Other lycanthropes?
jason yaskoir
paradoxicus
o'donnell lisa lynn
: Can only were-WOLVES post here or are other lycanthropes welcome too?
: paradoxicus
Well, we've already got a werebat, a weretiger, and a weredragon as
well as us werewolves.
N'other words... post, and be welcome here.
Lisa
(BTW, a believe the term 'lycanthrope' refers only to werewolves
and not to other werebeasts... but I knew what you meant.)
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Brent Hughes
> : paradoxicus
>
> Well, we've already got a werebat, a weretiger, and a weredragon as
> well as us werewolves.
>
> N'other words... post, and be welcome here.
Add to that a were-panther wannabe, and somebody else mentioned a were-cougar.
By the way, how do were-'felines' react to were-'canines' and vice versa. One
would think that werewolves would be intelligent enough not to try and
stupidly chase a were-cat around (but it might be amusing.. for both parties
involved!).
>
> Lisa
> (BTW, a believe the term 'lycanthrope' refers only to werewolves
> and not to other werebeasts... but I knew what you meant.)
Are you sure about that? I though lycanthrope referred to all werebeasts
(though I certainly could be wrong).
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Elfchief's lifemate
Regarding how were'felines' react to were'canines'...
According to White Wolf and the Werewolf:Players' Guide (yah, I
know, this is /really the place for it, but the question did come up,
so... :) ) Bastet (were-kitties) aren't particularly all that fond of
Garou. They mirror the stereotype of the 'classic cat'.. sleek, graceful,
snobbish, with a
'if you don't want to treat me with the respect I deserve, then,
I'll just
ignore you and you can deal'
attitude.
They think of the Garou as uncivilized and uncouth, and firmly believe
that they are 'above' the 'puppies'. (I don't want to get in a flame fes
t, just relaying an attitde, sorry ).
All in all, they do their best to stay away from the Garou, and
according to the same source, the Garou feel about the same way about
them. They are too high and mighty for their own good, have no morals
(they even sleep with other Bastet *gasp*) and are basically nothing more
than a pain in the rear.
'Course, that doesn't mean they won't help one another ot if it's
/absolutely/ necessary, but.....they won't enjoy it.
-Walker
Brent Hughes
>
> According to White Wolf and the Werewolf:Players' Guide (yah, I
> know, this is /really the place for it, but the question did come up,
> so... :) ) Bastet (were-kitties) aren't particularly all that fond of
> Garou. They mirror the stereotype of the 'classic cat'.. sleek, graceful,
> snobbish, with a
> 'if you don't want to treat me with the respect I deserve, then,
> I'll just
> ignore you and you can deal'
> attitude.
Heh. I like them even more now. I don't think I'm too snobbish, though I do
like the sleek and graceful part. ;-) Cats also have such a good sense of
humour too, and I've seen many of them play tricks on unsuspecting dogs. I
think I'll go hang out in a tree somewhere and wait for an unsuspecting
werewolf to wander by...
> They think of the Garou as uncivilized and uncouth, and firmly believe
> that they are 'above' the 'puppies'. (I don't want to get in a flame fes
> t, just relaying an attitde, sorry ).
No problem. IMHO, cats _are_ better than dogs. (uh oh! Better watch that
statement!). If I didn't think that, why would I prefer panthers to wolves...
> All in all, they do their best to stay away from the Garou, and
> according to the same source, the Garou feel about the same way about
> them. They are too high and mighty for their own good, have no morals
> (they even sleep with other Bastet *gasp*) and are basically nothing more
> than a pain in the rear.
Terrible, terrible! They sleep with other Bastet?? Did I mention that my
girlfriend relates to were-panthers as well?
Ironically, after I posted my little question about were'felines', I had a
dream about being a panther. I remember wrestling with another panther,
in a friendly sort of way, and trying to catch a turtle, but the rest is kind
of hazy. When I told my girlfriend, she got a look of shock on her face and
she said that she too dreamed about being a panther, but her dream was totally
different. :( I thought it was cool anyways.
Ron Cass Poirier
> Can only were-WOLVES post here or are other lycanthropes welcome too?
> paradoxicus
I say, the more the merrier - but then, I'm a werebat, so I guess
that would sort of make sense, in a way...
By my counting, there are several phenotypes of lycanthrope (Been
reading Van Richten's Guide to the Werebeast...) skulking about, including
myself, a weretiger, a werepanther, and just recently perhaps a
(were?)dragon. What species are you? I'd be interested to meet a
wereskunk someday...
Van Richten's Guide to the Werebeast (AD&D supplement) states that
lycanthropes come in many species but are limited to those that are
carnivorous or at least omnivorous (i.e. they must be able to eat meat).
Thus, no werebunnies, werecows, weredeer, etc. Not sure exactl how I feel
about that, I could see it either way, but an interesting point anyway.
What would a weredeer get off on, anyway, evading predators? Sheesh.
(Though I think I dated a weremouse once - sigh, the bat and the
mouse, just another case of starcross...)
