OT: Who let this guy out of the rest home???

[T]

13 seconds:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KbqUBk-J1wo

[Hawk]

On 10/28/2020 10:29 PM, T wrote:
> 13 seconds:
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KbqUBk-J1wo


And fools are voting for him....ROFLMFAO!

[trader_4]

Why not? Fools last time voted for Trump, despite it being totally obvious
that there were many things wrong with him and that he was unfit. It looks
like people have had enough and want him to go.

[Sam E]

83 days until we can say "former president Trump". I wonder what's going
to happen to COVID-19 then.

--
57 days until the winter celebration (Fri, Dec 25, 2020 12:00:00 AM for
1 day).

"Had I been present at the creation of the world, I would have proposed
some improvements." [Alfonso X (Alfonso the Wise; 1226-1284; King of
Castile)]

[Ed Pawlowski]

Pathetic, yes, but it is out best choice. Sad we don't have a better
choice from either party.

[T]

On 2020-10-29 11:15, Sam E wrote:
> On 10/29/20 8:48 AM, trader_4 wrote:
>> On Thursday, October 29, 2020 at 7:52:32 AM UTC-4, Hawk wrote:
>>> On 10/28/2020 10:29 PM, T wrote:
>>>> 13 seconds:
>>>>
>>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KbqUBk-J1wo
>>>
>>>
>>> And fools are voting for him....ROFLMFAO!
>>
>> Why not?   Fools last time voted for Trump, despite it being totally
>> obvious
>> that there were many things wrong with him and that he was unfit.  It
>> looks
>> like people have had enough and want him to go.
>
> 83 days until we can say "former president Trump". I wonder what's going
> to happen to COVID-19 then.
>

Wishful thinking.

[Frank]

On 10/29/2020 2:15 PM, Sam E wrote:
> On 10/29/20 8:48 AM, trader_4 wrote:
>> On Thursday, October 29, 2020 at 7:52:32 AM UTC-4, Hawk wrote:
>>> On 10/28/2020 10:29 PM, T wrote:
>>>> 13 seconds:
>>>>
>>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KbqUBk-J1wo
>>>
>>>
>>> And fools are voting for him....ROFLMFAO!
>>
>> Why not?   Fools last time voted for Trump, despite it being totally
>> obvious
>> that there were many things wrong with him and that he was unfit.  It
>> looks
>> like people have had enough and want him to go.
>
> 83 days until we can say "former president Trump". I wonder what's going
> to happen to COVID-19 then.
>

Socialist Europe cannot solve the problem. Do you clowns really expect
a socialist America to do it?

[angelica...@yahoo.com]

On Thursday, October 29, 2020 at 2:16:02 PM UTC-4, Sam E wrote:
> On 10/29/20 8:48 AM, trader_4 wrote:
> > On Thursday, October 29, 2020 at 7:52:32 AM UTC-4, Hawk wrote:
> >> On 10/28/2020 10:29 PM, T wrote:
> >>> 13 seconds:
> >>>
> >>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KbqUBk-J1wo
> >>
> >>
> >> And fools are voting for him....ROFLMFAO!
> >
> > Why not? Fools last time voted for Trump, despite it being totally obvious
> > that there were many things wrong with him and that he was unfit. It looks
> > like people have had enough and want him to go.
> 83 days until we can say "former president Trump". I wonder what's going
> to happen to COVID-19 then.

My prediction: not as much as we'd like.

Too many people are too dumb to take proper precautions. We're having a spike
locally because university students really aren't all that smart.

Cindy Hamilton

[Frank]

On 10/29/2020 7:53 AM, Hawk wrote:

Democrats do not care. All they are doing is voting against Trump.

What will bite them in the ass is if Biden's/the Democrat party's
programs are enacted.

[Frank]

I told you before that if you like neither you should vote the party
platform. Neither will be present in 4 years but party programs will be
in place then.

[T]

The will control the narrative.

[T]

How about voting on accomplishments?

[Frank]

I first voted for Trump on his platform and now I have voted for him on
his accomplishments.

[T]

1+

And I like the way he does not take their snide comments
and hate speech. He gives it right back to them.

W (RINO, TX) ruined his presidency by not getting back in
their faces after katrina.

[T]

Oh you know, in this state, the RINOs come and promise
you a conservative world, then rule no different
than a democrat. The last RINO governor did the
no new taxes thing and them pushed through the
largest tax increase in our history. Even
had to bribe the democrats to get them to go
along

They say you have to support RINOs as you are getting
half the loaf and it is better to have a R by their
names. It is all smoke and mirrors. We get NONE
of the loaf and the R stands for RINO. Liars.

With Trump, I am getting 90% of the loaf. I will
tolerate the 10% I do not. Way, way better than
0% and a lot of lies.

Trump is actually making peace in the Middle East!
The is surrounding the Palestinians with peace makers
and no longer letting the Palestinians call the shots.
Isolate the haters and smoke them out.

Where does that guy get all his energy? And he seems
to actually like it!

[gfre...@aol.com]

The college kids the TV stations have talked to here at FuGU say they
know this won't be much more than a bad cold for them and most might
not have any trouble at all. Mom and dad are not around so they are
not worried about giving it to them. The administration is trying to
crack down on big parties and even threatened to expel a bunch of them
but that blew over. I don't know if the parties stopped or they are
just not as open about them. Kids will be kids.

[Bob F]

That eliminates trump. He does not have one.

[Bob F]

And we are sooooo looking forward to that.

[Frank]

To answer both your responses first it was a big criticism that W did
not respond to the crazy things the dems said about him.

I am not sure W was a RINO but more of a country club republican, i.e.
they just think they can govern better but essentially do the same things.

Couple of years ago when the candidates for local state rep came by I
told them both that I did not want a country club Republican but a
conservative Republican that believed in minimum government and less
regulation.

Trump is making things work. I also do not expect 100% but he has made
the effort and succeeded with most.

I too am amazed with his energy. They are trying to wear him down but
he loves to fight.

[Ed Pawlowski]

On 10/29/2020 2:40 PM, T wrote:

Good idea.
Tax reform that helped the wealthy but has not helped the economy
Mexico paying for a non=existent wall
Good low cost healthcare for everyone
Ruined our global image
Set Iran on the path to develop nuclear weapons
Was impeached
Being investigated for tax fraud
Being accused of rape
Self confessed pussy grabber
Defunded the WHO
Failed and lied about the Corona virus

I will be taking your advice.

