http://us.imdb.com/name/nm0000970/
IMDB confirms he died, but I could not find and news stories, but I heard it
on the radio last week and any links to actual news would be appreciated.
thanks.
al
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JONATHAN BRANDIS Died Nov. 12, 2003
Actor Jonathan Brandis died of at age 27. He was found at home by
friends. Results of an autopsy are pending, although the L.A. County
Coroner's office has said it may have been a suicide. A final ruling
is expected after more tests are run. Mr. Brandis delivered a standout
performance in the Stephen King mini-series "It." Brandis played
壮tuttering Bill' as a child. Richard Thomas played the character as
an adult. Mr. Brandis was nominated for five Young Artist Awards,
winning Best Youth Actor Leading Role in a Television Series for his
work on the TV series "Seaquest." Mr. Brandis took over Barret
Oliver's role as Bastian in the sequel to "The Never Ending Story."
"The Never Ending Story: II" was Mr. Brandis first leading role. He
had appeared in a number of films before that including "Fatal
Attraction," "Stepfather II" and "Ghost Dad." Mr. Brandis' other
credits include "Ladybugs," "Sidekicks," "Outside Providence," "Hart's
War" and "The Year That Trembled." In addition to his many acting
roles on TV and in film, Mr. Brandis wrote an episode for the TV
series "Seaquest." Prayers of comfort for his family and friends.
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Jonathan Brandis finally makes the AP with a multi-paragraph story.
http://www.bayarea.com/mld/mercurynews/news/local/7313962.htm
Television and film actor Jonathan Brandis dead at age 27
Associated Press
LOS ANGELES - Jonathan Brandis, who from an early age appeared
in a
string of roles on television, commercials and film, including two
seasons
on Steven Spielberg's "SeaQuest DSV," has died. He was 27.
The county coroner's office is investigating the Nov. 12 death,
which
was reported by the Los Angeles Police Department as a possible
suicide,
said Lt. Ed Winter of the coroner's Investigations Bureau.
The coroner performed an autopsy but the cause of death will not
be
announced until the results of blood and toxicology tests are
returned.
"We're not assuming it's just a suicide," Winter said.
The investigation could take as long as four to six weeks.
Police said a friend of Brandis called 911 from the actor's
apartment
just before midnight on Nov. 11 to report Brandis had attempted
suicide.
Paramedics transported Brandis to Cedars-Sinai Medical Center, but he
died
the next day, police Detective Gene Parshall said.
The office of Brandis' agent at Innovative Artists refused to
comment
on the actor's death.
Brandis started his career in commercials and on television,
landing a
recurring role on the soap "One Life to Live" at age six. After moving
with
his family to Los Angeles at age nine, he made guest appearances on
such
shows as "L.A. Law," "Who's the Boss?" and "Murder, She Wrote."
Film credits included the starring role in 1991's "The
Neverending
Story 2: The Next Chapter," the Rodney Dangerfield comedy "Ladybugs,"
and
the martial arts comedy "Sidekicks" with Chuck Norris."
Brandis also starred as crew member Lucas Wolenczek in the
underwater
sci-fi series "SeaQuest DSV," a role that garnered him a Young Artists
Award
in 1993 and helped turn him into a teen idol.
More recent film work included Ang Lee's 1999 "Ride with the
Devil,"
and the coming-of-age comedy "Outside Providence," the same year.
The candle that burns thrice as bright burns a third as long.
-ml
I may be too old but who is Jonathan Brandis?
Wasn't he the little shit Debbie Harry had in the oven in TALES FROM THE
DARKSIDE: THE MOVIE ?
No, that was Matthew Lawrence (brother of Joey). Jonathan Brandis was a
SEAQUEST DSV regular, and he was half the title role (with Chuck Norris) in
SIDEKICKS.
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Principal fame was his role on the Speilberg produced TV show "SeaQuest DSV"
(1993) as Lucas Wolenczek (1993-1996)
Groomed as the "teen-girl" clit hardening interest, in publicity Jonathan
played 2nd bananna to Darwin (the dolphin), which was being pushed as the
"brand name" toy licensing for the series.
IMDB lists lots of roles I never bothered to see (or anyone else for that
matter), his pre-DSV credits are far better than anything he was in
afterward.
He did have a fan club
The unofficial rumor seems to be he hung himself.
