Jim Carrey/Evil Dead
Bruce
movies to watch. Oddly enough, she wound up choosing Liar, Liar with
Jim Carrey, while I went for the classic: Evil Dead 2. Anyway, we
watched Liar, Liar first (I hated it, she loved it). Then, when my
turn came and I put Evil Dead in the VCR, I started to noticed a
couple of things about Ash. Is it just me, or has anyone else
realized that Jim Carrey has more or less stole his entire act from
Bruce Campbell in Evil Dead 2 and Army of Darkness? I mean, Ash was
doing those wild facial expressions years before In Living Color and
Ace Ventura. Then, the scene where Ash's hand is possessed and it
basically kicks Ash's ass, was almost exactly the same as the one in
Liar, Liar where Jim Carrey has to wrestle with his hand when he tries
to write a lie on a piece of paper. Then, there are some of those
great lines that Bruce had ("Who's laughing now?" and "Groovy!").
Carrey seems to have even stole Ash's delivery and timing, then made
them just a little more forced and bizarre. Has anyone else noticed
this before? I mean, I've heard Carrey called "one of the most
original comedians in years", and "a comedic genius" (among a lot of
things I don't want to print in this newsgroup). What does everyone
else think?
--Bruce
HitchKing
be surprised if Carrey "stole" Campbell's act.
"Just tell your men to keep their mouths shut
and their eyes open"
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Fiona Webster
> Is it just me, or has anyone else
> realized that Jim Carrey has more or less stole his entire act from
> Bruce Campbell in Evil Dead 2 and Army of Darkness? I mean, Ash was
> doing those wild facial expressions years before In Living Color and
> Ace Ventura.
Jim Carrey was doing wild facial expressions on stage for years
before "In Living Color" and "Ace Ventura" came out. But he's a mad
borrower: he borrows from everything he sees, and those who recognize
the allusions laugh at them. If he's seen the Evil Dead movies and picked
up some references from them, so what?
--I love the Evil Dead movies *and* Jim Carrey's comedy,
and "Cable Guy" is definitely a horror movie,
Fiona
Litchick66
>realized that Jim Carrey has more or less stole his entire act from
>Bruce Campbell in Evil Dead 2 and Army of Darkness? I mean, Ash was
>doing those wild facial expressions years before In Living Color and
>Ace Ventura.
Sorry Bruce........I'm not a Jim Carrey fan by any stretch of the imagination,
but he was doing his whole physical comedy schtick in stand up back in the very
early 80s......I have an old tape of the best of Evening at the Improv and
there he is doing the same stuff......only younger.....hehehe. Now....if you
want to accuse Carrey of stealing from somebody, go right to the source and
blame Jerry Lewis!
"Do I dare disturb the universe.........?"
Charli
SeXiZdEaD
>be surprised if Carrey "stole" Campbell's act.
I think they both share a strong resemblance to each other too.When i first saw
evil dead 2,i thought that ash looked just like jim carrey.Anyways....thaz
all...ga bye
Guy Dupre
>
> Tonight my girlfriend and I went to the video store to get a couple of
> movies to watch. Oddly enough, she wound up choosing Liar, Liar with
> Jim Carrey, while I went for the classic: Evil Dead 2. Anyway, we
> watched Liar, Liar first (I hated it, she loved it). Then, when my
> turn came and I put Evil Dead in the VCR, I started to noticed a
> realized that Jim Carrey has more or less stole his entire act from
> Bruce Campbell in Evil Dead 2 and Army of Darkness? I mean, Ash was
> doing those wild facial expressions years before In Living Color and
> basically kicks Ash's ass, was almost exactly the same as the one in
> Liar, Liar where Jim Carrey has to wrestle with his hand when he tries
> to write a lie on a piece of paper. Then, there are some of those
> great lines that Bruce had ("Who's laughing now?" and "Groovy!").
> Carrey seems to have even stole Ash's delivery and timing, then made
> them just a little more forced and bizarre. Has anyone else noticed
> this before? I mean, I've heard Carrey called "one of the most
> original comedians in years", and "a comedic genius" (among a lot of
> things I don't want to print in this newsgroup). What does everyone
> else think?
