Seal opts for downgrade... (;xD)
UnaSeal
The final out-come in the battle between technology and the infamous UnaSeal??
Technology won! If Mr. 'Puter doesn't want to enjoy a fabulous growth
potential, why force it on him? :) Besides...look at the dinero I've saved!
:)
Warm, wet seal nuzzles to all who sent me sympathy and advice! (:xD) This
seal's back on-line, and things are going "swimmingly..." :)
Jubulent Orps,
<>< Una <><
***Read UnaSeal's pattented _Downgrading For Dummies_ manifesto! It's sure to
be a "bomb" at a store near you. ;)
Ron Orr (& Tirran, sometimes)
UnaSeal <abo...@terravirtua.com> advertised:
> ***Read UnaSeal's patented _Downgrading For Dummies_ manifesto! It's sure to
> be a "bomb" at a store near you. ;)
Naw, you got the right idea. Take it from me; old technology is
the best. Why, my li'l woof still has a 68030 Mac! My LC is four years
old! We haven't done any memory upgrades in a year!
I'm beginning to feel positively medieval...
Ron
tempted by a Quadra 840AV
UnaSeal
AH! An "old technology" fan. :) Fantastic! Even though you're a Mac user,
maybe you can help me out here...
When I tried to reinstall Win '95 on my machine, I typed in "run," but the
strangest thing happend...What exactly does it mean when it says, "Press play
on tape"??? ;) <Chuckles> Okay, okay...so maybe I have a little newer
machine than that, but I still miss playing "Snac Man" on my Vic 20. :)
<......................M..............M............
.
.
M
.
.........................................................
The above is a poor attempt to simulate SnacMan
graphics...Oh, well...back to AdventureLand! <C64-with less memory than my
current Radio Shack P.I.M..> :)
<>< Una <><
Who always thought the Bear was the brightest character on the AdventureLand
cartridge! :) He wouldn't let you scam him for nuthin'. :)
P.S.-- Does a lava lamp qualify as technology at all, I wonder? Or is it just
a plug-in nature scene? :)
Ron Orr (& Tirran, sometimes)
UnaSeal <abo...@terravirtua.com> wrote:
> AH! An "old technology" fan. :) Fantastic! Even though you're a Mac user,
> maybe you can help me out here...
>
> When I tried to reinstall Win '95 on my machine, I typed in "run," but the
> strangest thing happend...What exactly does it mean when it says, "Press play
> on tape"??? ;)
Come to think of it, why _didn't_ they release Win95 on cassette
tape? Then you could run it on a Sinclair Z80!
>... <Chuckles> Okay, okay...so maybe I have a little newer
> machine than that, but I still miss playing "Snac Man" on my Vic 20. :)
Elitist! I just picked up a nearly-new Commodore CBM model 8502;
just needs a thorough cleaning. And it takes the tape drive from the
VIC-20, too! (_That_ $5 investment turns out to have been worthwhile
after all!)
> P.S.-- Does a lava lamp qualify as technology at all, I wonder? Or is it just
> a plug-in nature scene? :)
Lava lamps, plasma globes, lightning balls...no, they're not
technology, they're decorating. _Entirely_ different concepts!
Us
UnaSeal
In article <1996090621...@nor145.vianet.on.ca>, griz...@vianet.on.ca (Ron Orr (& Tirran, sometimes)) wrote:
>UnaSeal <abo...@terravirtua.com> wrote:
>
>> AH! An "old technology" fan. :) Fantastic! Even though you're a Mac user,
>> maybe you can help me out here...
>>
>> When I tried to reinstall Win '95 on my machine, I typed in "run," but the
>> strangest thing happend...What exactly does it mean when it says, "Press play
>> on tape"??? ;)
>
> Come to think of it, why _didn't_ they release Win95 on cassette
>tape? Then you could run it on a Sinclair Z80!
Hmmmm....Well, I suppose that Microsoft didn't want to over extend its
capabilities right off the bat. They only had three years to de-bug Win '95,
and that wasn't enough time for their research team to figure out what a
cassette tape was and how it functions... ;)
>>... <Chuckles> Okay, okay...so maybe I have a little newer
>> machine than that, but I still miss playing "Snac Man" on my Vic 20. :)
>
> Elitist! I just picked up a nearly-new Commodore CBM model 8502;
>just needs a thorough cleaning. And it takes the tape drive from the
>VIC-20, too! (_That_ $5 investment turns out to have been worthwhile
>after all!)
<chuckles> So the current going price is a whole 5 bucks, now? :)
My dad's a collecter of the "Technology of the Ancients," so I'll have to
tell him to peddle his wares at the next Saturaday sale...He could make a cool
$30, easily. :D The both of you! Shaaaame! :) No WONDER they called the
Commodore fan 'zine, "DieHard" :) Ack! Contemplating it all is making me
light-headed...too bad Windoz doesn't have a plug-and-play "Esmirelda the
therapist" built in. :(
>> P.S.-- Does a lava lamp qualify as technology at all, I wonder? Or is it
> just
>> a plug-in nature scene? :)
>
> Lava lamps, plasma globes, lightning balls...no, they're not
>technology, they're decorating. _Entirely_ different concepts!
NOW I'm wondering what category "The Clapper" falls into. :)
>Us
"THEM"
;)
Ron Orr (& Tirran, sometimes)
UnaSeal <abo...@terravirtua.com> sayeth:
> griz...@vianet.on.ca (Ron Orr (& Tirran, sometimes)) wrote:
> >
> > Come to think of it, why _didn't_ they release Win95 on cassette
> >tape? Then you could run it on a Sinclair Z80!
>
> Hmmmm....Well, I suppose that Microsoft didn't want to over extend its
> capabilities right off the bat. They only had three years to de-bug Win '95,
> and that wasn't enough time for their research team to figure out what a
> cassette tape was and how it functions... ;)
<g> It's pretty clear they didn't have much of an idea about how
a PC functions either, eh?
> > Elitist! I just picked up a nearly-new Commodore CBM model 8502;
> >just needs a thorough cleaning. And it takes the tape drive from the
> >VIC-20, too! (_That_ $5 investment turns out to have been worthwhile
> >after all!)
>
> <chuckles> So the current going price is a whole 5 bucks, now? :)
Yeah, in Northern Ontario, anyway.
Entire C64's and Apple ][c's run around $200...might be useful
purchases, as our ][e developed keyboard trouble tonight, annoying the
hell out of our oldest daughter. (She wants to learn AppleDOS 3.3...at
age 6...)
> My dad's a collecter of the "Technology of the Ancients," so I'll have to
> tell him to peddle his wares at the next Saturaday sale...He could make a cool
> $30, easily.
What? And deprive himself of the joy of running a Real Computer?
(You know, the kind where you turn it on and it just blinks at you...)
> ... Ack! Contemplating it all is making me
> light-headed...too bad Windoz doesn't have a plug-and-play "Esmirelda the
> therapist" built in. :(
Been looking for that one for a long time. Last time I played
with one of those programs was back around 1982, when York University
had it running on University of Toronto's VAX PDP10, the one that's now
in the 'computer museum' at the Ontario Science Centre. Along with the
IBM mainframe that proceeded it, which plays 6 simultaneous games of
tic-tac-toe. And which I've beaten several times, BTW.
> >> P.S.-- Does a lava lamp qualify as technology at all, I wonder? Or is it
> > just a plug-in nature scene? :)
> >
> > Lava lamps, plasma globes, lightning balls...no, they're not
> >technology, they're decorating. _Entirely_ different concepts!
>
> NOW I'm wondering what category "The Clapper" falls into. :)
Umm...entertainment?
> >Us
>
> "THEM"
Hey, we resemble that remark!
yes, this one's from both of us too!
UnaSeal
In article <199609080...@nor104.vianet.on.ca>, griz...@vianet.on.ca (Ron Orr (& Tirran, sometimes)) wrote:
>UnaSeal <abo...@terravirtua.com> sayeth:
>
>> griz...@vianet.on.ca (Ron Orr (& Tirran, sometimes)) wrote:
>> >
>
> <g> It's pretty clear they didn't have much of an idea about how
>a PC functions either, eh?
<LOL> High flipper, bro and sis! Slap me some paw on that one. <G>
>> > Elitist! I just picked up a nearly-new Commodore CBM model 8502;
>> >just needs a thorough cleaning. And it takes the tape drive from the
>> >VIC-20, too! (_That_ $5 investment turns out to have been worthwhile
>> >after all!)
>>
>> <chuckles> So the current going price is a whole 5 bucks, now? :)
>
> Yeah, in Northern Ontario, anyway.
> Entire C64's and Apple ][c's run around $200...might be useful
>purchases, as our ][e developed keyboard trouble tonight, annoying the
>hell out of our oldest daughter. (She wants to learn AppleDOS 3.3...at
>age 6...)
