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Buck Turgidson
Apr 14, 2001, 10:00:27 AM4/14/01
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I have a Sears Lawnmower, about a year old. It doesn't bag the grass worth a darn.
I'll cut the whole lawn, and the bag won't even be 1/4 full. I don't claim to be a
genius, but I can only see one way to put the bag on, so let's assume I've done
that correctly.
I'll cut the whole lawn, and the bag won't even be 1/4 full. I don't claim to be a
genius, but I can only see one way to put the bag on, so let's assume I've done
that correctly.
It is a mulching lawnmower, with the curved blade. Would buying a flat blade help?
I am guessing that the motor is so powerful (6.75 hp, not self-propelled), that it
is mulching and pulverizing before it can bag it.
Appreciate any responese.
Robert A. Barr
Apr 14, 2001, 12:03:08 PM4/14/01
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>
>
> Appreciate any responese.
>
> Appreciate any responese.
Clean the underside of the deck. When wet grass accumulates there, it can't duct the
clippings anymore.
db...@sprynet.com
Apr 14, 2001, 12:08:07 PM4/14/01
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you dont want it to be bagged, I got a toro self prop. mulching mowere
and if you dont let the grass grow too high there is nothing to catch
(we dont have a bagger). just a little bit of trash on the sidewalk that
i blow with the leaf blower. Under my mower this last week i took about
1 inch of grass clippings from the bottom of the deck with a putty knife
and hosed the underside, i guess this might help you. the blade under
my toro seems to have an extra part to it, it guess this is what keeps
the grass under the deck and the blade just goes around again and
mulches it. Might be wrong, why not check with a lawn mow. rep. shop,
it just might be that you hve to take off the mulch blade to get the
clippings into the bag???
Michael Baugh
Apr 14, 2001, 12:47:19 PM4/14/01
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It's a mulching mower. It shouldn't even have a bag.
And it sounds like it is mulching very well. So what's the problem?
Other than the idiots at Sears that sold a mulching mower with a bag.
And it sounds like it is mulching very well. So what's the problem?
Other than the idiots at Sears that sold a mulching mower with a bag.
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Al Wing
Apr 14, 2001, 1:07:27 PM4/14/01
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>It's a mulching mower. It shouldn't even have a bag.
>And it sounds like it is mulching very well. So what's the problem?
>Other than the idiots at Sears that sold a mulching mower with a bag.
>
>And it sounds like it is mulching very well. So what's the problem?
>Other than the idiots at Sears that sold a mulching mower with a bag.
>
It sounds like a dual capacity for both regular mowing (using the bag) or
mulching. In either case the blade must be changed. Sears have pretty good
owners manuals. You know what they say "if all else fails, read the owners
manual".
Al
Buck Turgidson
Apr 14, 2001, 1:15:35 PM4/14/01
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Yes, it's a dual-purpose mower. I guess I didn't make that clear. According to
the manual, you just alternate between the two by closing the side chute and the
back chute, where the bag sits.
the manual, you just alternate between the two by closing the side chute and the
back chute, where the bag sits.
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Bill Browning
Apr 14, 2001, 3:01:34 PM4/14/01
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Buck,
It is much better for the grass to mulch the clippings into the lawn as
your mower is doing. It puts the nutrients and humus down there where they
will be reused by the little plants. The humus that results from
disintegration of the clippings helps conserve moisture and insulate the
roots from overheating by the sun.
The only thing you lose is that you don't have to bag up the clippings
and haul them away; and you don't have to lug in as much fertilizer or water
as much. For the same reason, it's better to set your lawn mower as high as
it will go and let the blades of grass produce energy for the roots and
shade the roots.
Bill B.
Buck Turgidson <jc...@spamisnotcool.hotmail.com> wrote in message
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It is much better for the grass to mulch the clippings into the lawn as
your mower is doing. It puts the nutrients and humus down there where they
will be reused by the little plants. The humus that results from
disintegration of the clippings helps conserve moisture and insulate the
roots from overheating by the sun.
The only thing you lose is that you don't have to bag up the clippings
and haul them away; and you don't have to lug in as much fertilizer or water
as much. For the same reason, it's better to set your lawn mower as high as
it will go and let the blades of grass produce energy for the roots and
shade the roots.
Bill B.
Buck Turgidson <jc...@spamisnotcool.hotmail.com> wrote in message
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Bob Niles
Apr 14, 2001, 4:27:59 PM4/14/01
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I have a Sears dual purpose mulching mower than converts to a bagger.
Be sure you remove the plastic mulching insert (behind the bag door)
before installing the bag.
Buck Turgidson
Apr 14, 2001, 4:58:42 PM4/14/01
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C'mon, give me some credit...