In the New York Times this morning
http://www.nytimes.com/2003/11/22/arts/television/22BRAN.html
Jonathan Brandis, Actor in the Cast of 'SeaQuest DSV', Dies at 27
Published: November 22, 2003
LOS ANGELES, Nov. 21 (AP) - Jonathan Brandis, who from an early age appeared
in a string of roles on television, commercials and film, including two
seasons on "SeaQuest DSV," died here on Nov. 12. He was 27.
The police said Mr. Brandis was taken to the hospital after a friend called
911 from his apartment on Nov. 11 to report a suicide attempt. He died the
next day.
The cause of death will not be announced until after blood and toxicology
tests by the county coroner's office.
Mr. Brandis started his career in commercials and on television, landing a
recurring role on the daytime drama "One Life to Live" at 6. After moving
with his family to Los Angeles at 9, he made guest appearances on shows like
"L.A. Law," "Who's the Boss?" and "Murder, She Wrote."
Film credits included the starring role in 1991's "The Neverending Story II:
The Next Chapter," the Rodney Dangerfield comedy "Ladybugs" and the martial
arts comedy "Sidekicks" with Chuck Norris."
Mr. Brandis also starred as a crew member, Lucas Wolenczek, in the
underwater sci-fi series "SeaQuest DSV," a role that won him a Young Artists
No wonder I didn't know who he was. I never really watched Seaquest, although
i did enjoy the Alexander Temple episode.
> Subject: Re: JONATHAN BRANDIS IS DEAD. He's dead Jim.
> From: shat...@aol.com (Shatanzo)
> Newsgroups: alt.horror
>
>>Subject: Re: JONATHAN BRANDIS IS DEAD. He's dead Jim.
>>From: "al"
>
> I may be too old but who is Jonathan Brandis?
Nobody. Seriously.
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but also, there's a negative side
That is vicious. Especially since the person was 27 and apparently came to
the same conclusion on his own and committed suicide. You know, remarks like
yours deserve retribution from the un-dead. If Jonathan is around in spirit,
perhaps because he is a damned soul as a result of his suicide he will visit
some well-deserved horror on you. Perhaps he can share the anguish he must
have felt as he decided to hang himself, and perhaps you can live the last
moments of his life as he did, while his soul envelops your body and mind as
you sleep. Perhaps it is true that if you die in your dreams you die in
reality; and perhaps JB can take you with him...
It's not nice to degrade a tormented soul in the days after he took his own
life.
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> Nobody. Seriously.
Jesus, you're in a bitter and twisted mood today, aren't you?
Guy makes a flying start as a child star, hits a professional wall
when he reaches adulthood, and kills himself in a fit of depression.
He isn't "nobody", so stop being so fucking insensitive.
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> You know, remarks like
> yours deserve retribution from the un-dead.
Oh, Jesus Christ...
> He isn't "nobody"
He is now.
>>I may be too old but who is Jonathan Brandis?
>
>Nobody. Seriously.
What does that make you?
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not him - he's busy at weekends.
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quote of the day
'nostradamus? -sounds like a rock group to me!'
Actors/Actresses/personalities are perhaps the next step down but still
imbedded in my life experience in other ways. How can I be a film lover and
not also be aware that in addition to the illusion of character (the
actor/actress contribution), there is a real person behind the role who
invents and invests (for whatever reason) in my life experience.
From now on I'll always look as SeaQuest DSV in a different light, using the
acquired experience to re-interperate my memories in context to the real
world (where I live my real life). Minor adjustment, I'll admit ... perhaps
even inconsequential ... but real just the same.
I watched most if not all of the DSV episodes (not with awe - it was a
unsuccessful TV show on all levels IMHO). I know a bit of the answers to
the question "but who is Jonathan Brandis?". Did I really know the man?
NO. But through his role in DSV I emotionally think I do. Human nature
.... Why movies are more compelling than video games or trading internet
posts on usenet(in most cases). It's the illusion ... It's the reality
behind the illusion that puts things in perspective.
He may be nobody to you. You may have never watched a single episode of DSV
or any of his acting roles. That's O.K. Your life experience will always
be different than mine. But don't be so singleminded that you dismiss the
interests, memories and experiences of others just because you don't have
them.