<<Shudders>> A programer in the making! :) I know where this is leading...A
whole decade from now, she'll stop pumping out Shareware and go for the
gusto...She'll become a C.E.O. of her own corpoaration just to put herself
through college. <siiiigh> I miss the good old days when kids still didn't
know what they wanted to be when they grew up even after their Bachelor's
degree. :)
>
> What? And deprive himself of the joy of running a Real Computer?
>(You know, the kind where you turn it on and it just blinks at you...)
<chuckles> "real men work in Basic." ;)
>> ... Ack! Contemplating it all is making me
>> light-headed...too bad Windoz doesn't have a plug-and-play "Esmirelda the
>> therapist" built in. :(
>
> Been looking for that one for a long time.
Er...actually, I may be able to scrounge up a copy of Esmirelda for you. :)
>>
>> NOW I'm wondering what category "The Clapper" falls into. :)
>
> Umm...entertainment?
<LOL> The family that claps together, stays together! Orp, orp, orp! <Claps
fins>
>> >Us
>>
>> "THEM"
>
> Hey, we resemble that remark!
<Chuckles> EVERYONE blames EVERYTHING on "THEM." I wonder why? Just WHAT is
it you guys have done? ;)
Ben Goodridge
>
> > AH! An "old technology" fan. :) Fantastic! Even though you're a Mac user,
> > maybe you can help me out here...
(A long discussion clipped)
I got you all whipped. My collection of fine techno-junk includes three
Apple IIe computers, one 128k, one 64k, an elderly Commodore 32,
a TRS-80 with tape-drive, a WYSE700 286pc CAD-Cam station, and the
computer I actually use is a Kenitec 386pc with 3M of ram and a 329
Mb hard drive. Bad enough my souvenirs of a bygone and best-forgotten
age still litter my apartment, but the computer I actually use is
nothing to write home to Alpha about...
I did my initial computer training on a PDP-6, and I have a friend
with a decrepit PDP-8 mini. Somewhere in this apartment are drive
cards and jump leads to most of this crap. At work I use an old
Mac Plus, which I understand is about one step up from the IIe.
A while ago, I actually negotiated to buy a IIc and a 286 laptop.
I was trained for 8088 work as well.
Think it's time I marched boldly into the '80's?
Ben Goodridge
bgoo...@maine.maine.edu
http://maine.maine.edu/~bgoodr61
Who still knows what Syntax Error means, and can program in BASIC.
UnaSeal
>Think it's time I marched boldly into the '80's?
Sorry, I could help noticing this, and maybe I'm just seeing things here that
aren't really here, but could it be that we're all incurable geeks? ;)
>Ben Goodridge
>Who still knows what Syntax Error means, and can program in BASIC.
Nyah, nyah, "Mr. Hotshot," so do I! So do I!
<>< UNA <><
Who can't believe she's not only participating in, but also STARTED the
"Battle of the Geeks," *blush*
MegaDog the Nettweiler
In article <50ve98$t4_...@equine.onramp.net>, UnaSeal (abo...@terravirtua.com) writes:
>In article <199609080...@nor104.vianet.on.ca>, griz...@vianet.on.ca (Ron Orr (& Tirran, sometimes)) wrote:
>> What? And deprive himself of the joy of running a Real Computer?
>>(You know, the kind where you turn it on and it just blinks at you...)
>
><chuckles> "real men work in Basic." ;)
Aaargh no!
*REAL* men program at a *hardware* level, soldering diodes to
plugboards to create boot-ROMS.....
Basic? **BASIC** We do'nt need no steenkin' BASIC!
!Raised Tails! -:MegaDog:-
"Are you pondering what I'm pondering?"
Ron Orr (& Tirran, sometimes)
UnaSeal <abo...@terravirtua.com> wrote:
> In article <199609080...@nor104.vianet.on.ca>,
> griz...@vianet.on.ca (Ron Orr (& Tirran, sometimes)) wrote:
>
> > Entire C64's and Apple ][c's run around $200...might be useful
> >purchases, as our ][e developed keyboard trouble tonight, annoying the
> >hell out of our oldest daughter. (She wants to learn AppleDOS 3.3...at
> >age 6...)
>
> <<Shudders>> A programer in the making! :) I know where this is
> leading...A whole decade from now, she'll stop pumping out Shareware and
> go for the gusto...She'll become a C.E.O. of her own corpoaration just to
> put herself through college.
Given the current state of the local job market...well, maybe we
oughta encourage her?
I've mentioned here before about Peggy & Cathy displaying
certain wereish trats already; the idea of a were in charge of one of
Microsoft's competitors...
> <siiiigh> I miss the good old days when kids still didn't know what they
> wanted to be when they grew up even after their Bachelor's degree. :)
Boy, can I identify with _that._
> <chuckles> "real men work in Basic." ;)
Basic? Real men work in _machine language!_
> >> ... Ack! Contemplating it all is making me light-headed...too bad
> >> Windoz doesn't have a plug-and-play "Esmirelda the therapist" built in.
> >> :(
> >
> > Been looking for that one for a long time.
>
> Er...actually, I may be able to scrounge up a copy of Esmirelda for you.
>:)
Ooh, yummy! Thank you much!
> >> NOW I'm wondering what category "The Clapper" falls into. :)
> >
> > Umm...entertainment?
>
> <LOL> The family that claps together, stays together! Orp, orp, orp!
> <Claps fins>
OK, OK...now I _know_ I left that beach ball around here
somewhere.
> >> >Us
> >>
> >> "THEM"
> >
> > Hey, we resemble that remark!
>
> <Chuckles> EVERYONE blames EVERYTHING on "THEM." I wonder why? Just
> WHAT is it you guys have done? ;)
Don't look at _me._ Just because I wear my Other Side on the
outside a lot of the time doesn't mean I'm responsible for all the
world's problems!
Jeez, you get a reputation for eating people and the next thing
you know, everybody's blaming you for stuff...
Us
no, the _other_ us
Christopher Eric Hughes
UnaSeal (abo...@terravirtua.com) wrote:
: >Think it's time I marched boldly into the '80's?
80's? With that list, you might want to start with the 70s and slowly
progress forward. You know.. get an AT, get used to it. Maybe acquire
a PCjr somewhere, familiarise yourself with modern equipment. :)
: Sorry, I could help noticing this, and maybe I'm just seeing things here that
: aren't really here, but could it be that we're all incurable geeks? ;)
Somewhere around here I have a copy of the Geek Code (plus the Bear and
Smurf Codes, which are less relevant to this thread). If I can find it,
does anyone want it? :) I mean, if we're going to be geeks, we might as
well proudly display that fact. :)
: >Who still knows what Syntax Error means, and can program in BASIC.
: Nyah, nyah, "Mr. Hotshot," so do I! So do I!
I can.. it's just a question of whether or not I will. I've still got my
BASIC cartridge for my atari 400, but I don't have GWbasic for DOS any
more (or if I do, I don't know where it is).
--
In the name of the best within us, A is A
Christopher Eric Hughes Either-Or
hug...@cs.unt.edu Non-Contradiction
"By the essence and nature of existence, contradictions cannot exist.
If you find one, check your premises; you'll find that one of them is
wrong." Hugh Akston, Professor of Philosophy, Patrick Henry Univ.
UnaSeal
In article <199609090...@nor104.vianet.on.ca>, griz...@vianet.on.ca (Ron Orr (& Tirran, sometimes)) wrote:
>UnaSeal <abo...@terravirtua.com> wrote:
> Given the current state of the local job market...well, maybe we
>oughta encourage her?
Hmmm...true.
> I've mentioned here before about Peggy & Cathy displaying
>certain wereish trats already; the idea of a were in charge of one of
>Microsoft's competitors...
Heeeeeeeeey! Vive le competition! :)
>> <siiiigh> I miss the good old days when kids still didn't know what they
>> wanted to be when they grew up even after their Bachelor's degree. :)
>
> Boy, can I identify with _that._
Unfortunately, so can most folks. :)
Interviewer: A very impressive resumee, I must say! It says here that you
have a phd. in Interdisciplinary Studies. Hmmmmm...that's interesting...What
is it, exactly, that you've devoted your life's studies to?
Interviewee: Ummmmm....<Unintelligible mumble> <shrugs>
Interviewer: Well just tell me, then, what kind of graduate work you did.
Interviewee: Ummmmmm....<Unintelligible mumble> <shrugs> <Stares at hands,
and the finally...> ...i remember ALL de pwetty fwowers, yesss, indeed...i
have a widdle garden in my mind, so as i can gwow widdle tiny people and put
dem inna vase...
Interviewer: Will someone kindly get Elmer Fudd out of my office?
NEEEXXXTTT--!!
>> <chuckles> "real men work in Basic." ;)
>
> Basic? Real men work in _machine language!_
Oh, sure. <Hands a modern "Real Man" an IBM punchcard> What can you make of
this?
