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RR

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Jan 25, 2008, 12:05:07 AM1/25/08
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We need to replace our redwood fences. One neighbor claims that untreated
redwood is more rot reistant than treated wood.

Can anyone tell me what fence post is more resistant to rot and insects:
pressure treated posts or untreated redwood?

Is the brown pressure treated wood better than the green treated wood?

Is there some website that you can direct me to that shows this information.

thanks in advance


buffalobill

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Jan 25, 2008, 7:45:48 AM1/25/08
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buffalo ny: this may save you some money. this may depend on your
climate, soil moisture, and drainage travel. easiest answer sometimes
comes from the permit office or local fence company. careful of the
type of pressure treating it may be limited in your area regarding
kids and pets. you may need to check your survey for placement, and
your town for limits and right-of-ways. regardless of how long your
fence has been around, fences are often excluded from front yards,
intersections, and even some neighborhoods by zoning. since life and
cost per year are probably concerns, you'll want to read more at:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wood_preservation

HeyBub

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Jan 25, 2008, 9:07:13 AM1/25/08
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You want a rot-resistant post?

Steel posts in a concrete base with wood 4x4 bolted to the post.


ransley

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Jan 25, 2008, 9:13:53 AM1/25/08
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In my area the CCA green treated wihich I dont think is made anymore
is fine after 30 years, redwood would have lasted 10, I never saw
brown treated

KC

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Jan 25, 2008, 12:32:50 PM1/25/08
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On Jan 24, 11:05 pm, "RR" <zippidy...@yahoo.com> wrote:

I assume by brown you mean creosote treated. I've never seen fence
material treated with that. Plus it's very toxic for yard use.
(Creosote is now a restricted use pesticide). That leaves the green
(ACQ) treated wood, redwood, or cypress.
If you live in the NW, redwood may be an option but the last time I
inquired at my local lumber yards I was told "no one stocks it
anymore, and if ordered be prepared to pay VERY high prices."
If it were me, I'd use treated 4x4's and cypress boards/panels.

KC

jJim McLaughlin

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Jan 25, 2008, 1:43:44 PM1/25/08
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Answers to some of your questions depend, in part, upon where the
fence posts are locate.

Are the in southern Louisiana, Mississippi or Alabama, Florida?

Are the posts in Alaska? High desert country in the Great Basin?

All different sets of bugs, different precipitation and ground water issues,
different teperrature cycles and different freeze / thaw issues
regarding ground water.

Also, of course different soil types with different watrer retention issues.

All of these have a bearing on wood post longevity.

Can you tell us more about the climate, soil type and geographical
location?

Universaly, the plastic / ? PVC ? posts will hold up well, but it
doesn't sound
like that will fit in with your CC&Rs.

Thanks.

nick hull

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Jan 25, 2008, 7:37:41 PM1/25/08
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In article <66emj.1906$so6...@newssvr19.news.prodigy.net>,
"RR" <zippi...@yahoo.com> wrote:

> We need to replace our redwood fences. One neighbor claims that untreated
> redwood is more rot reistant than treated wood.
>
> Can anyone tell me what fence post is more resistant to rot and insects:
> pressure treated posts or untreated redwood?

If you can get it, plain locust heartwood will last 50 years :0

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dpb

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Jan 25, 2008, 8:06:29 PM1/25/08
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nick hull wrote:
> In article <66emj.1906$so6...@newssvr19.news.prodigy.net>,
> "RR" <zippi...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
...

>> Can anyone tell me what fence post is more resistant to rot and insects:
>> pressure treated posts or untreated redwood?
>
> If you can get it, plain locust heartwood will last 50 years :0

black locust, that is...

So will Osage orange...

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Eric9822

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Jan 25, 2008, 11:13:37 PM1/25/08
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The green treated 4x4's don't last anywhere near as long as they used
too because the treatment has changed for environmental protection (at
least it has in California). Redwood is OK as long as you get
construction heartwood grade, no sapwood. Heartwood is decay and
insect resistant, sapwood is not. All of the redwood posts I have
seen in home depot or places like home depot are sapwood and not the
construction heartwood grade. If you want the posts to really last a
long time get master halco postmasters. Link is here ->>
http://www.fenceonline.com/postmasterwood.html They cost a little bit
more but they will last a long time and they are a lot easier to cover
then the standard steel round posts.

