Corona
R R
Remo Rosati, author
DIVINE INTERVENTION
http://www.geocities.com/newnovelann
Available at over 50,000 bookstores & online
Scott Lindner
Scott
"R R" <newno...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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MDixon
>
> Remo Rosati, author
> DIVINE INTERVENTION
> http://www.geocities.com/newnovelann
Is your book as crappy as your taste in beer???
No Cheers,
Mike
dechucka
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he has a book? I never ever follow threads in a signature so I wouldn't know
or care
paddy_nyr
Oh, Guess
>Still the best beer, well at least that's what I think.
Shaddup, you spamming mouthbreathing moron. You don't have
the mental capacity to think.
--
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Alex
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joe s
the place...can't imagine what the book is like...
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Richard
>
> Remo Rosati, author
Still the worst spammer/troll, well at least that's what I think.
Josh
R R wrote:
> Still the best beer, well at least that's what I think.
> Corona is one of the crappiest beers when it comes to mexican beer.
lime does not make a beer.
Try a negra modelo or dos equis amber if you like a little darker
mexican beer.
Douglas W. Hoyt
mexican beer.
But there is help for people who like Mexican beer. It's expensive, though.
Oh, Guess
<cosmic...@comcast.net> wrote:
>[...]
>
>Negra Modelo and Takata are both good.
WTF is "Takata"?
> For a light beer, Corona isn't
>bad -- I would take it over bud or pbr any day.
I'd just as soon not drink at all, if those are all the
choices I'm offered.
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Nobody You Know
Ray Drouillard
"Oh, Guess" <dSHOV...@LOUSYSPAM.net> wrote in message
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> On Wed, 24 Sep 2003 08:45:47 -0400, "Ray Drouillard"
> <cosmic...@comcast.net> wrote:
>
> >[...]
> >
> >Negra Modelo and Takata are both good.
>
> WTF is "Takata"?
I probably spelled it wrong.
One of our old exchange students gave me a can when we were down in
Mexico for a visit, and I was surprised at how good it was. I learned
to drink beer in Germany, so I have little fondness for manufactured
beer.
>
> > For a light beer, Corona isn't
> >bad -- I would take it over bud or pbr any day.
>
> I'd just as soon not drink at all, if those are all the
> choices I'm offered.
There have been many times that I have made exactly that decision.
Usually, the choices are bud, bud light, or water. I choose water.
Ray
Steve Jackson
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> > WTF is "Takata"?
>
> I probably spelled it wrong.
No probably. I'm guessing you were going for Tecate.
>
> One of our old exchange students gave me a can when we were down in
> Mexico for a visit, and I was surprised at how good it was. I learned
> to drink beer in Germany, so I have little fondness for manufactured
> beer.
Uh, hate to break it to you, but they manufacture beer in Germany, too.
Pretty much all beer is manufactured, whatever that means in this context.
-Steve
Ray Drouillard
"Steve Jackson" <stvja...@cox.net.no.spam> wrote in message
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There is a difference between a microbrewery that brews beer according
to the German Beer Purity Law of 1516, and the way it is done by the
million-gallon-a-batch plants that pump the wort full of chemicals to
get it going faster.
Ray
Lew Bryson
> "Steve Jackson" <stvja...@cox.net.no.spam> wrote in message
> too.
> > Pretty much all beer is manufactured, whatever that means in this
> context.
>
> There is a difference between a microbrewery that brews beer according
> to the German Beer Purity Law of 1516, and the way it is done by the
> million-gallon-a-batch plants that pump the wort full of chemicals to
> get it going faster.
Where does a huge place like Paulaner, where they brew according to the
Purity Law in huge batches, fit in? Far as that goes, I don't know of any
breweries outside of the Third World where they pump the wort full of
chemicals to get it going faster. Yeast nutrients? Sure. Maybe some malt
extract for coloring? No big deal, single malt Scotch whiskies use "spirit
caramel" for coloring and nobody accuses them of being "manufactured." And
ask an experienced and truthful German brewer; he'll tell you there are
things they DO put in their beer, and it's okay...as long as they take them
back out again. Piff.