"Real Man": Lesse...a hat...a broach...a pteridactyl....
>> >> ... Ack! Contemplating it all is making me light-headed...too bad
>> >> Windoz doesn't have a plug-and-play "Esmirelda the therapist" built in.
>> Er...actually, I may be able to scrounge up a copy of Esmirelda for you.
> Ooh, yummy! Thank you much!
Come, come...elucidate your thoughts...
>> <LOL> The family that claps together, stays together! Orp, orp, orp!
>> <Claps fins>
>
> OK, OK...now I _know_ I left that beach ball around here
>somewhere.
S'okay...the seal has a sinusitus condition here, presently, and it wouldn't
do to go ball balancing on top of that...
> Jeez, you get a reputation for eating people and the next thing
>you know, everybody's blaming you for stuff...
<nods> True. That sounds much more along the lines of a curative messure,
rather than a problematic one...<shrugs>...de widdle people in de garden in my
mind say, "hiiiiiiiiiiiiiiigghh."
>Us
>no, the _other_ us
Signed,
Some yet unmentioned pronoun
Christopher Eric Hughes
UnaSeal (abo...@terravirtua.com) wrote:
: In article <47...@dogstar.win-uk.net>, meg...@dogstar.win-uk.net (MegaDog the Nettweiler) wrote:
: >*REAL* men program at a *hardware* level, soldering diodes to
: >plugboards to create boot-ROMS.....
: But the question NOW is, do "Real Men" use soldering irons, or do they use
: that fake red glue goop that one can't properly "unsolder" to extract
: anything?
"Real Men" use DUCT TAPE. Who needs soldering irons? :)
UnaSeal
>*REAL* men program at a *hardware* level, soldering diodes to
>plugboards to create boot-ROMS.....
But the question NOW is, do "Real Men" use soldering irons, or do they use
that fake red glue goop that one can't properly "unsolder" to extract
anything?
Second, I want to know...WHOSE reponcible for the red GOOP?
MegaDog the Nettweiler
In article <5119tp$os_...@equine.onramp.net>, UnaSeal (abo...@terravirtua.com) writes:
>In article <47...@dogstar.win-uk.net>, meg...@dogstar.win-uk.net (MegaDog the Nettweiler) wrote:
>
>>*REAL* men program at a *hardware* level, soldering diodes to
>>plugboards to create boot-ROMS.....
>
>But the question NOW is, do "Real Men" use soldering irons, or do they use
>that fake red glue goop that one can't properly "unsolder" to extract
>anything?
Hmmm... i never go anywhere without my trusty Weller soldering
station... and two irons... [a little 12-watt one for all the nasty
semiconductor stuff, and a big 50-watt job for when i'm fixing up proper
tube-based gear]
>Second, I want to know...WHOSE reponcible for the red GOOP?
Who's responsible for inventing lime jello?
Who's responsible for inflicting the Barbie-doll on the world?
Who had the bare-assed cheek to list Broccoli as a food-item?
Inquiring minds want to know...
!Raised Tails! -:MegaDog:-
"If we don't answer the phone they won't know we're not here"
MegaDog the Nettweiler
In article <5118up$8...@hermes.acs.unt.edu>, Christopher Eric Hughes (hug...@ponder.csci.unt.edu) writes:
>Somewhere around here I have a copy of the Geek Code (plus the Bear and
>Smurf Codes, which are less relevant to this thread). If I can find it,
>does anyone want it? :) I mean, if we're going to be geeks, we might as
>well proudly display that fact. :)
Which leads the Dog to begin pondering... maybe there's a place for a
Werecode? I mean, like some easy way to consolidate most of the
Werecard info into one bite-sized easy-to-digest .sig-friendly lump...
!Raised Tails! -:MegaDog:-
"Drop the cat and come out with your forepaws raised"
UnaSeal
In article <511c7t$9...@hermes.acs.unt.edu>, hug...@ponder.csci.unt.edu (Christopher Eric Hughes) wrote:
>"Real Men" use DUCT TAPE. Who needs soldering irons? :)
<LOL> The TAPE! I forgot about the TAPE! :D My father used to repair
EVERYTHING with sticky, disgusting electrical tape. I, personally prefered
duct tape as a kiddo. I recall one evening at age nine, I was preparing for
bed when I noticed my nightgown had a seem ripped out just above the left
breast, so I quickly patched the problem with a slab of duct tape and then
strolled in to tell my folks "good night." When my mother saw the wad of tape
that preserved my modesty, she bellowed out in a hearty laugh, saying, "Are
you, or are you NOT your father's daughter?"
Gee, I dunno, Ma...only YOU can answer that one! ;) Rest in peace, Mom...you
deserve it. :)
UnaSeal
In a responce to UnaSeal's ponderings,:
>>Second, I want to know...WHOSE reponcible for the red GOOP?
>
>Who's responsible for inventing lime jello?
I dunno...but it's my favorite! :)
>Who's responsible for inflicting the Barbie-doll on the world?
<shrugs> ...but as an interesting sidenote...An entrepreneur in Austrailia
produced his own answer to the "Barbie Doll" problem. He noticed how oddly
disproportionate "Barbie" was, and that she was strangely lacking any and all
hair on the leg, underarm, and groin areas, and that, for a teenager, she was
lacking a multicolored mohawk and various body-piercing and tatoo
inhancements, so he brought the world--TA-DA! "Feral Cheryl."
This was some number of months ago, and his product was actively DISCOURAGED
from distribution, but possibly such a doll still exists for interested
parties. :)
>Who had the bare-assed cheek to list Broccoli as a food-item?
I dunno, but I do know that the agriculturalist who developed this strange
cross-breed between califlower and cabbage had a grandson who composed the
background scores to zillions of James Bond flicks. The grandson, I think his
name was James Broccoli, died recently. RIP to the grandson of the father of
Broccoli. <Ick! What an INTERESTING linage, and what a genetically-altered
family "tree">
HexPhile
>
> : >Think it's time I marched boldly into the '80's?
>
> 80's? With that list, you might want to start with the 70s and slowly
> progress forward. You know.. get an AT, get used to it. Maybe acquire
> a PCjr somewhere, familiarise yourself with modern equipment. :)
>
> : Sorry, I could help noticing this, and maybe I'm just seeing things here that
> : aren't really here, but could it be that we're all incurable geeks? ;)
>
> Smurf Codes, which are less relevant to this thread). If I can find it,
> does anyone want it? :) I mean, if we're going to be geeks, we might as
> well proudly display that fact. :)
>
>
> : Nyah, nyah, "Mr. Hotshot," so do I! So do I!
>
> I can.. it's just a question of whether or not I will. I've still got my
> BASIC cartridge for my atari 400, but I don't have GWbasic for DOS any
> more (or if I do, I don't know where it is).
>
no hard drive.. I have GWbasic, and might distribute it. I also know DOS
API like the back of my hand and was getting internet access from a
VAX/VMS server until recently. I also own a Sinclair, and am thinking
about buying a Commodore. ProDOS for the AppleII is easy. Sometime, I'll
have to post the addresses for the HACKERS TEST and the NERD TEST. I am
currently trying to learn Assembler (machine code).
Just remember:
"Nahhh. Nobody'll ever need more than 640k RAM." --Bill Gates
And:
Real programmers don't eat quiche. Real programmers don't even know how
to spell quiche! Real programmers eat Twinkies and palatte scorching
Szechwan food, and drink Coke.
Real programmers don't write specs. Users should be happy that they get
any programs at all and take what they can get....
HexPhile......
Christopher Eric Hughes
MegaDog the Nettweiler (meg...@dogstar.win-uk.net) wrote:
: In article <5118up$8...@hermes.acs.unt.edu>, Christopher Eric Hughes (hug...@ponder.csci.unt.edu) writes:
: >Somewhere around here I have a copy of the Geek Code (plus the Bear and
: >Smurf Codes, which are less relevant to this thread). If I can find it,
: >does anyone want it? :) I mean, if we're going to be geeks, we might as
: >well proudly display that fact. :)
: Which leads the Dog to begin pondering... maybe there's a place for a
: Werecode? I mean, like some easy way to consolidate most of the
: Werecard info into one bite-sized easy-to-digest .sig-friendly lump...
Indeed. *grin* Mayhap I should find the originals, so that we may design
such. *grin*
UnaSeal
In article <47...@dogstar.win-uk.net>, meg...@dogstar.win-uk.net (MegaDog the Nettweiler) wrote:
>
>In article <5118up$8...@hermes.acs.unt.edu>, Christopher Eric Hughes
> (hug...@ponder.csci.unt.edu) writes:
>
>>Somewhere around here I have a copy of the Geek Code (plus the Bear and
>>Smurf Codes, which are less relevant to this thread). If I can find it,
>>does anyone want it? :) I mean, if we're going to be geeks, we might as
>>well proudly display that fact. :)
>
>Which leads the Dog to begin pondering... maybe there's a place for a
>Werecode? I mean, like some easy way to consolidate most of the
>Werecard info into one bite-sized easy-to-digest .sig-friendly lump...
