Refrigerator -- terrible smell!

[Higgs Boson]

Desperate! For over a month there has been a terrible smell coming from the refrigerator AND the freezer!!!

Frig. is a medium-end Whirlpool w/top freezer, about 6-7 years old.

I took EVERY item out of the frig, smelled it (nothing) washed the entire frig. section. Did the same with the freezer - where the smell, oddly enough, seems STRONGER! No change; smell still there.

IMPORTANT: When I was cleaning out the freezer, the blast of air SEEMED to be carrying the odor. By now, I am so crazy that I'm not even sure of THAT!

I asked a handyman who was doing some work for me to smell the frig/freezer. Asked him whether an animal could have crawled behind and died. He sensibly replied that if that were the case, the whole kitchen would smell.

So has something gotten into the ?? lines ??? that cool the frig/freezer?

Any suggestions gratefully accepted.

HB

[Ed Pawlowski]

Did you pull out the drain pan? They are easily forgotten and can get
nasty

Did anything spill andget down onto the evaporator coil? Under the drawers?

[Higgs Boson]

OMG Never thought of either!!! I have a brush for the coil, but -- my bad -- never got around to cleaning it.

eHow says:

AppliancePartsPros.com/Parts
How to Drain the Pan

Open the refrigerator door. Pull the base grille off the unit by grabbing it from the top to the bottom. Slide the defrost pan from under the unit. Empty out any water in the pan. Use a sponge or soft cloth along with a mild detergent to wash it. Rinse the pan thoroughly and dry it before putting it back under the unit. Put the base grille back on the unit and close the refrigerator door.
While You’re Down There

While you have the base grille and defrost pan off of your Whirlpool refrigerator, it’s a good idea to clean the condenser coils under the unit. Cleaning the coils every other month helps the refrigerator operate more efficiently, saving on energy use. Use a vacuum cleaner attachment or a soft dust cloth to clean off the dust that collects on the coils.

OK, I will do both of these & post results.

What gets me is how SUDDEN the attack was! That's why I thought a dead critter.

Seems like if some yeccch leaked from the frig into the defrost pan, it would be more gradual? Also. NOTHING in the freezer OR the frig. smelled bad.

Jumping ahead, if my amateurish efforts with the defrost pan & coil brush don't work, what can I expect to pay a refrig. service to deal with this?

TIA

HB

[Dean Hoffman]

On 9/5/13 8:06 PM, Higgs Boson wrote:
> Desperate! For over a month there has been a terrible smell coming
> from the refrigerator AND the freezer!!!

Some cut.

I've never tried this so can't say how well it works. Supposedly,
wadded up newspaper will absorb smells from refrigerators and freezers.

[man...@toolshed.com]

On Thu, 5 Sep 2013 18:06:34 -0700 (PDT), Higgs Boson
<hypa...@gmail.com> wrote:

>Desperate! For over a month there has been a terrible smell coming from the refrigerator

Dead Rat under the fridge!

[The Daring Dufas]

It's possible some food got into the defrost heater and spoiled. I've
seen two different types of defrost heaters, one is the traditional
resistance heater and in our fridge there are actually halogen lamp
tubes that put out defrost heat. If some spilled milk got into the
evaporator and the soured milk is being cooked by the defrost heater,
that could be the source of the odor. O_o

TDD

[nestork]

Higgs:

Check the ice cream in your freezer to see if it's stiff. If it's not
stiff, it could be that the fridge cold control is malfunctioning, and
it's not keeping the fridge as cold as it should be.

Every old fridge will smell if you unplug it and let it warm up. I
really don't know if that's because of food that has been spilled in the
fridge that got into places where it couldn't be cleaned up, or simply
because of frost that forms in the fridge walls when it's operating and
then supports the growth of mildew when it melts.

If this fridge is operating and it's stinking, then we're in uncharted
territory because I've never come across that before.

If the fridge is shut off and it's stinking, the best deodorant I know
of for smelly unplugged fridges is a product called "Ozium" which you
can buy at any appliance parts store. You just open the fridge and
freezer doors and spray a shot of Ozium into each, and then close the
doors.

Other than that, my only suggestion is to take everything out of the
fridge, put on some rubber gloves and clean the entire interior of the
fridge with bleach straight out of the jug. Wear old clothes when doing
this kind of work.

I would also take the cover in the freezer compartment off and see if
there's been any food spilled so that it's sitting on the evaporator pan
under the evaporator coil. If so, clean that up.

Also, see if you can remove any air vents either on the freezer floor or
fresh food compartment ceiling and see if there's any spilled food in
the section between the fresh food compartment and freezer.

Other than that, then I think the only other recourse would to be turn
the fridge cold control to keep the fridge colder.




--
nestork

[Higgs Boson]

On Thursday, September 5, 2013 8:44:14 PM UTC-7, nestork wrote:
> Higgs:
>
>
>
> Check the ice cream in your freezer to see if it's stiff. If it's not
>
> stiff, it could be that the fridge cold control is malfunctioning, and
>
> it's not keeping the fridge as cold as it should be.