>
> --Bruce
Yeah i even thought it was him for a short time way back . We all act
like our surroundings but Jim's definitely much more diversely intense
and original even if he does act like ash a bit . I dont know maybe
there is a multi-million dollar lawsuit in there somewhere ? Anyway i
think both sets of movie's you discussed are EXCELLENT but Jim's work
is better and much more entertaining . Jim's works have great replay
value , how many times can you watch the evil dead ? Alot . How about
Ace ? Alot much more . Jim if your reading i need another small paying
job ^,,^~.
I Am The One You Warned Me Of .
Shiflet
> Yeah i even thought it was him for a short time way back . We all act
> like our surroundings but Jim's definitely much more diversely intense
> and original even if he does act like ash a bit . I dont know maybe
> there is a multi-million dollar lawsuit in there somewhere ? Anyway i
> think both sets of movie's you discussed are EXCELLENT but Jim's work
> is better and much more entertaining .
I think the opposite.
> Jim's works have great replay
> value , how many times can you watch the evil dead ? Alot .
Yes, alot.
> How about Ace ? Alot much more .
I was barely able to st through it once, and I didn't even make it all
the way through the second. Liar Liar nearly(literally) put me to sleep.
Cable Guy was pretty good, and I enjoyed the Mask, but I think I'd stick
with Evil Dead(any of them)
>Jim if your reading i need another small paying job ^,,^~.
> I Am The One You Warned Me Of .
Danny Shiflet
"We plan ahead, that way we don't have to do anything right now"-
Valentine, Tremors
John
John
similarities although Jim has taken it to the extreme. Of course he
then joked about Jim getting 20 mil or something.
Lvecrft
first...Carry has been a standup comedian/actor since the early 80's...check
out "Once Bitten"), Carrey's style of comedy displays a much stronger polish
and cracker jack timing...
Sorry, Bruce, I call it like I see it...
synthuser
> Cable Guy was pretty good
Not a big Carey fan at all but
I liked this movie.
Synthuser
BCDavis
*wiggles eyebrows*
Jim Carrey has been doing faces and wild physical comedy ALL HIS LIFE.
It's well documented from interviews w/family members and the man himself.
True, Jim does suck in everything around him like a sponge (ref. Nic
Cage), and it ends up in a movie, TV show, etc.
However, I must point out your error in saying Jim ripped off material
from Evil Dead 2. Jim was doing his own act before then, albeit
impressions, but his own material as well. "Evil Dead 2" was originally
released to theaters in 1987. Jim had already had a couple of films under
his belt: "Introducing Janet," "Once Bitten," and "Peggy Sue Got Married,"
not to mention he'd been on the comedy circuit a while as well.
"Army of Darkness," was originally released to theaters in 1993. Jim had
just filmed "Ace Ventura: Pet Detective" and "The Mask" by then. If anyone
should be accused of "ripping off someone's act," it should be the
esteemed Mr. Campbell. And I don't mean ripping off of Jim - I mean
ripping off the likes of Jerry Lewis, Buster Keaton, Andy Kaufman, Charlie
Chaplin... Heck, WE know Jim's been heavily influenced by these legends of
comedy (and I don't mean Campbell). And the timing and delivery thing...
Jim's had it down before ED2 and AoD came out. Watch his early films, and
you'll see what I'm talking about.
To see Jim's talent, you have to see more of his films. You can't just
judge him by just ONE film.
Personally, I think Carrey and Campbell would work well with each other.
It would be interesting.
Bruce
>Yeah i even thought it was him for a short time way back . We all act
>like our surroundings but Jim's definitely much more diversely intense
>and original even if he does act like ash a bit .
Bruce Campbell (Ash) was pretty damn intense in his own right in those
movies. It's like Carrey took Ash and brought him to another level of
absurdity, but it's still Ash. Even Jim's trademark facial
expressions seem to be copied from Ash. Check out Evil Dead 2 again
if you don't see it.
> I dont know maybe
>there is a multi-million dollar lawsuit in there somewhere ?
Nah. It wouldn't stand up in court, even if it is the truth.
> Anyway i
>think both sets of movie's you discussed are EXCELLENT but Jim's work
>is better and much more entertaining .
Jim can be hysterical, especially in stand up and sketch comedy. I
haven't really liked most of his movies, though. Most of them just
haven't been that well-written, IMO. I thought both Ace Venturas
sucked, I hated him in Batman Forever (I never knew the Riddler was
gay), and I despised Cable Guy (but it did have its moments). The
only movies he's ever made that I liked were Dumb & Dumber, The Mask,
and Truman Show. I don't think his work is that much better than the
Evil Dead series, especially now that I've figured out that his whole
image is just a copy of a classic character with a huge following. I
hate to say it, but that's what a hack does.