Ding! Ding! Ding! You have a WINNER! I could go for the posting of the Geek,
bear, and Smurf codes, and I'm 195% behind the formation of the werecodes!
That would be FABULOUS!!! Who sez an off-topic thread can't eventually stray
back on track and even prove to be productive in the longrun? (:xD)
Happy, happy seal...Happy, happy seal...Orp! Orp! Orp!
<>< Una <><
Ron Orr (& Tirran, sometimes)
UnaSeal <abo...@terravirtua.com> wrote:
> Sorry, I could help noticing this, and maybe I'm just seeing things here that
> aren't really here, but could it be that we're all incurable geeks? ;)
Do forty-year-old computer semi-literates count? I can't locate
any of my old pocket protectors, but I do have a large collection of
white socks.
> <>< UNA <><
> Who can't believe she's not only participating in, but also STARTED the
> "Battle of the Geeks," *blush*
Be careful what thou sayest upon the Usenet, for verily, thy
words are wereish and shall return to bite thee upon the fundament...
Ron
I can't be a geek, I work with my hands
Ron Orr (& Tirran, sometimes)
Ben Goodridge <bgoo...@maine.maine.edu> bragged:
> I got you all whipped. My collection of fine techno-junk includes...
<nifty list snipped>
I was once told I have a compu-masochistic fetish for obsolete
operating systems. Ben, join the club...
> Think it's time I marched boldly into the '80's?
Don't you dare. Us Champions of Obsolete Technology have a
responsibility to the future, or the past, or something...
Ron
unstuck in time
Ron Orr (& Tirran, sometimes)
UnaSeal <abo...@terravirtua.com> wrote:
> In article <199609090...@nor104.vianet.on.ca>, griz...@vianet.on.ca
> (Ron Orr (& Tirran, sometimes)) wrote:
> > I've mentioned here before about Peggy & Cathy displaying
> >certain wereish trats already; the idea of a were in charge of one of
> >Microsoft's competitors...
>
> Heeeeeeeeey! Vive le competition! :)
The strategies are amusing to contemplate; for one thing, they'd
_insist_ that inter-corporate meetings take place during full moons.
"I'm sorry, Agent Mulder, but I have no idea what might have
happened to Mr. Gates after he proposed that merger!" <surreptitious
licking of blood from the lips>
> >> <chuckles> "real men work in Basic." ;)
> >
> > Basic? Real men work in _machine language!_
>
> Oh, sure. <Hands a modern "Real Man" an IBM punchcard> What can you make of
> this?
>
> "Real Man": Lesse...a hat...a broach...a pteridactyl....
I think I might be able to manage a paper airplane, given time.
> >> >> ... Ack! Contemplating it all is making me light-headed...too bad
> >> >> Windoz doesn't have a plug-and-play "Esmirelda the therapist" built in.
>
> >> Er...actually, I may be able to scrounge up a copy of Esmirelda for you.
>
> > Ooh, yummy! Thank you much!
>
> Come, come...elucidate your thoughts...
Well, it all started when I was a little manticore cub...
> >> <LOL> The family that claps together, stays together! Orp, orp, orp!
> >> <Claps fins>
> >
> > OK, OK...now I _know_ I left that beach ball around here
> >somewhere.
>
> S'okay...the seal has a sinusitus condition here, presently, and it wouldn't
> do to go ball balancing on top of that...
Ick...yeah, all that fluid'd just run back into your lungs,
right?
_Do_ selkies get bronchitis?
"Orp! <hawk> <spit> Orp! <hawk> <cough> <spit>"
> > Jeez, you get a reputation for eating people and the next thing
> >you know, everybody's blaming you for stuff...
>
> <nods> True. That sounds much more along the lines of a curative messure,
> rather than a problematic one...
Nah, people don't taste as good as they used to. Too many
additives in their food.
> ...<shrugs>...de widdle people in de garden in my mind say,
> "hiiiiiiiiiiiiiiigghh."
And are they? <g>
> Signed,
> Some yet unmentioned pronoun
We'll make a deal; I'll be us, and you can be you, OK? Just the
three of us...
"MPD? Hardly; the two of us are _quite_ well organized, thank you."
Ron Orr (& Tirran, sometimes)
MegaDog the Nettweiler <meg...@dogstar.win-uk.net> wrote:
>
> In article <50ve98$t4_...@equine.onramp.net>, UnaSeal
> (abo...@terravirtua.com) writes:
> >
>
> *REAL* men program at a *hardware* level, soldering diodes to
> plugboards to create boot-ROMS.....
_Soldering?_
Lemme guess, you're one of these people who does crossword
puzzles in ink, right?
> Basic? **BASIC** We do'nt need no steenkin' BASIC!
Don't knock it; it's still the only computer language I know,
and I only got half-way thru the book as it is.
Ron
"Shut up and watch the movie"
- motto of Macintosh Airlines
Parrhesia
In article <511qss$q8_...@equine.onramp.net>, abo...@terravirtua.com
(UnaSeal) writes:
TOTALLY off topic! Muhahhahha!
>>Who's responsible for inflicting the Barbie-doll on the world?
><shrugs> ...but as an interesting sidenote...An entrepreneur in
Austrailia
>produced his own answer to the "Barbie Doll" problem. He noticed how
oddly
>disproportionate "Barbie" was, and that she was strangely lacking any and
all
>hair on the leg, underarm, and groin areas, and that, for a teenager, she
was
>lacking a multicolored mohawk and various body-piercing and tatoo
>inhancements, so he brought the world--TA-DA! "Feral Cheryl."
My sister was concerned about my little cousin playing with Barbie and
getting a warped view of what a woman should be, so she bought her a
"Happy To Be Me" doll. It's a doll with realistic proportions.
Cousin still prefers Barbie, though.
-parr
Well Barbie has Happy To Be Me beat in the advertising department
MegaDog the Nettweiler
In article <511pkh$q8_...@equine.onramp.net>, UnaSeal (abo...@terravirtua.com) writes:
>In article <47...@dogstar.win-uk.net>, meg...@dogstar.win-uk.net (MegaDog the Nettweiler) wrote:
>>Which leads the Dog to begin pondering... maybe there's a place for a
>>Werecode? I mean, like some easy way to consolidate most of the
>>Werecard info into one bite-sized easy-to-digest .sig-friendly lump...
>
>Ding! Ding! Ding! You have a WINNER! I could go for the posting of the Geek,
>bear, and Smurf codes, and I'm 195% behind the formation of the werecodes!
>That would be FABULOUS!!! Who sez an off-topic thread can't eventually stray
>back on track and even prove to be productive in the longrun? (:xD)
Leave it with me... Your Humble Narrator is off-net the next couple of
days doing a lecture-tour, but hopefully by the weekend I could have
version 0.0 of the WereCode cobbled together...
!Raised Tails! -:MegaDog:-
"To light a candle is to cast a shadow"
Ray Stricklin
On Mon, 9 Sep 1996, Ron Orr (& Tirran, sometimes) wrote:
> I've mentioned here before about Peggy & Cathy displaying
> certain wereish trats already; the idea of a were in charge of one of
> Microsoft's competitors...
<grin> It's happening now...
> Basic? Real men work in _machine language!_
Real men wire-wrap VME boards.
Know what's missing in computers nowadays? _Personality_. Fat lot
of insipid crap... (sorry, personal rant)
> Us
> no, the _other_ us
I *am THEY.
http://weber.u.washington.edu/~kjaeros
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[ex libris] kjaeros | `The Savage nodded. "I ate civilization."'
raskolnikov:u.washington.edu | --Aldous Huxley
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*resist* sum multiquam
Ray Stricklin
I confess!
I am 19 years old, and I own a slide rule. And I use it. Even
though it's mostly for performance art value. (:
-r
Ray Stricklin
On 9 Sep 1996, Christopher Eric Hughes wrote:
> : >Think it's time I marched boldly into the '80's?
>
> 80's? With that list, you might want to start with the 70s and slowly
> progress forward. You know.. get an AT, get used to it. Maybe acquire
> a PCjr somewhere, familiarise yourself with modern equipment. :)
<laughing and wiping a tear> Oh, my, this sounds familiar.. my
collection of ancient cruft is building at an alarming rate! I just found,
for example, a 160k disk (notched double-sided) with PC-DOS 1.1 on it..
and near it, MS-DOS 2.2, Compaq DOS 3.31 (useful, I ended up with an old
Deskpro from an upgrade I did for a local church), PC-Geos 1.0, dBase
II, and a pile of other wonderful garbage in a box at the back of my
closet. (I finally cleared out a bunch of it so I could build a shelf in
there and shove it all back in and pretend to have it organised).
