Ardois-Bonnot
Clore
In "The Call of Cthulhu" Lovecraft makes mention of a painter named
Ardois Bonnot. Now, Bonnot was the name of an Illegalist anarchist
active in the 1910s, who headed the "Bonnot Gang" of bankrobbers.
Does anyone know of an "Ardois" from this period, perhaps another
anarchist Lovecraft would have seen reference to in the news?
I would appreciate any information you can give, especially book or
magazine references.
Dan Clore
cl...@columbia-center.org
Timothy Sutter
fire ant collective wrote:
>
> AP OCT 1996
> Unborn Chicken militia strikes-
> A masked militia leader calling himself 'SubCommandante Foghorn
> Leghorn' held a press conference thursday afternoon after a series of
> violent demonstrations disrupted daily dairy shopping at several area
> supermarkets. Representing a group called 'CORECT' or Concerned
> Organization of the Righteous Embryios of Christian Tolerance, mr Leghorn
> briefed reporters on his vision of a society safe for embryos of all
> species, and answered questions for half an hour, before being led away by
> police.
This is good. (Your gonna get my opinion whether you like it or not.)
I see an underlying theme that is well disguised.
> Militant CORECT demonstrators were seen at a nearby LUCKY's
> supermarket this morning waving anti-egg signs, harranging egg shoppers,
> and waving grizly placards depicting broken eggs, boiled, fried, and
> scrambled egg's, as well as the infamous and bloody 'partial birth egg's,
> with a recognizable streak of bloody fetus meat inside.
> "Every day billions of unborn chickens are ruthlessly
> slaughtered and even devoured by ignorant, satanic American citizens. It
> is time our government put a stop to this genocide." Calling for a
> Constitutional amendment against the premature slaughter of unborn chicken
> embryos, mr Leghorn became irate when a reporter from the San Jose daily
> news questioned him about links between Egg production and CIA Contra
> "Black Ops' during the 80's.
> "The millions of American children who have become addicted to
> high cholesterol egg products are being recruited into the Army of Satan.
> But Satan does not need the CIA to do it's dirty work." Nevertheless
> allegations have surfaced linking CORECT to clandestine egg and narcotics
> smuggling rings throughout the Southern California region, funded by a
> shadowy network of Indonesian and Red Chinese financiers, as well as
> corrupt Arkansas poultry giant, Tyson foods.
> Undaunted by media speculation of conspiracy and rackateering
> links, CORECT demonstrators staged an even larger demonstration later in
> the afernoon at a nearby Safeway. Several scuffles broke out between
> CORECT demonstrators and shoppers. "What the f**ck is wrong with these
> stupid ass***les, I want to bake a cake!" said one disgruntled shopper.
> Store managers were equally confused 'These are sterile eggs, none of
> these eggs could ever grow up to be chickens. These people are insane'
> opined one bewildered Safeway employee. He was overheard by a nearby
> CORECT militant however, who stuck a large photograph of a bloody,
> 'partial birth egg' in his face, crying "what about this!? Huh? What
> about this!!!" and then struck him in the side of the head several times
> with brass knuckles, rendering him unconscious. After several CORECT
maybe dead. brass knuckles are hard.
> demonstrators handcuffed themselves to the dairy case, other CORECT
> protestors made a vain attempt to free the eggs, rolling several dozen out
> of the front door of the Safeway, where they promptly fell off the curb
> and broke. Clearly shaken, but with determination in his eyes, Sub
> Commandante Leghorn cried
> "Fear not little yellow brothers, for we have not yet begun to
> fight!!
> Dateline San Fransisco, Oct 24 1996. Drifter "Bob" reporting
> for AP (Ant Press) news
> !"
Maybe you could throw in a MORK from ORK thing here somehow.
fire ant collective
AP OCT 1996
Unborn Chicken militia strikes-
A masked militia leader calling himself 'SubCommandante Foghorn
Leghorn' held a press conference thursday afternoon after a series of
violent demonstrations disrupted daily dairy shopping at several area
supermarkets. Representing a group called 'CORECT' or Concerned
Organization of the Righteous Embryios of Christian Tolerance, mr Leghorn
briefed reporters on his vision of a society safe for embryos of all
species, and answered questions for half an hour, before being led away by
police.