Thing is, the mainstream beers are, for the most part, nowhere near as foul,
chemical-ridden, and horrible as many beer snobs think they are. If Corona
uses corn or rice, well, the original 1516 Reinheitsgebot didn't say
anything about wheat in beer, and there are plenty of German brewers who use
it. (Didn't say anything about yeast, either, but that's an artifact of the
times.) Why is wheat good and corn or rice bad? Because beer geeks say so?
The point is, these are beers YOU (and many others) don't like. I'm not nuts
about them myself. But that doesn't mean they're not beer. I know people who
do not like lambics, will not drink them, say they're not beer. Are they
right, just because they say so?
Have a beer you like. Relax.
--
Lew Bryson
www.LewBryson.com
Author of "New York Breweries" and "Pennsylvania Breweries," 2nd ed., both
available at <www.amazon.com>
The Hotmail address on this post is for newsgroups only: I don't check it,
or respond to it. Spam away.
Steve Jackson
> There is a difference between a microbrewery that brews beer according
> to the German Beer Purity Law of 1516, and the way it is done by the
> million-gallon-a-batch plants that pump the wort full of chemicals to
> get it going faster.
Hate to break it to you, but a great deal of German breweries are indeed
factory, million-gallon-a-batch breweries. And there's nothing magical about
the Reinheitsgebot. Belgium and England and the overwhelming majority of
craft breweries in the States manage to brew quite nice beers without it.
You care to outline the chemicals all these other breweries are using?
-Steve
Oh, Guess
<cosmic...@comcast.net> wrote:
>
>"Steve Jackson" <stvja...@cox.net.no.spam> wrote in message
>news:Jyicb.8554$vj2.6838@fed1read06...
>> "Ray Drouillard" <cosmic...@comcast.net> wrote in message
>> news:bksc76$5ai4c$1...@ID-193109.news.uni-berlin.de...
>>
>> > > WTF is "Takata"?
>> >
>> > I probably spelled it wrong.
>>
>> No probably. I'm guessing you were going for Tecate.
Ah, my bad... looked like a Japanese spelling, not a Spanish-
Mexican spelling.
>> > One of our old exchange students gave me a can when we were down in
>> > Mexico for a visit, and I was surprised at how good it was. I
>learned
>> > to drink beer in Germany, so I have little fondness for manufactured
>> > beer.
>>
>> Uh, hate to break it to you, but they manufacture beer in Germany,
>too.
>> Pretty much all beer is manufactured, whatever that means in this
>context.
>
>There is a difference between a microbrewery that brews beer according
>to the German Beer Purity Law of 1516
Suppose I tell you about not just one, but several microbreweries that
produce excellent beers, gleefully ignoring the *BAVARIAN* (not
German Reinheitsgebot of 1516? Suppose I tell you about a couple of
countries with great beer traditions, yet the Reinheitsgebot doesn't
apply? Any guesses?
Suppose I tell you that the same Reinheitsgebot, which the Bavarians
demanded that the Germans apply nationwide as a condition of joining
unified Germany back in the late 19th century, destroyed a
substantial amount of interesting, even excellent beer styles?
> and the way it is done by the
>million-gallon-a-batch plants
Warsteiner, Beck's, Bitburger, Paulaner, Spaten-Löwenbräu,
Henninger... all of these are breweries with large volumes,
producing millions of barrels per year. They're all German.
Say what again?
> that pump the wort full of chemicals to
>get it going faster.
Name those chemicals. Name how they "get it going faster."
I'm intrigued.
--
Nobody You Know
Alan McKay
> Hate to break it to you, but a great deal of German breweries are indeed
> factory, million-gallon-a-batch breweries. And there's nothing magical about
> the Reinheitsgebot. Belgium and England and the overwhelming majority of
> craft breweries in the States manage to brew quite nice beers without it.
I prefer to call it the Reinheitsverbot (Verbot == forbidden) because of
all the pure ingredients it forbids. Oats are good pure ingredients, are they not?
Fruit as well.
Not to mention the fact that German brewers have developed all sorts of
sneaky tricks to get around the Reinheitsgebot. They use a type of plastic
to clarify the beer, but because they can filter out 100% of it so none ends
up in the final product, it is allowed. They also use "gravy browning"
as we call it in my club. It is called "Kuloer" in German. It's an extract
of dark malts that is like a syrup. It is put into beer to make darker beers.
It's allowed because it consists only of malts, but it's the same crap that
NA brewers use.
