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Theo Paijmans

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May 29, 2002, 7:35:32 PM5/29/02
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Hello all,

I was wondering... what would be the most inaccesible, obscure mythos
story that was ever published?

Kind regards,

Theo

RobStoll

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May 29, 2002, 8:38:51 PM5/29/02
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Theo Paijmans th.pa...@wxs.nl asked:

>I was wondering... what would be the most inaccesible, obscure mythos
>story that was ever published?

You mean besides anything by Doctah Pussay? :)

Seriously, I'm not sure how you'd even define this question. There are a lot of
vanity press mythos magazines and websites that have lots of stories in them.
Or do you mean something that would have appeared in, say, Weird Tales and
never got reprinted? I'm not sure that the question as you've phrased it can
even be answered.

How about something like "Message in a Bottle" by John Tynes, printed in issue
#1 of The Unspeakable Oath magazine. Not reprinted to my knowledge. Does that
help? Could you find it if it does?

Why do you ask?

Robert

ScarLip

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May 30, 2002, 1:43:12 AM5/30/02
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Life and Death by HP Lovecraft

ScarLip

james ambuehl

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May 30, 2002, 1:50:07 AM5/30/02
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Hmm . . . well, things I've been looking for / would like to see
re-published, are, in no certain order:

"Adept's Gambit" by Fritz Leiber, the original Mythos version

The dozen or so early Karl Edward Wagner Mythos tales said to be written
by him pre-Kane
era

The dozen or so unpublished August Derleth / Mark Schorer collaborations
I've heard rumors of exisiting

The dozen or so John Glasby stories I do actually have Manuscript copies
of in my collection, done into a nice hard-bound edition, and his
Cthugha Trilogy of novels, of course (which he's probably still working
on)

Ditto the Walt DeBill collection from Chaosium, I believe. One of the
best Mythos writers ever, such greats as "The Barrett Horror";
"Collector's Piece" and "Dwells He Who Often Calls" shouldn't languish
unpublished forever!

CRY OF CTHULHU, the unpublished novel for the aborted movie back in the
70's -- the excerpted bit, "The Alchemist's Notebook," was a lot of fun!

Adrian Cole's "Collector's Piece," a very hard-to-find Mythos story.
And add to this list David Malpass' "The Therianthropus Fragment," and
Roger Johnson's "From the Desert". And add the projected booklet
(published or not?) FUNGI FROM THE MOUNTAINS by Robert J. Curran (the
most Lovecraft-like writer I've had the pleasure ever to read!)

Those Yuggoth-set stories from the Australian magazine FUTURISTIC, with
titles like: "The Basalt Temple"; "At The Portals of Pluto" and anoter I
can't recall

More of the Ausralian stuff -- I've a list of stories that were printed
in the magazines PROHIBITED MATTER and AVATAR and the titles are quite
intriguing indeed! And a complete set of the Australian EOD Newsletter
would be cool too, with classics by Chris Masters, P. J. Roberts and
David Tansey

Oh, and add to that Brian Lumley's missing early stories, like "Dracula
VS the Burrowers" and "The Crystal Thing" and "Nitre"

I'll also add the Wolfgang Hohlbein collection of a dozen or so German
novels, all translated into English, of course.

I know, not bloody likely on most of these -- but still I can dream,
can't I? ;-)

-- Jim


"Currently she was standing in the middle of what appeared to be his
TARDIS library. But it was a library of the evil and the arcane, where
the godless 'Necronomicon' was sandwiched between those terrible works
'Liber Inducens in Evangelium Aeternum' and 'The Black Scrolls of
Rassilon'. Where the infamous 'Book of Vile' and its Black Appendix sat
next to 'The Ambuehl Lores' and the wretched 'Insidium of Astrolabus'
.."

-- THE QUANTUM ARCHANGEL by Craig Hinton


james ambuehl

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May 30, 2002, 2:09:29 AM5/30/02
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Just thought of a few more to add:

A collection of the "Wicked Willie" stories by Brian McNaughton, as I
understand it, Willie is a dirty old man janitor at Miskatonic
University, or somehing like that.

While we're at it, Brian's TIDE OF DESIRE, as by "Sheena Clayton," said
to be a Mythos Romance wit Deep Ones!