"Bob Niles" <rjn...@bigfoot.com> wrote in message
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Leinie
Apr 15, 2001, 1:32:26 AM4/15/01
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Make sure the blade is not upsidedown
Bob Niles
Apr 15, 2001, 7:57:55 AM4/15/01
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You're the one who asked for help. I've seen some pretty stupid
questions in this NG.
questions in this NG.
On Sat, 14 Apr 2001 20:58:42 GMT, "Buck Turgidson"
Doconnell48
Apr 15, 2001, 11:24:25 AM4/15/01
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I once had one of these monsters and it never, and I mean never, bagged
anything. The grass always caught under the mower whether I cut it high or low,
often or when it was overgrown. I gave up on it and ended up using it only to
mulch. Even that was a pain. I ended up with a non-sears or side throwing
mower.
anything. The grass always caught under the mower whether I cut it high or low,
often or when it was overgrown. I gave up on it and ended up using it only to
mulch. Even that was a pain. I ended up with a non-sears or side throwing
mower.
Mulch.
dan
Please remove nospam in email address to contact me.
dawnw...@gmail.com
Oct 14, 2015, 7:16:03 PM10/14/15
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But my sears mower did catch grass last week and now won't tonight. Side I closed the side door. I didn't need to change blade last week. So now what's the trick. I don't have an owners manual.
Bob F
Oct 14, 2015, 7:23:38 PM10/14/15
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Tony Hwang
Oct 14, 2015, 8:55:50 PM10/14/15
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mako...@yahoo.com
Oct 15, 2015, 9:21:18 AM10/15/15
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I don't know what the answer is but I do know that it is NOT due to the horse power of the engine.
Engines are governed to run at 3600 RPM and if you have more HP it still runs at 3600 RPM. More HP just means it can maintain 3600 RPM with a heavier load. It shouldn't be going over 3600 RPM.
Mark
Oren
Oct 15, 2015, 1:18:19 PM10/15/15
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On Wed, 14 Oct 2015 18:55:39 -0600, Tony Hwang <drag...@shaw.ca>
wrote:
...or adjust the deck height at the wheels
wrote:
Colonel Edmund Burke
Oct 15, 2015, 1:32:07 PM10/15/15
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On 10/14/2015 4:15 PM, dawnw...@gmail.com wrote:
> But my sears mower did catch grass last week and now won't tonight. Side I closed the side door. I didn't need to change blade last week. So now what's the trick. I don't have an owners manual.
>
Ass . . . grass . . . or cash. No free rides.
> But my sears mower did catch grass last week and now won't tonight. Side I closed the side door. I didn't need to change blade last week. So now what's the trick. I don't have an owners manual.
>
philo
Oct 15, 2015, 2:31:33 PM10/15/15
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On 10/14/2015 06:15 PM, dawnw...@gmail.com wrote:
> But my sears mower did catch grass last week and now won't tonight. Side I closed the side door. I didn't need to change blade last week. So now what's the trick. I don't have an owners manual.
>
Catching and discarding grass is nothing but insanity.
> But my sears mower did catch grass last week and now won't tonight. Side I closed the side door. I didn't need to change blade last week. So now what's the trick. I don't have an owners manual.
>
I'd set it to mulch and let the cut grass serve as fertilizer and no
waste to deal with.
Dan Espen
Oct 15, 2015, 3:12:33 PM10/15/15
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What "door" did you close?
Do you think that may have something to do with your problem?
--
Dan Espen
Colonel Edmund Burke
Oct 15, 2015, 3:47:02 PM10/15/15
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LOL
Colonel Edmund Burke
Oct 15, 2015, 3:49:04 PM10/15/15
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On 10/15/2015 10:18 AM, Oren wrote:
>>> Plugged up grass chute?
That's preferable to a plugged up poop chute.
LOL
Oren
Oct 15, 2015, 4:45:32 PM10/15/15
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On Thu, 15 Oct 2015 15:12:27 -0400, Dan Espen <des...@verizon.net>
wrote:
Mulching mowers have a side chute to discharge grass clippings in lieu
of a collection bag on the rear. I thought you knew that.
Pick your purpose.
wrote:
of a collection bag on the rear. I thought you knew that.
Pick your purpose.
cl...@snyder.on.ca
Oct 15, 2015, 6:04:20 PM10/15/15
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it up and drop it. Baggers can be rear or side (or top) discharge to
the bag. Many mowers can rear bag, side dischrge, or mulch.
Josh
Oct 15, 2015, 6:39:15 PM10/15/15
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1) Collect in a bag to the rear, by installing the bag and flipping a
lever that unblocks the path.
2) Side discharge, by replacing a side cover with a discharge chute.
3) Mulch directly onto the lawn below the deck, with the side and
rear paths closed.