Anyway, to answer your question, I think most of the pack here
have been pretty good-natured towards my own Chiropteran tendencies, so
they'd probably be pretty good-natured toward yourself. Just let them
sniff you first.
- Ron P. ^*^
<HISSSS!! squeak!>
Graham Brown
> By the way, how do were-'felines' react to were-'canines' and vice versa. One
> would think that werewolves would be intelligent enough not to try and
> stupidly chase a were-cat around (but it might be amusing.. for both parties
> involved!).
> >
Graham.
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>paradoxicus
other shape-shifting beasties are welcome.
Graham Brown
> In article <2e9s5a$5...@donal.dorsai.org> par...@dorsai.dorsai.org (jason
> yaskoir) writes:
> > Can only were-WOLVES post here or are other lycanthropes welcome too?
> > paradoxicus
Well I am a were sheep really ,baaaahhhhh, see.
No this isn't an arran sweater, its the real thing. So if you happen to
be a were sheep too then maybe we could "meat" for a meal.
AAAAAAAAAARRRRRRRRRRRRRRRROOOOOOOOOOOOHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH.
<cough>
I mean , baaahhh.
Graham.
P.S. I'll bring the mint.
P.P.S <Lisa, nudge>
Moss A D
Oh, that's NOTHING.
I'm a werehuman.
=)
Adam.
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o'donnell lisa lynn
: Well I am a were sheep really ,baaaahhhhh, see.
: No this isn't an arran sweater, its the real thing. So if you happen to
: be a were sheep too then maybe we could "meat" for a meal.
... werecows, wererabbits, weremice, and werehamsters are also
welcome. <grin sluuurp!>
: P.S. I'll bring the mint.
: P.P.S <Lisa, nudge>
<wink wink saynomore saynomore>
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Ron Cass Poirier
What's WW:TA say about Werebats, by the way? Anything? I know
they are mentioned as living in the South Americas at least once in the
version I read...
- Ron P. ^*^
(Were-ARMADILLOS???)
Timothy Fay
> Van Richten's Guide to the Werebeast (AD&D supplement) states that
>lycanthropes come in many species but are limited to those that are
>carnivorous or at least omnivorous (i.e. they must be able to eat meat).
>Thus, no werebunnies, werecows, weredeer, etc.
The legends of many cultures abound in stories about people becoming
different kinds of animals. In China and Japan, there are were-foxes
and were-deer. In Australia there are tales of the Dream Time, when
men could become kangaroos and other animals, and vice versa. Shape-
shifting is not limited to certain kinds of animals (but what did you
expect from a D&D book?).
>What would a weredeer get off on, anyway, evading predators? Sheesh.
Don't knock it until you've tried it... :-)
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Huzzah!!!
Adam.
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o'donnell lisa lynn
: What happened to your wonderful wolf .sig???
Change called, and thus a new .sig was born.... though the old may
return, in cyclic fashion.
Lisa
("I wonder if that made any sense......")
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Lisa!
What happened to your wonderful wolf .sig???
Howls -
Adam.
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Miles Arbogast
>
> .... werecows, wererabbits, weremice, and werehamsters are also
> welcome. <grin sluuurp!>
>
The lurker speaks...
Werehamsters, wererabbits, weremice...
sounds good. If their small enough they'd be the perfect perpetual
food source. Think about it. Eat one.Guarantee slow digestion. Get
all your nutrients. Swallow alot of air. It'd last a few days.
I could see the market potential.
<burp, damn hairballs>
Sorry.
My form is a huge wolf, big and tall. Black fur on my back,
fading to a salt-and-pepper gray on my sides and legs, and a white
belly and throat. My eyes are a rust brown and are hard to see into.
I first saw myself this way on a peyote induced vision quest. I was
standing in a forest alternating between puking and howling, while
watching a huge spirit wolf run *through* the trees and then run into
me and become part of me. Unfortunately, all of my transformations
have only been mental and not physical.
Wolf-that-Walks-Like-the-Bear
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The Concerned Illithid
> Regarding how were'felines' react to were'canines'...
> According to White Wolf and the Werewolf:Players' Guide (yah, I
> know, this is /really the place for it, but the question did come up,
> so... :) ) Bastet (were-kitties) aren't particularly all that fond of
> Garou. They mirror the stereotype of the 'classic cat'.. sleek, graceful,
> snobbish, with a
> 'if you don't want to treat me with the respect I deserve, then,
> I'll just
> ignore you and you can deal'
> attitude.
> according to the same source, the Garou feel about the same way about
> them. They are too high and mighty for their own good, have no morals
> (they even sleep with other Bastet *gasp*) and are basically nothing more
> than a pain in the rear.
Well, then, what are the opinions of the other (Non-Garou) weres towards
Kindred (That's vampires, for all you non-gamer types) and such?