> Jim's works have great replay
>value , how many times can you watch the evil dead ? Alot . How about
>Ace ? Alot much more . Jim if your reading i need another small paying
>job ^,,^~.
Like I said, I hated Ace, and I don't ever want to see them again.
Maybe it's just me, but it seemed like a character he should have done
on In Living Color instead of the movies. Oh, and good luck on the
job.
--Bruce
The Gore-met
anyone see in this bufoon? I hate his 'humour'.
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"You make me want to beat your ears in!"
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robbie
>
> Fiona
I wouldn't go that far. I mean dark humor yes, but not really horror.
Just my opinion.
robbie
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I'm not myself today, maybe I'm you!
JEFFREY T. RUUD
> The scene where Ash's hand is possessed and it
> basically kicks Ash's ass, was almost exactly the same as the one in
> Liar, Liar where Jim Carrey has to wrestle with his hand when he tries
> to write a lie on a piece of paper.
Maybe it was some kind of satire.
> Then, there are some of those
> great lines that Bruce had ("Who's laughing now?" and "Groovy!").
> Carrey seems to have even stole Ash's delivery and timing, then made
> them just a little more forced and bizarre. Has anyone else noticed
> this before? I mean, I've heard Carrey called "one of the most
> original comedians in years", and "a comedic genius" (among a lot of
> things I don't want to print in this newsgroup). What does everyone
> else think?
You're right. I never really noticed this before.
--
O
tell me all about
Anna Livia. I want to hear all
about Anna Livia. Well, you know Anna Livia?
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JEFFREY T. RUUD
> --I love the Evil Dead movies *and* Jim Carrey's comedy,
> and "Cable Guy" is definitely a horror movie
You're all going to think I'm insane, but I think it's a horror comedy. It has a couple
frightening scenes, with humor (not that it's funny).
King Bruce
I just thought I should post one of the better flames I got for
starting this thread. I won't name who sent it, because I don't want
to offend anyone, but it makes for pretty good comedy. Enjoy. Feel
free to make your own comments wherever you like!
Now, let the show begin:
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excuse me but I got a feelin bruce cambell is you and you are jealous
of
jims success. Now Bruce Casmbell is the most corniest actor on the
planewt
I never saw one funny nor scary part in Evildead 12 or 3 (army of
darkness)
The hand thing has been done before in many other movies but it wasn;t
done
to perfection un til jim did it.
oh yeah liar liar kicks ass
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> From: Bruce <sar...@preferred.com>
> Newsgroups: alt.horror; alt.fan.jim-carrey
> Subject: Jim Carrey/Evil Dead
> Date: Thursday, July 16, 1998 1:40 AM
>
> Tonight my girlfriend and I went to the video store to get a couple of
> movies to watch. Oddly enough, she wound up choosing Liar, Liar with
> Jim Carrey, while I went for the classic: Evil Dead 2. Anyway, we
> watched Liar, Liar first (I hated it, she loved it). Then, when my
> turn came and I put Evil Dead in the VCR, I started to noticed a
> couple of things about Ash. Is it just me, or has anyone else
> realized that Jim Carrey has more or less stole his entire act from
> Bruce Campbell in Evil Dead 2 and Army of Darkness? I mean, Ash was
> doing those wild facial expressions years before In Living Color and
> Ace Ventura. Then, the scene where Ash's hand is possessed and it
> basically kicks Ash's ass, was almost exactly the same as the one in
> Liar, Liar where Jim Carrey has to wrestle with his hand when he tries
> to write a lie on a piece of paper. Then, there are some of those
> great lines that Bruce had ("Who's laughing now?" and "Groovy!").
> Carrey seems to have even stole Ash's delivery and timing, then made
> them just a little more forced and bizarre. Has anyone else noticed
> this before? I mean, I've heard Carrey called "one of the most
> original comedians in years", and "a comedic genius" (among a lot of
> things I don't want to print in this newsgroup). What does everyone
> else think?