[Ed Pawlowski]

On 10/29/2020 2:26 PM, Frank wrote:

>> 83 days until we can say "former president Trump". I wonder what's
>> going to happen to COVID-19 then.
>>
> Socialist Europe cannot solve the problem.  Do you clowns really expect
> a socialist America to do it?

No, but I expected a strong America to follow a strong leader to do the
right thing. South Korea, Austrailia, others are doing much better than
us.

[T]

Different time frames and different populations. This is not
a scientific comparison. Just random opinion.

[T]

We have a California RINO refugee problem out here.
They get driven out of the People's Republic of
California, move here with $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ from
the sale of their tiny houses. Then look at us as
a blank slate to start over and make watered down
socialism actually work this time.

You can't tell our Rino's apart from Democrats by
what they do, only what they say.

To borrow phrase from W, our RINOs are kinder, gentler
Democrats. When I am not cursing the lying bunch,
I think of them a rational socialists that don't
scream at you.

But that may change soon, as a lot of Democrats now-a-days
can not be told apart from communists. (Hi Bob F.!)

[T]

I bet you are comrade.

“You shall not covet your neighbor’s house. You shall
not covet your neighbor’s wife, or his manservant or
maidservant, his ox or donkey, or anything that belongs
to your neighbor.”

[T]

Do you have anything that is not outright propaganda?

[T]

Oh bullshit comrade. Trump is the only candidate in my
memory that tells you what he things and acts upon it.

[Frank]

I had thought about enumerating accomplishments but thought this might
happen with him responding exactly like I expected.

[Frank]

Their candidate wants to take away their guns, raise taxes etc but they
think he is just your normal lying politician and will not do these things.

[trader_4]

That is another Trumptard lie. Those countries have a very low Covid infection right now, liar.

[Frank]

Yeah, oh boy, open borders, higher taxes, higher gas prices, severely
limited gun ownership and more crime. He can't wait.

[Ed Pawlowski]

On 10/29/2020 5:48 PM, T wrote:

He has no platform. None. Nothing to say, "hey I like that idea"

[Ed Pawlowski]

No, they are facts. Check it out.

[trader_4]

On Thursday, October 29, 2020 at 3:58:35 PM UTC-4, gfre...@aol.com wrote:
> On Thu, 29 Oct 2020 11:26:40 -0700 (PDT), "angelica...@yahoo.com"
> <angelica...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> >On Thursday, October 29, 2020 at 2:16:02 PM UTC-4, Sam E wrote:
> >> On 10/29/20 8:48 AM, trader_4 wrote:
> >> > On Thursday, October 29, 2020 at 7:52:32 AM UTC-4, Hawk wrote:
> >> >> On 10/28/2020 10:29 PM, T wrote:
> >> >>> 13 seconds:
> >> >>>
> >> >>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KbqUBk-J1wo
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> And fools are voting for him....ROFLMFAO!
> >> >
> >> > Why not? Fools last time voted for Trump, despite it being totally obvious
> >> > that there were many things wrong with him and that he was unfit. It looks
> >> > like people have had enough and want him to go.
> >> 83 days until we can say "former president Trump". I wonder what's going
> >> to happen to COVID-19 then.
> >
> >My prediction: not as much as we'd like.
> >
> >Too many people are too dumb to take proper precautions. We're having a spike
> >locally because university students really aren't all that smart.
> >
> >Cindy Hamilton
>
> The college kids the TV stations have talked to here at FuGU say they
> know this won't be much more than a bad cold for them and most might
> not have any trouble at all.

Of course that's another totally wrong conclusion. There are a lot of dead
college age or younger people.

Mom and dad are not around so they are
> not worried about giving it to them. The administration is trying to
> crack down on big parties

Which administration is that? Not Trump, he's holding death rallies.
And in FL, the moron governor there has followed Trump.

[trader_4]

Sadly the GOP platform is just Trump is awesome.

[Ed Pawlowski]

Glad I met your expectations. I don't see anyone showing they are not
true though.
This is the guy you want as President?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Donald_Trump_sexual_misconduct_allegations

[trader_4]

We will see where rejecting all but the extreme GOP get you this Tuesday.

>
> With Trump, I am getting 90% of the loaf. I will
> tolerate the 10% I do not. Way, way better than
> 0% and a lot of lies.

It;s not 90% and you ignore the pile of Trump shit you had to eat to get
what you got, eg conservative court appointments.

>
> Trump is actually making peace in the Middle East!
> The is surrounding the Palestinians with peace makers
> and no longer letting the Palestinians call the shots.
> Isolate the haters and smoke them out.

We'll see how that works out.

>
> Where does that guy get all his energy? And he seems
> to actually like it!

Drugs?

[Hawk]

On 10/29/2020 2:15 PM, Sam E wrote:
> On 10/29/20 8:48 AM, trader_4 wrote:

>> On Thursday, October 29, 2020 at 7:52:32 AM UTC-4, Hawk wrote:
>>> On 10/28/2020 10:29 PM, T wrote:
>>>> 13 seconds:
>>>>
>>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KbqUBk-J1wo
>>>
>>>
>>> And fools are voting for him....ROFLMFAO!
>>

>> Why not?   Fools last time voted for Trump, despite it being totally
>> obvious
>> that there were many things wrong with him and that he was unfit.  It
>> looks
>> like people have had enough and want him to go.
>
> 83 days until we can say "former president Trump". I wonder what's going
> to happen to COVID-19 then.
>

Yes, and we have and are witnessing the sound mental aptitude of Biden
who you seem to think is fit. LMFAO! You're a real smart one. (◔_◔)

[Hawk]

On 10/29/2020 2:26 PM, angelica...@yahoo.com wrote:

> On Thursday, October 29, 2020 at 2:16:02 PM UTC-4, Sam E wrote:
>> On 10/29/20 8:48 AM, trader_4 wrote:
>>> On Thursday, October 29, 2020 at 7:52:32 AM UTC-4, Hawk wrote:
>>>> On 10/28/2020 10:29 PM, T wrote:
>>>>> 13 seconds:
>>>>>
>>>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KbqUBk-J1wo
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> And fools are voting for him....ROFLMFAO!
>>>
>>> Why not? Fools last time voted for Trump, despite it being totally obvious
>>> that there were many things wrong with him and that he was unfit. It looks
>>> like people have had enough and want him to go.
>> 83 days until we can say "former president Trump". I wonder what's going
>> to happen to COVID-19 then.
>

> My prediction: not as much as we'd like.
>
> Too many people are too dumb to take proper precautions. We're having a spike
> locally because university students really aren't all that smart.
>
> Cindy Hamilton
>

That is something I can agree with.