Jason Thompson
Clore (cl...@columbia-center.org) wrote:
: In "The Call of Cthulhu" Lovecraft makes mention of a painter named
: Ardois Bonnot. Now, Bonnot was the name of an Illegalist anarchist
: active in the 1910s, who headed the "Bonnot Gang" of bankrobbers.
:
: Does anyone know of an "Ardois" from this period, perhaps another
: anarchist Lovecraft would have seen reference to in the news?
CTHULHU. It's one of Lovecraft's few mentions of things French, I think.
Jason Thompson
Knygathin Zhaum
Derek Smyk
In article <54n5an$b...@nadine.teleport.com> nen...@teleport.com (NENSLO) writes:
>From: nen...@teleport.com (NENSLO)
>Subject: Re: Ardois-Bonnot
>Date: 24 Oct 1996 07:19:51 GMT
> He made all that stuff up. They were just stories that he made up
>out of his head. None of it really happened. FICTION is what it was.
>The guy was kind of a nut, and thought differently from a lot of folks,
>but all that stuff was just fantasy. Got it?
> Glad I could help.
> Nenslo
Um, Nenslo, I think the question is actually valid - I just started rereading
the story this morning, and added the artist's name to the list of things to
look up. Yes, Lovecraft made a lot of names, places, and books up, but he
also borrowed a lot. I think it's perfectly valid to ask whether certain
elements existed.
Now, if anyone else claims that the Necronomicon is real, I'll join you in
knocking some sense into them...
Derek
John T. Bryant Jr.
>In article <54n5an$b...@nadine.teleport.com> nen...@teleport.com (NENSLO) writes:
>Now, if anyone else claims that the Necronomicon is real,
Better known as the Angrisi Veda. Hard book to find, though. ;)
-DDK
Hal Phillips
The same Jason Thompson of ROMANTIC TALES fame?
bo...@vax1.mankato.msus.edu
In article <smyk.56....@bn1.baynet.net>, sm...@bn1.baynet.net (Derek Smyk)
writes:
> In article <54n5an$b...@nadine.teleport.com> nen...@teleport.com (NENSLO)
writes:
>>From: nen...@teleport.com (NENSLO)
>> He made all that stuff up. They were just stories that he made up
>>out of his head. None of it really happened. FICTION is what it was.
>>The guy was kind of a nut, and thought differently from a lot of folks,
>>but all that stuff was just fantasy. Got it?
> Um, Nenslo, I think the question is actually valid - I just started rereading
> the story this morning, and added the artist's name to the list of things to
> look up. Yes, Lovecraft made a lot of names, places, and books up, but he
> also borrowed a lot.
I'll second that. I've spent the last two years looking up the real people and
historical events that Lovecraft included in his stories. The result is a
timeline of nearly 100k bytes which will hopefully show up in print someday.
(sound of tooting own horn)
Guy Bock
"G'day mate, grab a space meade and toss another Mi-go on the barbie"
--Azathoth Dundee
Adam Ness
On 24 Oct 1996, NENSLO wrote:
> : Does anyone know of an "Ardois" from this period, perhaps another
> : anarchist Lovecraft would have seen reference to in the news?
>
> : I would appreciate any information you can give, especially book or
> : magazine references.
>
> He made all that stuff up. They were just stories that he made up
> out of his head. None of it really happened. FICTION is what it was.
> The guy was kind of a nut, and thought differently from a lot of folks,
> but all that stuff was just fantasy. Got it?
Authors don't just randomly pluck names out of thin air... If they
did, your favorite stories would probably be filled with Bob Jones' and
Jim Smiths. Frequently the Author chooses a name from popular
contemporary sources and modifys it a bit. Just because it is fiction
doesn't mean it has absolutely no ties to reality. If it did, there would
be nothing in the story to relate to.
