HELP!!
william smith
desire!
HOE DO YOU KNOW, how do you know what you are? garou, kindred, cainite,
lupine, vampire, were-?, etc.
i have searched on the net and many, many volumes of books, for just one
inkling of feasable information to explain what i see and how i feel.
but it seems all i can find are just ridiculous speculations of the
diseased community that i now reside, or the lunatic ravings of a
wannabe!
so, is there anyone ou there that maybe give me some pertenant
information and maybe, possibly some guidance?
NO WANNABES OR FOOLISH UNBEILEVERS NEED REPLY!!!
food for thought-
IF GOD DROPPED ACID.....
would he see people?¿
Kioma Winterwolf
> information and maybe, possibly some guidance?
Umm. I'm not very well-versed in such things, but I seriously believe that
it's not so much a matter of finding someone who expresses the same thing
you feel and saying 'Oh, I must be one of those' (as I did for a long, long
time), but you'd be better employed (so to speak) by sitting back and
taking a passive attitude to the information you come across - that is to
say, sink yourself in the many very excellent resources out 'there' (a
place I still have yet to find), and keep an open mind in reading whatever
you choose to read. It took me a long while and a hard struggle to stop
myself going nuts and hunting down every single bit of
psychology/religion/were-related/personality information I could and
pinning stuff down till it let me be it, but I did it and just let the info
come my way. Eventually it did, as if someone/something/both decided,
'Okay, he's ready' and sent me what I needed just when I needed it.
Possibly I'm not expressing this very well - it's an instinctive feeling
and I'm not predisposed towards rationality.
Nevertheless, my own self-discovery (which, by the way, is far from
complete and sometimes I wish it never will be) was more a matter of
letting it happen than trying to make it happen. I know others for whom
this has worked wonders, and still others whom this thread of thought
simply aggravated beyond belief (and considering the animal he
self-discovered himself to be connected to, it was possibly a good thing he
had very good self-control).
When it comes right down to it, self-discovery is just that -
SELF-discovery. Trying to find someone who can sympathise with you is one
thing, but trying to find someone to tell you what you are just doesn't
work. It's a fine distinction, but it's an important one.
Of course all of this may just be a whole heap of self-indulgent crap, but
it seems Right for me (note the capital letter).
>
> NO WANNABES OR FOOLISH UNBEILEVERS NEED REPLY!!!
Oh, Heavens forbid. :)
I wish you the best on your journey - make it a fun one, because there's no
reason why it shouldn't be even if, like myself, you are predisposed
towards melancholic thoughts and deep depression. The simple things in
life are often the ones that help the most.
And if none of that helps, just remember - Narf. Narf makes everything
seem more bearable. :)
Kioma
Flairgold
>HOE DO YOU KNOW, how do you know what you are? garou, kindred, cainite,
>lupine, vampire, were-?
Lemme set you straight. Garou, Kindred, Cainites (which is a clan of the
Kindred, btw), and Lupines (which is the vamps' name for the Garou, btw) are
purely spawned in the creative and dauntless imaginations of White-Wolf RPG
Gaming systems. In other words, none of these guys exist... the so-called
"Brujah Gangs" out on the streets are messed-up kids who think it's cool to
drink blood, and nothing more.
Now, Vampires and Weres do exist, I will vouch for this. In fact, fair citizen
of webtv, you have struck upon the very newsgroup where we weres reside, a
sparkling gem of weredom in the dried-out, bulldozed field of humanity.
::takes a minute to scribbled that one down:: Anyway, my advice is to lurk
around for a bit, reading threads and getting the jist of things.
How did I know what I am? As is written in that elusive werecard of mine, it
felt very very right :)
To make things short, I've always known I'm not human, and I've always
suspected I'm some kind of wereanimal. Explaining to my parents exactly why i
hate eating utensils, that's the hard part ;)
Saskia
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Wagner_Modisson
is? No, it just is. We know what our senses tell us. BTW, I'm sure we have
a FAQ out there somewhere. It has all sorts of helpful information in it.
The web address escapes me at the moment. Try looking up AHWW (alt horror
were wolves) and FAQ on an internet searcher.
