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Brokken

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Jan 29, 1996, 3:00:00 AM1/29/96
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For those interested in wolf documentaries:

You can find listings for PBS programming (such as Nature, or National
Geographic) by logging into `PBS.org'. Just last night (Jan 28th) they
had a special called `In the Company of Wolves' with Timothy Dalton. The
show closes with Dalton and his guide approached by a pair of Arctic
Wolves and their cubs (Arctic Wolves to the best of my knowledge are the
only sub-species which has not developed an inherent fear of mankind).
The visuals are great and the sounds are equally good.

-Brokken-

Ste Calvert

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Jan 29, 1996, 3:00:00 AM1/29/96
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Hum, Brokken <gwi...@qntm.com> mentioned:

I remember watching that, it was on over here ( UK ITV ) nearly
a year ago now. I remember the closest he got to one was tranquillized
first, which was a bit sad, because the poor Wolf looked so pathetic.
Still couldn't stop myself being envious though! :)

Utlah.

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Brokken

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Jan 30, 1996, 3:00:00 AM1/30/96
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Darkwolf writes:
>
> ...And so just as Mech (the famous wolf-biologist who first studied Artic
> Wolves) feared, humans are exploiting that exact fact. Why can't they
> leave wolves alone? Or at least leave them to the wolf biologists to
> study, but not interfere with...

It appears the wolves approached the humans out of their own volition and
curiosity. And it is the people who produce documentaries that heighten
ecological awareness. I thought it was handled rather well.

-Brokken-

Jeffrey Tharp

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Jan 30, 1996, 3:00:00 AM1/30/96
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Brokken (gwi...@qntm.com) wrote:
: For those interested in wolf documentaries:

: You can find listings for PBS programming (such as Nature, or National
: Geographic) by logging into `PBS.org'. Just last night (Jan 28th) they
: had a special called `In the Company of Wolves' with Timothy Dalton. The
: show closes with Dalton and his guide approached by a pair of Arctic
: Wolves and their cubs (Arctic Wolves to the best of my knowledge are the
: only sub-species which has not developed an inherent fear of mankind).
: The visuals are great and the sounds are equally good.

: -Brokken-


...And so just as Mech (the famous wolf-biologist who first studied Artic
Wolves) feared, humans are exploiting that exact fact. Why can't they
leave wolves alone? Or at least leave them to the wolf biologists to
study, but not interfere with...

Growls,
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MegaDog

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In article <310D01...@qntm.com>, Brokken (gwi...@qntm.com) writes:
>For those interested in wolf documentaries:
>
>You can find listings for PBS programming (such as Nature, or National
>Geographic) by logging into `PBS.org'. Just last night (Jan 28th) they
>had a special called `In the Company of Wolves' with Timothy Dalton. The
>show closes with Dalton and his guide approached by a pair of Arctic
>Wolves and their cubs (Arctic Wolves to the best of my knowledge are the
>only sub-species which has not developed an inherent fear of mankind).
>The visuals are great and the sounds are equally good.

Personally I didn't think it was *that* good...

I *do* know that theres a rather good wolf-documentary being worked on by
Mike Salisbury of BBC Wildlife; he's been filming [in the company of
David Mech] in Wood Buffalo National Park (alaska? canada? I'm no
geographer!), where he's got film of wolves predating on buffalo.

In the rushes i've seen, the wolves drove a buffalo into a creek, from
which it could not escape due to the steep banks and the wolves jumping
on it every time it tried to climb out; the beast eventually tired of
its efforts and drowned, the wolves then did what wolves are rather good
at...

Theres also some good footage of wolves eating the carcase of buffalo
that had fallen through the ice of a frozen lake and remained submerged
until spring [when the thaw comes and the water warms, the buffalo's
stomach inflates with gas, they float up to the surface, and get carried
by currents to the edge of the lake, so the wolves get to dine on free
chilled meat!]

Not sure when the footage will be edited into a proper documentary for
broadcast; i'll have to have a quick word with a couple of people I know
who work for the Beeb and see what i can find out.