Those Hieronymus Kitsch booklets listed on Locus (www.locusmag.com), THE
HEART OF R'LYEH and TALES OF THE OUTRE or whatever it is

Howard Waldrop's "Cthulhublanca" screenplay, printed only in a
Convention Program Book, according to Locus

That DC COMICS ELSEWORLDS 80-page Giant, which had a Cthulhoid Batman
story in it which sounded very cool indeed! "The Reaching Hand," I
think it was called

And last, but certainly not least . . . a collection of the remaining
early Mark Rainey stories I'm yet missing (but thankfully THE LAST
TRUMPET helped me to catch up almost completely; and the novel BALAK is
also not to be missed!) -- I still need a few, Mark! Any chance you
could help? ;-)

klar...@tiscali.se

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May 30, 2002, 8:50:40 AM5/30/02
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"ScarLip" <ScarLip@n...> skrev i meddelandet news:3cf5bbac.1426259@n....
> On 30 May 2002 00:38:51 GMT, robstoll@a... (RobStoll) wrote:
>
> >Theo Paijmans th.paijmans@w... asked:

> >
> >>I was wondering... what would be the most inaccesible, obscure mythos
> >>story that was ever published?
> >
> >You mean besides anything by Doctah Pussay? :)
> >
> >Seriously, I'm not sure how you'd even define this question. There are a
lot of
> >vanity press mythos magazines and websites that have lots of stories in
them.
> >Or do you mean something that would have appeared in, say, Weird Tales
and
> >never got reprinted? I'm not sure that the question as you've phrased it
can
> >even be answered.
> >
> >How about something like "Message in a Bottle" by John Tynes, printed in
issue
> >#1 of The Unspeakable Oath magazine. Not reprinted to my knowledge. Does
that
> >help? Could you find it if it does?
> >
> >Why do you ask?
> >
> >Robert
> >
>
> Life and Death by HP Lovecraft
>
> ScarLip

Yes, that would surely be a nice, but it wasn't a Mythos story, was it?
According to Joshi's theories, and judging from the story seed in "The
Commonplace Book", it was more a prose-poem kind of thing. But then again,
nobody knows.


Alan Rodgers

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May 30, 2002, 7:40:09 PM5/30/02
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On Thu, 30 May 2002 01:09:29 -0500 (CDT), jamesa...@webtv.net
(james ambuehl) wrote:

> Just thought of a few more to add:

> A collection of the "Wicked Willie" stories by Brian McNaughton, as I
> understand it, Willie is a dirty old man janitor at Miskatonic
> University, or somehing like that.

> While we're at it, Brian's TIDE OF DESIRE, as by "Sheena Clayton," said
> to be a Mythos Romance wit Deep Ones!

Hi! I'm Brian's editor at Wildside. "Wicked W----" (I'd
swear it was Walter, but you may be right, it's in that pile -->
there, and I don't feel like digging). Wicked Walter is in the
works, as is Tide of Desire. Brian's digging up the original
ending (it was bwdlerized in the most godawful way in the
original printing); I've been trying to persuade him to rewrite
the damned thing and get done with it.

Both will probably be hardcovers in the next year or two.

Alan Rodgers

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May 30, 2002, 7:45:31 PM5/30/02
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BTW, word of our books is sometimes slow to get around. But
we do a weekly email newsletter via yahoogroups, and regularly
feature titles from folks like Brian and Mark Rainey. (LWE too,
if he's still around here.) Folks from here are certainly
welcome to subscribe.

Mark Rainey

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May 30, 2002, 7:57:30 PM5/30/02
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Hey Jim,

Wildside's hardback collection of my stories LEGENDS OF THE NIGHT has a
mythos piece or two. It's kinda expensive but Amazon is currently running a
substantial discount on the cover price. Info at
http://home.triad.rr.com/smrainey/legends.htm. You can click on the book
cover graphic and it'll take you right to the Amazon site.

Also -- the latest issue of THE SPOOK (www.thespook.com), which is
downloadable for free in .pdf format, features my story "The Sparklers,"
which has a dreamlands connection.

--Mark
http://home.triad.rr.com/smrainey
Check out my newest story, "Epiphany: A Flying Tiger's Story" in DarkTales'
DEAD BUT DREAMING anthology. http://www.darktales.com


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james ambuehl

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May 30, 2002, 9:30:52 PM5/30/02
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Thanks, Alan Rodgers, for the info! Wildside does produce some nice
stuff (I have BALAK and THE LAST TRUMPET -- both by Mr. Rainey). Great
stuff, and nice to see the TRUMPET volume revised a bit, since I had
nearly all of it already -- but the idea of revised Rainey cassics is
even better! ;-)

You do some nice fiction yourself, Alan: "Her Misbegotten Son" in
MISKATONIC UNIVERSITY and I especially loved "Van Brunt and Visitation"
in either THE UFO FILES or THE CONSPIRACY FILES. The beastie in that,
though unnamed, reminded me of Shub-Niggurath, I seem to recall. And
then there's your award-winning "The Boy Who Came Back From the Dead,"
which I read ages ago.