"Just say no" to the Reinheitsverbot!
Alan McKay
> demanded that the Germans apply nationwide as a condition of joining
> unified Germany back in the late 19th century, destroyed a
> substantial amount of interesting, even excellent beer styles?
Indeed! Around Hamburg in the north there was a thriving fruit beer industry
with styles very similar to the nearby Belgians. With one swipe of the pen
they were gone. Crazy King Ludwig and his Reinheitsverbot.
cheers,
-Alan
www.bodensatz.com
Dan Listermann
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I don't know anything about this...I'd like to know more, where can I find
some literature on it?
Oh, Guess
Numerous quirky beers used to be brewed in the northeastern parts of
Germany, too. There has been an attempt to revive one of them:
Leipziger Gose. A top-fermented, slightly sour wheat beer flavored
with a bit of coriander and salt? Heavens! The terrible impurity
of it all! Call out the Bavarian Royal Beer Purity Police!
I like many Bavarian beers, but those beers are not the alpha and
omega of brewing. Perhaps it's time for more German brewers to
adopt the sly Franconian motto: "Frei, staat Bayern."
--
Nobody You Know
Dan Listermann
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brian carter
Other members of the EU (Britain, France and others) went to the court to force
Germany to allow the brewers from other countries access to the german market.
Brian
Alan McKay
> I also heard that the EU court nullified the Purity Law about a year ago. The
> Other members of the EU (Britain, France and others) went to the court to force
> Germany to allow the brewers from other countries access to the german market.
It apparantly still stands when brewing beer in germany, for germany.
but you can brew in germany for export and ignore it.
and you can brew elsewhere for germany and ignore it.
Oh, Guess
<swla...@netscape.net> wrote:
>I also heard that the EU court nullified the Purity Law about a year ago. The
>Other members of the EU (Britain, France and others) went to the court to force
>Germany to allow the brewers from other countries access to the german market.
The EU ruled that the Biersteuergesetz, which is the modern version of
the so-called Reinheitsgebot, was unfairly used to restrain trade.
This happened back in the late 1980's, though, when a French brewer
complained about lack of access to German markets. Fat lot of good it
did them; German brewers still brew according to the local laws, and
locals still tend to be quite wary of anything from outside their own
regions, let alone anything from outside the country.
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Oh, Guess
<d...@listermann.com> wrote:
>Could salt be added to German beer by way of sea water?
I suppose, but why would they want to? The only German style
that uses even a bit of salt is Leipziger Gose, and that beer
is produced in fairly small quantities. Besides, Leipzig is
rather far away from any seacoast - it's well south of Berlin.
--
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Theodore Kloba
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No, I mean the Hamburg fruit beers...what were they like, how were they
made, what's their history, what fruits were used, type of yeast?
spontaneous fermentation?
Steve
Many of the European beers that are viewed as premuim beers in the US
are in reality just another country's mega brewed beer. I spend about
3 months a year in Europe and while some beers are better than others,
many are just another megaswill (that can be pretty refreshing on a
hot afternoon).
Corona in my opinion is a feat of pure marketing genius! Back in the
late 70's I used to go surfing several times a year in Baja, Mexico
with my (then broke and underage) buddies and we drank more than our
fair share of Corona. We didn't chose it because it was good beer,
but because it was cheaper than the other "standard priced" Mexican
beers (Carte Blanca, XX, Negro Modello, etc.). Corona was basically
Mexico's equivalent of Old Milwalkee or a Lucky 12-Pack and one of the
cheapest beers you could buy. Some genius imported it, put some $$
into a marketing image, and has been able to successfully sell it as a
"premium" beer. Proof positive than the US consumer is gullible and
willing to follow fads like mindless sheep. Given the growing
appearance of American Budweiser in some European countries, I have
often wondered if one could set up PBR as a "premium" American export
beer and sell it in Europe for $10 a 6-pack and make a killing!
Cheers!
Steve
Ed Askew
Those guys drink Bud like it's going out of style! I was highly
dismayed to find this out when I was in Munich in the mid 90's. I
mean, really, Budweiser, Anheiser-Busch, St. Louis, MO? It was
everywhere. In almost every restaurant and bar. From what I
understand it is one of the biggest selling beers in Germany and it's
the number one import. I couldn't believe it. What's worse is that
the German beers that the average Fritz over there is drinking taste
just like Bud even if it's not Bud. They've got some really good beer
over there, but that's not what most volks drink.