> I can.. it's just a question of whether or not I will. I've still got my
> BASIC cartridge for my atari 400, but I don't have GWbasic for DOS any
> more (or if I do, I don't know where it is).
I have innumerable versions, from the earliest on up, if you want.
You're welcome to have copies.
Incurable geek, who wants not to be any other way..
UnaSeal
>(UnaSeal) writes:
>TOTALLY off topic! Muhahhahha!
<pounds chest> Dare to be a splinter in the ass of humanity! :D
>My sister was concerned about my little cousin playing with Barbie and
>getting a warped view of what a woman should be, so she bought her a
>"Happy To Be Me" doll. It's a doll with realistic proportions.
>
>Cousin still prefers Barbie, though.
>
>-parr
>
>Well Barbie has Happy To Be Me beat in the advertising department
Admit it, It's hard to be happy to be oneself if one is without a Barbie
Townhouse, a Barbie Convertable, a Barbie Plastic Surgeon's office...
:) You're cousin's just practical! Probably a die-hard materialist, but
practical none-the-less! :)
Raukan
Schponfirkle!
griz...@vianet.on.ca (Ron Orr (& Tirran, sometimes)) howled:
>UnaSeal <abo...@terravirtua.com> wrote:
>> When I tried to reinstall Win '95 on my machine, I typed in "run," but the
>> strangest thing happend...What exactly does it mean when it says, "Press play
>> on tape"??? ;)
> Come to think of it, why _didn't_ they release Win95 on cassette
>tape? Then you could run it on a Sinclair Z80!
*sigh*
I've just spent a wistful weekend wandering through emulators ... I
found ZX81, ZX Spectrum, TI-99/4a, Apple II and Oric emulators. I once
had each of those machines, bar the Oric.
*sigh*
Ah, the memories ... Parsec, Boulderdash, learning to use a ZX81 and
freezing to death at the same time 'coz there was only enough power
outlets for two items - the computer and the TV, Horace Goes Skiing -
the first colour graphics I ever saw, wiring all the school Apple IIs
into a network and watching the pretty smoke rise from the overheated
cases, Little Computer People ... the bastard is so interesting to
watch that he's running in the background now in the Apple Emul. I'm
waiting for the sod to turn green and die ...
I've got a ZX81 stuck to the wall above my desk and use another as a
doorstop. Part of my wants to go back to the early eighties and enjoy
myself as I did then. Who needs hard drives anyway?
--- Raukan.
¬¬¬¬ Raukan Mactira rau...@pobox.com
¬¬¬¬ AHWw denizen http://www.pobox.com/~raukan
Raukan
Schponfirkle!
griz...@vianet.on.ca (Ron Orr (& Tirran, sometimes)) howled:
>> ... Ack! Contemplating it all is making me
>> light-headed...too bad Windoz doesn't have a plug-and-play "Esmirelda the
>> therapist" built in. :(
> Been looking for that one for a long time. Last time I played
>with one of those programs was back around 1982, when York University
>had it running on University of Toronto's VAX PDP10, the one that's now
>in the 'computer museum' at the Ontario Science Centre. Along with the
>IBM mainframe that proceeded it, which plays 6 simultaneous games of
>tic-tac-toe. And which I've beaten several times, BTW.
I've got the BASIC listing for Lisa on the Apple II in a magazine in
the attic ... 1983 vintage, I think. But, funny thing, when I run the
emulator and stick the magazine onto my scanner the program doesn't
seem to run ...
>> >> P.S.-- Does a lava lamp qualify as technology at all, I wonder? Or is it
>> > just a plug-in nature scene? :)
>> >
>> > Lava lamps, plasma globes, lightning balls...no, they're not
>> >technology, they're decorating. _Entirely_ different concepts!
Saw my first lava lamp in Dublin last week. I bet they'll be the next
big thing. I'm gonna buy five for the shop ...
Zepp
>I got you all whipped. My collection of fine techno-junk includes three
>Apple IIe computers, one 128k, one 64k, an elderly Commodore 32,
>a TRS-80 with tape-drive, a WYSE700 286pc CAD-Cam station, and the
>computer I actually use is a Kenitec 386pc with 3M of ram and a 329
>Mb hard drive. Bad enough my souvenirs of a bygone and best-forgotten
>age still litter my apartment, but the computer I actually use is
>nothing to write home to Alpha about...
>
>I did my initial computer training on a PDP-6, and I have a friend
>with a decrepit PDP-8 mini. Somewhere in this apartment are drive
>cards and jump leads to most of this crap. At work I use an old
>Mac Plus, which I understand is about one step up from the IIe.
>A while ago, I actually negotiated to buy a IIc and a 286 laptop.
>I was trained for 8088 work as well.
>
>Think it's time I marched boldly into the '80's?
>
>Ben Goodridge
>bgoo...@maine.maine.edu
>http://maine.maine.edu/~bgoodr61
>Who still knows what Syntax Error means, and can program in BASIC.
Hee, hee!! That reminds me of the time a couple friends of mine, having
partied, and somewhat of Strong Drink taken, decided that the ProDOS prompts
on Jon's mother's IIc lacked --panache--. They fiddled around, got into the
right file finally, and edited it. Next time we booted it up, instead of
"syntax error", it said "user fuckup", and instead of "File Not Found" is
said "gimme a fuckin' break, bonehead". They did several more, though memory
escapes me. Anyhoo, we had a fine old time with it, giggling and chortling,
oh how very witty we were... Backfired on us, though. Jon's mom is an
elementary school teacher, and she was NOT amused when she took the computer
to work on monday, and the kids saw those prompts. See, we'd forgotten
(being a bit hungover, truth be known) to change 'em back again!
Ah, but it was *glorious*!
Greywolf the Wanderer, borrowing zepp's account
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"File Not Found. Fake it? <Y> <N>"
Zepp
In article <511c7t$9...@hermes.acs.unt.edu>,
hug...@ponder.csci.unt.edu (Christopher Eric Hughes) wrote:
>: In article <47...@dogstar.win-uk.net>, meg...@dogstar.win-uk.net (MegaDog
the Nettweiler) wrote:
>
>: >*REAL* men program at a *hardware* level, soldering diodes to
>: >plugboards to create boot-ROMS.....
>
>: But the question NOW is, do "Real Men" use soldering irons, or do they use
>: anything?
>
Yup, yup, yup -- "Duct tape, the Handyman's Secret Weapon. Remember, men, if
the women don't find you handsome, they should at least find you handy!"
Besides, duct tape is kinda like The Force, ya know? It has a light side,
and a dark side, and it holds the Universe together...
Greywolf the Wanderer, borrowing zepp's account <grinning, ducking, running>
Zepp
In article
<Pine.OSF.3.92a.96091...@saul3.u.washington.edu>,
Ray Stricklin <kja...@u.washington.edu> wrote:
(snip)
> <laughing and wiping a tear> Oh, my, this sounds familiar.. my
>collection of ancient cruft is building at an alarming rate! I just found,
>for example, a 160k disk (notched double-sided) with PC-DOS 1.1 on it..
>and near it, MS-DOS 2.2, Compaq DOS 3.31 (useful, I ended up with an old
>Deskpro from an upgrade I did for a local church), PC-Geos 1.0, dBase
>II, and a pile of other wonderful garbage in a box at the back of my
>closet. (I finally cleared out a bunch of it so I could build a shelf in
>there and shove it all back in and pretend to have it organised).
Wow, man, I got you beat there! For a while, back about '88 or so, I was the
tech on duty for an answering service that had recently gone over to
computers -- StarTel, to be exact (let's just say, made an Atari Colour
Computer look GOOD) Among other things, like the quaint 300 baud modem, and
obsolete paper-destroying 8-pin dotmatrix printer, this thing had, on the
mainframe end, an actual honest to god 8" diskette drive!! I'd never even
SEEN one of those before! It was a pure-D bitch to find diskettes for that
thing! I tried like hell to convince them to upgrade so we could use the old
ones for drink coasters (about all they are really good for), but they didn't
want to spend the $$. So instead they paid me $10 an hour to do shit the
slow way. Go figure...
Greywolf the Wanderer, borrowing zepp's account
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"Device=Brain is offline. <A>bort, <R>etry, <F>ail?"
UnaSeal
>>: But the question NOW is, do "Real Men" use soldering irons, or do they use
>>: that fake red glue goop that one can't properly "unsolder" to extract
>>: anything?
>>
>>"Real Men" use DUCT TAPE. Who needs soldering irons? :)
>
>Yup, yup, yup -- "Duct tape, the Handyman's Secret Weapon. Remember, men, if
>the women don't find you handsome, they should at least find you handy!"
Er...now THAT would make an interesting centerfold for Electronics Digest. :)
Raukan
Schponfirkle!
meg...@dogstar.win-uk.net (MegaDog the Nettweiler) howled:
>>Second, I want to know...WHOSE reponcible for the red GOOP?