Adam Ness <ne...@scf.usc.edu> running Linux, a free 64bit OS
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The Moon is Waning Gibbous (100% of Full)
Clore
NENSLO wrote:
>
> Clore (cl...@columbia-center.org) wrote:
> : In "The Call of Cthulhu" Lovecraft makes mention of a painter named
> : Ardois Bonnot. Now, Bonnot was the name of an Illegalist anarchist
> : active in the 1910s, who headed the "Bonnot Gang" of bankrobbers.
>
> : anarchist Lovecraft would have seen reference to in the news?
>
> : I would appreciate any information you can give, especially book or
> : magazine references.
>
> He made all that stuff up. They were just stories that he made up
> out of his head. None of it really happened. FICTION is what it was.
> The guy was kind of a nut, and thought differently from a lot of folks,
> but all that stuff was just fantasy. Got it?
>
> Nenslo
Revelations for the Nen-master from the Cloracle: Lovecraft made up his
story, yes. He made up the painter named Ardois-Bonnot too, yes. But
the name Bonnot came from a figure in the news at the time (or a little
before). The name Ardois may equally have come from a figure of the
time. Such was my query; Ardois-Bonnot's name may combine two real
names--since one name at least is real. Still looking for real
information on the subject.
Dan Clore
cl...@columbia-center.org
bo...@vax1.mankato.msus.edu
In article <54p9ad$g...@bolt.sonic.net>, ja...@sonic.net (Jason Thompson) writes:
> Clore (cl...@columbia-center.org) wrote:
> : In "The Call of Cthulhu" Lovecraft makes mention of a painter named
> : Ardois Bonnot. Now, Bonnot was the name of an Illegalist anarchist
> : active in the 1910s, who headed the "Bonnot Gang" of bankrobbers.
> :
> : Does anyone know of an "Ardois" from this period, perhaps another
> : anarchist Lovecraft would have seen reference to in the news?
> CTHULHU. It's one of Lovecraft's few mentions of things French, I think.
Hmm. Lemmesee. French references:
In "The Shunned House" the Paris Parliment saves guy found in woods covered
with blood and tatters of human flesh from buring at stake.
In "The Case of Charles Dexter Ward" the cathedral in Haute-Vienne is supposed
to have had something nasty in a Roman crypt beneath it. Reference is also
made to the Black Man of the Haute-Vienne. Also, on his European trip, C.D.
Ward stops at the Bibliotech Nationale, home of a 17th(?) century copy of the
Necronomicon. One of the authors mentioned, Remigius, is French. I think.
In "The Shadow Out of Time" Peaslee meets an aged Frenchman who was alive in
Louis XIIIth's time. Or was that XIVth?
In "The Silver Key" Randolph Carter is wounded in a French village
(Beloy-en-Santare?) during the Great War when he served in the French Foreign
Legion.
In "Herbert West--Reanimator" Dr. West fights in the war, but I'm not sure
France is mentioned specifically.
French-Canadians are mentioned in one of the stories. Possibly "Shadow Over
Innsmouth" or "The Colour Out of Space?"
In "Pickman's Model" the gargoyles of Notre Dame are mentioned.
In "The Rats in the Walls" the de la Poer family sounds French or at least
Norman. Oh, here's a referece that's really strechting it: Paris Green is laid
out to catch the rats.
Is there a French reference in "The Hound" or is that just Holland?
(Slaps forehead) DUH! "The Music of Erich Zann"
These are just from memory. Any ones I missed?
Guy Bock
"Nyarly, look at this planet! It's filthy! You could have at least dusted
while I was away!"
--Cthulhu
Tommy the Terrorist
In article <326DD2...@columbia-center.org> Clore,
cl...@columbia-center.org writes:
>Does anyone know of an "Ardois" from this period, perhaps another
>anarchist Lovecraft would have seen reference to in the news?
A search of the Encyclopedia Brittanica's proprietary service at
http://www.eb.com/ (there are *advantages* to being a scumbag leeching
off a state-subsidized account, because who actually goes through the
trouble of subscribing to stuff like this, when you use it for such
trivia? B) reveals that "Artois" is the name for a broad region of
northern France, named after some group of people in ancient times whose
name is spelled in only a vaguely similar way. As a result, when I look
on http://www.altavista.digital.com/, it's no surprise that lots of
references to people named "D'Ardois" show up.