Fionna da Coon
PS Please do not refer to us as wannabes or foolish unbelievers. It isn't
polite and you definitely wont get the kind of response you want.
Zaphod_ FroodyBrox
>Kindred, btw), and Lupines (which is the vamps' name for the Garou, btw)
are
>purely spawned in the creative and dauntless imaginations of White-Wolf RPG
>Gaming systems. In other words, none of these guys exist... the so-called
>"Brujah Gangs" out on the streets are messed-up kids who think it's cool to
>drink blood, and nothing more.
now i have to correct you
Garou Lupines and Cainites has b'n in AD6D since the very bgeinning and ad&d
is the first roleplaying game
so white wolf might come in second, but it's not the creators of those
words.
shadowscout
> How do we know what we are? We just are. Is the wolf confused about what it
> is? No, it just is. We know what our senses tell us. BTW, I'm sure we have
> a FAQ out there somewhere. It has all sorts of helpful information in it.
> The web address escapes me at the moment. Try looking up AHWW (alt horror
> were wolves) and FAQ on an internet searcher.
>
> Fionna da Coon
If I recall correctly, you can find the FAQ on the WWW at the following
sites:
http://www.therianthrope.org
http://www.swampfox.demon.co.uk/~utlah/ahww/index.html
Good luck.....
Shadowscout
shadowscout If you had any idea what was going on
sc...@netdoor.com in the minds of the seemingly normal people
ICQ 5260803 all around you, you'd run for your life.
Wanderer
AD&D, as well as the D&D (beginner's verson). And while there are
werewolves and vampires, the words "Garou", "Lupines", "Cainites",
"Kindred", etc., do not occur in those books (and I'm *very* sure ... I even
checked my college's copy of AD&D:).
Yours with collections of games,
The wolfish,
Wanderer**wand...@applink.net
Where am I going?I don't quite know.
What does it matter where people go?
Down to the woods where the bluebells grow.
Anywhere! Anywhere! *I*don't know!
Ron Orr... & Tirran
> i know sombody out there, sombody, can provide me with the information i
> desire!
> HOE DO YOU KNOW, how do you know what you are? garou, kindred, cainite,
> lupine, vampire, were-?, etc.
For one thing... stay away from those double-damned RPGs. man.
The s/n ration in those things is so low you're just as likely to come
up with the truth by writing it out of your own head...
> i have searched on the net and many, many volumes of books, for just one
> inkling of feasable information to explain what i see and how i feel.
Something that works for me is the good old vision quest. Take
some time, get away, and just look inside yourself for a while.
Suggestions on how to go about doing such are readily available; you
prolly wouldn't like my technique. (Last time I stayed awake for 36
hours and drove alone from Montreal to Harrisburg to Erie PA with only
one stop. I was thrashed by the end, but I Dreamed a number of very
revealing stories too.)
Don't expect instant answers, either, I've been looking pretty
much full-tme for three years now, and I don't know a whole lot more
than when I started...
Tir'
Kioma Winterwolf
> The s/n ration in those things is so low you're just as likely to come
> up with the truth by writing it out of your own head...
Oh, I dunno. You just have to read between the lines and, more
importantly, know exactly which lines to read between. I quite enjoy W:tA
- I Storytell it, in fact - and I firmly believe it's good for a laugh.
Nothing is funnier than the honest mistake of thinking you know everything.
:)
> Something that works for me is the good old vision quest. Take
Yepyepyep, get back to basics. There's a REASON why people vouch for
visionquests - they work, if done right.
> prolly wouldn't like my technique. (Last time I stayed awake for 36
> hours and drove alone from Montreal to Harrisburg to Erie PA with only
> one stop. I was thrashed by the end, but I Dreamed a number of very
> revealing stories too.)
Probably not the best for everyone, but if it works... Personally I use
the exhaustion technique myself, but it can be combined with a few other
elements to heighten the effect.
> Don't expect instant answers, either, I've been looking pretty
> much full-tme for three years now, and I don't know a whole lot more
> than when I started...
"Growth is an ongoing process. It stops when you die." Someone said that
once, but for the life of me I can't think of whom...
Kioma