His royal majesty,
King Bruce,
King of alt.horror
Magan & Kiyara Sumers
>this before? I mean, I've heard Carrey called "one of the most
>original comedians in years", and "a comedic genius" (among a lot of
>things I don't want to print in this newsgroup). What does everyone
>else think?
>
I have to disagree with you Bruce. The similarities of the two actors are
merely "comic situations" that have been done for years before those two.
Each comedian tries to add his/her own "personality" to these scenes, but
alas, they are all considered classics done by several comedians throughout
the years. For instance, look at Abbott and Costello, Jerry Lewis, Lucille
Ball, etc...Their facial expressions and sight comedy set the standard for
many comedians of our time.
I have been in comedy since the age of 8 when I did my first "stand-up" act
in grade school. Borrowing certain routines from others is very common...you
just have to make it more personal. I consider both of them to be excellent
actors, Bruce just seems to be under-rated unfortunately. I consider Jim to
be a comedian and Bruce a funny actor. I doubt Bruce could do stand-up very
well, but I do believe he is a good actor in comic roles. he certainly has
talent.
Bruce Campbell stays loyal to his friends Sam Raimi and Ted Raimi. That is
why you find them working together in most of Campbells projects. They were
friends from school. I think his time will come soon when he is more
"mainstream"...same goes for the Raimi's. Ted is really talented and I LOVED
Sam's stuff in Creepshow and FDTD. :-)
Daniel.Sunderland
--
I would be willing to pay to kick his ugly looking clown face !!
I hate him.
The Gore-met <gor...@goremet.com> a écrit dans l'article
<35AF59...@goremet.com>...
murrelld
correct and interesting, I think the similarities are a coincidence.
First, I think that the distinctive Ash things you point out are the
result of the director, not of Campbell himself (though I think he
executes them wonderfully). Second, Carrey's comedy does go back a long
ways, earlier than In Living Color but nontheless on record, and he's
always been interested in doing the kinds of things that made him famous.
Third, I don't think it's generally the case that a more gifted person
(Carrey, in terms of physical comedy) "steal" from less gifted people
(Cambell, ditto). Or if they do, it's sort of like it's no longer
stealing, it's more like taking the ball from them and saying "Let me show
you how it's done."
Bruce
<ma...@summerland.org> wrote:
>I have to disagree with you Bruce. The similarities of the two actors are
>merely "comic situations" that have been done for years before those two.
>Each comedian tries to add his/her own "personality" to these scenes, but
>alas, they are all considered classics done by several comedians throughout
>the years. For instance, look at Abbott and Costello, Jerry Lewis, Lucille
>Ball, etc...Their facial expressions and sight comedy set the standard for
>many comedians of our time.
I understand that, but the similarities between Campbell's stuff in
Evil Dead 2 and Carrey's stuff in Liar Liar (or his performance in
Batman Forever) seem to be just a little too much alike for there not
to be more going on here. I wonder if Carrey hasn't ripped quite a
bit of his on screen persona off of that movie now. I suggest
watching all three of these movies in the same night, starting with
Liar Liar, putting Evil Dead 2 in second, and then finishing it off
with Batman Forever. You'll see what I mean. It's almost like Carrey
went out of his way to duplicate everything he possibly could about
Ash, and then just make it a little more intense and absurd to pass it
off as his own.
>I have been in comedy since the age of 8 when I did my first "stand-up" act
>in grade school. Borrowing certain routines from others is very common...you
>just have to make it more personal. I consider both of them to be excellent
>actors, Bruce just seems to be under-rated unfortunately.
You're right about the routines, but when a performer builds their
whole career off of a routine that someone was doing years before
them, that makes them a hack. You are right about Bruce Campbell.
Whenever I mention him to someone unfamiliar with Evil Dead, I get two
responses: "Bruce who?" and "He's the corniest, hammiest, smarmiest
actor on earth.". It's a shame. He's nothing less than brilliant in
Evil Dead 2 and Army of Darkness. Too bad he hasn't gotten more work,
especially more *good* work. I rented McHale's Navy just because he
was in it. Man, was that a mistake...
> I consider Jim to
>be a comedian and Bruce a funny actor. I doubt Bruce could do stand-up very
>well, but I do believe he is a good actor in comic roles. he certainly has
>talent.