Oh - I looked it up. the dictionary defined "Lycanthrope" as "Having
Lycanthropy"... Sheesh. "Lycanthropy" came up as "Beleiving one is able to
become a wolf"
Well, drat. We'll need a new word for the other Weres here...
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Elfchief's lifemate
Speaking for the were'kitties' as is my wont.. :)
Bastet aren't any more fond of vampires than the Garou are, as they (the
Bastet) are still children of Gaia and fight to protect Her. However,
they nderstand more about the workings of human society as hthey are
incurably curious and investigate everything and anything, especially
things that may be a benefit for themselves.
In other words, Baster will work with Kindred if they deem it
advantageous to themselves and see some reason to favor an alliance with
them. For which, again,alot of the Garou don't think to highly of them.
-Walker
Lucas Ehler
: Oh - I looked it up. the dictionary defined "Lycanthrope" as "Having
: Lycanthropy"... Sheesh. "Lycanthropy" came up as "Beleiving one is able to
: become a wolf"
: Well, drat. We'll need a new word for the other Weres here...
How's about shape-shifters? Sorta obvious, yet simple and honest, I give it
a 42, Dick. It's got a good beat, and I can really dance to it...
L
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-The Pretenders (Ok, well not QUITE a quote...but close...)
Mark Phaedrus
>The Concerned Illithid (conc...@melkor.com) wrote:
>: Oh - I looked it up. the dictionary defined "Lycanthrope" as "Having
>: Lycanthropy"... Sheesh. "Lycanthropy" came up as "Beleiving one is able to
>: become a wolf"
>: Well, drat. We'll need a new word for the other Weres here...
>How's about shape-shifters? Sorta obvious, yet simple and honest, I give it
>a 42, Dick. It's got a good beat, and I can really dance to it...
But "shapeshifters" covers too much ground; heck, any decent mage is a
shapeshifter...
"Theriomorphs" is the word I've heard used to describe the general class
of werecritters.
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Well, geez, thank you very much. Maybe the new version will satisfy
you a bit better, hmm, Mr. Cheer? You could at least have picked on
something obvious, like my misspelling "anthropomorphic"... :)
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Mark Phaedrus <phae...@halcyon.com> wrote:
> Well, geez, thank you very much. Maybe the new version will satisfy
>you a bit better, hmm, Mr. Cheer? You could at least have picked on
>something obvious, like my misspelling "anthropomorphic"... :)
Sorry, I was just kidding around. I seriously almost went into cardiac
arrest when that list scrolled across my screen... It kept going... and
going... and... *slaps himself*
Sorry. I am better now. *smiles*
Sheesh. I guess I am gonna have to check out this card game thing. :^)
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Timothy Fay
>
> But "shapeshifters" covers too much ground; heck, any decent mage is a
>shapeshifter...
> "Theriomorphs" is the word I've heard used to describe the general class
>of werecritters.
But wouldn't 'theriomorph' describe a creature that is simply part animal?
I think the term 'metamorph' is perhaps more accurate in describing a person
(or thing) that can transform into something else (e.g., 'cervine metamorph'
for were-deer, though I think the term 'shape-shifter' is okay, too :) ).
Paula Marie Bailey
>Mark Phaedrus (phae...@halcyon.com) wrote:
>>
>> But "shapeshifters" covers too much ground; heck, any decent mage is a
>>shapeshifter...
>> "Theriomorphs" is the word I've heard used to describe the general class
>>of werecritters.
>But wouldn't 'theriomorph' describe a creature that is simply part animal?
>I think the term 'metamorph' is perhaps more accurate in describing a person
>(or thing) that can transform into something else (e.g., 'cervine metamorph'
>for were-deer, though I think the term 'shape-shifter' is okay, too :) ).
Of course, that definition would also work for shapeshifters in Crinos
(or equivalent) form, as well as some types of shapeshifters (windigowak,
etc.)
BUT....I feel that a generic term for shapeshifters of all types is needed.
(Let's face it, for some shapeshifters there _is_ no general concensus
just _where_ they belong. Windigowak (_real_ windigowak, _not_ the clan)
have been classified as primate, canine, and feline (the latter is most
likely IMHO for reasons I won't get into at present), for example.)
Personally, I like either metamorph (theriomorph for those of us who
still show some of our animal nature) or shapeshifter.
(I wonder if one has ever attempted to do a classification of all metamorphic
beings, shapeshifters as well as theriomorphic beings...)
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>Mark Phaedrus (phae...@halcyon.com) wrote:
>>
>> But "shapeshifters" covers too much ground; heck, any decent mage is a
>>shapeshifter...
>> "Theriomorphs" is the word I've heard used to describe the general class
>>of werecritters.
>But wouldn't 'theriomorph' describe a creature that is simply part animal?
>I think the term 'metamorph' is perhaps more accurate in describing a person
>(or thing) that can transform into something else (e.g., 'cervine metamorph'
>for were-deer, though I think the term 'shape-shifter' is okay, too :) ).
Actually Gary Larson is a bovine metamorph. A were-cow.
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