Jacemon...@yahoo.com

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Apr 2, 2017, 10:07:59 PM4/2/17
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Just had my fence built. Heartwood redwood fence with the brown treated post and a six inch 2x6 kicker of treated wood. And there are some corrosive material in the treated wood. So the framing was done with coated screws. Make sure they mix your concrete and not just dump and add water at hole. And last, make sure the concrete is mounded around post, not to hold water. Hope this helps, DK , CA

Jim

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Jun 6, 2017, 10:44:06 PM6/6/17
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replying to RR, Jim wrote:
I used treated posts one time. I had to replace every post I planted. They
all warped and/or twisted. I'll never use treated again. I used cedar
usually and they lasted 20+years. Our local home depot just ran out of the
cedar posts, so I used red wood because I heard the same about redwood. I
know many decks which used redwood last long.

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mcgr...@rscloud.ca

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Mar 27, 2019, 10:39:56 AM3/27/19
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On Friday, January 25, 2008 at 12:05:07 AM UTC-5, RR wrote:

Norgeiron

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Sep 15, 2020, 12:30:10 PM9/15/20
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Correct! I have a 30 year old redwood fence that is doing fine. The key to wood longevity is to avoid moisture, so I did NOT sink the redwood 4X4's into the ground. I dug post holes, filled them with concrete, and sunk Simpson heavy duty galvanized post bases into the wet concrete. The post bases elevate the wooden posts above grade by a half inch or so. Every year or two I spray the bottom of the 4X4's with wood preservative and they are doing fine---=no termites and no rot. Now, after 30 + years, some of the Simpson galvanized bases are rusted out, but I have a fix for that, too. Home Depot has inexpensive and rugged stainless steel shelf brackets that look like triangles with pre-drilled holes. Attach one of these to either side of the 4X4 post and, using tap con screws, secure it to the concrete surrounding the rusted post base. It will last longer than you will.

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Colonel Edmund J. Burke

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Sep 15, 2020, 1:59:21 PM9/15/20
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On 9/15/2020 9:30 AM, Norgeiron wrote:
> Correct! I have a 30 year old redwood fence that is doing fine.  The key
> to wood longevity is to avoid moisture, so I did NOT sink the redwood
> 4X4's into the ground. I dug post holes, filled them with concrete, and
> sunk Simpson heavy duty galvanized post bases into the wet concrete. The
> post bases elevate the wooden posts above grade by a half inch or so.
> Every year or two I spray the bottom of the 4X4's with wood preservative
> and they are doing fine---=no termites and no rot. Now, after 30 +
> years, some of the Simpson galvanized bases are rusted out, but I have a
> fix for that, too. Home Depot has inexpensive and rugged stainless steel
> shelf brackets that look like triangles  with pre-drilled holes. Attach
> one of these to either side of the 4X4 post and, using tap con screws,
> secure it to the concrete surrounding the rusted post base. It will last
> longer than you will.
>

Home Depot sucks donkey diks.

Treegal

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Apr 18, 2021, 10:15:07 PM4/18/21
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We’re using redwood tree trunks that we will sink in post holes with concrete for fence posts. My question is, should we scrap the bark off or does the bark protect the wood from rot?

Rod Speed

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Apr 18, 2021, 10:30:27 PM4/18/21
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Treegal <d5c416ad39cd0b9a...@example.com> wrote

> We’re using redwood tree trunks that we will sink in post holes with
> concrete for fence posts. My question is, should we scrap the bark off or
> does the bark protect the wood from rot?

They are unlikely to be still reading after 13 years.

Peeler

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On Mon, 19 Apr 2021 12:30:13 +1000, cantankerous trolling geezer Rodent
Speed, the auto-contradicting senile sociopath, blabbered, again:


> They are unlikely to be still reading after 13 years.

Not as unlikely as the likeliness that you trolling piece of shit will be
answering every such post anyway, every time, senile shithead!

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