Exactly. I love Jim Carrey's standup, and I think he's brilliant in
sketch comedy (like on In Living Color). I don't really care for his
movies, though. I liked The Mask, and I loved Truman Show, but that's
about it. I despised Ace Ventura and Liar Liar, and I groaned every
time he had a scene in Batman Forever (of course, I groaned during
every scene in Batman Forever). Jim's got talent, but he's more of a
one man show than a comedic actor. Like I said, I wish that Bruce
would get some more work outside Evil Dead. I think that he might
have been able to make most of the disappointing summer "blockbusters"
into a lot of fun. Just picture him in the Matt LeBlanc role in Lost
in Space, or the Mathew Broderick part in Godzilla '98, or maybe even
the Bruce Willis part in Armageddon? I would have probably seen those
twice, provided there was a much better script, of course.
>Bruce Campbell stays loyal to his friends Sam Raimi and Ted Raimi. That is
>why you find them working together in most of Campbells projects. They were
>friends from school. I think his time will come soon when he is more
>"mainstream"...same goes for the Raimi's. Ted is really talented and I LOVED
>Sam's stuff in Creepshow and FDTD. :-)
I thought George Romero did Creepshow. Wasn't Raimi the one that did
Creepshow 2? I liked Darkman myself, and I would have loved to see
Bruce in that as the villain. What's FDTD? I can't think of that one
now. I love Sam Raimi's movies. I've got to see this. I really wish
that the public would have their eyes opened up to Sam, Ted, and
Bruce. Sam is easily one of the most original and influential
filmmakers of the past 20 years. As for them going mainstream, I
dont' want to really see that happen. Going mainstream tends to kill
any creativity in the name of making a movie that appeals to the mass
audience. That's why most big budget movies suck and why you don't
see too many of them being referred to as "original" or
"groundbreaking". That would be the kiss of death for any of these
guys careers.
His majesty,
King Bruce
Ruler of alt.horror
temp
>
> Tonight my girlfriend and I went to the video store to get a couple of
> movies to watch. Oddly enough, she wound up choosing Liar, Liar with
> Jim Carrey, while I went for the classic: Evil Dead 2. Anyway, we
> watched Liar, Liar first (I hated it, she loved it). Then, when my
> turn came and I put Evil Dead in the VCR, I started to noticed a
> couple of things about Ash. Is it just me, or has anyone else
> realized that Jim Carrey has more or less stole his entire act from
> Bruce Campbell in Evil Dead 2 and Army of Darkness? I mean, Ash was
> doing those wild facial expressions years before In Living Color and
> Ace Ventura. Then, the scene where Ash's hand is possessed and it
> basically kicks Ash's ass, was almost exactly the same as the one in
> Liar, Liar where Jim Carrey has to wrestle with his hand when he tries
> to write a lie on a piece of paper. Then, there are some of those
> great lines that Bruce had ("Who's laughing now?" and "Groovy!").
> Carrey seems to have even stole Ash's delivery and timing, then made
> this before? I mean, I've heard Carrey called "one of the most
> original comedians in years", and "a comedic genius" (among a lot of
> things I don't want to print in this newsgroup). What does everyone
> else think?
>
> --Bruce
I think you have penis envy and it's kicking your ass. Just get over it
and tell Ash to keep on cranking out those episodes of that western show
he does..god what is the name of that? Someone help me please..what is
the name of that show...
Fallon R. Moore
Magan & Kiyara Sumers
temp wrote in message <35B219...@ibm.net>...
>I think you have penis envy and it's kicking your ass. Just get over it
>and tell Ash to keep on cranking out those episodes of that western show
>he does..god what is the name of that? Someone help me please..what is
>the name of that show...
>
>Fallon R. Moore
Do you mean (The Adventures of) Brisco County Jr. ?
Magan
Magan & Kiyara Sumers
Bruce wrote in message <35b1782...@news.preferred.com>...
>I understand that, but the similarities between Campbell's stuff in
>Evil Dead 2 and Carrey's stuff in Liar Liar (or his performance in
>Batman Forever) seem to be just a little too much alike for there not
>to be more going on here. I wonder if Carrey hasn't ripped quite a
>bit of his on screen persona off of that movie now. I suggest
>watching all three of these movies in the same night, starting with
>Liar Liar, putting Evil Dead 2 in second, and then finishing it off
>with Batman Forever. You'll see what I mean. It's almost like Carrey
>went out of his way to duplicate everything he possibly could about
>Ash, and then just make it a little more intense and absurd to pass it
>off as his own.