... the first person to slit a vein?
>Who's responsible for inventing lime jello?
Meg - who taught you to speak American (TM)? It's Jelly, man ... er
.. dog ... er ...
>Who's responsible for inflicting the Barbie-doll on the world?
Some dude named Ken.
>Who had the bare-assed cheek to list Broccoli as a food-item?
Didn't he do the 007 movies?
And who put the figs in the fig rolls?
Raukan
Schponfirkle!
hug...@ponder.csci.unt.edu (Christopher Eric Hughes) howled:
>I can.. it's just a question of whether or not I will. I've still got my
>BASIC cartridge for my atari 400, but I don't have GWbasic for DOS any
>more (or if I do, I don't know where it is).
After leaving one job (a lot time ago) I had five Atari 600XLs ... and
I used four of them as drag anchors on a raft I built for a raft race.
At that same job, I sawed a VIC-20 into 2 halves and left one half in
the street. You would not believe the number of people who came in to
tell us that there was half a computer outside our shop.
I'd love to see a doctor try that in *his* profession - "Doctor,
there's the top half of a corpse in your reception room!" "That's
alright, it's a promotional gimmick ..."
Raukan
Schponfirkle!
meg...@dogstar.win-uk.net (MegaDog the Nettweiler) howled:
>Which leads the Dog to begin pondering... maybe there's a place for a
>Werecode? I mean, like some easy way to consolidate most of the
>Werecard info into one bite-sized easy-to-digest .sig-friendly lump...
EXCELLENT idea! And topical, too!
... duh ...
(I've never been able to work out those codes anyway.)
Raukan
Schponfirkle!
meg...@dogstar.win-uk.net (MegaDog the Nettweiler) howled:
>In article <50ve98$t4_...@equine.onramp.net>, UnaSeal (abo...@terravirtua.com) writes:
>>In article <199609080...@nor104.vianet.on.ca>, griz...@vianet.on.ca (Ron Orr (& Tirran, sometimes)) wrote:
>>> What? And deprive himself of the joy of running a Real Computer?
>>>(You know, the kind where you turn it on and it just blinks at you...)
>><chuckles> "real men work in Basic." ;)
>Aaargh no!
>*REAL* men program at a *hardware* level, soldering diodes to
>plugboards to create boot-ROMS.....
Uh-oh. Nope. We count on our claws ... and use the little ones on the
back legs to carry the tens.
> "Are you pondering what I'm pondering?"
Could be. Are you decent? :)
Ron Orr (& Tirran, sometimes)
Raukan <rau...@pobox.com> wrote:
> I've got the BASIC listing for Lisa on the Apple II in a magazine in
> the attic ... 1983 vintage, I think.
If you ever remember which one, let me know. They're always
selling magazines in comp.sys.apple2.marketplace.
>... But, funny thing, when I run the
> emulator and stick the magazine onto my scanner the program doesn't
> seem to run ...
Maybe you put it in sideways? That's what I always seem to do...
> Saw my first lava lamp in Dublin last week. I bet they'll be the next
> big thing. I'm gonna buy five for the shop ...
_Next_ big thing? Hmmm...well, Over Here they go thru a revival
every few years. We bought one for our new house back in '89, and
they're coming back again in the nifty-stuff sorts of stores.
I also have a ring-type black light in a cool aluminum-and-glass
Art Deco table lamp, and a very Victorian looking floor lamp that
appears to be holding candles and a crystal ball instead of electric
lights.
Why all this? Because I've found that Interesting Lighting
sometimes helps me stay in touch with the Other Me...
Ron
Ron Orr (& Tirran, sometimes)
Greywolf the Wanderer, once again pretending to be Zepp
<ze...@snowcrest.net> reminisced:
> Hee, hee!! That reminds me of the time a couple friends of mine, having
> partied, and somewhat of Strong Drink taken, decided that the ProDOS prompts
> on Jon's mother's IIc lacked --panache--. They fiddled around, got into the
> right file finally, and edited it...
Err, you woudn't happen to remember _how,_ would you?
Ron
spiralling into the Black Hole of geekdom...
Ron Orr (& Tirran, sometimes)
Raukan <rau...@pobox.com> wrote:
> And who put the figs in the fig rolls?
Fig rolls...
Was it Puccini or Verdi? One of them operatic types, anyway...
Ron
showing his ignorance
Zepp
In article <199609130...@nor107.vianet.on.ca>,
*I* don't, having been fond of blackouts in my drinking days, but my friend
*might*. I'll ask... <giggle>
Greywolf the Wanderer, borrowing zepp's account
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Computer Repair Prices: Labour, $20/hour
If You Hang Out And Watch: $25/hour
If You Kibitz: $30/hour
If You Already Worked On It Yourself: $50/hour!
MegaDog the Nettweiler
In article <51a2pl$9...@nuacht.iol.ie>, Raukan (rau...@pobox.com) writes:
>Schponfirkle!
>
>meg...@dogstar.win-uk.net (MegaDog the Nettweiler) howled:
>>plugboards to create boot-ROMS.....
>
>Uh-oh. Nope. We count on our claws ... and use the little ones on the
>back legs to carry the tens.
Some of us had our dewclaws snipped off as puppies...
>> "Are you pondering what I'm pondering?"
>
>Could be. Are you decent? :)
Since when have *I* been decent?
!Raised Tails! -:MegaDog:-
Seven Deadly Sins: Collect the full set!
Ben Goodridge
Awww! That's cute.
Actually, I always wanted to learn how to use one of those slipsticks.
I had one for a while in high school that I basically used to impress
everyone with their little dickweed pocket calculators.
Now, a slide-rule may seem to be an odd sort of thing one uses to
pull girls with, but I think it was the novelty value of the thing.
"Is that a slide rule in your pocket, or are you just happy to see
me?"
I'm even more perverse now. When I was in the Cincinnati Public
Library gift shop I bought an abacus. And yes, I know how to use it.
Now THAT has its novelty value in math class.
Tinkering with the web site...
Skeezix88
In article <515vpk$k...@news.snowcrest.net>, ze...@snowcrest.net (Zepp)
writes:
>In article <5101bq$1f...@sol.caps.maine.edu>,
> Ben Goodridge <bgoo...@maine.maine.edu> wrote:
>
>>I got you all whipped. My collection of fine techno-junk includes three
>>Apple IIe computers, one 128k, one 64k, an elderly Commodore 32,
>>a TRS-80 with tape-drive, a WYSE700 286pc CAD-Cam station, and the
>>computer I actually use is a Kenitec 386pc with 3M of ram and a 329
>>Mb hard drive.
I've been looking for your list for a week now. <ahem> I possess a
TRS-80 Model III with dual 5 1/4" drives... a happenin' Kaypro II (the
last word in "portable"-sewing-machine-size computers)... an Osborne of
the same vintage (don'tcha miss those 5" diagonal screens? <squint, tear,
squint>)... a Tandy Color Computer 2 (yeah... it's really a toy)... an old
Vic-20 (somewhere)... an Atari 800XL with tape drive (and the ol' Zenith
13" B&W I used as a monitor... older'n me and still ticking.)... an AT...
a 286 with CD-ROM (!)... my present AST 386 Advantage! laptop with the
2400 baud modem (ask BlackPaws how much fun *that* one is for
telnetting!)... and the prize of my collection lies at the back of my
mother-in-law's shed. Can't remember make or model, but it had an
internal 8" floppy drive and looked like something outta The Jetsons.
Integral monochrome monitor, weighed some fifty pounds... maybe it was a
Superbrain? (Remember those?)
Best part is... they all work. Even the last one, though all the system
disks have crumbled into dust.
I prefer the term "packrat" to "incurable geek".
I was never up-to-date or state-of-the-art enough to remotely qualify for
geekhood.
-Blue Methuselah... a coyote in a Cougar!
Skee...@aol.com
"I have a pipe and a drum to play...
I whistle along on the seventh day..." -I. Anderson
Shuck
Heh, this thread has prompted my to clear out my cupboards and see
what PC equipment (excluding the homemade *$&*!@* I'm using now) I
have. To wit:
Apple II+, Apple IIe, IBM PS/2 model 50Z and 60, IBM AT, Dragon 32,
Acorn Electron, Epson PX8, NEC 8201, Mitac XT, VIC-20, PB-110 and IBM
Convertible.
The only machines I ever got rid of was a ZX81 (mistake) and Amstrad
CPC6128. Now, if anyone is burdened with a ZX80/ZX81 or a Vectrex
console, I'll gladly take it off their paws ;)
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#########\,,#######\_,,###### www: http://dspace.dial.pipex.com/shuck/
Skeezix88
In article <51s4k8$1...@soap.news.pipex.net>, sh...@dial.pipex.com (Shuck)
writes:
> Now, if anyone is burdened with a ZX80/ZX81 or a Vectrex
>console, I'll gladly take it off their paws ;)
Good Goddamn! A Vectrex!! Man, that oughta be worth some serious coin!
