk> wrote:

>isn't clint eastwood in "them"??
>or was it in "the beast from 20,000 fathoms"??
>i lose track, especially this late

Lee Van Cleef is in "Beast..."

Clint is in "Tarantula" and "Revenge of the Creature"
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James J. Dominguez

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james Mcconnell <zomb...@horrorfan.fsnet.co.uk> wrote:
> isn't clint eastwood in "them"??

Nope, he is the briefly-seen pilot who napalms the titular megarachnid
at the end of "Tarantula".

LArry Stanley

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Sep 9, 2000, 2:35:06 AM9/9/00
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Yep. Wasn't he fun?

LArry Stanley

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Sep 9, 2000, 2:37:27 AM9/9/00
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"James J. Dominguez" wrote:
>
> Walter Lane <horr...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> > Haven't they been talking about a remake of THEM?
>
> <moe> Dear God no! </moe>
>
> I think that some remake ideas have potential, and some do not. THEM!
> is a great sf/action/monster movie classic, and anyone making a remake could
> never do better. There is far too much space beneath such a fine film for
> an inferior remake.
>
I agree with James. This was a great movie. Making a new one would just
destroy the myth.

LArry Stanley

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Sep 9, 2000, 2:41:10 AM9/9/00
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Son of a bitch. You are right. I most humbly apologize. As soon as I
read this, I remembered. I can even see it in my mind. I am sorry, and
will now go and flog myself silly.

I acknowledge your superiority. For now......

LArry Stanley

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Sep 9, 2000, 2:44:41 AM9/9/00
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No, I think his first too horror/sci fi films were Tarantula and Revenge
of the Creature.

At least, I think I got this one right.

Eric Smith

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In article <39B9DA53...@earthlink.net>, LArry Stanley
<ufb...@earthlink.net> wrote:

> >
> > Wrong, Nimoy is in THEM... blink and you'll miss him. He is the army
> > guy at the teletype who reads the report to a secretary,
>
> Son of a bitch. You are right. I most humbly apologize. As soon as I
> read this, I remembered. I can even see it in my mind. I am sorry, and
> will now go and flog myself silly.
>
> I acknowledge your superiority. For now.....

Ouch... didn't mean for it to come off so condescending..

DAM

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Sep 9, 2000, 11:28:43 AM9/9/00
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Eastwood's debut was in Revenge Of The Creature. He then had a slightly
larger part at the end of Tarantula. And then he hit the Zenith as one
of Donald O'Connor's pals in Francis Joins The NAvy!

DAM

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Right.

Mario Ciampa

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Il Sun, 03 Sep 2000 14:00:09 GMT, Dragonite mi porto' un messaggio di
"KD" <bob...@iname.net> che diceva:

>Go rent 'Mantinee' with John Goodman, a good rainy day movie which I'm sure
>will bring back memories.

Mantinee? I believed it was Matinee...I'm wrong?^_____^;;;;;;
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Brandi Weed

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In article <MvS5OcjnIR7s9p...@4ax.com>, mc...@hydranet.it
says...

> Il Sun, 03 Sep 2000 14:00:09 GMT, Dragonite mi porto' un messaggio di
> "KD" <bob...@iname.net> che diceva:
>
> >Go rent 'Mantinee' with John Goodman, a good rainy day movie which I'm sure
> >will bring back memories.
>
> Mantinee? I believed it was Matinee...I'm wrong?^_____^;;;;;;

No, it is Matinee. I think KD conflated the title of the movie with the
title of the movie-within-the-movie, Mant.

Brandi


LArry Stanley

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Sep 10, 2000, 5:38:11 AM9/10/00
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Oh, you didn't. I just got so pissed at myself for missing that one. And
really, as soon as I read your comment, I saw the whole scene in my
head. I have a big screen in there, with dolby sound and everything.

It just bugs me when I forget something like that, where I really love
the film it comes from.

Sorry if I sounded insulting, I really wasn't trying to be.

Best

LArry

DAM

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Sep 10, 2000, 11:54:24 AM9/10/00
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Half man, half ant... ALL TERROR! Bloody wonderful.

tha...@my-deja.com

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Sep 22, 2000, 3:00:00 AM9/22/00
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In article <39EC...@MailAndNews.com>,
Tom Goode <crea...@MailAndNews.com> wrote:

> What are your favorite fifties horror films?

They include:

Incredible Shrinking Man
Them!
Tarantula
The Fly
This Island Earth
Creature from the Black Lagoon

I guess I like bugs.

About what qualifies as horror and what qualifies as science fiction: I
consider most 50s genre scifi movies to be a combination of horror.

Most science fiction flicks then (and now) rely on a good deal of
shock, suspense, horror and fear.


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Michael Rogers

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Sep 23, 2000, 12:41:57 AM9/23/00
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Leonard Nimoy has a brief walk on and line as he hands a paper to
someone. Haven't seen it recently so that's all I remember but just look
for someone walking in, saying something, handing a paper to someone and
walking out.

Mike

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