I actually have....I own the Batman Forever and Evil Dead 2 movies, but not
Liar Liar. I am not a real big fan of Jim Carrey....even though the opening
scenes of him kicking that box around in Ace Venture were quite humorous!
But that about did it for that movie. I see the similarities, but given
enough time (and willingness) I could find at least a dozen films that he
could have ripped his routines from.
>I thought George Romero did Creepshow. Wasn't Raimi the one that did
>Creepshow 2? I liked Darkman myself, and I would have loved to see
>Bruce in that as the villain. What's FDTD? I can't think of that one
>now. I love Sam Raimi's movies. I've got to see this.
Actually according to the videos I have on my shelf, they were both done by
King and Romero. Here is where I must eat crow....you see I have made a tiny
little mistake which I know I will be butchered for on this NG for making.
So in advance I would like to apologize....I really should have known
better.
I do not believe Sam had anything to do with Creepshow 1 or 2. In fact now I
know it! (Just looked it up) FDTD is "From Dusk to Dawn" and the person I
was thinking of, who also happens to be my idol, is Tom Savini. I am not
sure how I got the two confused but I did. I will be flogging myself later
for the mistake.
> I really wish
>that the public would have their eyes opened up to Sam, Ted, and
>Bruce. Sam is easily one of the most original and influential
>filmmakers of the past 20 years. As for them going mainstream, I
>dont' want to really see that happen. Going mainstream tends to kill
>any creativity in the name of making a movie that appeals to the mass
>audience. That's why most big budget movies suck and why you don't
>see too many of them being referred to as "original" or
>"groundbreaking". That would be the kiss of death for any of these
>guys careers.
True it would be....and I most certainly dont want to see that happen. I
loved to see Traci Lords, (a chunky) Rikki Lake and Ted Raimi in "Skinner".
It was much better then I expected! :-)
Sorry for the mistake.
Magan
carlokapojospe...@gmail.com
I think the similarities aren't coincidence. Though Carrey was around before Evil Dead, there are way too much Evil Dead stuff in Carrey's movies.
First time Ace Ventura came out we All laughed our asses off because Carrey was funny, but also because of All those little Evil Dead-reminders!
When Ace Ventura walks in the room With those dead animals on the walls, the acting and camera work is Exactly like Ash turning All crazy in Evil Dead.
When Chip /Larry Tate in Cable Guy yells "Caaaable Guuuuy" and if remember correctly says something like 'nobody wants to play With me' gets angry because the door stays closed, he gets this weird transformation in his face like the Hulk but also like Ash when he turns All demonic in Evil Dead.
In Me Myself and Irene, he gets plastic surgery to have a bigger chin!! It makes him look even more like Bruce Campbell, and we All know Campbell is widely knopen for his chin, hence his autobiographic book called 'if Chins Could Kill'.
In Liar Liar is obviously 'The Claw' you mentioned a reference to Evil Dead.
Dumb and Dumber they sing the 'mocking bird song' just like sweet Henriëtta does in Evil Dead.
Of course these are small things but it All adds up! I always thought of Carrey being a big Evil Dead fan AS WE ALL ARE OF COURSE.
Andrew
Andrew
hedel....@gmail.com
> Tonight my girlfriend and I went to the video store to get a couple of
> Jim Carrey, while I went for the classic: Evil Dead 2. Anyway, we
> watched Liar, Liar first (I hated it, she loved it). Then, when my
> turn came and I put Evil Dead in the VCR, I started to noticed a
> couple of things about Ash. Is it just me, or has anyone else
> realized that Jim Carrey has more or less stole his entire act from
> Bruce Campbell in Evil Dead 2 and Army of Darkness? I mean, Ash was
> doing those wild facial expressions years before In Living Color and
> Ace Ventura. Then, the scene where Ash's hand is possessed and it
> basically kicks Ash's ass, was almost exactly the same as the one in
> Liar, Liar where Jim Carrey has to wrestle with his hand when he tries
> to write a lie on a piece of paper. Then, there are some of those
> great lines that Bruce had ("Who's laughing now?" and "Groovy!").
> Carrey seems to have even stole Ash's delivery and timing, then made
> them just a little more forced and bizarre. Has anyone else noticed
> things I don't want to print in this newsgroup). What does everyone
> else think?
