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Drinking water thru clear vinyl tubing OK ???

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chirisophus

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Jul 16, 2003, 10:35:47 AM7/16/03
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Hi,
Does the clear vinyl tubing found in Lowes, HD etc have any bad effects
on drinking water?

Thanks

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Hell Toupee

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Jul 16, 2003, 1:19:59 PM7/16/03
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chirisophus wrote:
>
> Hi,
> Does the clear vinyl tubing found in Lowes, HD etc have any bad effects
> on drinking water?
>

If it's not labelled as FDA approved for drinking water, it probably
isn't safe to use. The chemical composition of ordinary vinyl tubing and
hoses usually contains substances that are not recommended for
consumption, unless it is certified as safe for drinking water.

HellT

Bob Bowles

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Jul 16, 2003, 12:13:18 PM7/16/03
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Our water for fridge uses heavy tubing, don't use lightweight stuff.

Gary Slusser

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Jul 16, 2003, 3:50:29 PM7/16/03
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"chirisophus" <X_chir...@earthlink.net_X> wrote

I don't know that there's a problem but I also don't know if vinyl
tubing is rated for potable water use but something about the idea turns
me off. Polyethylene tubing (at least some/most) is rated for potable
water use and it doesn't kink like vinyl.

Gary
Quality Water Associates


RikC

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Jul 16, 2003, 5:05:36 PM7/16/03
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Yes, Use PB tubing or something rated safe by the NSF.

rik

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jmagerl

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Jul 16, 2003, 7:38:45 PM7/16/03
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Been there, Done that. Over time the tubing will expand and finally burst.
The walls are not strong enough

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ameijers

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Jul 16, 2003, 8:34:10 PM7/16/03
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"RikC" <vze3...@verizon.net> wrote in message
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> Yes, Use PB tubing or something rated safe by the NSF.
>
> rik
>
> --
Farm supply or fish tank store will have biological-grade (food safe, in
other words) tubing. The big-box store stuff may or may not be rated for
potable water, and unless you see them open a sealed box and/or it is
printed on the tubing?....

aem sends.....

Tom J

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Jul 16, 2003, 8:39:52 PM7/16/03
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"jmagerl" <jma...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> Been there, Done that. Over time the tubing will expand and finally burst.
> The walls are not strong enough
>
> "chirisophus" <X_chir...@earthlink.net_X> wrote in message
> news:7pdRa.103895$Io.89...@newsread2.prod.itd.earthlink.net...
> > Hi,
> > Does the clear vinyl tubing found in Lowes, HD etc have any bad effects
> > on drinking water?

OH, but there is clear tubing that will withstand 250# working pressure, and
it comes in different sizes. It has reenforcing cords moulded in but you can
see right through it. I have water hoses made from it that I use with my RV
for hooking to the campground water supply.

Tom J


Gary Slusser

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Jul 16, 2003, 9:40:40 PM7/16/03
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"RikC" <vze3...@verizon.net> wrote

PB tubing is polybutylene. Is that what you meant because it is no
longer sold in the US.

Gary
Quality Water Associates


Gary Slusser

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Jul 16, 2003, 9:42:23 PM7/16/03
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"Tom J" <tomj...@att.net> wrote
>

> > "chirisophus" <X_chir...@earthlink.net_X> wrote in message
> > news:7pdRa.103895$Io.89...@newsread2.prod.itd.earthlink.net...
> > > Hi,
> > > Does the clear vinyl tubing found in Lowes, HD etc have any bad
effects
> > > on drinking water?
>
> OH, but there is clear tubing that will withstand 250# working
pressure, and
> it comes in different sizes. It has reenforcing cords moulded in but
you can
> see right through it. I have water hoses made from it that I use with
my RV
> for hooking to the campground water supply.
>
> Tom J

But it's not vinyl, IIRC it is PVC.

Gary
Quality Water Associates


Mike Columbo

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Jul 18, 2003, 7:16:38 AM7/18/03
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"Gary Slusser" <qwas...@ptd.net> wrote in message
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Polyvinyl chloride (PVC) is unique in its high chlorine and additives
content, which makes it an environmental poison throughout its life cycle.
Vinyl chloride is a known human carcinogen. PVC releases dioxin and other
persistent organic pollutants during its manufacture and disposal and cannot
be readily recycled due to it chlorine and additive content.


safe for potable water?
you decide.


M.C.
somewhere in Ca.


Chuck

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Jul 18, 2003, 7:45:14 PM7/18/03
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Wrong.

PVC is what almost every new home is plumbed with.

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Mike Columbo

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Jul 19, 2003, 6:54:43 AM7/19/03
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"Chuck" <NoS...@NoSpam.com> wrote in message
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> Wrong.
>
> PVC is what almost every new home is plumbed with.
>


for drains and filtered ice makers...............yes
NOT drinking water.


http://archive.greenpeace.org/~toxics/pvcdatabase/
http://archive.greenpeace.org/~toxics/pvcdatabase/bad.html


see for yourself.


M.C.
somewhere in Ca.

Martin

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Jul 19, 2003, 9:32:05 AM7/19/03
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"Mike Columbo" <MCol...@inCa.net> wrote in message
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>
> "Chuck" <NoS...@NoSpam.com> wrote in message
> news:eE%Ra.248069$nr.10...@twister.southeast.rr.com...
> > Wrong.
> >
> > PVC is what almost every new home is plumbed with.
> >
>
>
> for drains and filtered ice makers...............yes
> NOT drinking water.
>

The refrigerators that have filtered ice makers often have cooled drinking
water taps supplied through the same vinyl tubing.