WELL SAID! I saw him in some of his other roles mostly, and he seemed like a
very nice person, especially compared to many of the "young actors" that
show up on the WB and FOX TV shows. The saying is that "Only the Good die
young." and JB was never involved in any public scandal, arrest, drug-rehab,
etc. and as far as I know he was what he appeared to be and as I was
positively touched by his few acting appearances. I mourn (indirectly, as a
cinema fan) for a person who may have under-estimated the value of his own
life. The irony of JB's death, is that he probably had at least a few
dedicated fans (I was not one) who would have probably tried their best to
help him, get him counseling, lend him money, etc. Did JB know his own fans
or have any strong ties to anyone who gave him emotional support and love?
Did someone close hurt him or push him over the edge?
John Dunne once wrote: "Ask not for whom the bell tolls, it tolls for thee"
and so I look at the death of a person who died too young, and I wish his
story had a better ending.
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> Subject: Re: JONATHAN BRANDIS IS DEAD. He's dead Jim.
> From: "John Donaldson" <jwd...@rcn.com>
> Newsgroups: alt.horror
>
>
> "Robert Lee" wrote
>> (Shatanzo) wrote
>> >>Subject: Re: JONATHAN BRANDIS IS DEAD. He's dead Jim.
>> >>From: "al"
>> >
>> > I may be too old but who is Jonathan Brandis?
>>
>> Nobody. Seriously.
>>
> You may have never watched a single episode of DSV
>or any of his acting roles...but don't be so singleminded that you
>dismiss the interests, memories and experiences of others just because
>you don't have them.
Oh good fucking god. We're talking about the b-list ripoff of Wesley
Crusher here, from a short-lived undersea ripoff of the sequel series to
Star Trek. If the actual Wil Wheaton had died, the same people pissing
themselves because I dared call the 9,754,683,287th brightest star in the
entertainment universe a "nobody" would be making much crueler jokes.
Wheaton, I will add, seems to have shouldered the unending and rather
puzzling scorn of genre dorks and the total loss of his childhood movie
and TV career* with good humor and come out okay.
And FWIW, I have seen several of Brandis' roles, as it turns out. He just
didn't make any impression because really, he never did anything
impressive. Except committing suicide, of course. That's always
impressive, and shows everybody how deep and hurting you were, and boy
are they all sorry, now that you're gone.
You know what? Anybody who struggles with suicidal impulses, oh...ten
percent as much as I do in a given month and wants to make that claim
publicly can jump on me about this. Otherwise, I deal with it how I deal
with it, and one of the ways is not being very sympathetic toward
suicide, especially on the part of pathetic sots like Brandis.
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*Several shades more noteworthy than Brandis', BTW, even on the "early
career Stephen King movie" count--and at that, jeez, Brandis really *was*
the b-list Wil Wheaton, more than I considered when starting this post.
Wheaton started as a juvenile King stand-in in one of the best theatrical
films, Brandis as basically the same part in one of the interchangably
mediocre TV miniseries.
Thanks.
> life. The irony of JB's death, is that he probably had at least a few
> dedicated fans (I was not one) who would have probably tried their best to
> help him, get him counseling, lend him money, etc. Did JB know his own
fans
> or have any strong ties to anyone who gave him emotional support and love?
unknown? He did have a fan club. There are still websites dedicated to him
(see links on .... http://www.sneksoog.demon.nl/jona-e.htm although some
are missing (how recently I don't know). He seemed to do interviews.
The news stories did mention a friend called the ambulance.
Plenty of threads over at alt.obituary
Kid stars date back to the Franklin Kid Pictures and Jackie Coogan in the
silent era. The Little Rascals, Mickey Rooney, Robert Blake, and Bobby
Breen carry the tradition up through the 40's.
Doesn't mean they are not human beings.....
>If the actual Wil Wheaton had died, the same people pissing
> themselves because I dared call the 9,754,683,287th brightest star in the
> entertainment universe a "nobody" would be making much crueler jokes.
Have you been "seen" by so many people internationally? Have you ever
written a TV episode? Ever even act in a Motion Picture? Tough life!!!
Wish you all the success in the world Robert, but part of the price of fame
is those jokes. But the jokes also prove my point .. nobody jokes unless
they think someone will "get" the joke. Cruel or just ironic ... they show
someone recognizes the name.
>
> Wheaton, I will add, seems to have shouldered the unending and rather
> puzzling scorn of genre dorks and the total loss of his childhood movie
> and TV career* with good humor and come out okay.