>
> --Bruce
Adam
Lesmond
--
She may contain the urge to run away
But hold her down with soggy clothes and breeze blocks
Blackwingbear
scra...@gmail.com
As opinionated as some folks seem to favor Jim Carrey, they forget the facts. Bruce Campbell is a method actor in the performance of his comedy. Whereas, Jim Carrey, by his own words, is an impressionist comic performer. The other perspective some have taken is some bizarre sense of the whole, "Which came first, the chicken or the egg."
So stating that Carrey was doing standup long before Campbell was acting in films is a ridiculous and redundant statement. Campbell was an established film actor before Jim Carrey moved into the realm of the silver screen. Thus it is mote to wave the Carrey flag.
Look, don't get me wrong, Jim Carrey is a much more notable comedian, but as an impressionist, he tends to mock, lampoon, and make a farce out of what others have done. Folks, it is called satire. Yes, without a doubt Carrey is versatile, but never forget that his forte is impressionism, not originality. Whereas Bruce Campbell is stronger as method actor and deadpan physical comedy schtick.
There is a world of difference between being an impressionist and being a method actor.
For those who want to do the, "Who dunnit first." game, just has to look at Campbell's Army of Darkness and the special effects face manipulation which hit the screens in 1992. Then in 1994 Jim Carrey's movie The Mask hits the theatres where although the story on the outset is different, it's not by much as both was supernatural comedy spoofs. Army of Darkness has that surrealistic vibe where The Mask is a far more cartoon-ish and over the top CGI generation aspect. But that is Jim Carrey's routine, being outlandishly over the top. Yet The Mask is very reminiscent of the Army of Darkness film.
Now, I am not attempting to critique either/or. Everyone should know by now that critics are people who have no talent of their own. They are not screenwriters, producers, directors, or, (God forbid) actors. They have zero skills in any of these arenas. So they stir up the public merely for the sake of propaganda and marketing.
Anyone who pays mind to critics or organizations who attempt to base their critique by polls and surveys, such as Rotten Tomatoes or Metacritic are just as guilty of not having a clue what it takes to write, direct, produce or star in a film. It really doesn't matter about the budget nor the gross profit at the box office or the aggregate gross sum from all factors of original box office gross and the marketing of post run production in post theatre sales as in personally owned purchased copies or versions thereof.
The true earmark of a film is whether or not it has reestablished it self with a cult following. Face it, the Evil Dead trilogy has that esteem. Jim Carrey movies and films have not yet reached that pinnacle plateau.
Dr Walpurgis
> The true earmark of a film is whether or not it has reestablished it
> self with a cult following. Face it, the Evil Dead trilogy has that
> esteem. Jim Carrey movies and films have not yet reached that pinnacle plateau.
halloweenismy...@gmail.com
> Jim Carrey is the unfunniest man on the planet. What the hell would
> anyone see in this bufoon? I hate his 'humour'.
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> "You make me want to beat your ears in!"
> - Inspector Betti, Napoli violenta (Violent Protection)
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> Tonight my girlfriend and I went to the video store to get a couple of
> movies to watch. Oddly enough, she wound up choosing Liar, Liar with
> Jim Carrey, while I went for the classic: Evil Dead 2. Anyway, we
> watched Liar, Liar first (I hated it, she loved it). Then, when my
> turn came and I put Evil Dead in the VCR, I started to noticed a
> couple of things about Ash. Is it just me, or has anyone else
> realized that Jim Carrey has more or less stole his entire act from
> Bruce Campbell in Evil Dead 2 and Army of Darkness? I mean, Ash was
> doing those wild facial expressions years before In Living Color and
> Ace Ventura. Then, the scene where Ash's hand is possessed and it
> basically kicks Ash's ass, was almost exactly the same as the one in
> Liar, Liar where Jim Carrey has to wrestle with his hand when he tries
> to write a lie on a piece of paper. Then, there are some of those
> great lines that Bruce had ("Who's laughing now?" and "Groovy!").
> Carrey seems to have even stole Ash's delivery and timing, then made
> them just a little more forced and bizarre. Has anyone else noticed
> this before? I mean, I've heard Carrey called "one of the most
> original comedians in years", and "a comedic genius" (among a lot of
> things I don't want to print in this newsgroup). What does everyone
> else think?
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> --Bruce