I do #3 almost always. I don't quite understand the purpose of side
discharging with a mower that can mulch; if the grass is that thick
the rows of discharge are going to be too much also. I've bagged once
or twice when we had people coming over to do activities on the lawn,
but it's a pain to stop and empty the bag every 5-10 minutes (and to
figure out when it's full, at least with mine)
Josh
Oren
Oct 15, 2015, 6:48:17 PM10/15/15
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Down here is America, their is a side chute to throw clippings, out
the side, bag it to collect the grass or cut and drop the grass on the
ground without the bag. You guys must be special.
cl...@snyder.on.ca
Oct 15, 2015, 7:29:33 PM10/15/15
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side (or rear). A side discharge mower is NOT a mulching mower.
Josh
Oct 15, 2015, 7:48:44 PM10/15/15
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directly below (they get circulated through the blade multiple times
before settling on the ground). Some of them (like mine) can also be
used in a side-discharge mode, but the clippings aren't nearly as fine
when used that way (and you can get the ugly rows of clumps that can
cause other problems).
But we don't know what type of mower the OP has -- it may be a
non-mulching mower that just side-discharges or bags, or may do all
three. If it does all 3 modes, there's probably another lever or flap
to allow the clippings into the bag, separate from the side discharge
flap/control. Posting a model number or any info might help find a
manual online.
Josh
Oren
Oct 16, 2015, 9:28:41 AM10/16/15
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I left out a smiley face...it can bag from the rear bag or discharge
from the side, too.
Bob F
Oct 17, 2015, 12:32:40 AM10/17/15
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Oren wrote:
> I guess in Canada people can't figure out how a mulching mower works.
>
> Down here is America, their is a side chute to throw clippings, out
> the side, bag it to collect the grass or cut and drop the grass on the
> ground without the bag. You guys must be special.
Not on mine. No side chute at all.
> I guess in Canada people can't figure out how a mulching mower works.
>
> Down here is America, their is a side chute to throw clippings, out
> the side, bag it to collect the grass or cut and drop the grass on the
> ground without the bag. You guys must be special.
cl...@snyder.on.ca
Oct 17, 2015, 1:02:44 AM10/17/15
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On Fri, 16 Oct 2015 21:18:34 -0700, "Bob F" <bobn...@gmail.com>
wrote:
Dedicated "mulching mowers" have no discharge chute, and no provision
for bagging. They require higher horsepower than non-mulching mowers.
Before mulching-capable lawnmowers came on the market a 4HP engine was
a BIG engine for a mower less than 24 inches wide. 6.5HP became the
standard for 21 inch mulching mowers.
wrote:
for bagging. They require higher horsepower than non-mulching mowers.
Before mulching-capable lawnmowers came on the market a 4HP engine was
a BIG engine for a mower less than 24 inches wide. 6.5HP became the
standard for 21 inch mulching mowers.
Tony Hwang
Oct 17, 2015, 10:40:17 AM10/17/15
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bag and install a plug attachment. Local climate is not good for
mulching tho. It has Kawasaki engine. I think mulching is tossing
up/down grass clippings until they get light enough to drop down
spreading mulch on the lawn but here they don't compost well, will
choke grass.
cl...@snyder.on.ca
Oct 17, 2015, 12:46:24 PM10/17/15
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On Sat, 17 Oct 2015 08:40:05 -0600, Tony Hwang <drag...@shaw.ca>
wrote:
You need nitrogen to break down the clippings. If you don't
fertilize, the mulch doesn't do a lot of good, and turns to thatch -
but not as badly as if you just blow the clippings out the side and
let them lie.
wrote:
fertilize, the mulch doesn't do a lot of good, and turns to thatch -
but not as badly as if you just blow the clippings out the side and
let them lie.
Dan Espen
Oct 17, 2015, 3:17:31 PM10/17/15
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I think you're mulching whether you have a true mulching mower or
when you use the side discharge chute. The main difference is how
finely chopped the grass gets.
I've been doing my lawn with side discharge for years.
I have no thatch build up.
--
Dan Espen
hrho...@att.net
Oct 17, 2015, 4:54:46 PM10/17/15
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netcop wrote:
"I think you're mulching whether you have a true mulching mower or
when you use the side discharge chute. The main difference is how
finely chopped the grass gets.
I've been doing my lawn with side discharge for years.
I have no thatch build up. "
You must be cutting it fairly close/short, if longer clippings are left on the lawn, thatch does build up.
"I think you're mulching whether you have a true mulching mower or
when you use the side discharge chute. The main difference is how
finely chopped the grass gets.
I've been doing my lawn with side discharge for years.
I have no thatch build up. "
Dan Espen
Oct 17, 2015, 5:08:14 PM10/17/15
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I notice I have a lot of earthworms.