[gfre...@aol.com]

Those countries have hard borders. Here not so much. They also have
much more compliant residents. They can actually enforce a quarantine.
Here not so much. In fact you defended the people getting off infected
ships and "going home to be with their families". Their families were
in New York and New Jersey. How did that work out for you?

[gfre...@aol.com]

A few, certainly not a lot on any kind of per capita basis.

There were 944 deaths due to covid in the 18-29 cohort as of
10/28/2020.
Out of nearly a quarter million total covid deaths, that is not
statistically significant.
https://data.cdc.gov/NCHS/Provisional-COVID-19-Death-Counts-by-Sex-Age-and-S/9bhg-hcku

>
> Mom and dad are not around so they are
>> not worried about giving it to them. The administration is trying to
>> crack down on big parties
>
>
>
>Which administration is that? Not Trump, he's holding death rallies.
>And in FL, the moron governor there has followed Trump.
>

Your TDS is showing again ... THE COLLEGE ADMINISTRATION, what we were
talking about.

[Bob F]

A LEADER! That's a great idea.

[Bob F]

trump has no platform. That's the way he wanted it.
Go ahead. Show us the trump convention platform.

[Bob F]

And now we have - Ordering his AG's to stop prosecution of a Turkish
bank for aiding funding of Iran.

[Bob F]

None of those are reasons I support Biden.

[Bob F]

And now you can add trump telling his AG's to stop prosecution of a
Turkish bank for aiding funding on Iran.

[micky]

In alt.home.repair, on Thu, 29 Oct 2020 20:30:21 -0700, Bob F

<bobn...@gmail.com> wrote:

>On 10/29/2020 3:58 PM, Frank wrote:
>> On 10/29/2020 5:46 PM, T wrote:
>>> On 2020-10-29 13:08, Bob F wrote:
>>>> On 10/29/2020 11:29 AM, Frank wrote:
>>>>> On 10/29/2020 7:53 AM, Hawk wrote:
>>>>>> On 10/28/2020 10:29 PM, T wrote:
>>>>>>> 13 seconds:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KbqUBk-J1wo
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> And fools are voting for him....ROFLMFAO!
>>>>>
>>>>> Democrats do not care.  All they are doing is voting against Trump.
>>>>>
>>>>> What will bite them in the ass is if Biden's/the Democrat party's
>>>>> programs are enacted.
>>>>
>>>> And we are sooooo looking forward to that.
>>>>
>>>
>>> I bet you are comrade.
>>>
>>>      “You shall not covet your neighbor’s house. You shall
>>>      not covet your neighbor’s wife, or his manservant or
>>>      maidservant, his ox or donkey, or anything that belongs
>>>      to your neighbor.”
>>>
>>
>> Yeah, oh boy, open borders,

A lie by Republicans

> higher taxes,

On those making more than what was it, 400,000, 300,000,I forget. Does
the previous poster earn more than that.

> higher gas prices,

Nope


>>severely
>> limited gun ownership

I think he said no to that. Not sure but you own enough guns already.

>>and more crime. 

Baloney.


> He can't wait.

A fool who believes the lies trump and the republicans tell.

>
>None of those are reasons I support Biden.

Me neither, except for repealing the ridiculous tax break to rich
people.

[micky]

In alt.home.repair, on Thu, 29 Oct 2020 20:35:04 -0700, Bob F

Huh? I thought stumpie liked to hurt Iran and that if Turkey was
helping it, stumpie wouldn't like that either.

Why would he stop it? Yes, it could be as little as erdowan or hannity
saying it was a good idea to stop, but do you know why?

[Frank]

He promise these things, you two numbnuts.

On crime, he even has a commercial advocating no cash bail. You can see
what that did for NYC.

[angelica...@yahoo.com]

The University administration.

Here, they've restricted undergrads to their dorms except to go to meals
and classes that can't be held remotely like chem lab.

Cindy Hamilton

[trader_4]

On Thursday, October 29, 2020 at 9:30:54 PM UTC-4, gfre...@aol.com wrote:
> On Thu, 29 Oct 2020 15:58:12 -0700 (PDT), trader_4
> <tra...@optonline.net> wrote:
>
> >On Thursday, October 29, 2020 at 5:03:30 PM UTC-4, T wrote:
> >> On 2020-10-29 13:40, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
> >> > On 10/29/2020 2:26 PM, Frank wrote:
> >> >
> >> >>> 83 days until we can say "former president Trump". I wonder what's
> >> >>> going to happen to COVID-19 then.
> >> >>>
> >> >> Socialist Europe cannot solve the problem.  Do you clowns really
> >> >> expect a socialist America to do it?
> >> >
> >> > No, but I expected a strong America to follow a strong leader to do the
> >> > right thing.  South Korea, Austrailia, others are doing much better than
> >> > us.
> >>
> >> Different time frames and different populations. This is not
> >> a scientific comparison. Just random opinion.
> >
> >That is another Trumptard lie. Those countries have a very low Covid infection right now, liar.
>
> Those countries have hard borders. Here not so much.

Are we back to that again? In all the coverage of Covid, I have never heard
that it arrived via illegal entry at the Canadian or Mexican border. If
you have such data, please present it.

They also have
> much more compliant residents. They can actually enforce a quarantine.
> Here not so much.

Yes, that's right, because we have an unfit, mental shyster as president,
instead of a leader. He said he was a wartime president with the arrival
of Covid. Then within weeks he surrendered and then joined the armed
militias storming the state capitol. Since then it's only gotten worse,
right now he's holding death rallies, helping spread Covid and kill people.

In fact you defended the people getting off infected
> ships and "going home to be with their families". Their families were
> in New York and New Jersey. How did that work out for you?

I never defended any such thing. From what I saw the people coming off the
ships were sent to quarantine facilities. That is what was done in CA.
They had to secure housing for them before they could come in.
I think you've claimed that FL just let them go home. IDK if that's true
or not, but if so, then it's Desantis, a Trump sycophant that did it.
So you're alleging that your governor sent people here that spread the disease.
That would be terrible, you should be ashamed, but even if true, it didn't have much to do with the spread. The overwhelming vector here was people coming in
from Europe.

[trader_4]

Who says 1 in 250 deaths is not statistically significant? And those
are deaths, not hospitalization or people who still have symptoms and
are suffering months later, possibly with permanent damage.

> https://data.cdc.gov/NCHS/Provisional-COVID-19-Death-Counts-by-Sex-Age-and-S/9bhg-hcku
>
>
>
> >
> > Mom and dad are not around so they are
> >> not worried about giving it to them. The administration is trying to
> >> crack down on big parties
> >
> >
> >
> >Which administration is that? Not Trump, he's holding death rallies.
> >And in FL, the moron governor there has followed Trump.
> >
> Your TDS is showing again ... THE COLLEGE ADMINISTRATION, what we were
> talking about.