Ed.
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Alan McKay
> No, I mean the Hamburg fruit beers...what were they like, how were they
> made, what's their history, what fruits were used, type of yeast?
> spontaneous fermentation?
I'll try to dig up some references ...
Alan McKay
Focal Point
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<.....>
> Corona was basically
> Mexico's equivalent of Old Milwalkee or a Lucky 12-Pack and one of the
> cheapest beers you could buy.
Add Australian Fosters to that list, too.
> Some genius imported it, put some $$
> into a marketing image, and has been able to successfully sell it as a
> "premium" beer. Proof positive than the US consumer is gullible and
> willing to follow fads like mindless sheep. Given the growing
> appearance of American Budweiser in some European countries, I have
> often wondered if one could set up PBR as a "premium" American export
> beer and sell it in Europe for $10 a 6-pack and make a killing!
Very likely this would be possible, as PBR tastes better (which isn't saying
a great deal... *water* tastes better) than the other examples you've given
and goes down really well on a hot afternoon. My local tavern sells tap PBR
pints all day Wednesdays for $1.00, and other days at $1.50/pint. 12-packs
of cans in the grocery store go for under $6.00-- and this is a surprisingly
refreshing beer. There's no way it could beat the local micros, of course,
except for price, but I've quit bashing it. {:-)
FP
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I'd say its quite likely PBR could be sold as a premium US export, after
all its already viewed as a premium alternative to BMC among a certain
hipster scene *within* the US.
(of course this is the same hipster scene that thinks big wide-brimmed
John Deere caps or such is the new fashion)
David Robley
says...
>
> "Steve" <z...@hopheads.com> wrote in message
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>
> <.....>
>
> > Corona was basically
> > Mexico's equivalent of Old Milwalkee or a Lucky 12-Pack and one of the
> > cheapest beers you could buy.
>
> Add Australian Fosters to that list, too.
Right at the top, if you please!
Cheers
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Steve Jackson
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> Yeah but....
>
> Those guys drink Bud like it's going out of style!
No, they don't. At least they didn't when I was living there in 2001.
> I was highly
> dismayed to find this out when I was in Munich in the mid 90's.
Note the date. Their tastes have shifted. I'm guessing it may have been a
new availability, and it was a faddish thing amongst the younger crowd for a
time. I really don't recall seeing Bud around Munich at all when I was
living there.
> I
> mean, really, Budweiser, Anheiser-Busch, St. Louis, MO? It was
> everywhere. In almost every restaurant and bar.
Not anymore.
-STeve
belgobar
possible
In principle the germans lost the beer culture about 20 years ago when
discount markets
was taking over
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Lew Bryson
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> In general, germans are drinking what ever available and as cheap as
> possible
> In principle the germans lost the beer culture about 20 years ago when
> discount markets
> was taking over
Something to be said for that, I'm afraid. Beer is bizarrely cheap in
Germany, often under E5 for a case of 20X0.5 liter bottles. That's just
stupid, and will only lead to havoc in the end. Oh, wait, it already has:
see Interbrew now being the largest brewer in the German market.
Douglas W. Hoyt
mexican beer.
> When is the last time you tried Mexican beer?
The last time I had one was, coincidentally, the last time I went to a
Mexican restaurant. Mid-september. All they HAD was Mexican beers, so I
got the dos equis amber. It is Budweiser, with a caramel candy thrown in.
Jerry Zeidler
my obvious inclinations.
; )
Jerry Zeidler
Williamsport, PA
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> Still the best beer, well at least that's what I think.
>
> Remo Rosati, author
> DIVINE INTERVENTION
> http://www.geocities.com/newnovelann
> Available at over 50,000 bookstores & online
>
>
>
>
>
Ray Drouillard
"Douglas W. Hoyt" <dougl...@charter.net> wrote in message
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> >>>> Try a negra modelo or dos equis amber if you like a little darker
> mexican beer.
>
though.
When is the last time you tried Mexican beer?
Negra Modelo and Takata are both good. For a light beer, Corona isn't
bad -- I would take it over bud or pbr any day.
Of course, I really like the stuff that I brew myself :-)
Ray