Setting an Omega Seamaster Quartz ??
GSI COMP
advance the date. The day and date advance together at midnight. Here's the
twist, when you pull out the crown and turn it, only the hour hand moves and it
jumps to stay in sync with the position of the minute hand. The watch runs
great and keeps perfect time. You can stop the movement by using 2 shorting
pads on the top plate. Is Omega saying it is so accurate you don't have to set
it??
Best Regards,
John G.
Jim and Lesley
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>It has day and date function and 15 jewels..
I'm not too certain which model your talking about ,but there are usually
just a couple of ways of changing the minutes,firstly,the "2shorting
pads"used to stop the watch,hold them down for 5 secs release then quickly
reapply the pressure .The second way is if there is a pushpiece in the
centre of the crown push this in for 5 secs etc(same as ubove)
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the pads per your procedure did not change the time setting. It is a calibre
1345 and I put a couple pictures on the web at:
http://www.angelfire.com/nj2/gsicomputerservices/seamast.jpg
Any help is greatly appreciated
John G.
Darryl Bryant
>
> Thanks for the response. There is no center button in the crown and shorting
> the pads per your procedure did not change the time setting. It is a calibre
> 1345 and I put a couple pictures on the web at:
>
> http://www.angelfire.com/nj2/gsicomputerservices/seamast.jpg
>
first thing, prodding around quartz watch circuits when you don't have
clue what you are doing is a great way of destroying them, ok, those
pads if its the ones I think you mean are used for testing the motor
pulses, so by shorting them out, all you are doing is denying the pulse
current getting to the motor.
secondly you have the wrong crown on the watch, you have a cheap and
nasty crown fitted probably because someone didn't want to pay for a
original push centre crown from Omega, they are rather pricy so be
sitting down when you ask how much one is.
to set the watch,
if the time is out by a few seconds slow, you can press and release the
crown centre as many times as needed to make the hand jump forward one
second at a time, ie; if 5 seconds slow, press and release the crown
centre 5 times in quick succession.
if its say 5 second fast, then press and hold the crown centre and the
second hand will stop until the crown centre is released.
if you need to reset the time, say after a battery change, then press
and hold the crown centre for 5 seconds, then release and immediately
press and hold again, now the second hand should start zipping around
the dial quickly, hold the crown centre as long as needed to syncronise
the time, release it just before the right time and use the pulse set
method for final setting, because if you miss you have to go around the
dial again.
once the minutes and seconds are set, then pull the crown out and wind
the hour hand around intil the date flicks over, thats midnight, then
keep turning the hour hand around until you are on the right hour.
these watches are a pain to set, but they are great for daylight saving
change over, and in changing time zones if you travel alot.
cheers
dAz
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than cheap and nasty. It wasn't replaced by someone who didn't want to pay for
an omega crown, it was broken off (missing) when I got the watch (a few days
ago) and I drilled out an old scrap crown and pressed it on the stub of the
omega crown so I could try to figure out how the watch works. And yes, I did
pull the stem and put in in a pin vise to screw the stub off the stem and fit
the dummy crown. I did try pushing it in before I fit the dummy crown but I
did not hold it for the magic 5 seconds. Now it makes sense that it is a
mechanical crown that separated and the outer part was lost by the previous
owner. When you push the crown it stops the second hand until you release it,
it does not make it jump to the next second on this watch. If you push it for
5 seconds then quickly release and push (thanks Jim & Lesley), the time
advances rapidly And by the way, I would NEVER prod around inside quartz watch
circuits when I don't have a clue what I am doing, I prod in a very trained and
professional manner at all times. I might even fire up my 50 Mhz. storage
oscilloscope and prod around at an engineering level! But seriously, it is
very obvious that the pads are there for the porpose of shorting and there are
tweezer marks that prove I am not the first person who tried this. I have also
seen other quartz watches where it is necessary to short 2 pads after a new
battery is installed to reset the logic. The pads go to a tiny 8 pin IC.
I can tell by your suspicion that you have some real insight about the watch
business. I'm working on restoring 4 other omegas that all have rank looking
replacement crowns. I think it's more watch repairmen who suggest a cheap
replacement because they have one in house and don't feel like slowing down the
job to order a REAL crown, thereby delaying payment. This quartz was a "throw
in" on a lot that I purchased (in fact, they came from Australia mate). I
normally would not wear or keep a quartz but this one is really cool and it is
more accurate than any of my other omegas. I will be replacing all the crowns
on these watches before adding them to my collection or putting them up for
sale.
I do thank you kindly Darryl (and Jim & Lesley) for your responses and taking
the time to answer, it made my day. I was really hoping someone would know how
to set this watch. I guess I should have mentioned that I just scabbed this
crown on as a temporary measure so I could test the watch. It was preventing
me from pushing in the stem far enough to activate the set circuit.
I have started to host some of my collection on a web site if anyone cares to
take a peek.
Best Regards,
John G.