But not all "child actors" do.
>
> And FWIW, I have seen several of Brandis' roles, as it turns out. He just
> didn't make any impression because really, he never did anything
> impressive. Except committing suicide, of course. That's always
> impressive, and shows everybody how deep and hurting you were, and boy
> are they all sorry, now that you're gone.
And your psychiatrist tells you depression is just a way of showing off?
Being noticed? Sorry dude ... if that's what you are being told, you need a
second opinion...
>
> You know what? Anybody who struggles with suicidal impulses, oh...ten
> percent as much as I do in a given month and wants to make that claim
> publicly can jump on me about this. Otherwise, I deal with it how I deal
> with it, and one of the ways is not being very sympathetic toward
> suicide, especially on the part of pathetic sots like Brandis.
Anyone who has to depend on suicidal tendencies to resolve any problem has
my sympathy ... not in my nature to even think of suicide. I doubt anyone
would make any self-depreciating claim as much as you do
>
> <snip>even on the "early
> career Stephen King movie" count--and at that, jeez, Brandis really *was*
> the b-list Wil Wheaton, more than I considered when starting this post.
> Wheaton started as a juvenile King stand-in in one of the best theatrical
> films, Brandis as basically the same part in one of the interchangably
> mediocre TV miniseries.
>
A role is a role ... if you ain't a player..... Besides you can stretch
that logic back to Billy Mumy which Wheaton was the "B-list" version of.
> but also, there's a negative side
Like he's still dead, even as we speak.........
>
>And FWIW, I have seen several of Brandis' roles, as it turns out. He just
>didn't make any impression because really, he never did anything
>impressive. Except committing suicide, of course. That's always
>impressive, and shows everybody how deep and hurting you were, and boy
>are they all sorry, now that you're gone.
>
>You know what? Anybody who struggles with suicidal impulses, oh...ten
>percent as much as I do in a given month and wants to make that claim
>publicly can jump on me about this. Otherwise, I deal with it how I deal
>with it, and one of the ways is not being very sympathetic toward
>suicide, especially on the part of pathetic sots like Brandis.
Fom the reports that I have heard, it appears that no one told the poor guy
that Accutane could cause depression. His career wasn't so bad. He was
working.
He made no impact on my life whatsoever while he was alive. I didn't even
know what he looked like.
And I do understand that you have no sympathy for losers who take the easy
way out. But it appears that Brandis might have been something of a victim.
--
Hand me down my soup and fish
I am gonna get my wish.
You're just cruel! Jesus get a fucking life or even better - attempt
suicide by hanging yourself and then don't die instantly - get rushed
to the hospital, suffer for a while and die the next day! He was an
only child - at least show some compassion for his poor parents!! Who
will spend the rest of their lives wondering if there was something
that they could've done to prevent it and will NEVER be able to get
completely over it!
Damn your an insensitive prick aren't ya???
ScreamFn99
You're fucking sick! Suicide is impressive? Boy you need help! I've
been where Brandis was - it's not fun, it's not about "let's show em
all and fuck you", it's about thinking you're not good enough and
what's the use and maybe everyone would be happier if I weren't here!
You're so fucking ignorant it's pathetic and you need some serious
counseling!!!
> You know what? Anybody who struggles with suicidal impulses, oh...ten
> percent as much as I do in a given month and wants to make that claim
> publicly can jump on me about this. Otherwise, I deal with it how I deal
> with it, and one of the ways is not being very sympathetic toward
> suicide, especially on the part of pathetic sots like Brandis.
See above asshole! I - on the other hand - am sypathetic. I think it's
a chicken shit way out of a bad situation, however I feel bad for
someone who didn't recognize the signs soon enough to get help.
> --
> --Robert
>
> *Several shades more noteworthy than Brandis', BTW, even on the "early
> career Stephen King movie" count--and at that, jeez, Brandis really *was*
> the b-list Wil Wheaton, more than I considered when starting this post.
> Wheaton started as a juvenile King stand-in in one of the best theatrical
> films, Brandis as basically the same part in one of the interchangably
> mediocre TV miniseries.
Well he also had some notible movie roles, as well. "Ladybugs" &
"Sidekicks". I'm sorry, but I do think that he had a lot of talent,
too bad that he didn't pursue other avenues with it. Like stage acting
or something.