I think they appreciate the fresh food.
I don't know if they eat the clippings, but they probably eat something
the clippings break down into.
I'm pretty sure climate plays a role.
This is central NJ.
--
Dan Espen
cl...@snyder.on.ca
Oct 17, 2015, 5:38:09 PM10/17/15
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On Sat, 17 Oct 2015 15:17:27 -0400, Dan Espen <des...@verizon.net>
wrote:
What's the difference? Just discharged, if you are cutting an inch
off the top of the grass, what comes out the side of the mower is 1
inch long cleanly cut pieces of grass. If you use a mulching mower
what comes out the bottom is more like 1/8" shreds of grass. The
shreds break down quickly, while the long blades of grass dry into
"hay" and form thatch. BIG difference. Also, the mulch drops directly
out the bottom of the mower - meaning it is evenly distributed, while
discharged cuttings form swaths on the lawn, making the "hay" problem
even worse.
blade (high lift) - and if I end up with a heavy windrow I mow over it
again, rechopping it. My grass generally brakes down relatively well-
if it doesn't I know I'm overdue for fertilizing.
Succulent well fertilized grass also composts better and more quickly
than tough, hard, "straw"
wrote:
off the top of the grass, what comes out the side of the mower is 1
inch long cleanly cut pieces of grass. If you use a mulching mower
what comes out the bottom is more like 1/8" shreds of grass. The
shreds break down quickly, while the long blades of grass dry into
"hay" and form thatch. BIG difference. Also, the mulch drops directly
out the bottom of the mower - meaning it is evenly distributed, while
discharged cuttings form swaths on the lawn, making the "hay" problem
even worse.
>
>I think you're mulching whether you have a true mulching mower or
>when you use the side discharge chute. The main difference is how
>finely chopped the grass gets.
>
>I've been doing my lawn with side discharge for years.
>I have no thatch build up.
Likewise. My mower has a side discharge, but is running a mulching
>I think you're mulching whether you have a true mulching mower or
>when you use the side discharge chute. The main difference is how
>finely chopped the grass gets.
>
>I've been doing my lawn with side discharge for years.
>I have no thatch build up.
blade (high lift) - and if I end up with a heavy windrow I mow over it
again, rechopping it. My grass generally brakes down relatively well-
if it doesn't I know I'm overdue for fertilizing.
Succulent well fertilized grass also composts better and more quickly
than tough, hard, "straw"
cl...@snyder.on.ca
Oct 17, 2015, 5:39:25 PM10/17/15
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letting it get mich over 3, so you are never removing more than 1/4 to
1/3 of the blade at any one time.
Percival P. Cassidy
Oct 17, 2015, 5:58:21 PM10/17/15
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On 10/17/2015 05:39 PM, cl...@snyder.on.ca wrote:
>> "I think you're mulching whether you have a true mulching mower or
>> when you use the side discharge chute. The main difference is how
>> finely chopped the grass gets.
>>
>> I've been doing my lawn with side discharge for years.
>> I have no thatch build up. "
>>
>> You must be cutting it fairly close/short, if longer clippings are left on the lawn, thatch does build up.
> The secret is to keep the grass about 2 1/2 inches tall, never
> letting it get mich over 3, so you are never removing more than 1/4 to
> 1/3 of the blade at any one time.
There are differing opinions on that -- or different climates dictate
>> "I think you're mulching whether you have a true mulching mower or
>> when you use the side discharge chute. The main difference is how
>> finely chopped the grass gets.
>>
>> I've been doing my lawn with side discharge for years.
>> I have no thatch build up. "
>>
>> You must be cutting it fairly close/short, if longer clippings are left on the lawn, thatch does build up.
> The secret is to keep the grass about 2 1/2 inches tall, never
> letting it get mich over 3, so you are never removing more than 1/4 to
> 1/3 of the blade at any one time.
different approaches?
No more than one-third at a time, yes.
But how long is where opinions differ: we get emails from the people who
have rolled and aerated our lawns from time to time, and they say that
most domestic lawnmowers can't be set high enough. I have our ride-on
mower set to *its* highest -- 4 inches -- and if I mow every week I'm
still not cutting off more than one-third. I use mulching blades.
We're in Michigan.
> http://msue.anr.msu.edu/resources/mowing-lawn-turf
Perce
Dan Espen
Oct 17, 2015, 9:05:25 PM10/17/15
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I do tend to mow from the outside in with the chute pointing inward.
Most of the grass clippings get multiple rides through the mower.
I doubt that the clippings are 1/2 inch. The average from varying
grass height gives a lot less than 1/2, then the grass ends up above
the blade when it gets cut. Odds are, the average glass clipping
has been sliced up a few times.
