Armstrong self stick tiles are moving

[Rick]

Our small bathroom ( 5 x 8 ft) had sheet vinyl that we covered with self
stick Armstrong tiles (the better Solarian ones) Well, they look nice, but
are moving around, and some now have gaps you can stick the edge of a dime
into. I realize it is probably because of the slick surface they are on, but
we didn't expect this nor was there a warning about applying over vinyl. By
applying pressure I can slide them into place again, but how do I make this
permanent? It has been a week. Do they eventually settle down?

--
Regards.
Rick

[Chïp]

"Rick" <ra...@comcast.net> wrote in message
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: Our small bathroom ( 5 x 8 ft) had sheet vinyl that we covered with self

Rick, i could be all wrong, but i believe your stuck errrrrr unstuck, with
the problem...know you dont wanna hear, you should have read how to install
them b/4 hand, but you should've looked into it, b/4 laying self stick over
existing vinyl...they probably will settle down eventually, but not where
you originally put them...

chip

[Bruce]

I did that project, too. In my situation, Armstrong recommends "embossing
filler" on the vinyl below to make it smooth, and there are other
recommendations for various situations. I used that stuff and the floor is
OK, and I am sort of "happy" to hear that, based on your results, I probably
did the right thing.

I should add that the self-stick tiles were so fricken much trouble to put
down, because of the filler stuff, that it completely defeats the purpose of
tiles being "easy" and I would never use those tiles again in my life.
-Bruce

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[Mr Fixit]

"Rick" <ra...@comcast.net> wrote in message
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With those rascals the best bet is to fit them snug to the perimeter so they
have noplace to move to.
Since you apparently didn't do that, perhaps you can pull your base molding
and apply a liberal amount of 100% silicone between the tile edges and the
wall base to prevent movement (after getting all the joints back tight
together again).

This is the very reason I no longer use those rascals (haven't for years
now). Sheet vynil is so much better for a bathroom and in reality, much
quicker to install.

[Magnificent Bass Turd]

"Rick" <ra...@comcast.net> wrote

> Our small bathroom ( 5 x 8 ft) had sheet vinyl that we covered with self
> stick Armstrong tiles (the better Solarian ones) Well, they look nice, but

> are moving around. Do they eventually settle down?

Once the acid wears off, they'll stop.

BTW, don't do drugs and stay in school!

[Brad and Julie Vaughn]

"Rick" <ra...@comcast.net> wrote in message news:<aq4kf0$5sljt$1...@ID-124161.news.dfncis.de>...

I installed these in my Bathroom and Kitchen at my last house. On the
advice of a friend, I rented a 100 lb. roller and slowly rolled across
the floor several times after laying them. the didn't move in over 2
years that I remained in the house. If your get them reset, maybe a
roller would help you. It basically had about 2' footprint and three
steel or iron drums. Hope this helps.

Brad and Julie Vaughn

[Mr Fixit]

"Brad and Julie Vaughn" <jfa...@socket.net> wrote in message
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Now there's a tip that should be in the FAQ's.

[Rick]

Thanks everyone, for the tips. The room is small, and includes a full tub,
double sink cabinet, toilet and a small closet, so there are only 3 tiles
across in some areas (where they are moving the most.) A roller is
impractical. I found a matching caulk and will try the perimeter thing. I
thought about nailing a few tiny brads in the perimeter against the most
active ones. Oh well, this one went like most of my home projects go;
although laying them was easy, and they really look nice.
--
Regards.
Rick

[qualityblu...@gmail.com]

Eventually, the glue will completely cure and the tiles will be adhered permanently, but you do need to make sure they are in the position you wish them to be in when that happens! I am planning on doing a larger room, over vinyl also, and have had the experience you are having in a past project. With this new project, I am going to use a staple gun on the last course of tiles, beneath where the trim strip will be installed, with the thought that if that last course is held in place, all other courses will not be able to move. For tiles that did move in a prior project, I am going to hit them with a heat-gun to soften the glue, and then press them back where they belong.

[Uncle Monster]

On Wednesday, September 13, 2017 at 1:47:14 PM UTC-5, qualityblu...@gmail.com wrote:
> Eventually, the glue will completely cure and the tiles will be adhered permanently, but you do need to make sure they are in the position you wish them to be in when that happens! I am planning on doing a larger room, over vinyl also, and have had the experience you are having in a past project. With this new project, I am going to use a staple gun on the last course of tiles, beneath where the trim strip will be installed, with the thought that if that last course is held in place, all other courses will not be able to move. For tiles that did move in a prior project, I am going to hit them with a heat-gun to soften the glue, and then press them back where they belong.

It's been 15 years since Rick posted about his problem. He got tired of waiting and removed all the tiles. He then glued down a layer of gerbil skins which are soft and warm on his feet in the winter months. All he has to do is vacuum the gerbil floor every now and then. ヽ(ヅ)ノ

[8~{} Uncle Fuzzy Monster

[Oren]

>It's been 15 years since Rick posted about his problem. He got tired of waiting and removed all the tiles. He then glued down a layer of gerbil skins which are soft and warm on his feet in the winter months. All he has to do is vacuum the gerbil floor every now and then. ?(?)?
>
>[8~{} Uncle Fuzzy Monster

Don't use gerbil hides. For the love of mankind. This method harkens
back to the day when carpets were hand sewn together. You risk a
serious threat of hair and string wrapping around the power header.

Ya'll been warned.