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asbaker

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Jul 14, 2008, 9:00:33 PM7/14/08
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We bought a generator (15000 watt portable Guardian 04582 Guardian
Ultra Source). The manual says to drain gas when storing the
generator. It does NOT say HOW to drain the gas and we cannot find a
dump valve anywhere.

Is anyone here familiar with the unit and able to tell us how to do
this. We're not very knowledgeable seniors :-)

dpb

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Jul 14, 2008, 9:07:11 PM7/14/08
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asbaker wrote:
> We bought a generator (15000 watt portable Guardian 04582 Guardian
> Ultra Source). The manual says to drain gas when storing the
> generator. It does NOT say HOW to drain the gas and we cannot find a
> dump valve anywhere.
...
Not familiar with it, no, but you'll probably have to disconnect the
fuel line going to the carburetor -- if you're lucky it'll be easy to
get to and long enough to get into a container. Loosen tank cap to
provide air.

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Stormin Mormon

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Jul 14, 2008, 9:13:23 PM7/14/08
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The choices, one is to run the unit until it goes dry and stalls. Another
choice is to unhook the hose where it goes into the carb, and drain it
(gravity, slowly) into a gascan. Then run the motor to dry out the carb.

Looks like yours has a five galon overhead tank. How about run the generator
for half hour, every month. That will use up the gas over time.

You'd think that for two grand, someone at the store could tell you? Or it
would be in the manual.

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Paul Franklin

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Jul 14, 2008, 9:53:31 PM7/14/08
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I have a little transfer pump I bought at an auto parts store I use
for stuff like this. it's just manually operated, no motor. I just
pump it back into the gas can. It won't get every drop, but gets most
of it, and then I just start it and let it run until it's dry.

Alternately, you could add some Stabil fuel stabilizer to the gas,
which extends the time you can safely leave the gas in the generator.
You can buy stabil most anywhere they sell lawn and garden gear.


HTH, Paul F.

jack

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Jul 14, 2008, 9:57:56 PM7/14/08
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>
> Alternately, you could add some Stabil fuel stabilizer to the gas,
> which extends the time you can safely leave the gas in the generator.
> You can buy stabil most anywhere they sell lawn and garden gear.
>
That and run it for a few minutes every month.

Claude Hopper

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Jul 15, 2008, 8:53:38 AM7/15/08
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There must be a shut off valve on the tank. Shut it off and remove the
hose going to the carb. Connect a longer hose to the valve going into a
container. Open the valve until it is all drained. Reconnect the carb to
the valve and run the engine until it runs out of gas. Other option is
to siphon the gas out.

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---MIKE---

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Jul 15, 2008, 8:52:53 AM7/15/08
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Storing the generator is not a good idea. It might not work when you
need it. It's better to run it (under load) for 15 minutes once a
month. Then refill the tank when needed and add Stabil.


---MIKE---
>>In the White Mountains of New Hampshire
>> (44° 15' N - Elevation 1580')

franz fripplfrappl

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Jul 15, 2008, 9:23:11 AM7/15/08
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siphon it with a 1/4 or 3/8 inch hose or use turkey baster.

I suspect the reason to empty the tank is a safety issue. You could also
add Stabil to the fuel so it keeps.

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Franz Fripplfrappl

ransley

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Jul 15, 2008, 10:36:16 AM7/15/08
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A gen has to be run with load every 6 months so the field does not
demagnatise. Leaving gas in the carb is bad, you can shut off the fuel
valve and run it dry and put stabil in the tank, but use it up after 6
months. Or you can cut the fuel line add a T and another valve and
hose as a drain line, If your unit has no gas filter now is the time
to add one. Gas left in a carb is the real killer of carbs.

asbaker

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Jul 15, 2008, 1:39:04 PM7/15/08
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Thanks for the suggestions. Though we had tried to drain directly from
the fuel shut-off valve originally, that did not seem to work. We
disconnected the hose from the next place after the shut-off (a
rectangular box thing which had hoses coming into it from the gas tank
and oil and something else - I'm not engine-savvy) and used that hose
to do a gravity drain and it finally worked.

Not only are we interested in draining the gas for storage purposes
(storage meaning when we are not at the Florida house or do not need
the generator), we also have a problem that the year-old floor model
they delivered does not work and they are exchanging it tomorrow. At
the price of gasoline, we wanted our 5 gallons of gas back!

mkir...@rochester.rr.com

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Jul 15, 2008, 2:48:41 PM7/15/08
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On Jul 14, 9:13 pm, "Stormin Mormon"

<cayoung61**spambloc...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> You'd think that for two grand, someone at the store could tell you? Or it
> would be in the manual.

Or, that seemingly normal, intelligent people would have enough common
sense to be able to figure out an extremely simple task on their own...

asbaker

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Jul 15, 2008, 4:32:41 PM7/15/08
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On Jul 15, 2:48 pm, mkirs...@rochester.rr.com wrote:
>
> <cayoung61**spambloc...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> > You'd think that for two grand, someone at the store could tell you? Or it
> > would be in the manual.
>
> Or, that seemingly normal, intelligent people would have enough common
> sense to be able to figure out an extremely simple task on their own...