Sad when college adminstrators are more competent than the president.

[gfre...@aol.com]

On Fri, 30 Oct 2020 01:49:25 -0400, micky <NONONO...@fmguy.com>
wrote:

>> higher taxes,
>
>On those making more than what was it, 400,000, 300,000,I forget. Does
>the previous poster earn more than that.

If you raise the corporate tax that is a regressive tax paid by all
and will hit the poor harder than the rich. Corporations tack profit
on that tax and let the cost trickle down through the prices they
charge.
It is just another line item on the expense side of the ledger. You
know damned good and well it is not coming out of the CEO's pay.

Their other option is to move the profit offshore and use loopholes
like Amazon and Netflix do.

"The companies, which include tech giants such as Amazon and Netflix,
should have paid a collective $16.4 billion in federal income taxes
based on the Tax Cuts and Jobs Act's 21 percent corporate tax rate,
according to the left-leaning Institute on Taxation and Economic
Policy. Instead, these corporations received a net tax rebate of $4.3
billion."

<https://www.cbsnews.com/news/2018-taxes-some-of-americas-biggest-companies-paid-little-to-no-federal-income-tax-last-year/>

[gfre...@aol.com]

On Fri, 30 Oct 2020 08:10:31 -0700 (PDT), trader_4

<tra...@optonline.net> wrote:

>On Thursday, October 29, 2020 at 9:30:54 PM UTC-4, gfre...@aol.com wrote:
>> On Thu, 29 Oct 2020 15:58:12 -0700 (PDT), trader_4
>> <tra...@optonline.net> wrote:
>>
>> >On Thursday, October 29, 2020 at 5:03:30 PM UTC-4, T wrote:
>> >> On 2020-10-29 13:40, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>> >> > On 10/29/2020 2:26 PM, Frank wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> >>> 83 days until we can say "former president Trump". I wonder what's
>> >> >>> going to happen to COVID-19 then.
>> >> >>>
>> >> >> Socialist Europe cannot solve the problem.  Do you clowns really
>> >> >> expect a socialist America to do it?
>> >> >
>> >> > No, but I expected a strong America to follow a strong leader to do the
>> >> > right thing.  South Korea, Austrailia, others are doing much better than
>> >> > us.
>> >>
>> >> Different time frames and different populations. This is not
>> >> a scientific comparison. Just random opinion.
>> >
>> >That is another Trumptard lie. Those countries have a very low Covid infection right now, liar.
>>
>> Those countries have hard borders. Here not so much.
>
>Are we back to that again? In all the coverage of Covid, I have never heard
>that it arrived via illegal entry at the Canadian or Mexican border. If
>you have such data, please present it.

Where do you figure all those cruise ships went? The covid didn't
spontaneously erupt on the ship.

> In fact you defended the people getting off infected
>> ships and "going home to be with their families". Their families were
>> in New York and New Jersey. How did that work out for you?
>
>I never defended any such thing. From what I saw the people coming off the
>ships were sent to quarantine facilities. That is what was done in CA.
>They had to secure housing for them before they could come in.
>I think you've claimed that FL just let them go home. IDK if that's true
>or not, but if so, then it's Desantis, a Trump sycophant that did it.
>So you're alleging that your governor sent people here that spread the disease.
>That would be terrible, you should be ashamed, but even if true, it didn't have much to do with the spread. The overwhelming vector here was people coming in
>from Europe.
>

Nothing of the sort was happening in February/March and DeSantis along
with Broward County did mandate a quarantine but there was no way to
enforce it. You did say it was OK for them to go be with their
families when I brought it up. Don't start lying or I will point out
it makes you no better than trump.
>

[gfre...@aol.com]

On Fri, 30 Oct 2020 08:13:57 -0700 (PDT), trader_4

The people having the "keggers" don't think so and that is all that is
important.

>
>
>> https://data.cdc.gov/NCHS/Provisional-COVID-19-Death-Counts-by-Sex-Age-and-S/9bhg-hcku
>>
>>
>>
>> >
>> > Mom and dad are not around so they are
>> >> not worried about giving it to them. The administration is trying to
>> >> crack down on big parties
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >Which administration is that? Not Trump, he's holding death rallies.
>> >And in FL, the moron governor there has followed Trump.
>> >
>> Your TDS is showing again ... THE COLLEGE ADMINISTRATION, what we were
>> talking about.
>
>Sad when college adminstrators are more competent than the president.

Since neither seems to be able to stop the activity, it is a
distinction without a difference.

[T]

Unfortunately, there are those that would rather mire
in poverty and tyranny than let the guy next to them
do better than they

[Bob F]

So you concede traders point. Repub DeSantis did nothing.

[Bob F]

Erdoğan told him to. And trump has investments in Turkey.

[T]

Ed,

Propaganda is not the way to persuade me.

So far the only thing you have come up with is personal
attacks on him.

You NEED to discuss the issues.

-T

[Bob F]

On 10/30/2020 12:35 PM, gfre...@aol.com wrote:
> On Fri, 30 Oct 2020 01:49:25 -0400, micky <NONONO...@fmguy.com>
> wrote:
>
>>> higher taxes,
>>
>> On those making more than what was it, 400,000, 300,000,I forget. Does
>> the previous poster earn more than that.
>
>
> If you raise the corporate tax that is a regressive tax paid by all
> and will hit the poor harder than the rich. Corporations tack profit
> on that tax and let the cost trickle down through the prices they
> charge.

What incredible BS. It does not matter how many time you repeat this
idiot lie, it is still and idiot lie.

[T]

And they are all personal attacks. Not a word
about the issues

[T]

Oh bull shit. You have not been paying attention.
All you got is personal attacks.

[T]

On 2020-10-29 16:01, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
> On 10/29/2020 5:48 PM, T wrote:
>> On 2020-10-29 13:07, Bob F wrote:
>>> On 10/29/2020 11:37 AM, Frank wrote:
>>>> On 10/29/2020 2:25 PM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>>>>> On 10/29/2020 7:53 AM, Hawk wrote:
>>>>>> On 10/28/2020 10:29 PM, T wrote:
>>>>>>> 13 seconds:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KbqUBk-J1wo
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> And fools are voting for him....ROFLMFAO!
>>>>>
>>>>> Pathetic, yes, but it is out best choice.  Sad we don't have a
>>>>> better choice from either party.
>>>>
>>>> I told you before that if you like neither you should vote the party
>>>> platform.  Neither will be present in 4 years but party programs
>>>> will be in place then.
>>>
>>> That eliminates trump. He does not have one.
>>>
>>
>> Oh bullshit comrade.  Trump is the only candidate in my
>> memory that tells you what he things and acts upon it.
>>
>

> He has no platform.  None.  Nothing to say, "hey I like that idea"

[T]

Comrade,

Are you so foolish that you think folks won't react to you
raising their taxes? This is why the lower the tax
rate, the more the rich pay in taxes. Folks react!