My guess is that Lovecraft was just thinking of French-sounding words
that came to mind, and the one was a common French component of a name,
and the other was someone he had once heard a news story about. No
prominent anarchists come up as far as I can tell.
If you really insist I could go in and cut-and-paste some further
information, but since nothing very interesting exactly matches the
spelling it seems like a broad and pointless task.
Timothy Sutter
Tommy the Terrorist wrote:
> In article <326DD2...@columbia-center.org> Clore,
> cl...@columbia-center.org writes:
> >Does anyone know of an "Ardois" from this period, perhaps another
> >anarchist Lovecraft would have seen reference to in the news?
D'Artagnan, the fourth musketeer,
also the fifth beatle. The angel of the
bottomless Pete. Exterminance.
The Omnipotent Philosopher
Hello, testing...1,2,3 Is this thing on? Satan speaketh:
> "Every day billions of unborn chickens are ruthlessly
>slaughtered and even devoured by ignorant, satanic American citizens. It
>is time our government put a stop to this genocide."
> "The millions of American children who have become addicted to
>high cholesterol egg products are being recruited into the Army of Satan.
>But Satan does not need the CIA to do it's dirty work."
> "Fear not little yellow brothers, for we have not yet begun to
>fight!!
>Satan
>"I twisteth everything, makin good look bad and bad look good. I am older
>and more wise than you. You will obey me with the garbage that I feed you."
Christophe Thill
On 25 Oct 96 00:14:09 GMT, bry...@nickel.ucs.indiana.edu (John T.
Bryant Jr.) wrote:
>In <smyk.56....@bn1.baynet.net> sm...@bn1.baynet.net (Derek Smyk) writes:
>>In article <54n5an$b...@nadine.teleport.com> nen...@teleport.com (NENSLO) writes:
>>Now, if anyone else claims that the Necronomicon is real,
>
>Better known as the Angrisi Veda. Hard book to find, though. ;)
Oh no, not again! Well, the Veda, why not... Isn't this the only
origin that had not yet been given for the "real" Necronomicon? Bit I
can imagine a few other ones:
- the engraved wood plates from Easter Island
- the legendary "Book of Thoth", from ancient Egypt
- alchemy treaties: Hermes Trismegistus, for instance
- the Popol Vuh, sacred book of the ancient Mayas
- the tibetan Book of the Dead
- ... and the egyptian one, too: why not?
- the lost complete works of a Greek philosopher. Pythagoras would be
just fine, wouldn't he?
Sorry, I give up. You can try on if you wish. The best ideas will win
my warmest congratulations.
Christophe Thill - Paris, France
c_t...@worldnet.fr
ArKa/D/ia! Homepage: http://www.worldnet.fr/~c_thill/
HP Lovecraft page: http://www.worldnet.fr/~c_thill/hpl/
Frater Calamari
Christophe Thill wrote:
>
<clip)
> Oh no, not again! Well, the Veda, why not... Isn't this the only
> origin that had not yet been given for the "real" Necronomicon? Bit I
> can imagine a few other ones:
>
> - the engraved wood plates from Easter Island
> - the legendary "Book of Thoth", from ancient Egypt
> - alchemy treaties: Hermes Trismegistus, for instance
> - the Popol Vuh, sacred book of the ancient Mayas
> - the tibetan Book of the Dead
> - ... and the egyptian one, too: why not?
> - the lost complete works of a Greek philosopher. Pythagoras would be
> just fine, wouldn't he?
>
> Sorry, I give up. You can try on if you wish. The best ideas will win
> my warmest congratulations.
>
the latest one I heard of is that it was a translation of the Dr. Dee's
Enochian (sp?) squares (or whatever they were called)
I only saw the book once, and it detailed how H.P. could have heard of
them, as well as an even more detailed analysis of how the authors broke
the code themselves. If anyone has heard of this book, please respond, I
want to get it, it was a laugh... :-)
FC
Per Persson
In article <32738285...@news.sct.fr>,
Christophe Thill <c_t...@worldnet.fr> wrote:
>- the tibetan Book of the Dead
>- ... and the egyptian one, too: why not?