Now I want to cut the lawn one last time and collect some clippings...
--
Dan Espen
Vic Smith
Oct 18, 2015, 1:43:25 AM10/18/15
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On Sat, 17 Oct 2015 21:05:21 -0400, Dan Espen <des...@verizon.net>
I use a mulching blade with closed discharge. I don't even see the
clippings unless I've waited until the grass is very high - maybe
cutting off 2 inches or more. Then I just have to slow down.
clippings unless I've waited until the grass is very high - maybe
cutting off 2 inches or more. Then I just have to slow down.
Bob F
Oct 18, 2015, 6:59:03 PM10/18/15
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than it goes and it works fine.
I think the point of mulching is to chop the grass up until it is small enough
to filter through the remaining grass leaves until it doesn't get sucked up
again, so it doesn't show when you're done.
cl...@snyder.on.ca
Oct 18, 2015, 7:14:56 PM10/18/15
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On Sun, 18 Oct 2015 15:58:58 -0700, "Bob F" <bobn...@gmail.com>
wrote:
>cl...@snyder.on.ca wrote:
>> On Sat, 17 Oct 2015 13:54:42 -0700 (PDT), hrho...@att.net wrote:
>>
>>> netcop wrote:
>>>
>>> "I think you're mulching whether you have a true mulching mower or
>>> when you use the side discharge chute. The main difference is how
>>> finely chopped the grass gets.
>>>
>>> I've been doing my lawn with side discharge for years.
>>> I have no thatch build up. "
>>>
>>> You must be cutting it fairly close/short, if longer clippings are
>>> left on the lawn, thatch does build up.
>> The secret is to keep the grass about 2 1/2 inches tall, never
>> letting it get mich over 3, so you are never removing more than 1/4 to
>> 1/3 of the blade at any one time.
>
>Nonsense! The point is not to cut off too much.
Isn't that what I said??
> I set my mower as high or higher
>than it goes and it works fine.
>
>I think the point of mulching is to chop the grass up until it is small enough
>to filter through the remaining grass leaves until it doesn't get sucked up
>again, so it doesn't show when you're done.
>
You are correct.
wrote:
>cl...@snyder.on.ca wrote:
>> On Sat, 17 Oct 2015 13:54:42 -0700 (PDT), hrho...@att.net wrote:
>>
>>> netcop wrote:
>>>
>>> "I think you're mulching whether you have a true mulching mower or
>>> when you use the side discharge chute. The main difference is how
>>> finely chopped the grass gets.
>>>
>>> I've been doing my lawn with side discharge for years.
>>> I have no thatch build up. "
>>>
>>> You must be cutting it fairly close/short, if longer clippings are
>>> left on the lawn, thatch does build up.
>> The secret is to keep the grass about 2 1/2 inches tall, never
>> letting it get mich over 3, so you are never removing more than 1/4 to
>> 1/3 of the blade at any one time.
>
>Nonsense! The point is not to cut off too much.
> I set my mower as high or higher
>than it goes and it works fine.
>
>I think the point of mulching is to chop the grass up until it is small enough
>to filter through the remaining grass leaves until it doesn't get sucked up
>again, so it doesn't show when you're done.
>
Bob F
Oct 20, 2015, 12:17:28 AM10/20/15
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cl...@snyder.on.ca wrote:
> On Sun, 18 Oct 2015 15:58:58 -0700, "Bob F" <bobn...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> cl...@snyder.on.ca wrote:
>>> On Sat, 17 Oct 2015 13:54:42 -0700 (PDT), hrho...@att.net wrote:
>>>
>>>> netcop wrote:
>>>>
>>>> "I think you're mulching whether you have a true mulching mower or
>>>> when you use the side discharge chute. The main difference is how
>>>> finely chopped the grass gets.
>>>>
>>>> I've been doing my lawn with side discharge for years.
>>>> I have no thatch build up. "
>>>>
>>>> You must be cutting it fairly close/short, if longer clippings are
>>>> left on the lawn, thatch does build up.
>>> The secret is to keep the grass about 2 1/2 inches tall, never
>>> letting it get mich over 3, so you are never removing more than 1/4
>>> to 1/3 of the blade at any one time.
>>
>> Nonsense! The point is not to cut off too much.
> Isn't that what I said??
What I am saying is that limiting the grass to some arbitrary # of inches is
> On Sun, 18 Oct 2015 15:58:58 -0700, "Bob F" <bobn...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> cl...@snyder.on.ca wrote:
>>> On Sat, 17 Oct 2015 13:54:42 -0700 (PDT), hrho...@att.net wrote:
>>>
>>>> netcop wrote:
>>>>
>>>> "I think you're mulching whether you have a true mulching mower or
>>>> when you use the side discharge chute. The main difference is how
>>>> finely chopped the grass gets.