And keep in mind that corporations do not pay taxes.
Their customers pay their taxes. And if their
customers refuse, the corporation goes out of business.

This is a hidden tax on the consumer. G is completely
correct in his statement.

Das Kapital is absolute garbage.

[T]

Lets see Comrade, Cumo forces nursing homes to commie flu
patients and DeSantis set up special facilities for them.
Hmmmmm.......

You live a life of leis, deceit, and hate

[micky]

In alt.home.repair, on Fri, 30 Oct 2020 15:54:19 -0700, Bob F

>Erdo?an told him to. And trump has investments in Turkey.

Oh, of course.

[Ed Pawlowski]

His personal life is one big issue. Do you think he cares about you?
His decisions are based solely on what is best for him, not you, not me,
not the rest of the country. Narcissistic personality does that.

The man should not be running a lemonade stand let alone the USA.He is a
terrible person that is leading us into trouble.
You really want to vote for this man?
https://www.albawaba.com/news/trump-osama-bin-ladens-death-was-faked-back-2011-1387417

[Ed Pawlowski]

On 10/30/2020 7:06 PM, T wrote:

>>>>>
>>>>> I told you before that if you like neither you should vote the
>>>>> party platform.  Neither will be present in 4 years but party
>>>>> programs will be in place then.
>>>>
>>>> That eliminates trump. He does not have one.
>>>>
>>>
>>> Oh bullshit comrade.  Trump is the only candidate in my
>>> memory that tells you what he things and acts upon it.
>>>
>>
>> He has no platform.  None.  Nothing to say, "hey I like that idea"
>
> You have not been paying attention.
>

So, show us the platform so we can evaluate it. That should be easy.

[Ed Pawlowski]

On 10/30/2020 7:04 PM, T wrote:

>>>>>

>>>>> How about voting on accomplishments?
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Good idea.
>>>> Tax reform that helped the wealthy but has not helped the economy
>>>> Mexico paying for a non=existent wall
>>>> Good low cost healthcare for everyone
>>>> Ruined our global image
>>>> Set Iran on the path to develop nuclear weapons
>>>> Was impeached
>>>> Being investigated for tax fraud
>>>> Being accused of rape
>>>> Self confessed pussy grabber
>>>> Defunded the WHO
>>>> Failed and lied about the Corona virus
>>>>
>>>> I will be taking your advice.
>>>>
>>>
>>> Do you have anything that is not outright propaganda?
>>>
>>
>> I had thought about enumerating accomplishments but thought this might
>> happen with him responding exactly like I expected.
>
> And they are all personal attacks.  Not a word
> about the issues
>

Health care is an issue
Iran is an issue
Mexico wall is an issue
Global image is an issue
Tax reform is an issue
WHO is an issue
Corona virus is an issue

You are showing your own lack of comprehension. I never thought of you
as stupid but something happened here when you said no issues.

You evidently think a person with no morals is good to run the country.

[T]

More personal attacks. What issues do you disagree
with him on and why?

[T]

And why? Do not just show a topic.

[T]

Seriously Ed? His platform is really easy to find with
a search engine:

https://www.nationofchange.org/2020/09/17/trumps-platform-planks/

[Ed Pawlowski]

Yes, seriously. That was put together by Clay Reynolds a writer and fan
of Trump. It was not part of the Republican Party official platform.

[Ed Pawlowski]

So you agree there are issues? People with a lack of morals and
suffering from narcissism do not make decision best for the country but
for themselves. You are free to believe him but many of us see through
his BS. He is far worse than the typical politician.

[T]

Can the propaganda and personal attacks and talk about
the issues.

Pick one out from your list and state what is wrong
with the way he is doing things.

You have got someone willing to listen to you. Take
advantage of it. If you continue the mindless hate
and person attacks, I will tune you out.

[T]

There are tons of other hits too

[Bob F]

Because they have no such platform. Nothing! Nada! A party with no goals.

[rbowman]

On 10/30/2020 08:23 PM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
> The man should not be running a lemonade stand let alone the USA.He is a
> terrible person that is leading us into trouble.
> You really want to vote for this man?
> https://www.albawaba.com/news/trump-osama-bin-ladens-death-was-faked-back-2011-1387417
>

It was suspicious when bin Laden supposedly was quietly fed to the
fishes. Now if they'd cut his head off, replace it with a pig's head,
filming the whole episode to be published on youtube it would have sent
a message: "We're the meanest motherfuckers in the valley."

What you're missing is a lot of people are sick of ass kissing
do-nothing 'conservatives' and woke SJWs. Trump is good for lols. The
system is a circus, might ad well have an unpredictable clown in charge.
Sleepy Joe just isn't that interesting.

[rbowman]

On 10/30/2020 08:33 PM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
> Health care is an issue

That Obama and Biden fucked up roylly.

> Iran is an issue
That Obama and Biden fucked up royally, along with Syria and Libya.

> Mexico wall is an issue

Tear down the wall! Let anything that can walk or crawl in.

> Global image is an issue

Besides getting a Peace Prize for winning an election while black Obama
was a laughing stock.

> Tax reform is an issue

How many chances have the Democrats controlled both houses and the
presidency without doing any meaningful reform?

> WHO is an issue

It certainly is. It was started to eradicate malaria, failed utterly,
and has been screwing up ever since. WHO needs it is the question.

> Corona virus is an issue

That I'm sure the Democrats in their infinite wisdom will fix. Killer
Cuomo can be the Virus Czar.

[rbowman]

The working definition of a politician is an amoral narcissist. At least
Trump is good for laughs. We could have had that screeching harridan in
a pants suit.

[gfre...@aol.com]

No, At that time both DeSantis and the county legislature called for a
quarantine of Broward county, (where most of the covid ships landed
and the Florida surge began). Nobody was to go in or out before they
holed up for 2 weeks. The response was a traffic jam on the roads out
of town. Trader said they just wanted to go home to their family. They
did and his state plus the one across the Hudson got slammed.
They tried roadblocks on a few north south roads, asking people to
please quarantine if they were coming or going out of state. The folks
all along the 95 corridor called it gestapo tactics. I doubt anyone
actually quarantined.
What should he do? Murphy and Cuomo certainly didn't do it right.