Gary Slusser

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Jul 19, 2003, 10:12:17 AM7/19/03
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"Mike Columbo" <MCol...@inCa.net> wrote

You might be an uninformed plumber if you.....

Show us where we can find this information because what I find says
otherwise.

Gary
Quality Water Associates


Gary Slusser

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Jul 19, 2003, 10:18:55 AM7/19/03
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"Chuck" <NoS...@NoSpam.com> wrote

Not really. Many codes will not allow PVC to be used inside a building;
mostly due to politics and plumbers IMO but they say it's due to it
getting brittle and potential breakage.

Now had you said CPVC (tan or off white hot and cold version of white
PVC), or PEX (crosslinked polyethylene in various colors for hot and
cold apps), you would be right.

Gary
Quality Water Associates


Gary Slusser

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Jul 19, 2003, 11:31:04 AM7/19/03
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"Mike Columbo" <MCol...@inCa.net> wrote
>
> "Chuck" <NoS...@NoSpam.com> wrote

> > Wrong.
> >
> > PVC is what almost every new home is plumbed with.
> >
>
>
> for drains and filtered ice makers...............yes
> NOT drinking water.
>
>
> http://archive.greenpeace.org/~toxics/pvcdatabase/
> http://archive.greenpeace.org/~toxics/pvcdatabase/bad.html
>
>
> see for yourself.
>
>
> M.C.
> somewhere in Ca.

ummmm "filtered ice makers.... NOT drinking water.". what do you do with
your ice cubes if not put them in your drink?

Well yes, I thought it might be from some far out fringe. I was thinking
those health nut types but tell me, those water bottles I see many of
that and other environmentalists groups drinking from, what are they
made of if not PET etc. that their web site seem to condemn?

And as to their substitutes! Ductile iron, galvanized, copper, aluminum!
as if the gathering of the raw materials and those products are made in
a sterile environment without air and water pollution! Or as if there
are no health effects in those mining them, making them and using them.

And I still want to see the science behind their claims.

Gary
Quality Water Associates


Gary Slusser

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Jul 19, 2003, 11:33:48 AM7/19/03
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"Martin" <mart...@optonline.net> wrote

Could be but are you sure it isn't clear PVC or polyethylene tubing?
They don't kink like vinyl. Should have higher pressure ratings and
larger ID for the same ID tubing (the wall of vinyl is thicker).

Gary
Quality Water Associates


tnmartin

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Jul 20, 2003, 11:46:36 PM7/20/03
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I *CAN'T let this bovine guano go unchallenged.

Exposure to Vinyl chloride monomer can  lead to certain liver cancer if it is inhaled in sufficient concentrations for long enough.  PolyVinyl chloride is another matter entirely.  Representations that it represents a clear and present danger are, at best, a lie.
Oh, and any bonfire burning wood or paper will release certain dioxins.

If you think it's better to have copper pipes and lead solder, go ahead. Investigate the processes of mining, smelting, and forming the copper pipe, and the solder if you wish to make an informed decision.  You may decide that PVC is preferable.

JimS

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Aug 23, 2016, 9:44:05 PM8/23/16
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replying to chirisophus, JimS wrote:
The clear vinyl tubing recommended by Home Depot worker actually has "NOT FOR
ICEMAKER" line printed on the tubing. Too bad I did not see the printing
(pretty faint) until after installation. Need to go back demanding
replacement. The paper label also indicate that it contains chemical
determined to cause cancer in California. So examined the label carefully.

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Ed Pawlowski

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Aug 23, 2016, 10:04:19 PM8/23/16
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On 8/23/2016 9:44 PM, JimS wrote:
> replying to chirisophus, JimS wrote:
> The clear vinyl tubing recommended by Home Depot worker actually has
> "NOT FOR
> ICEMAKER" line printed on the tubing. Too bad I did not see the printing
> (pretty faint) until after installation. Need to go back demanding
> replacement. The paper label also indicate that it contains chemical
> determined to cause cancer in California. So examined the label carefully.
>

Sure, just tell them "I'm too stupid to read so I demand my money back"

Nil

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Aug 24, 2016, 12:01:41 AM8/24/16
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On 23 Aug 2016, JimS
<caedfaa9ed1216d60e...@example.com> wrote in
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> The paper label also indicate that it contains chemical determined
> to cause cancer in California.

So, just stay out of California. Easy peasy!

Paint...@unlisted.moo

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Aug 24, 2016, 4:31:10 AM8/24/16
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Guess what..... ALL plastics contain chemicals that will leach into your
drinking water. One of several reasons I wont use PEX pipe.

mako...@yahoo.com

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Aug 25, 2016, 11:57:11 AM8/25/16
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you guys are slipping up..

this was the perfect case for one of those replies...

the OP died 13 years ago of some horrible disease caused by PVC in his water.

Micky

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Aug 29, 2016, 9:24:11 PM8/29/16
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On Wed, 24 Aug 2016 01:44:02 +0000, JimS
<caedfaa9ed1216d60e...@example.com> wrote:

>replying to chirisophus, JimS wrote:
>The clear vinyl tubing recommended by Home Depot worker actually has "NOT FOR
>ICEMAKER" line printed on the tubing. Too bad I did not see the printing

The worker hasn't got time to read every label either and I doubt they
sell any other kind of tubing. I've bought clear vinyl tubing twice
at HD, in the last 18 months, but somehow I can't remember what either
of them was for.

>(pretty faint) until after installation. Need to go back demanding
>replacement. The paper label also indicate that it contains chemical
>determined to cause cancer in California. So examined the label carefully.

Just about everything has that California warning. They must have
made some mistake when they wrote the law, because I'm sure it's not
doing what they intended.
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