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Julie Heckman

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Jan 31, 1996, 3:00:00 AM1/31/96
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In article <4el97i$1...@hustle.rahul.net>,
Jeffrey Tharp <dark...@rahul.net> wrote:
>....And so just as Mech (the famous wolf-biologist who first studied Artic
>Wolves) feared, humans are exploiting that exact fact. Why can't they
>leave wolves alone? Or at least leave them to the wolf biologists to
>study, but not interfere with...
>Growls,
>darkwolf

Normally, I agree with you. But believe it or not, it's probably to the
wolves' benefit to seem "cute" and "acceptable" to mankind. It's the bad
press wolves have been getting for a thousand years that has caused man to
hunt them almost to extinction. But now, we've got the PBS and Discover
people out there filming them, bringing their strong pack and family "values"
and attitudes into homes. Then, when the call comes to threaten them, maybe
more people will think, "These really are precious animals, and we shouldn't
abuse them like that..." At least, that's the hope. :)

Erin Darknight

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Coyote Osborne

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Jan 31, 1996, 3:00:00 AM1/31/96
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In article <310D01...@qntm.com>, Brokken <gwi...@qntm.com> wrote:

> For those interested in wolf documentaries:
>
> You can find listings for PBS programming (such as Nature, or National
> Geographic) by logging into `PBS.org'. Just last night (Jan 28th) they
> had a special called `In the Company of Wolves' with Timothy Dalton. The
> show closes with Dalton and his guide approached by a pair of Arctic
> Wolves and their cubs (Arctic Wolves to the best of my knowledge are the
> only sub-species which has not developed an inherent fear of mankind).
> The visuals are great and the sounds are equally good.

I've seen that one. It was great except that Dalton wouldn't shut his
stupid mouth. What a twit. At least he means well, but the road to hell...

Anyway, it was really funny, I suppose. t'shai says that David Mech (the
naturalist with the beard) and I kept rolling our eyes at the same time
when Dalton would say something moronic : )

But like I say, you could see he meant well. : )

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Brokken

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Coyote Osborne writes:

> I've seen that one. It was great except that Dalton wouldn't shut his
> stupid mouth. What a twit. At least he means well, but the road to hell...

Really? I thought he made a decent Bond.



> Anyway, it was really funny, I suppose. t'shai says that David Mech (the
> naturalist with the beard) and I kept rolling our eyes at the same time
> when Dalton would say something moronic : )
>
> But like I say, you could see he meant well. : )

I wasn't too keen on the parts that focused on Bon...er I mean Dalton and Mech.
Their presence was incidental at best. Taken as a whole, I thought it was a
worth-while endeavor. As Erin Darknight pointed out they heighten viewer
awareness. Ecological thought is the game. These documentaries are sometimes the
only means to `educate' people. Given the massive amount of time the average
person dedicates to TV watching, it is also by far the best dissemination
medium.

:)


-Brokken-

Coyote Osborne

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Jan 31, 1996, 3:00:00 AM1/31/96
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In article <4el97i$1...@hustle.rahul.net>, Jeffrey Tharp
<dark...@rahul.net> wrote:

> ...And so just as Mech (the famous wolf-biologist who first studied Artic
> Wolves) feared, humans are exploiting that exact fact. Why can't they
> leave wolves alone? Or at least leave them to the wolf biologists to
> study, but not interfere with...
> Growls,

Didn't Adolph Murie study them ages ago in the 40's on Isle Royale? I think so.

Though Mech has raised captive wolves rescued as pups. So maybe he got
closer in some ways : )

Jeffrey Tharp

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Feb 1, 1996, 3:00:00 AM2/1/96
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Coyote Osborne (styg...@shadow.net) wrote:
: In article <4el97i$1...@hustle.rahul.net>, Jeffrey Tharp
: <dark...@rahul.net> wrote:

: > ...And so just as Mech (the famous wolf-biologist who first studied Artic
: > Wolves) feared, humans are exploiting that exact fact. Why can't they
: > leave wolves alone? Or at least leave them to the wolf biologists to
: > study, but not interfere with...
: > Growls,

: Didn't Adolph Murie study them ages ago in the 40's on Isle Royale? I think so.

: Though Mech has raised captive wolves rescued as pups. So maybe he got
: closer in some ways : )

: Coyote

Actually, the wolves on Isle Royale are timberwolves, whereas artic
wolves tend to be farther north. Mech, accompanied by the photographer
Jim Brandenburg (another favorite of mine!), were the first to encounter
these wolves of the High Artic, which are more unsuspecting of humans.
Mech found this trait to be particularly useful in studying their
behavior at close range, often difficult for timberwolves due to their
skill in eluding human researchers. However, Mech also worried that his
research, and the documentary he made of the wolves for National
Geographic would open them to exploitation by others, eventually ruining
the oppertunities for study, to say nothing of ruining the wolves
themselves.
Howls,

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