[gfre...@aol.com]

Explain why not. They pass on every other expense. A tax is just part
of the cost of doing business. Companies who don't pass their costs on
to customers and tack on a profit, fail. I guess you never owned a
business.

[trader_bob]

On 10/30/20 11:51 PM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
> So you agree there are issues?  People with a lack of morals and suffering from narcissism do not make decision best for the country but for themselves.  You are free to believe him but many of us see through his BS.  He is far worse than the typical politician.

Doesn't it strike you as odd that it took about 10 nanoseconds for the FBI to assemble a team to go investigate Bubba Smollett's nascar noose but the FBI has been sitting on the Biden laptop investigation for over a year?


Corrupt democrat privilege?

[trader_4]

Say what? Whenever we bring up the fact that many countries have successfully
dealt with Covid and have very low Covid numbers now, you claim they are all
islands. That's false, China for example is not an island. But even if it
were true, the implication is that Covid came into the US via our land borders.
Ships travel to islands. So I take it you have no evidence that significant
transmission of Covid into the US came via our borders. Not surprising,
because I've never heard it. I would not be surprised though if Trump started
putting that forth, with the usual, "they say.....".

>
>
> > In fact you defended the people getting off infected
> >> ships and "going home to be with their families". Their families were
> >> in New York and New Jersey. How did that work out for you?
> >
> >I never defended any such thing. From what I saw the people coming off the
> >ships were sent to quarantine facilities. That is what was done in CA.
> >They had to secure housing for them before they could come in.
> >I think you've claimed that FL just let them go home. IDK if that's true
> >or not, but if so, then it's Desantis, a Trump sycophant that did it.
> >So you're alleging that your governor sent people here that spread the disease.
> >That would be terrible, you should be ashamed, but even if true, it didn't have much to do with the spread. The overwhelming vector here was people coming in
> >from Europe.
> >
>
> Nothing of the sort was happening in February/March

Nothing of what sort? The NY/NJ area was being seeded by Covid from Europe.
People were stuck on infected cruise ships and had to be allowed into
countries, eg Japan and the US.

and DeSantis along
> with Broward County did mandate a quarantine but there was no way to
> enforce it. You did say it was OK for them to go be with their
> families when I brought it up. Don't start lying or I will point out
> it makes you no better than trump.
> >

What does any of that have to do with your claim that FL allowed Covid
positive cruise ship passengers to disembark and just go home, including
interstate travel? If true, then it's another stunning example of a
Trumptard governor.

[trader_4]

You should get together with Fretwell and get the story straight. Fretwell
claims that DeSantis allowed Covid positive people to disembark from cruise
ships and just go home, including interstate travel. If so, that's very
different than what was going on in California, where such people were taken
to military facilities and quarantined. Personally I think Fretwell is just
wrong again, but then DeSantis is a Trumptard. Can you guys sort it out?

[trader_4]

Nice attempt at obfuscation. Who is the "they" here? You made the claim that
in FL Covid positive cruise ship passengers were allowed to disembark and just
go home, including interstate travel to NY, etc. Now you've tried to morph
that into calls for travel restrictions for people in an entire county,
regardless of infection, which has nothing to do with your claim.

They
> did and his state plus the one across the Hudson got slammed.

That's BS. NYC/NJ were already infected, that's why other states like FL
were so concerned, they saw what was already happening elsewhere. And
again, the primary infection path for NY/NJ/CT has been shown to be from
Europe. But I'm sure some did come from FL, so what's your point?
That FL should have locked down? That DeSantis is reckless, a denier,
like Trump?

> They tried roadblocks on a few north south roads, asking people to
> please quarantine if they were coming or going out of state. The folks
> all along the 95 corridor called it gestapo tactics. I doubt anyone
> actually quarantined.
> What should he do? Murphy and Cuomo certainly didn't do it right.

Actually they did do it right. Our infection rate, case rates, death rates
are among the lowest in the nation right now. And that is AFTER being
caught off guard and having a disaster. We put it down, gave the rest of
the country months to learn, get it right, take simple steps to control
Covid. Steps like social distancing and mandatory masks when out and
in situation where social distancing can't be maintained. Some states
did learn, others chose the Trump denial route, like SD allowing Sturgis
to take place, 250K people together for a week, no masks, no social
distancing, bars open to full capacity. Now the Dakotas have a 60%
positive test rate, highest in the country. Even worse those bikers took
it back across America, the Midwest if on fire too. And what are those
dopey governors doing? Not much. Trump? He's holding death rallies
every day, across America, helping Covid spread. Trump isn't just
Putin's puppet, he's Covid's puppet too.

[gfre...@aol.com]

On Sat, 31 Oct 2020 06:02:43 -0700 (PDT), trader_4

I notice you always leave out airports.

280k people came through the international portals at the New York
airports in July, the latest when I looked at the port authority web
site, August may be up now.

Do you think any of them might be infected?

There are 40,000 hotel rooms in the New York area. Where were you
going to quarantine them all?

> and DeSantis along
>> with Broward County did mandate a quarantine but there was no way to
>> enforce it. You did say it was OK for them to go be with their
>> families when I brought it up. Don't start lying or I will point out
>> it makes you no better than trump.
>> >
>
>What does any of that have to do with your claim that FL allowed Covid
>positive cruise ship passengers to disembark and just go home, including
>interstate travel? If true, then it's another stunning example of a
>Trumptard governor.

How did you plan to stop them? Arrest them?

With your covid numbers I would not be pointing fingers. How stupid
must Murphy and Cuomo be?

[gfre...@aol.com]

On Sat, 31 Oct 2020 06:05:33 -0700 (PDT), trader_4

Cite that mandatory quarantine in California.