Because it's to easy to get your hands on the Egyptian Book of the Dead.
HARMSDM
From: Frater Calamari <cala...@nh.ultranet.com>
>the latest one I heard of is that it was a translation of the Dr. Dee's
>Enochian (sp?) squares (or whatever they were called)
>I only saw the book once, and it detailed how H.P. could have heard of
>them, as well as an even more detailed analysis of how the authors broke
>the code themselves. If anyone has heard of this book, please respond, I
>want to get it, it was a laugh... :-)
That would be _The Necronomicon: The Book of Dead Names_ edited
by John Hay and most recently published in paperback by Skoob Esoterica.
I have a rather interesting article in which Wilson admits that the
book is a hoax and describes how it developed.
Daniel
Peter Miller
> Militant CORECT demonstrators were seen at a nearby LUCKY's
>supermarket this morning waving anti-egg signs, harranging egg shoppers,
>and waving grizly placards depicting broken eggs, boiled, fried, and
>scrambled egg's, as well as the infamous and bloody 'partial birth egg's,
>with a recognizable streak of bloody fetus meat inside.
AAAHHH! SHUT THE FUCK UP! SHUT THE FUCK UP!!!!! <Shudder!>
[Some time later]
Sorry about that; I have a terrible fear of cracking open an egg one
day to find just that- makes my skin crawl just thinking about it.
Could anyone else who replies this thread please trim
alt.horror.cthulhu out of the Newsgroups list? Thanks.
Peter
Gregory Loren Hansen
In article <32799147...@news.demon.co.uk>,
This seems a little more than the usual irony.
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P Gauthier
NENSLO (nen...@teleport.com) wrote:
: Clore (cl...@columbia-center.org) wrote:
: : In "The Call of Cthulhu" Lovecraft makes mention of a painter named
: : Ardois Bonnot. Now, Bonnot was the name of an Illegalist anarchist
: : active in the 1910s, who headed the "Bonnot Gang" of bankrobbers.
:
: : anarchist Lovecraft would have seen reference to in the news?
: : I would appreciate any information you can give, especially book or
: : magazine references.
:
: He made all that stuff up. They were just stories that he made up
: out of his head. None of it really happened. FICTION is what it was.
: The guy was kind of a nut, and thought differently from a lot of folks,
: but all that stuff was just fantasy. Got it?
:
: Glad I could help.
: Nenslo
You're basically right, but like any writer, Lovecraft did not work in a
vacuum. He got ideas, names etc. from real things. He probably read the
name in a newspaper somewhere and thought it was cool.
An interesting thing about Lovecraft I read was that, though he was a
complete athiest, he did do a lot of research into cults and religions.
For example, Dagon, who figures in his early writings, and sorta
transmorgifies into Cthulhu, was real. And a lot of the stuff on New
England witchcraft was crafted from Lovecraft's researches. That was part
of how he created a whole fantasy world which has so much verisimilitude.
And, it always bugs me when people dismiss a writer as "just a nut." Then
again, I suppose everyone who thinks differently from most people is a
nut. If they're crazy, you can dismiss them with ease.
This is actually a political issue. Writing -- and art -- and politics are
inextricibly connected.....
Christophe Thill
On 29 Oct 1996 16:58:24 GMT, HAR...@ctrvx1.Vanderbilt.Edu (HARMSDM)
wrote:
John Hay? Like the library? I thought it was George Hay :-)
The other people involved were Robert Turner and David Langford, as
well as Colin Wilson, as you confirm. I had the book for a while. The
nicest part of it is a series of "facsimiles" from Dr Dee's edition.
Also a few criticism articles. And the ones explaining how the "code"
had been "broken". And the poorest bit: the supposed translation
itself. You know, always the same ravings about the Old Ones, some
taken from Lovecraft, others that could have been written by
Derleth... I was so disappointed when I discovered that this couldn't
be the "real" Necronomicon! Don't blame me, it was some years ago, I
was still young...
There is an online version of it. It's listed in Donovan Loucks' links
page:
http://www.primenet.com/~ottinge/n.html
For those who have time to lose!