>>>>
>>>> I've been doing my lawn with side discharge for years.
>>>> I have no thatch build up. "
>>>>
>>>> You must be cutting it fairly close/short, if longer clippings are
>>>> left on the lawn, thatch does build up.
>>> The secret is to keep the grass about 2 1/2 inches tall, never
>>> letting it get mich over 3, so you are never removing more than 1/4
>>> to 1/3 of the blade at any one time.
>>
>> Nonsense! The point is not to cut off too much.
> Isn't that what I said??
unnecessary, if you prefer it longer.
rwm...@gmail.com
Jul 26, 2016, 2:17:44 PM7/26/16
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On Saturday, April 14, 2001 at 9:00:27 AM UTC-5, Buck Turgidson wrote:
> I have a Sears Lawnmower, about a year old. It doesn't bag the grass worth a darn.
> I'll cut the whole lawn, and the bag won't even be 1/4 full. I don't claim to be a
> genius, but I can only see one way to put the bag on, so let's assume I've done
> that correctly.
>
> It is a mulching lawnmower, with the curved blade. Would buying a flat blade help?
> I am guessing that the motor is so powerful (6.75 hp, not self-propelled), that it
> is mulching and pulverizing before it can bag it.
>
> Appreciate any responese.
OK, enough! I have a Sears Craftsman 6.5 21"rotary lawn Mower with rear discharge. I have the same difficulty with my bag not collecting clippings. Yes, mulching may be good for the grass, BUT... I like to bag my yard and mulch my front lawn. Ohterwise, my dogs track in the backyard blades and I have a mess inside. This unit does have height adjustments but there is no visible height displayed. I understand that grass is healthiest if kept around 3" in height(so I've measured the height of the deck on a flat (cement) surface and added additional 1'2" for the depth of the blade inside the deck. All st. Blade is sharp, bottom of deck scraped clean with a carpet knife. Ready to go.
Not picking up? Manual causes: 1)cutting height too low ~ need to raise cutting height. 2) lift on blade worn off ~ replace blade 3.Catcher not venting air ~ clean grass catcher.
My first 2 issues were addressed. There is no instruction on how to "clean" the grass catcher. I shake it and take a little brush, but that really doesn't seem very effective. I will try hosing it down to see if that helps but I still think there must be a better way of cleaning the catcher (bag). I have my blade sharpened at a lawn & garden place and they never have mentioned anything about the "lift" on the blade being worn off. Maybe this was a problem when they sharpened...I don't know. First, I will make another effort at cleaning out the bag better.
> I have a Sears Lawnmower, about a year old. It doesn't bag the grass worth a darn.
> I'll cut the whole lawn, and the bag won't even be 1/4 full. I don't claim to be a
> genius, but I can only see one way to put the bag on, so let's assume I've done
> that correctly.
>
> It is a mulching lawnmower, with the curved blade. Would buying a flat blade help?
> I am guessing that the motor is so powerful (6.75 hp, not self-propelled), that it
> is mulching and pulverizing before it can bag it.
>
> Appreciate any responese.
OK, enough! I have a Sears Craftsman 6.5 21"rotary lawn Mower with rear discharge. I have the same difficulty with my bag not collecting clippings. Yes, mulching may be good for the grass, BUT... I like to bag my yard and mulch my front lawn. Ohterwise, my dogs track in the backyard blades and I have a mess inside. This unit does have height adjustments but there is no visible height displayed. I understand that grass is healthiest if kept around 3" in height(so I've measured the height of the deck on a flat (cement) surface and added additional 1'2" for the depth of the blade inside the deck. All st. Blade is sharp, bottom of deck scraped clean with a carpet knife. Ready to go.
Not picking up? Manual causes: 1)cutting height too low ~ need to raise cutting height. 2) lift on blade worn off ~ replace blade 3.Catcher not venting air ~ clean grass catcher.
My first 2 issues were addressed. There is no instruction on how to "clean" the grass catcher. I shake it and take a little brush, but that really doesn't seem very effective. I will try hosing it down to see if that helps but I still think there must be a better way of cleaning the catcher (bag). I have my blade sharpened at a lawn & garden place and they never have mentioned anything about the "lift" on the blade being worn off. Maybe this was a problem when they sharpened...I don't know. First, I will make another effort at cleaning out the bag better.
cl...@snyder.on.ca
Jul 26, 2016, 10:33:02 PM7/26/16
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time I wowerd or it didn't bag worth a hoot. When it workes I filled
the bag every other round.