I already had the Carlyle McNaughton novels though -- still,
newly-revised editions of the novels do make me curious to see them.
Already have all the NASTY STORIES Mythos tales though. I'll definitely
keep an eye on upcoming Wildside Press volumes!

But anyway, I wanted to ask: just what is the name or sign up URL of
that Newsletter you mention? I'd certainly like to subscribe.

Peter Worthy

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May 31, 2002, 9:28:33 AM5/31/02
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Hi Group,

Just to say that some Walter C. DeBill, Jr. material is appearing in
upcoming editions of "The Black Book". Also, I think there is a book
forthcoming with all his Mythos work in. I'll be sure to mention it in the
editorial once I have more details as Jim is right and Walt's work shouldn't
be forgotten.

Also, I highly recommend Mark Rainey's "The Last Trumpet" - see my 'monthly
must have' review at:
http://www.geocities.com/athens/forum/4162/trumpet.html

Regards,

Peter


Mark Gibson

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Jun 5, 2002, 6:12:20 PM6/5/02
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Well once I published a mythos-related story on the net and I never
received a single comment or reply, so it couldn't have been very good. I
think that ualifies as the most obscure mythos story ever. It was called
"The Supreme Penalty".

Mark

james ambuehl

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Jun 5, 2002, 7:20:45 PM6/5/02
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Hi Mark Gibson,

Is "The Supreme Penalty" on the Net somewhere now? I'd certainly like
to read it, and will surely comment upon it, if you like. ;-)

William Meikle

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Jun 6, 2002, 5:06:31 AM6/6/02
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Mark Gibson <mgi...@vcn.bc.ca> wrote in article <adm2c4$jg7$2...@luna.vcn.bc.ca>...

I sold one a few years back to a Scottish small press mag "Midnight in Hell" that never got published (as far as I know, although
if somebody comes across a story about Yog-Sototh emerging in a Fife winter landscape I'd like to know), I lost my only copy
(pre-PC days, it was paper only), and I can't remember the title. Hows that for obscure?

Willie
http://www.willie.meikle.btinternet.co.uk

Alan Rodgers

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Jun 7, 2002, 4:29:47 PM6/7/02
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On Thu, 30 May 2002 20:30:52 -0500 (CDT), jamesa...@webtv.net
(james ambuehl) wrote:

> Thanks, Alan Rodgers, for the info! Wildside does produce some nice
> stuff (I have BALAK and THE LAST TRUMPET -- both by Mr. Rainey). Great
> stuff, and nice to see the TRUMPET volume revised a bit, since I had
> nearly all of it already -- but the idea of revised Rainey cassics is
> even better! ;-)

Thanks! Our tastes coincide; those are all my titles you
mention (here and below).

> You do some nice fiction yourself, Alan: "Her Misbegotten Son" in
> MISKATONIC UNIVERSITY

Awww, gee.

> and I especially loved "Van Brunt and Visitation"
> in either THE UFO FILES or THE CONSPIRACY FILES. The beastie in that,
> though unnamed, reminded me of Shub-Niggurath, I seem to recall.

There's a whole novel full of that stuff -- not sure what
I'll do with it. (If I croak suddenly, remind my heirs -- it's
finished, and not especially under submission.)

> And
> then there's your award-winning "The Boy Who Came Back From the Dead,"
> which I read ages ago.

Thanks again.

> I already had the Carlyle McNaughton novels though -- still,
> newly-revised editions of the novels do make me curious to see them.
> Already have all the NASTY STORIES Mythos tales though. I'll definitely
> keep an eye on upcoming Wildside Press volumes!

There's a great review of BUSTER CALLAN (formerly THE
POACHER) in PW -- Amazon's got the text of the review up. It's
about as close as PW comes to committing a rave.

> But anyway, I wanted to ask: just what is the name or sign up URL of
> that Newsletter you mention? I'd certainly like to subscribe.

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Wildside_Press_Newsletter/

Oh, BTW, of interest to folks here: I'm in process of going
through SUPERBNATURAL HORROR IN ITERATURE and reissuing
wonderfully hoary old texts. The titles have begun to show up on
places like Amazon.

Alan Rodgers

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Jun 7, 2002, 4:50:12 PM6/7/02
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Hmmm. Just saw that I've been using an email address that's
been dead for a year. Oops.

Mark Rainey

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Jun 9, 2002, 12:10:10 PM6/9/02
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Hey Jim,

Re: the email you sent me a few days ago: my reply (which I sent to both of
your supplied addresses) was bounced back. Let me know when the boxes are
cleared....

--Mark

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