ScreamFn99
> Jesus get a fucking life
Should I even comment on how rich that is, coming from somebody obsessed
with a faded, extremely minor child actor?
>but also, there's a negative side
They are still dead at the end of the day.
> You really think that your personal inconveniences in your
> seemingly self-centered life are anywhere near as tragic as being F*CKING
> dead?
Nope. So who died, here, anyway?
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> Suicide it seems.
>
> Lot of threads on alt.obituary
>
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>
> JONATHAN BRANDIS Died Nov. 12, 2003
>
> Actor Jonathan Brandis died of at age 27. He was found at home by
> friends. Results of an autopsy are pending, although the L.A. County
> Coroner's office has said it may have been a suicide. A final ruling
> is expected after more tests are run. Mr. Brandis delivered a standout
> performance in the Stephen King mini-series "It." Brandis played
> ?stuttering Bill' as a child. Richard Thomas played the character as
> an adult. Mr. Brandis was nominated for five Young Artist Awards,
> winning Best Youth Actor Leading Role in a Television Series for his
> work on the TV series "Seaquest." Mr. Brandis took over Barret
> Oliver's role as Bastian in the sequel to "The Never Ending Story."
> "The Never Ending Story: II" was Mr. Brandis first leading role. He
> had appeared in a number of films before that including "Fatal
> Attraction," "Stepfather II" and "Ghost Dad." Mr. Brandis' other
> credits include "Ladybugs," "Sidekicks," "Outside Providence," "Hart's
> War" and "The Year That Trembled." In addition to his many acting
> roles on TV and in film, Mr. Brandis wrote an episode for the TV
> series "Seaquest." Prayers of comfort for his family and friends.
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>
> From: Kent (ke...@spamfreedeadoraliveinfo.com)
> Subject: Jonathan Brandis AP story
> This is the only article in this thread
> View: Original Format
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> Date: 2003-11-20 21:43:30 PST
>
>
> Jonathan Brandis finally makes the AP with a multi-paragraph story.
>
> http://www.bayarea.com/mld/mercurynews/news/local/7313962.htm
>
> Television and film actor Jonathan Brandis dead at age 27
> Associated Press
>
> LOS ANGELES - Jonathan Brandis, who from an early age appeared
> in a
> string of roles on television, commercials and film, including two
> seasons
> on Steven Spielberg's "SeaQuest DSV," has died. He was 27.
>
> The county coroner's office is investigating the Nov. 12 death,
> which
> was reported by the Los Angeles Police Department as a possible
> suicide,
> said Lt. Ed Winter of the coroner's Investigations Bureau.
>
> The coroner performed an autopsy but the cause of death will not
> be
> announced until the results of blood and toxicology tests are
> returned.
>
> "We're not assuming it's just a suicide," Winter said.
>
> The investigation could take as long as four to six weeks.
>
> Police said a friend of Brandis called 911 from the actor's
> apartment
> just before midnight on Nov. 11 to report Brandis had attempted
> suicide.
> Paramedics transported Brandis to Cedars-Sinai Medical Center, but he
> died
> the next day, police Detective Gene Parshall said.
>
> The office of Brandis' agent at Innovative Artists refused to
> comment
> on the actor's death.
>
> Brandis started his career in commercials and on television,
> landing a
> recurring role on the soap "One Life to Live" at age six. After moving
> with
> his family to Los Angeles at age nine, he made guest appearances on
> such
> shows as "L.A. Law," "Who's the Boss?" and "Murder, She Wrote."
>
> Film credits included the starring role in 1991's "The
> Neverending
> Story 2: The Next Chapter," the Rodney Dangerfield comedy "Ladybugs,"
> and
> the martial arts comedy "Sidekicks" with Chuck Norris."
>
> Brandis also starred as crew member Lucas Wolenczek in the
> underwater
> sci-fi series "SeaQuest DSV," a role that garnered him a Young Artists
>
>"Jennifer" wrote
>> Jonathan hung him self by rope the hallway of his home! Were where his
>> family friends, they put of anybody should have known he was in
>> danger? I'll bet Paul Perterson gonna to the talk show rounds on this
>> one. And were the hell was he , Mr. saves child stars?
Yeah, he probably should have been randomly kicking down doors of
child stars and shouting "DON'T HANG YOURSELF!" Better safe than
sorry.
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