Hell, I wanted one *bad* when I was... what, 12?
I do have the Sears Tele-Games version of Atari's first at-home Pong
game... predating the 2600 by a coupla years. And my 2600 is the old one
(with all six toggles up top), with innumerable games... some of which I
miss greatly. I'll kink *anyone's* ass at the 2600 versions of Warlords
or Asteroids. In fact, Asteroids I could play indefinitely. Boredom
kills me, not the rocks.
Raukan
Schponfirkle!
>Heh, this thread has prompted my to clear out my cupboards and see
>what PC equipment (excluding the homemade *$&*!@* I'm using now) I
>have.
This is the irrelevant thread that will never die. :)
Last week, I trawled through my magazine archive and hit paydirt,
finding my old Applesoft Basic and Apple II Reference manuals for the
emulators ... tonight I retrieved my Atari 800Xl handbook (worthless)
and the Inside Atari Basic programming book.
I think I'll learn how to program in BASIC. What's a "error message"?
:)
BTW - I have a non-functional ZX81 if you want it or a ZX81 emulator I
found. The emulator is a little faster. :) Sadly, I planted a chair
leg into the keyboard of the ZX81 and it cracked. My other ZX81 is ok
and the wobbly ol' 16K RAM pack is held on with blu-tak.
D'you remember Sinclair offering kit ZX81s for £49? I ordered one and
they replied that they couldn't send it to "foreign countries".
*sigh* Ruined my prospective career in electronics, that did.
--- Raukan.
¬¬¬¬ Raukan Mactira rau...@pobox.com
¬¬¬¬ AHWw denizen http://www.pobox.com/~raukan
Is mise an mactire fiain ag amhastraigh faoin an gealach ...
Zepp
Ben Goodridge <bgoo...@maine.maine.edu> spake thusly:
>Actually, I always wanted to learn how to use one of those slipsticks.
>I had one for a while in high school that I basically used to impress
>everyone with their little dickweed pocket calculators.
>Now, a slide-rule may seem to be an odd sort of thing one uses to
>pull girls with, but I think it was the novelty value of the thing.
>"Is that a slide rule in your pocket, or are you just happy to see
>me?"
>I'm even more perverse now. When I was in the Cincinnati Public
>Library gift shop I bought an abacus. And yes, I know how to use it.
>Now THAT has its novelty value in math class.
>Ben Goodridge
>bgoo...@maine.maine.edu
>http://maine.maine.edu/~bgoodr61
>Tinkering with the web site...
I still have my old slipstick, but buggered if I remember how to use
the bloody thing. It was a cool thing to have back in high school,
though -- calculators were still WAY too expensive for most of us, and
a lot of teachers wouldn't let you use one in a test, but a slipstick
was just fine.
One o' these days I'll have to find the directions for it somewhere on
the Net, and teach myself again.
Greywolf the Wanderer, who STILL prefers analog clocks to digital!
<borrowing zepp's account>
<looks innocent> Of course I've had my rabies shots, Officer. See my dog tags?
Zepp
sh...@dial.pipex.com (Shuck) polluted the cyberspace with this:
>Heh, this thread has prompted my to clear out my cupboards and see
>what PC equipment (excluding the homemade *$&*!@* I'm using now) I
>have. To wit:
>Apple II+, Apple IIe, IBM PS/2 model 50Z and 60, IBM AT, Dragon 32,
>Acorn Electron, Epson PX8, NEC 8201, Mitac XT, VIC-20, PB-110 and IBM
>Convertible.
>The only machines I ever got rid of was a ZX81 (mistake) and Amstrad
>CPC6128. Now, if anyone is burdened with a ZX80/ZX81 or a Vectrex
>console, I'll gladly take it off their paws ;)
Only thing like that we've got is an old AT & T PC6300; weighs about
forty pounds, has monochrome CGA monitor, one 5 1/4" floppy, and a
whole 20megs of HD.... Geez, guys, guess ya got me beat. Oh, well,
we got the damn thing for free. Fixed it, and the lady decided she
didn't want it back after all. <Grin. One o' these days I might rip
out its innards and use the case for a real computer. Maybe. If I
get *real* bored one full moon night....>
Greywolf the Wanderer, borrowing zepp's account
> , _--_--___--~~-_/^.__.
> (_/ (~__ (~ )_---~ John Ambrose - Cambridge, England.
> ( \ ~~~---\ \ email: sh...@dial.pipex.com
>#########\,,#######\_,,###### www: http://dspace.dial.pipex.com/shuck/
Unknown
Whoops: I'd meant to mention that I currently own 3 HP
calculators: 41CX, 28, 48SX (I think)... The 25 died about 8 years
back...
I also own 4 slide rules including a Pickett Aluminum model.
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Unknown
On Sat, 21 Sep 1996 09:32:58 GMT in alt.horror.werewolves,
Zepp (ze...@snowcrest.net) declaimed:
>
> I still have my old slipstick, but buggered if I remember how to use
> the bloody thing. It was a cool thing to have back in high school,
> though -- calculators were still WAY too expensive for most of us, and
> a lot of teachers wouldn't let you use one in a test, but a slipstick
> was just fine.
>
> One o' these days I'll have to find the directions for it somewhere on
> the Net, and teach myself again.
Which scales? Standard C/D pair? Multiply by putting the
C-1 over one of the two multiplicands on D; look for other
multiplicand on C, result is found on the D scale. You should be
able to figure out the divide operation from that.
Squaring a number... find number on D, read square on A (cube
on K I believe).
Reciprocals? Find number on C, reciprocal on CI.
Proportions: set one number (on C) over the other (on D); all
pairs on C/D are now in the ratio.
That's just the simple stuff... Oh yeah, on a PROPER slide
rule, the CF/DF scales should be laid out such that DF shows the
result of D time PI...
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{whose latest watch has a simple circular sliderule for the
bezel -- just C/D scales, but still...}
Ron Orr (& Tirran, sometimes)
Ben Goodridge <bgoo...@maine.maine.edu> wrote:
> Ray Stricklin <kja...@u.washington.edu> wrote:
> >
> > I confess!
> >
> > I am 19 years old, and I own a slide rule. And I use it. Even
> > though it's mostly for performance art value. (:
>
> Awww! That's cute.
>
> Actually, I always wanted to learn how to use one of those slipsticks.
> I had one for a while in high school that I basically used to impress
> everyone with their little dickweed pocket calculators.
They still have some interesting uses; a really good one can be
more useful in a car rally than a calculator...and some events don't
allow the Magic Boxes anyway, so you can use one to get an edge. ;)
And of course, you _have_ to learn how to use one when taking
ground school for your pilot's license, in Canada, anyway.
> Now, a slide-rule may seem to be an odd sort of thing one uses to
> pull girls with, but I think it was the novelty value of the thing.
>
> "Is that a slide rule in your pocket, or are you just happy to see
> me?"
Depends, I would think, on whether it's a straight one or one of
the circular ones...
> I'm even more perverse now. When I was in the Cincinnati Public
> Library gift shop I bought an abacus. And yes, I know how to use it.
>
> Now THAT has its novelty value in math class.
Yup, especially when using it to run integrations...
The Great Electronic Calculator Explosion happened in the year
between my graduating high school and entering college. I remember that
wonderful urban legend, the one about a skilled operator on an abacus
being able to calculate faster than someone with a calculator.
When someone would tell me that, I'd just smile and say, "Does
that apply to calculating cube roots?"
And I still use the HP-41C I bought in 1980. Only the third set
of AAA batteries, too.
Ron
child of his times
Ben Goodridge
ze...@snowcrest.net (Zepp) wrote:
>
> sh...@dial.pipex.com (Shuck) polluted the cyberspace with this:
>
> >Heh, this thread has prompted my to clear out my cupboards and see
> >what PC equipment (excluding the homemade *$&*!@* I'm using now) I
> >have. To wit:
>
> >Apple II+, Apple IIe, IBM PS/2 model 50Z and 60, IBM AT, Dragon 32,
> >Acorn Electron, Epson PX8, NEC 8201, Mitac XT, VIC-20, PB-110 and IBM
> >Convertible.
You've got the II+ and IIe? Question: you wouldn't happen to have a
720k expansion card for it, as well as a copy of Appleworks with
Appletools? I've got Hell's own files that I can't convert from
ProDOS to save my life...
What I really need is the software to convert Apple IIe ProDOS to
straight ASCII TXT...
The tape on my glasses is showing.
> >The only machines I ever got rid of was a ZX81 (mistake)
I thought a ZX81 was a car...
Shuck
Ben Goodridge <bgoo...@maine.maine.edu> wrote:
>You've got the II+ and IIe? Question: you wouldn't happen to have a
>720k expansion card for it, as well as a copy of Appleworks with
>Appletools? I've got Hell's own files that I can't convert from
>ProDOS to save my life...