Rusty Boldt
Jul 27, 2016, 4:32:32 AM7/27/16
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On 07/26/2016 08:03 PM, cl...@snyder.on.ca wrote:
> When I used the bagger I always had to wash the bag out evet second
> time I wowerd or it didn't bag worth a hoot. When it workes I filled
> the bag every other round.
Wow! You wowerd evet second time? Does that really workes?
> When I used the bagger I always had to wash the bag out evet second
> time I wowerd or it didn't bag worth a hoot. When it workes I filled
> the bag every other round.
jacko...@gmail.com
Oct 5, 2016, 3:11:17 PM10/5/16
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On Saturday, April 14, 2001 at 8:00:27 AM UTC-6, Buck Turgidson wrote:
> I have a Sears Lawnmower, about a year old. It doesn't bag the grass worth a darn.
> I'll cut the whole lawn, and the bag won't even be 1/4 full. I don't claim to be a
> genius, but I can only see one way to put the bag on, so let's assume I've done
> that correctly.
>
> It is a mulching lawnmower, with the curved blade. Would buying a flat blade help?
> I am guessing that the motor is so powerful (6.75 hp, not self-propelled), that it
> is mulching and pulverizing before it can bag it.
>
> Appreciate any responese.
I don't know if this will help your situation or not, but it sounds a LOT like what 4 of mine were NOT doing....picking up grass clipping. I uploaded what I did on mine at: https://youtu.be/FuYu4CHBzZw
> I have a Sears Lawnmower, about a year old. It doesn't bag the grass worth a darn.
> I'll cut the whole lawn, and the bag won't even be 1/4 full. I don't claim to be a
> genius, but I can only see one way to put the bag on, so let's assume I've done
> that correctly.
>
> It is a mulching lawnmower, with the curved blade. Would buying a flat blade help?
> I am guessing that the motor is so powerful (6.75 hp, not self-propelled), that it
> is mulching and pulverizing before it can bag it.
>
> Appreciate any responese.
I hope this will help.
jacko...@gmail.com
Oct 5, 2016, 3:13:51 PM10/5/16
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On Saturday, April 14, 2001 at 8:00:27 AM UTC-6, Buck Turgidson wrote:
> I have a Sears Lawnmower, about a year old. It doesn't bag the grass worth a darn.
> I'll cut the whole lawn, and the bag won't even be 1/4 full. I don't claim to be a
> genius, but I can only see one way to put the bag on, so let's assume I've done
> that correctly.
>
> It is a mulching lawnmower, with the curved blade. Would buying a flat blade help?
> I am guessing that the motor is so powerful (6.75 hp, not self-propelled), that it
> is mulching and pulverizing before it can bag it.
>
> Appreciate any responese.
I hope this link helps.
> I have a Sears Lawnmower, about a year old. It doesn't bag the grass worth a darn.
> I'll cut the whole lawn, and the bag won't even be 1/4 full. I don't claim to be a
> genius, but I can only see one way to put the bag on, so let's assume I've done
> that correctly.
>
> It is a mulching lawnmower, with the curved blade. Would buying a flat blade help?
> I am guessing that the motor is so powerful (6.75 hp, not self-propelled), that it
> is mulching and pulverizing before it can bag it.
>
> Appreciate any responese.
I have 4 mowers that I found did the same thing as yours', so I uploaded a clip that you can watch. Maybe it'll help. There's too much wind off the blade escaping from under the front of the mower preventing it from having enough to blow into the bag. I hope this helps.
https://youtu.be/FuYu4CHBzZw
Paint...@unlisted.moo
Oct 5, 2016, 6:00:42 PM10/5/16
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now. No Thanks to the idiots at HomoWhinersHub for reposting this 15
year old msg.
Ed Pawlowski
Oct 5, 2016, 7:18:00 PM10/5/16
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mulching blade that is actually mulching.
hankwy...@gmail.com
May 6, 2020, 4:56:20 PM5/6/20
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On Saturday, April 14, 2001 at 10:00:27 AM UTC-4, Buck Turgidson wrote:
> I have a Sears Lawnmower, about a year old. It doesn't bag the grass worth a darn.
> I'll cut the whole lawn, and the bag won't even be 1/4 full. I don't claim to be a
> genius, but I can only see one way to put the bag on, so let's assume I've done
> that correctly.
>
> It is a mulching lawnmower, with the curved blade. Would buying a flat blade help?
> I am guessing that the motor is so powerful (6.75 hp, not self-propelled), that it
> is mulching and pulverizing before it can bag it.
>
> Appreciate any responese.
The current bagging system on MTD-made lawn mowers (Toro, Craftsman, Cub Cadet, Murray, Lawn Boy, etc..) simply does not bag grass. It does a great job of spewing grass under the bag and at the top connection point, everywhere but the bag. Trust me, in 3 days I bought a Toro, Cub Cadet, and a Craftsman just to prove the point to myself. They all are designed exactly the same at the bagging site. I settled on the cheaper Craftsman and will start looking for a "man hack" to fix the flawed design issue. Why did my 30-year oldnJohn Deere die on me??