[trader_4]

On Friday, October 30, 2020 at 4:12:43 PM UTC-4, gfre...@aol.com wrote:
> On Fri, 30 Oct 2020 08:13:57 -0700 (PDT), trader_4
> <tra...@optonline.net> wrote:
>
> >On Thursday, October 29, 2020 at 9:38:36 PM UTC-4, gfre...@aol.com wrote:
> >> On Thu, 29 Oct 2020 16:02:27 -0700 (PDT), trader_4
> >> <tra...@optonline.net> wrote:
> >>
> >> >On Thursday, October 29, 2020 at 3:58:35 PM UTC-4, gfre...@aol.com wrote:
> >> >> On Thu, 29 Oct 2020 11:26:40 -0700 (PDT), "angelica...@yahoo.com"
> >> >> <angelica...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> >On Thursday, October 29, 2020 at 2:16:02 PM UTC-4, Sam E wrote:
> >> >> >> On 10/29/20 8:48 AM, trader_4 wrote:

> >> >> >> > On Thursday, October 29, 2020 at 7:52:32 AM UTC-4, Hawk wrote:
> >> >> >> >> On 10/28/2020 10:29 PM, T wrote:
> >> >> >> >>> 13 seconds:
> >> >> >> >>>
> >> >> >> >>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KbqUBk-J1wo
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> And fools are voting for him....ROFLMFAO!
> >> >> >> >

> >> >> >> > Why not? Fools last time voted for Trump, despite it being totally obvious
> >> >> >> > that there were many things wrong with him and that he was unfit. It looks
> >> >> >> > like people have had enough and want him to go.

> >> >> >> 83 days until we can say "former president Trump". I wonder what's going
> >> >> >> to happen to COVID-19 then.
> >> >> >

> >> >> >My prediction: not as much as we'd like.
> >> >> >
> >> >> >Too many people are too dumb to take proper precautions. We're having a spike
> >> >> >locally because university students really aren't all that smart.
> >> >> >
> >> >> >Cindy Hamilton
> >> >>
> >> >> The college kids the TV stations have talked to here at FuGU say they
> >> >> know this won't be much more than a bad cold for them and most might
> >> >> not have any trouble at all.
> >> >
> >> >Of course that's another totally wrong conclusion. There are a lot of dead
> >> >college age or younger people.
> >>
> >> A few, certainly not a lot on any kind of per capita basis.
> >>
> >> There were 944 deaths due to covid in the 18-29 cohort as of
> >> 10/28/2020.
> >> Out of nearly a quarter million total covid deaths, that is not
> >> statistically significant.
> >
> >Who says 1 in 250 deaths is not statistically significant? And those
> >are deaths, not hospitalization or people who still have symptoms and
> >are suffering months later, possibly with permanent damage.
> >
> >
> The people having the "keggers" don't think so and that is all that is
> important.
>

I see, so irresponsible keggers get to determine health and safety policy
and law for the country now? I guess if they choose to drink and drive and
kill people that way too, it's OK? Is Trump a kegger too? No, I guess not,
it's just that he figures that type support him and he won't say or do
anything that might cost him a vote. And then he claims he's not a
politician.




> >
> >
> >> https://data.cdc.gov/NCHS/Provisional-COVID-19-Death-Counts-by-Sex-Age-and-S/9bhg-hcku
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> >
> >> > Mom and dad are not around so they are
> >> >> not worried about giving it to them. The administration is trying to
> >> >> crack down on big parties
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >Which administration is that? Not Trump, he's holding death rallies.
> >> >And in FL, the moron governor there has followed Trump.
> >> >
> >> Your TDS is showing again ... THE COLLEGE ADMINISTRATION, what we were
> >> talking about.
> >
> >Sad when college adminstrators are more competent than the president.
>
> Since neither seems to be able to stop the activity, it is a
> distinction without a difference.

No, there is a huge difference. First, colleges have been able to substantially
reduce the spread of Covid. Most of them are CLOSED, doing distance learning.
They have issued consistent messaging advising against parties, telling
students and faculty to practice social distancing and to wear masks.
Trump? He mocks masks, holds death rallies, tells America we should just
go back to normal. Normal includes parties and the rest of the irresponsible
behavior of some of the college students. So one group is on the side
against Covid, slowing the spread. Trump is on Covid's side and he makes
it all the more harder for others in positions of authority to get
people to do the right thing. They are all facing an enormous Trump
headwind and people are dying.

I really have a hard time understanding how you so frequently wind up on
the wrong side of things, denying what you see happening, right now, right
in front of you. Like the above, it's stunning.

[Ed Pawlowski]

He promised low cost healthcare for everyone. A great program. Where
is it?

[trader_4]

On Thursday, October 29, 2020 at 2:38:06 PM UTC-4, Frank wrote:
> On 10/29/2020 2:25 PM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:

> > On 10/29/2020 7:53 AM, Hawk wrote:
> >> On 10/28/2020 10:29 PM, T wrote:
> >>> 13 seconds:
> >>>
> >>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KbqUBk-J1wo
> >>
> >>
> >> And fools are voting for him....ROFLMFAO!
> >

> > Pathetic, yes, but it is out best choice.  Sad we don't have a better
> > choice from either party.
>

> I told you before that if you like neither you should vote the party
> platform. Neither will be present in 4 years but party programs will be
> in place then.

Sadly there are two problems with that. One is that the GOP has no platform
anymore, it's been turned into the cult of Trump. AFAIK, they didn't even
put forth a platform during their convention. How could they? They used to
treat Russia as a foe, NATO as allies. Trump reversed that. They used to
stand for lower spending, Trump substantially increased spending. They
used to be against deficits, Trump doubled them and that's before Covid.
They used to warn of the rising danger of the national debt when it was
$10 tril, now it's $27 tril, up $7 tril under Trump and not a peep. They
used to be strong advocates of freedom and speak out against genocidal
thugs. Now Trump has love affairs with them and when asked about it,
says the US kills a lot of people too. Trump has gutted the GOP and
turned it into his cult. Kushner readily admitted that to Bob Woodward,
he said Trump completed a hostile takeover of the GOP.

The second problem with voting for the GOP is that it condones and rewards
all the GOP who enabled Trump, who made lame excuse after lame excuse for
him or said nothing for four years. They need to learn a lesson. Otherwise
it's like a drunk driver that gets away with it. Gee, I got home driving
last night, guess I wasn't that intoxicated, I'm a good driver. So, they
do it again, they keep doing it, they do it more, until they have a huge
crash. The GOP needs that huge crash and I believe it's coming on Tuesday.
Then we will see if they can learn from the error of their ways of if they
will descend into chaos, infighting and the Trumpets will demand another
unfit, crazy flame breathing moron because it makes them feel good.
The ahole TRump of course will still be there, destructive, divisive,
making it impossible for the GOP to recover by tweeting, being on cable,
whatever he can do, because it's always been about Trump, Trump, Trump.

[Ed Pawlowski]

Show me one from the Republican Party. I can't find it. Hits from
other places don't count. Authentic does.