Sorry, I've got the machines, and the disk drives but no system
software for them. The IIe boots into BASIC fine, though.
>I thought a ZX81 was a car...
No, that's a Z28. Read Timex TS1000 for the US spelling of ZX81 :)
BTW, as I'm being really sad, I'll mention that I picked up a couple
of CED videodisk players today. They use video disks, but they're not
laserdisks, the disks are actually read by a stylus, exactly like a
record. Amazing things, all I've got to do is find out how to load the
disks into them now :)
Shuck
skee...@aol.com (Skeezix88) wrote:
>Good Goddamn! A Vectrex!! Man, that oughta be worth some serious coin!
>Hell, I wanted one *bad* when I was... what, 12?
I've got a Vectrex emulator with loads of games (DOS version). Send us
a note if you want it, and I'll find some space on a web site to
upload it to.
>I do have the Sears Tele-Games version of Atari's first at-home Pong
>game... predating the 2600 by a coupla years. And my 2600 is the old one
>(with all six toggles up top), with innumerable games... some of which I
>miss greatly. I'll kink *anyone's* ass at the 2600 versions of Warlords
>or Asteroids. In fact, Asteroids I could play indefinitely. Boredom
>kills me, not the rocks.
Dammit, you've got an original 2600? That'll be the one with two
circuit boards in it, before Atari revised the system to more easily
go into mass-production. Take good care of her, and never let her go,
that's a rare machine you have there.
Shuck (AHWW's resident old computer geek)
Ron Orr (& Tirran, sometimes)
Unknown <wulf...@beastie.netcom.com> wrote:
> Whoops: I'd meant to mention that I currently own 3 HP
> calculators: 41CX, 28, 48SX (I think)... The 25 died about 8 years
> back...
For all you Macweres, there's a DA that emulates an HP-15
calculator; a bit awkward, you can't enter numbers from the number keys,
but fun to use nonetheless. :)
Us
MegaDog the Nettweiler
In article <1996092112...@nor103.vianet.on.ca>, Ron Orr (& Tirran, sometimes) (griz...@vianet.on.ca) writes:
>
> And I still use the HP-41C I bought in 1980. Only the third set
>of AAA batteries, too.
Hmmm.. well, my H-P 33E [1977 vintage] is still going strong too... i
love to hand it to people when they say "Have you got a calculator i
can borrow?" then wait for them to come back 10 minutes later,
confused, when i proceed to explain the joys of RPN....
"Press '2', 'enter', '2', '+' and you've got the answer..."
!Raised Tails! -:MehaDog:-
[Hopeless Calculator Junkie!]
Ixbalam
> BTW, as I'm being really sad, I'll mention that I picked up a couple
> of CED videodisk players today. They use video disks, but they're not
> laserdisks, the disks are actually read by a stylus, exactly like a
> record. Amazing things, all I've got to do is find out how to load the
> disks into them now :)
That's easy! All you do is push the 'disk caddy' all the way in
and then pull it back out, leaving the disk inside. The player is supposed
to turn itself on and play the whole thing or until you hit the standby
button. I know, I have one I got at a garage sale. $10 for the player, a
disk of Grease (the movie :) and a couple of audio CDs. Pretty good deal.
:) What I really need for it is a new stylus cartridge. The picture
quality isn't that great. :(
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Tommy Johnson
In article <1996092222...@nor135.vianet.on.ca>,
And for Unix-weres... uh, X-weres? no... For weres who use Unix and
X, there is x48, which emulates an HP48GX or SX. You'll need a ROM
image from a real calculator though.
My toys: HP48GX (calculator), HP9000/425 (oldish Unix box), HP laserjet 2
(printer), HP scanjet 3c (anti-printer).
HP is a fun company. I asked them for a programming manual for the
scanjet, and instead of saying "NO!" or "sign this non-disclosure
agreement" they said: "Whats your address".
-Tom "Bugger, now I have to wait for someone to wake up." -Markus
tjoh...@csgrad.cs.vt.edu "My other computer ALSO runs unix." -me <*>
http://csgrad.cs.vt.edu/~tjohnson/ Commercial email is unwelcome.
Message and signature (c) 1996 Tommy O. Johnson, all rights reserved
Zepp
wulf...@beastie.netcom.com (Unknown) polluted the cyberspace with
this:
>On Sat, 21 Sep 1996 09:32:58 GMT in alt.horror.werewolves,
>Zepp (ze...@snowcrest.net) declaimed:
> >
> > I still have my old slipstick, but buggered if I remember how to use
> > the bloody thing. It was a cool thing to have back in high school,
> > though -- calculators were still WAY too expensive for most of us, and
> > a lot of teachers wouldn't let you use one in a test, but a slipstick
> > was just fine.
> >
> > One o' these days I'll have to find the directions for it somewhere on
> > the Net, and teach myself again.
> Which scales? Standard C/D pair? Multiply by putting the
>C-1 over one of the two multiplicands on D; look for other
>multiplicand on C, result is found on the D scale. You should be
>able to figure out the divide operation from that.
> Squaring a number... find number on D, read square on A (cube
>on K I believe).
> Reciprocals? Find number on C, reciprocal on CI.
> Proportions: set one number (on C) over the other (on D); all
>pairs on C/D are now in the ratio.
> That's just the simple stuff... Oh yeah, on a PROPER slide
>rule, the CF/DF scales should be laid out such that DF shows the
>result of D time PI...
TOO cool, Wulfraed! E molto grazie!!!
Greywolf the Grateful Wanderer, borrowing zepp's account
Dennis Lee Bieber
On Tue, 24 Sep 1996 05:29:59 GMT in alt.horror.werewolves,
Zepp (ze...@snowcrest.net) declaimed:
> TOO cool, Wulfraed! E molto grazie!!!
Enjoy...
John Higginbotham
On Sat, 21 Sep 1996, Ron Orr (& Tirran, sometimes) wrote:
> The Great Electronic Calculator Explosion happened in the year
> between my graduating high school and entering college. I remember that
> wonderful urban legend, the one about a skilled operator on an abacus
> being able to calculate faster than someone with a calculator.
> When someone would tell me that, I'd just smile and say, "Does
> that apply to calculating cube roots?"
Actually, as I recall the story, it was a computer firm wanting to
show off the speed of it's new processor. The computer got the answer
almost half a minute faster, but the person on the keyboard was trying to
type to fast and fed the computer the wrong numbers, so the computer got
the wrong answer.
"I'm all for keeping dangerous objects out of the hands of fools.
Let's start with typewriters."
- Soloman Short
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Skeezix88
In article <199609130...@nor107.vianet.on.ca>,
griz...@vianet.on.ca (Ron Orr (& Tirran, sometimes)) writes:
>Raukan <rau...@pobox.com> wrote:
>
>>... But, funny thing, when I run the
>> emulator and stick the magazine onto my scanner the program doesn't
>> seem to run ...
>
> Maybe you put it in sideways? That's what I always seem to do...
>
For some reason, this tickles the hell out of me. I can't fathom
*wanting* to emulate really-really-old operating systems... especially
since it strikes me that if one really feels nostalgic for dinosaurs like
that, one should similarly feel nostalgic for typing in all those hundreds
of lines of code by hand!
>> Saw my first lava lamp in Dublin last week. I bet they'll be the next
>> big thing. I'm gonna buy five for the shop ...
>
> _Next_ big thing? Hmmm...well, Over Here they go thru a revival
>every few years. We bought one for our new house back in '89, and
>they're coming back again in the nifty-stuff sorts of stores.
> I also have a ring-type black light in a cool aluminum-and-glass
>Art Deco table lamp, and a very Victorian looking floor lamp that
>appears to be holding candles and a crystal ball instead of electric
>lights.
> Why all this? Because I've found that Interesting Lighting
>sometimes helps me stay in touch with the Other Me...
>
>
My man! Lighting is *very* important to me. My brother's living room is
mostly lit by 3 or 4 dim strands of small white Xmas lights... and the
effect is delightful. He's also got a tall floor lamp, the base, pole,
and top of which is sculpted to resemble a frighteningly large python.
He's got cool taste.
KatmanDu
skee...@aol.com (Skeezix88) wrote:
>For some reason, this tickles the hell out of me. I can't fathom
>*wanting* to emulate really-really-old operating systems... especially
>since it strikes me that if one really feels nostalgic for dinosaurs like
>that, one should similarly feel nostalgic for typing in all those hundreds
>of lines of code by hand!
I still have a couple of dozen "Rainbow" magazines downstairs (for the
color computer family, 6809) and looke at a couple of them last
move... I remember typing in a couple of those programs and thinking
"Geez! This is a long one! Any more complicated and they'll have to
start sending cassette tapes with the magazine!"
Unfortunately, all my really old Byte magazines got tossed... I miss
Ciarcia's Circuit Cellar...