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Omd17

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Jun 26, 1998, 3:00:00 AM6/26/98
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A majority of the people here don't care for sequals. But I do. They aren't
great some don't even diserve a one star rating. Others are just plain crap you
want to forget, some are so funny its hard to believe its horror. But if it
wasn't for sequals where would horror be today? I don't think any new ones
would be coming into the theater, sure we would get the forever present
straight to video ones, and occasinally find a gem, but lets face it when the
80s left so did horror. In the 80s horror ruled the big screen even if it was a
total pile of crap it still could be seen at the theater. But in the 90s action
and romance is what seemed to fill the big screen, horror movies where few here
and there. We saw more movies like the rock, ID4, conair, romeo and juliet,
titanic etc, fill the screen. Horror movies basiclly where not there, the
release of Halloween 6 I will admitt almost killed the horror genre but it
still was something, then scream came along which despite what many say saved
horror in the 90s, nothing that was even sort of original had come along in a
long time nor something that teens really wanted. But if it wasnt for the
sequals there really wasnt any new francises in horror opening up. We relied on
straight to video tapes looking for a good one in piles of crap. Some of you
may say i would rather watch zombie or night of the living dead or halloween
for the 1 millionth time, and thats good and all but I would rather have crap
sequals come out to keep the ball rolling then have no horror at all. I think
at last horror is good once more we are seeing more then ever new horror movies
comeing into the theater why in the next two years alone we have quit a few
coming out phantasm 4, scream 3, halloween 7, chuckys bride, freddy vs jason
and lots of others, while im almost positive almost none of use here will
really like any of them because we have seen the same thing before, but it gets
new people intrested in horror which is good.

Rev. Evil Ed

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Jun 26, 1998, 3:00:00 AM6/26/98
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Omd17 wrote:
>
> A majority of the people here don't care for sequals. But I do. They aren't
> great some don't even diserve a one star rating. Others are just plain crap you
> want to forget, some are so funny its hard to believe its horror. But if it
> wasn't for sequals where would horror be today?

Probably a lot better off.

> I don't think any new ones
> would be coming into the theater, sure we would get the forever present
> straight to video ones, and occasinally find a gem, but lets face it when the
> 80s left so did horror.

That's because mass marketing and sequelization KILLED good horror.
Once the sequel market went belly up, the studios thought that horror
was a dried up market, so they stopped making them - never thinking
that, hey, maybe if they started making high-profile ADULT ORIENTED
horror (like The Exorcist, The Shining, etc...) people would attend.

> In the 80s horror ruled the big screen even if it was a
> total pile of crap it still could be seen at the theater.

This is a good thing?

> scream came along which despite what many say saved
> horror in the 90s, nothing that was even sort of original had come along in a
> long time nor something that teens really wanted.

Until you have concrete proof that it "saved" the genre, I don't
believe it. Scream may have brought back "teenie slasher" films,
but that's all. These films tend to be weak, excruciatingly DULL,
stupid, and completely uninspired. Gawd, how many times does this
have to be said?

> I would rather have crap
> sequals come out to keep the ball rolling then have no horror at all.

And have any possibility of and decent new future projects strangled
by teenie-boppers with no attention spans. Whoo-hoo. Gosh, here's
a novel idea - I'D RATHER WAIT UNTIL A GOOD NEW HORROR FILM CAME ALONG
AND SEE *THAT* IN THE THEATER THAN HAVE TO SIFT THROGH ALL OF THIS
SEQUEL/TEENIE CRAP TO COME UP EMPTY HANDED.

Quality. Not quantity.

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DRAVEN1986

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Jun 27, 1998, 3:00:00 AM6/27/98
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Damn straight!!!!!It was a sequal that turned me on to the
genre!!!!!!!!!!Nightmare on elm street part 4.That piece of poop turned me into
a fan!!!!!!!!!!!

Nathro

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Jun 27, 1998, 3:00:00 AM6/27/98
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>A majority of the people here don't care for sequals. But I do. They aren't
>great some don't even diserve a one star rating. Others are just plain crap
>you
>want to forget, some are so funny its hard to believe its horror. But if it
>wasn't for sequals where would horror be today?

Well somewhat yea, my favorate horror movie is a sequel it's Evil Dead 2, a lot
of sequels are good, but when it comes to like 7 to 10 sequels, well thats
going a bit far (freddy, jason, halloween, etc.). Lets face it there are good
horror sequels (Phantasms, evil Deads) and there are horrible horror sequels
that don't actually cover new ground they just suck off the original and rehash
the same stuff and eventually we realize that it's totally pointless Freddy,
Jason and Michael Myers just can not die, so what's scary about that? I mean
you can see as many sequels as you like but the fact that they have sequels
after Freddys dead and Final Friday is a little unbelievable (as if it wasn't
already), now if they made quality sequels that would be cool, but more
originals is better. If you plan on making sequels leave the audience wanting
more like with the Phantasms, and the Evil Deads.
Even though I liked the overall movie the end of Nightmare 3 was just lame that
end looks like it was just thrown in to keep the series running, there was no
point to it. The lamest attempt at a leave you hanging ending was I know what
you did last summer, Man that was the Lamest Phantasm rip off ending you could
ever want. Scream 3 could be cool, unfortunatly they are sticking with the
same characters who once again get attacked, why don't they have ghostface try
to kill someone else or do something else or have someone bring billys and
stews corpses back to life by satanists, but now hes got super strength etc.
have him finally kill sidney but have a definate ending to the series, now that
would be better than any whos after sidney and dewley this time, geez dewly is
gonna be in a wheel chair on mobile life support to make it to the third ,
sequels should expand and cover new territory (like the Evil Deads each one has
elements of the previous but adds lots of new to the mix) if they don't cover
new territory the sequels are just going to be remembered as "basicly the same
as the original only not as good". Theres so many writers out there trying to
sell scripts, why don't they get new undiscovered writers with fresh ideas for
the sequels if the original creators are out of ideas

I don't think any new ones
>would be coming into the theater, sure we would get the forever present
>straight to video ones, and occasinally find a gem, but lets face it when the
>80s left so did horror.