Not every "intelligent" person understands the parts of an engine. Ask
me to do a problem in trig or calculus and I can probably help you.
Which hose goes where is not that simple to me. The manual says to
drain the gasoline but doesn't say how. In addition, we tried
detaching hoses and they didn't work until we tried this particular
one.

If you do not want to help, try to ignore a posting instead of
insulting the posting people.

HeyBub

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Jul 15, 2008, 5:49:50 PM7/15/08
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asbaker wrote:
>
> Not every "intelligent" person understands the parts of an engine. Ask
> me to do a problem in trig or calculus and I can probably help you.
> Which hose goes where is not that simple to me. The manual says to
> drain the gasoline but doesn't say how. In addition, we tried
> detaching hoses and they didn't work until we tried this particular
> one.
>

Once saw a cartoon of a mechanic holding a part from the doctor's Mercedes.
The caption read: "There's a lot we still don't understand about the
carburetor."


Dottie

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Jul 15, 2008, 7:35:05 PM7/15/08
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I am also a new generator owner but I am not familiar with your
brand. The people around me who have them use Stabil in the gas tank
and usually leave it in there. Others have siphons and take the gas
out using it and put the gas in lawn mowers and stuff at the end of
the hurricane season. I think trying to drain it would require some
mechanical knowhow.

HeyBub

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Jul 15, 2008, 9:51:55 PM7/15/08
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Dottie wrote:
>>
>> Once saw a cartoon of a mechanic holding a part from the doctor's
>> Mercedes. The caption read: "There's a lot we still don't understand
>> about the carburetor."
>
>
>
> I am also a new generator owner but I am not familiar with your
> brand. The people around me who have them use Stabil in the gas tank
> and usually leave it in there. Others have siphons and take the gas
> out using it and put the gas in lawn mowers and stuff at the end of
> the hurricane season. I think trying to drain it would require some
> mechanical knowhow.

Think turkey baster.


Red Green

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Jul 15, 2008, 11:42:31 PM7/15/08
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asbaker <mathb...@gmail.com> wrote in
news:4dad8f45-3f9c-45d3...@d1g2000hsg.googlegroups.com:

So proving x**n + y**n = z**n has no non-zero integer solutions for x, y
and z when n > 2 should be a piece of cake to you :-)


Personally I think Fermat was making a funny when he wrote he had proof
of it but the margin was too narrow to show it.

Alexandra

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Sep 18, 2017, 9:14:11 PM9/18/17
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replying to mkirsch1, Alexandra wrote:
If it's so simple, why couldn't you just help the guy out? He did mention they
are senior citizens... Respect your elders much?

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Uncle Monster

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Sep 18, 2017, 9:17:49 PM9/18/17
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On Monday, September 18, 2017 at 8:14:11 PM UTC-5, Alexandra wrote:
> replying to mkirsch1, Alexandra wrote:
> If it's so simple, why couldn't you just help the guy out? He did mention they
> are senior citizens... Respect your elders much?
> --
>

The OP died 8 years ago and was eaten by feral gerbils. It was a real tragedy and one hell of a mess to clean up. (~_~;)

[8~{} Uncle Sad Monster

Tekkie®

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Sep 19, 2017, 4:12:24 PM9/19/17
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Uncle Monster posted for all of us...
The gerbils get poisoned by gasoline?

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Tekkie

Uncle Monster

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Sep 19, 2017, 4:15:29 PM9/19/17
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The Buddhist gerbils were so upset that they set themselves on fire. ヽ(ヅ)ノ

[8~{} Uncle Immolated Monster

Oren

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Sep 20, 2017, 2:41:32 PM9/20/17
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On Tue, 19 Sep 2017 13:15:23 -0700 (PDT), Uncle Monster
<uncl...@gmail.com> wrote:

>The Buddhist gerbils were so upset that they set themselves on fire.

What about the Zen Buddhist Liquidtarian Breathtarian gerbils. They
only consume Orange Juice and fresh air.

Alhc

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Sep 20, 2018, 4:14:06 PM9/20/18
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replying to mkirsch1, Alhc wrote:
That is not a very nice answer, if you can’t be helpful don’t be
insulting!!!

Travis Bickle

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Sep 20, 2018, 6:33:07 PM9/20/18
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On 9/20/18 4:14 PM, Alhc wrote:
> replying to mkirsch1, Alhc wrote:
> That is not a very nice answer, if you  can’t be helpful don’t be
> insulting!!!
>

Oh, just run off the playground and tell the teacher or your mommy...

BDW

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Feb 26, 2020, 2:14:06 AM2/26/20
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replying to asbaker, BDW wrote:
Well stated!

Meamine

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Nov 23, 2020, 11:01:20 AM11/23/20
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I would say your are quite overcome by the exuberance of your own viscosity.
In other words you probably do not have enough intellect to pour pee out of
your boots

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Weezy

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Dec 21, 2020, 1:07:03 AM12/21/20
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What a bunch of douchebags. Trolling has become a way of life for unhappy people.

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FromTheRafters

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Dec 21, 2020, 9:46:59 AM12/21/20
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Weezy wrote on 12/21/2020 :
> What a bunch of douchebags. Trolling has become a way of life for unhappy
> people.

Ah, drain it into a douchebag, hadn't thpought of that. Thanks.
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