> I have a Sears Lawnmower, about a year old. It doesn't bag the grass worth a darn.
> I'll cut the whole lawn, and the bag won't even be 1/4 full. I don't claim to be a
> genius, but I can only see one way to put the bag on, so let's assume I've done
> that correctly.
>
> It is a mulching lawnmower, with the curved blade. Would buying a flat blade help?
> I am guessing that the motor is so powerful (6.75 hp, not self-propelled), that it
> is mulching and pulverizing before it can bag it.
>
> Appreciate any responese.
Jim Joyce
May 6, 2020, 7:56:30 PM5/6/20
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years to let the clippings fall. They'll decompose, adding nutrients back
into the soil.
Bob F
May 6, 2020, 10:27:38 PM5/6/20
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https://www.snapper.com/na/en_us/product-catalog/residential/push-mowers/hi-vac-series-lawn-mowers.html
Or, get a non-mulching blade for what you have. Something with some
up-kick to get the air moving out.
micky
May 7, 2020, 1:55:13 AM5/7/20
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In alt.home.repair, on Wed, 06 May 2020 18:56:29 -0500, Jim Joyce
the bag.
>>> genius, but I can only see one way to put the bag on, so let's assume I've done
>>> that correctly.
>>>
>>> It is a mulching lawnmower, with the curved blade. Would buying a flat blade help?
>>> I am guessing that the motor is so powerful (6.75 hp, not self-propelled), that it
>>> is mulching and pulverizing before it can bag it.
>>>
>>> Appreciate any responese.
>>
>>The current bagging system on MTD-made lawn mowers (Toro, Craftsman, Cub Cadet, Murray, Lawn Boy, etc..) simply does not bag grass. It does a great job of spewing grass under the bag and at the top connection point, everywhere but the bag. Trust me, in 3 days I bought a Toro, Cub Cadet, and a Craftsman just to prove the point to myself. They all are designed exactly the same at the bagging site. I settled on the cheaper Craftsman and will start looking for a "man hack" to fix the flawed design issue. Why did my 30-year oldnJohn Deere die on me??
From the Minnesota Tribune.... "John Deere did not wear a mask, wear
gloves, or wash his hands, and he later succombed to the coronavirus.
>Why are you still bagging grass? Lawn experts have been saying for 20-30
>years to let the clippings fall. They'll decompose, adding nutrients back
>into the soil.
Good point. And a lot less work.
<no...@none.invalid> wrote:
>On Wed, 6 May 2020 13:56:16 -0700 (PDT), hankwy...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>>On Saturday, April 14, 2001 at 10:00:27 AM UTC-4, Buck Turgidson wrote:
>>> I have a Sears Lawnmower, about a year old. It doesn't bag the grass worth a darn.
>>> I'll cut the whole lawn, and the bag won't even be 1/4 full. I don't claim to be a
It's a feature, so you don't have to stop work over and over to empty
>On Wed, 6 May 2020 13:56:16 -0700 (PDT), hankwy...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>>On Saturday, April 14, 2001 at 10:00:27 AM UTC-4, Buck Turgidson wrote:
>>> I have a Sears Lawnmower, about a year old. It doesn't bag the grass worth a darn.
>>> I'll cut the whole lawn, and the bag won't even be 1/4 full. I don't claim to be a
the bag.
>>> genius, but I can only see one way to put the bag on, so let's assume I've done
>>> that correctly.
>>>
>>> It is a mulching lawnmower, with the curved blade. Would buying a flat blade help?
>>> I am guessing that the motor is so powerful (6.75 hp, not self-propelled), that it
>>> is mulching and pulverizing before it can bag it.
>>>
>>> Appreciate any responese.
>>
>>The current bagging system on MTD-made lawn mowers (Toro, Craftsman, Cub Cadet, Murray, Lawn Boy, etc..) simply does not bag grass. It does a great job of spewing grass under the bag and at the top connection point, everywhere but the bag. Trust me, in 3 days I bought a Toro, Cub Cadet, and a Craftsman just to prove the point to myself. They all are designed exactly the same at the bagging site. I settled on the cheaper Craftsman and will start looking for a "man hack" to fix the flawed design issue. Why did my 30-year oldnJohn Deere die on me??
gloves, or wash his hands, and he later succombed to the coronavirus.
>Why are you still bagging grass? Lawn experts have been saying for 20-30
>years to let the clippings fall. They'll decompose, adding nutrients back
>into the soil.
CTG
May 28, 2021, 11:34:15 PM5/28/21
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