GSI COMP
than cheap and nasty. It wasn't replaced by someone who didn't want to pay for
an omega crown, it was broken off (missing) when I got the watch (a few days
ago) and I drilled out an old scrap crown and pressed it on the stub of the
omega crown so I could try to figure out how the watch works. And yes, I did
pull the stem and put in in a pin vise to screw the stub off the stem and fit
the dummy crown. I did try pushing it in before I fit the dummy crown but I
did not hold it for the magic 5 seconds. Now it makes sense that it is a
mechanical crown that separated and the outer part was lost by the previous
owner. When you push the crown it stops the second hand until you release it,
it does not make it jump to the next second on this watch. If you push it for
5 seconds then quickly release and push (thanks Jim & Lesley), the time
advances rapidly And by the way, I would NEVER prod around inside quartz watch
circuits when I don't have a clue what I am doing, I prod in a very trained and
professional manner at all times. I might even fire up my 50 Mhz. storage
oscilloscope and prod around at an engineering level! But seriously, it is
marks that prove I am not the first person who tried this. I have also seen
other quartz watches where it is necessary to short 2 pads after a new battery
is installed to reset the logic. The pads go to a tiny 8 pin IC.
I can tell by your suspicion that you have some real insight about the watch
business. I'm working on restoring 4 other omegas that all have rank looking
replacement crowns. I think it's more watch repairmen who suggest a cheap
replacement because they have one in house and don't feel like slowing down the
job to order a REAL crown, thereby delaying payment. This quartz was a "throw
in" on a lot that I purchased (in fact, they came from Australia mate). I
normally would not wear or keep a quartz but this one is really cool and it is
more accurate than any of my other omegas. I will be replacing all the crowns
on these watches before adding them to my collection or putting them up for
sale.
I do thank you kindly Darryl (and Jim & Lesley) for your responses and taking
the time to answer, it made my day. I was really hoping someone would know how
to set this watch. I guess I should have mentioned that I just scabbed this
crown on as a temporary measure so I could test the watch. It was preventing
me from pushing in the stem far enough to activate the set circuit.
I have started to host some of my collection on a web site if anyone cares to
take a peek.
http://hometown.aol.com/gsicomput/myhomepage/photo.html
Best Regards,
John G.
Darryl Bryant
>
> COOL COOL COOL COOL COOL!!! And I'll have you know that crown is much worse
> than cheap and nasty. It wasn't replaced by someone who didn't want to pay for
> an omega crown, it was broken off (missing) when I got the watch (a few days
> ago) and I drilled out an old scrap crown and pressed it on the stub of the
> omega crown so I could try to figure out how the watch works. And yes, I did
> pull the stem and put in in a pin vise to screw the stub off the stem and fit
> the dummy crown.
good boy!
> I did try pushing it in before I fit the dummy crown but I
> did not hold it for the magic 5 seconds. Now it makes sense that it is a
> mechanical crown that separated and the outer part was lost by the previous
> owner. When you push the crown it stops the second hand until you release it,
> it does not make it jump to the next second on this watch.
It will if you press-release-press-release in rapid sucession, and
losing the outer knurled part is quite normal with this model.
> If you push it for
> 5 seconds then quickly release and push (thanks Jim & Lesley), the time
> advances rapidly And by the way, I would NEVER prod around inside quartz watch
> circuits when I don't have a clue what I am doing, I prod in a very trained and
> professional manner at all times. I might even fire up my 50 Mhz. storage
> oscilloscope and prod around at an engineering level! But seriously, it is
> very obvious that the pads are there for this purpose and there are tweezer
> marks that prove I am not the first person who tried this. I have also seen
> other quartz watches where it is necessary to short 2 pads after a new battery
> is installed to reset the logic. The pads go to a tiny 8 pin IC.
very true of most digital, digi/analogue, and multi stepper motor
analogues, but not with this model, as I said before these are not
shorting pads, the scratches are from test probes used on a quartz watch
timer/tester like this from Witschi
http://www.witschi.com/products-full/nt-handy-en.htm or the more
expensive Q test 6000
>
> I can tell by your suspicion that you have some real insight about the watch
> business. I'm working on restoring 4 other omegas that all have rank looking
> replacement crowns. I think it's more watch repairmen who suggest a cheap
> replacement because they have one in house and don't feel like slowing down the
> job to order a REAL crown, thereby delaying payment. This quartz was a "throw
> in" on a lot that I purchased (in fact, they came from Australia mate).
good mate!, no worries mate! :-)
> normally would not wear or keep a quartz but this one is really cool and it is
> more accurate than any of my other omegas.
one of the shops I worked in years ago sold these models when they first
came out, they sold quite well for a high end watch, the movements
are/were made by omega, not like the eta movements they use now. Omega
being part of the Swatch group now.
> I will be replacing all the crowns
> on these watches before adding them to my collection or putting them up for
> sale.
>
> I do thank you kindly Darryl (and Jim & Lesley) for your responses and taking
> the time to answer, it made my day. I was really hoping someone would know how
> to set this watch. I guess I should have mentioned that I just scabbed this
> crown on as a temporary measure so I could test the watch. It was preventing
> me from pushing in the stem far enough to activate the set circuit.
well thats fair enough, I do that myself (use a test crown) if I need to
check the functions of a movement in for repair.
>
> I have started to host some of my collection on a web site if anyone cares to
> take a peek.
>
> http://hometown.aol.com/gsicomput/myhomepage/photo.html
hmmm, nice classic Omega
cheers and good luck with the crown hunt.
dAz