La Habitación De Fermat......
ReVulse
Four mathematicians are invited to a remote location to solve an enigma,
but when they arrive, they are locked in a room and find their lives
depend on correctly solving a series of logic puzzles. Perhaps the
biggest puzzle is, why them?
It's an ok film - it has a few nice twists, but the ending is
disappointing and the overall concept doesn't really hold up to scrutiny.
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The White Lady
<ReV...@psychaoticREMOVETHIS.fsnet.co.uk> wrote:
>
>Four mathematicians are invited to a remote location to solve an enigma,
>but when they arrive, they are locked in a room and find their lives
>depend on correctly solving a series of logic puzzles. Perhaps the
>biggest puzzle is, why them?
>
>It's an ok film - it has a few nice twists, but the ending is
>disappointing and the overall concept doesn't really hold up to scrutiny.
Says a SAW fan.
The White Lady
wrote:
ooh, I've just got it in this morning's post from Lovefilm!
The White Lady
<ReV...@psychaoticREMOVETHIS.fsnet.co.uk> wrote:
>
>Four mathematicians are invited to a remote location to solve an enigma,
>but when they arrive, they are locked in a room and find their lives
>depend on correctly solving a series of logic puzzles. Perhaps the
>biggest puzzle is, why them?
>
>It's an ok film - it has a few nice twists, but the ending is
>disappointing and the overall concept doesn't really hold up to scrutiny.
I spent most of the time puzzling about the four hydraulic presses
pushing on each of the four walls of the room to shrink it. I'm no
enigineer but that's s impossible, isn't it? I've been trying with
four pencils all morning. Is it me?
ReVulse
I wondered about that myself (part of my problem with the overall
concept). There is a scene where one of the characters draws his
interpretation of the layout. The layout he draws would work, but only if
the presses could move in two directions at the same time. The problem
would be that the walls would be moving sideways as they closed in, but
that effect would probably be masked by the shrinking dimensions anyway.
The White Lady
<ReV...@psychaoticREMOVETHIS.fsnet.co.uk> wrote:
>On Sun, 29 Nov 2009 10:37:59 +0000, The White Lady wrote:
>
>> On 10 Nov 2009 23:32:34 GMT, ReVulse
>> <ReV...@psychaoticREMOVETHIS.fsnet.co.uk> wrote:
>>
>>
>>>Four mathematicians are invited to a remote location to solve an enigma,
>>>but when they arrive, they are locked in a room and find their lives
>>>depend on correctly solving a series of logic puzzles. Perhaps the
>>>biggest puzzle is, why them?
>>>
>>>It's an ok film - it has a few nice twists, but the ending is
>>>disappointing and the overall concept doesn't really hold up to
>>>scrutiny.
>>
>>
>> I spent most of the time puzzling about the four hydraulic presses
>> pushing on each of the four walls of the room to shrink it. I'm no
>> enigineer but that's s impossible, isn't it? I've been trying with four
>> pencils all morning. Is it me?
>
>I wondered about that myself (part of my problem with the overall
>concept). There is a scene where one of the characters draws his
>interpretation of the layout. The layout he draws would work, but only if
>the presses could move in two directions at the same time. The problem
>would be that the walls would be moving sideways as they closed in, but
>that effect would probably be masked by the shrinking dimensions anyway.
It would be a very elaborate and wasteful way of going about it. I
thought this problem was going to be at the centre of a twist. Still,
it was worth watching.
Jared
> It would be a very elaborate and wasteful way of going about it...
Ha! And you have a go at me for complaining about improbable film
logic. The crazy genius who kidnaps a load of mathematicians over-
engineers his wall press? The simplest solution would be to tether
the walls at right angles then pull on their ends, I reckon.
> I thought this problem was going to be at the centre of a twist. Still,
> it was worth watching.
I think the biggest problem, as always with this sort of film because
everybody is so scared of maths, is that the four finest mathemicians
in Spain are reduced to solving riddles about foxes, chickens and
grain.
Have to confess to almost getting, then dismissing my solution to the
first problem, due to a failure to grasp that Spaniards don't actually
count in English.
Lesmond
I've been trying with
>four pencils all morning.
Mr. White Lady has three friends?
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The White Lady
wrote:
The puzzles weren't even up to Professor Layton and Pandoras Box
standard. Come to think of it, I nigelled to US version, called the
'Diabolical box'. It might have had easier puzzles for them daft
seppos.
ReVulse
> I think the biggest problem, as always with this sort of film because
> everybody is so scared of maths, is that the four finest mathemicians in
> Spain are reduced to solving riddles about foxes, chickens and grain.
Admittedly, the puzzles were a bit simplistic, but I don't think people
are scared of maths; they're bored rigid by it.
For example, how exciting does this sound?:
"Zeta functions have been a powerful tool in mathematics over the last
two centuries. This book considers a new class of non-commutative zeta
functions which encode the structure of the subgroup lattice in infinite
groups. The book explores the analytic behaviour of these functions
together with an investigation of functional equations. Many important
examples of zeta functions are calculated and recorded providing an
important data base of explicit examples and methods for calculation."
Jared
wrote:
>
> Admittedly, the puzzles were a bit simplistic, but I don't think people
> are scared of maths; they're bored rigid by it.
"ln this context, Leonardo's letter to the duke Ludovico Sforza in
which he boasts
extensively about his numerous talents and the services he can
deliver, is not a list of radically
separate activities and professional titles, but facets of a broad
base of theoretical and practical
expertise.? Rossi states: "In the early years of the [16th] century,
sculptors and architects in
Florence were members of the minor guild of masons and carpenters
while painters were classed
as associates of the major guild of doctors and druggists, together
with subordinate house painters
and color grinders."
This is pretty dull but millions of people still want to go and see
films about it.
deadrodentyping
I've got wood. Tit count?
Jared
One. Tom Hanks. Thank you very much - I'm here all week,
deadrodentyping
Bastard--not only stealing my joke that I stole from MST3K, but then
trying to put a Tom Hanks topless image into my brain.
Avoid normal situations.
> On Sun, 29 Nov 2009 14:40:07 -0800, Jared wrote:
> > I think the biggest problem, as always with this sort of film because
> > everybody is so scared of maths, is that the four finest mathemicians in
> > Spain are reduced to solving riddles about foxes, chickens and grain.
> Admittedly, the puzzles were a bit simplistic, but I don't think people
> are scared of maths; they're bored rigid by it.
You mean *normal* people are bored rigid by it.
--
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"It is good morning exercise for a research scientist to discard a pet
hypothesis every day before breakfast. It keeps him young."
-- Konrad Lorenz
Avoid normal situations.
> On Dec 3, 3:14??am, deadrodentyping <deadrodentyp...@gmail.com> wrote:
> I'm here all week,
I doubt that.