Sucks doesn't it?

In the 80s horror ruled the big screen even if it was
>a
>total pile of crap it still could be seen at the theater.

That's not necessarily good.

But in the 90s
>action
>and romance is what seemed to fill the big screen, horror movies where few
>here
>and there. We saw more movies like the rock, ID4, conair, romeo and juliet,
>titanic etc, fill the screen. Horror movies basiclly where not there, the
>release of Halloween 6 I will admitt almost killed the horror genre but it

>still was something, then scream came along which despite what many say saved
>horror in the 90s,

Scream was original but all the other spin offs are basicly bogus, it was a
good fresh original idea (though it had to much gen x crap in it), why don't
they try something new again??

nothing that was even sort of original had come along in a

>long time nor something that teens really wanted. But if it wasnt for the
>sequals there really wasnt any new francises in horror opening up. We relied
>on
>straight to video tapes looking for a good one in piles of crap. Some of you
>may say i would rather watch zombie or night of the living dead or halloween

>for the 1 millionth time, and thats good and all but I would rather have crap


>sequals come out to keep the ball rolling then have no horror at all.

Well ya I guess, I'd hate to see horror dye off permenantly, but I'd also hate
to see it turn into a genre where everyone expects it to be lame, wheres all
the original stuff, probably the companies won't pony up the dough anymore so
the horror people are forced to make there movies for worse than low budget and
most never see the light of day or only get released to a few video stores. It
can truly be said that the filmmakers sticking with horror are suffering for
their craft, it's just like Metal music, I really like it, and people still
like it but not many people go for new metal groups, I mean the old fans see
the 80s groups but that can be said of any old famous groups.

I think
>at last horror is good once more we are seeing more then ever new horror
>movies
>comeing into the theater why in the next two years alone we have quit a few
>coming out phantasm 4,

Right on

scream 3, halloween 7,

eee I guess

chuckys bride,

Dear god no

freddy vs jason

I'll probably see it, but I think this really should have happened a long time
ago before they brought out Final Friday and Freddys Dead then those should
have been the last ones, nicely wrapping the series's up. When they say its
the end it should be the end.

Dr Walpurgis

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Jun 27, 1998, 3:00:00 AM6/27/98
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Omd17 wrote:

> If it wasn't for sequals where would horror be today?

We can but wonder...

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Matt Martinez

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Jun 29, 1998, 3:00:00 AM6/29/98
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Omd17 wrote:

> A majority of the people here don't care for sequals. But I do. They aren't
> great some don't even diserve a one star rating. Others are just plain crap you

> want to forget, some are so funny its hard to believe its horror. But if it


> wasn't for sequals where would horror be today?


Let's just say that if there were no horror sequels, I'd be without two of my
all-time favorite movies: EVIL DEAD II and ARMY OF DARKNESS!

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keep my hands and sleep now
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a call from heaven comes and says 'hey!!'
You know the rules of time
watch the rising sun just let him go..."
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Matt Martinez <mma...@bgnet.bgsu.edu>

BillyBond

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Jun 29, 1998, 3:00:00 AM6/29/98
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Hey, Walpurgis, I take it back. "Imposter" is not the most common misspelling
on the internet.

"Sequals" is.

Bill Warren

Dr Walpurgis

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Jun 29, 1998, 3:00:00 AM6/29/98
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BillyBond wrote:

> Hey, Walpurgis, I take it back. "Imposter" is not the most common misspelling
> on the internet.

...especially as "imposter" »isn't« a misspelling at all, according to the
Oxford English Dictionary; both "imposter" (from the French "imposteur") and
"impostor" (from the late Latin "impostor") are equally valid spellings of the
word.

> "Sequals" is.

Certainly seems like it. But hey, I don't let it bother me. Life's too short...

Waldemar Walpurgis


Omd17

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Jun 29, 1998, 3:00:00 AM6/29/98
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sorry i typed fast, i was in a rush.

Omd17

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Jun 29, 1998, 3:00:00 AM6/29/98
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but you are right I do see alot of people spelling sequals not sequels. but
once i posted it i was waiting for someone to say something about that.

Litchick66

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Jun 29, 1998, 3:00:00 AM6/29/98
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>but you are right I do see alot of people spelling sequals not sequels. but
>once i posted it i was waiting for someone to say something about that.

Nah.....I left the spelling error alone. BUT....a lot........two
words......and you're not the only one to do this, but it really does drive me
crazy.....one of those little idiosyncrasies, I suppose.....but please.......A
Lot......as in the opposite of A Little. Thank you.

"Do I dare disturb the universe.........?"
Charli

Omd17

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Jun 29, 1998, 3:00:00 AM6/29/98
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Your right thats another one you don't catch if you type fast and don't go over
it all.

Luis Canau

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Jul 1, 1998, 3:00:00 AM7/1/98
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Dr Walpurgis <TheSpamBinOf...@geocities.com> escreveu:

>...especially as "imposter" »isn't« a misspelling at all, according to the
>Oxford English Dictionary; both "imposter" (from the French "imposteur") and
>"impostor" (from the late Latin "impostor") are equally valid spellings of the
>word.

Most French words come from Latin, anyway... My diccionary says 'impostore'
for the Latin origin.

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