[trader_4]

On Friday, October 30, 2020 at 7:04:14 PM UTC-4, T wrote:
> On 2020-10-29 16:05, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
> > On 10/29/2020 6:54 PM, Frank wrote:
> >> On 10/29/2020 5:47 PM, T wrote:
> >>> On 2020-10-29 13:38, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
> >>>> On 10/29/2020 2:40 PM, T wrote:

> >>>>> On 2020-10-29 11:37, Frank wrote:
> >>>>>> On 10/29/2020 2:25 PM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
> >>>>>>> On 10/29/2020 7:53 AM, Hawk wrote:
> >>>>>>>> On 10/28/2020 10:29 PM, T wrote:
> >>>>>>>>> 13 seconds:
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KbqUBk-J1wo
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> And fools are voting for him....ROFLMFAO!
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Pathetic, yes, but it is out best choice.  Sad we don't have a
> >>>>>>> better choice from either party.
> >>>>>>

> >>>>>> I told you before that if you like neither you should vote the
> >>>>>> party platform.  Neither will be present in 4 years but party
> >>>>>> programs will be in place then.
> >>>>>

> >>>>> How about voting on accomplishments?
> >>>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> Good idea.
> >>>> Tax reform that helped the wealthy but has not helped the economy
> >>>> Mexico paying for a non=existent wall
> >>>> Good low cost healthcare for everyone
> >>>> Ruined our global image
> >>>> Set Iran on the path to develop nuclear weapons
> >>>> Was impeached
> >>>> Being investigated for tax fraud
> >>>> Being accused of rape
> >>>> Self confessed pussy grabber
> >>>> Defunded the WHO
> >>>> Failed and lied about the Corona virus
> >>>>
> >>>> I will be taking your advice.
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>> Do you have anything that is not outright propaganda?
> >>>
> >>
> >> I had thought about enumerating accomplishments but thought this might
> >> happen with him responding exactly like I expected.
> >

> > Glad I met your expectations.  I don't see anyone showing they are not
> > true though.
> > This is the guy you want as President?
> > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Donald_Trump_sexual_misconduct_allegations
> >
>
> Ed,
>
> Propaganda is not the way to persuade me.
>
> So far the only thing you have come up with is personal
> attacks on him.
>
> You NEED to discuss the issues.
>
> -T

Funny, this coming from the big Trumpet. Most of what Trump does is personal
attacks. This week Trump's buddy, surrogate and lawyer Ruddy has been on
his radio show leveling the most vile attacks possible against the Bidens.
He went so low that he accused Joe of being a bad father, of being responsible
for making his son into a heroin addict. The sexual assault allegations
against Trump are on record, it's not made up. And Ed isn't the president,
either.

[Bod]

It's only weeks away, it'll be tremendous/super and fantastic, the best
health care in the world. They said it couldn't be done, but your
President found a way.

[trader_4]

That's a good one, Mr. T! Ed just showed you a prime example, a very recent
example of how unfit, awful and damaging to the country Trump is. And you
try to claim it's just a personal attack? Trump, the madman, sent out that
tweet, claiming that the US did not kill Bin Laden, that it was faked and
that Obama and Biden had US troops deliberately killed to cover it up.
This is sick, crazy, conspiracy BS and the president is spreading it.
Then Trump says he loves our troops? That's how you show your support for
our military? Brave men went out on that dangerous mission for us and
killed Bin Laden. Trump is disparaging them and their accomplishment.
Further spreading these lies totally undermines the credibility of the US
and our partner countries in the fight against terrorism. It gives terrorists
a new recruiting tool to use. Trump is manufacturing lies for them.
And like Ed said, Trump did this because it made him feel good. He didn't
care about what it did to the US, our military. He didn't care about the
truth. He's a malignant narcissist with an extreme present hedonism
complex. And if one day this goes further and results in an epic disaster,
historians for generations will be saying that it was so obvious that
something was mentally wrong with Trump, that he was unfit, why didn't someone
do something?

Actually, we're having a disaster right now, Covid. And Trump just lies and
denies, says it's going away when it's increasing. No, it's much worse.
He's running around holding death rallies
across America, few masks, mocking masks, no social distancing. He's
killing people right before your eyes. How about that re-election issue?

[Bob F]

Companies that choose to pay their CEOs billions can afford to pay some
tax. Maybe a lot more, and they might adjust their priorities, like they
used to be when they actually made something useful and pay employees a
living wage.

[trader_4]

The stunning example of that right now is that Trump is holding death rallies
across the country. He's putting his desperate attempt to get re-elected
ahead of the lives of Americans. He mocks masks, holds these rallies with
few masks and no social distancing, it's spreading Covid! Covid that could
then kill Ed, me or you. You have to be a member of the cult of Trump
to not see that. It's like the Jim Jones bunch, they didn't see it either.
But like Cindy said, at least Jones only killed 900.

[trader_4]

On Thursday, October 29, 2020 at 5:48:35 PM UTC-4, T wrote:
> On 2020-10-29 13:07, Bob F wrote:

> > On 10/29/2020 11:37 AM, Frank wrote:
> >> On 10/29/2020 2:25 PM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
> >>> On 10/29/2020 7:53 AM, Hawk wrote:
> >>>> On 10/28/2020 10:29 PM, T wrote:
> >>>>> 13 seconds:
> >>>>>
> >>>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KbqUBk-J1wo
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> And fools are voting for him....ROFLMFAO!
> >>>
> >>> Pathetic, yes, but it is out best choice.  Sad we don't have a better
> >>> choice from either party.
> >>
> >> I told you before that if you like neither you should vote the party
> >> platform.  Neither will be present in 4 years but party programs will
> >> be in place then.
> >

> > That eliminates trump. He does not have one.
> >
>
> Oh bullshit comrade. Trump is the only candidate in my

> memory that tells you what he things and acts upon it.

Sure, like praising Putin, accepting his lies, acting on them. Trump did
that big time, many times. One time was when Trump spread the Putin lies
that Russia did not meddle in our 2016 election. Trump lied for Putin and
vilified our intel agencies that had the truth. The other time, Trump
believed the beyond stupid Russian lies that the DNC servers were spirited
off to Ukraine, that Crowdstrike is a Ukranian company, (a simple Google will show that BS), and Trump acted on them, trying to extort the president of
Ukraine. That got him impeached. That's some mighty fine thinking and
acting there.

[angelica...@yahoo.com]

You mean the market won't take care of it by rewarding companies
that keep their prices low to attract customers?

Color me amazed.

Cindy Hamilton

[FromTheRafters]

trader_bob formulated on Saturday :

No, the Republicans (read as "Trump") wanted an October surprise which
would not show itself as a nothingburger until after many votes had
already been cast.

[Bob F]

Like the stupid college kids, he's got trump telling him what to do.
trump, who cannot tell the truth.