Ice cream is stiff and all food in the freezer is frozen.

>
>
>
> Every old fridge will smell if you unplug it and let it warm up. I
>
> really don't know if that's because of food that has been spilled in the
>
> fridge that got into places where it couldn't be cleaned up, or simply
>
> because of frost that forms in the fridge walls when it's operating and
>
> then supports the growth of mildew when it melts.
>
>
>
> If this fridge is operating and it's stinking, then we're in uncharted
>
> territory because I've never come across that before.

OPERATING. STINKING.

>
>
>
> If the fridge is shut off and it's stinking, the best deodorant I know
>
> of for smelly unplugged fridges is a product called "Ozium" which you
>
> can buy at any appliance parts store. You just open the fridge and
>
> freezer doors and spray a shot of Ozium into each, and then close the
>
> doors.
>

NOT SHUT OFF. OPERATING OK.

>
> Other than that, my only suggestion is to take everything out of the
>
> fridge, put on some rubber gloves and clean the entire interior of the
>
> fridge with bleach straight out of the jug. Wear old clothes when doing
>
> this kind of work.

I DID THT ALREADY, AS POSTED IN ORIGINAL MESSAGE.

>
>
>
> I would also take the cover in the freezer compartment off and see if
>
> there's been any food spilled so that it's sitting on the evaporator pan
>
> under the evaporator coil. If so, clean that up.

HOW GET COVER OFF? I WENT TO EHOW BUT COULDN'T FIND SPECIFIC INFO.

>
>
>
> Also, see if you can remove any air vents either on the freezer floor or
>
> fresh food compartment ceiling and see if there's any spilled food in
>
> the section between the fresh food compartment and freezer.

OMG, HAVE TO SEE IF i CAN DO.

SOMEWHAT DOUBT ABOUT SPILLED FOOD..EVERYTHING IN FREEZER IS FROZEN SOLID BUT...

>
> Other than that, then I think the only other recourse would to be turn
>
> the fridge cold control to keep the fridge colder.

AGAIN, DESPITE MY IGNORANCE, DON'T THINK THAT WILL DO IT. EVERYTHING WAS GOING ALONG FINE UNTIL THIS SMELL STARTED FEW WEEKS AGO.

HOPE TO HELL IT ISN'T SOME CRITTER GOT IN THERE..

TX FOR HELP. WILL TRY REMOVING FREEZER PANEL.

STAY TUNED...

HB
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> --
>
> nestork

[Higgs Boson]

Will try to check it out. Tx!

HB

[Tony Hwang]

Hi,
A small box of baking soda with top cut off. Make sure drain hose is not
plugged up.

[Tony Hwang]

Hi,
Milk? who drinks milk? You lose more than gaining heatlthwise drinking milk.
Unless it is raw you milked yourself. Pasteurized milk is poison along
with sugar and salt.

[The Daring Dufas]

Dang! I just had some ice creme. O_o

TDD

[Tony Hwang]

Hi,
Milk, sugar(very difficult to digest) are very acidic food increasing
the inflamation causing pain. Since I retired from Honeywell after 30
odd years we have been
running small health food store for our own consumption and helping
others. That was back in '92. We did very well and expanded to 4 stores
covering 4 corners of the city. Now back down to one to keep it for
another 10 years we hope. We have seen sooooo many health issues coming
from drinking milk. kids ADHD, increased pain, digestion isssues, mucous
problems. Milk is big no, no for folks with any kinda breathing
difficulty. Calcium reinforced Almond or Rice drink is much better
choice. Drinking too much coffee being acidic will cause higher pain
level. Drink Korean Red Ginseng tea which has many benefits. Energy,
endurance, stamina, mental focus, blood sugar control, etc.

[Stormin Mormon]

My thought is that some bit of food or juice got
behind the panel in the back, where the evaporator
is. Might need to removes several screws, take the
panel from inside the freezer. Could be some thing
behind there. Be careful, the fins on the coils are
razor sharp, and can cut you badly.

.
Christopher A. Young
Learn about Jesus
www.lds.org
.

On 9/5/2013 9:22 PM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>
> Did you pull out the drain pan? They are easily forgotten and can get
> nasty
>

> Did anything spill and get down onto the evaporator coil? Under the
> drawers?

[Stormin Mormon]

Take everything out of the freezer. Inside, in the back,
is a panel that covers the evaporator. Pull several
screws, the panel comes out. My guess is that in the
drain pan (about two inches front to back, goes the width
of the freezer) there is some food that slipped in under
there. Chunk of frozen carrots, or some thing. Might
rinse this all out with some bleach dilute. The aluminum
fins are razor sharp, and cut skin very easily, DAMHIKT.

I further suggest you cut back on drive through food, and
buy a new two slice pop up toaster.

Remit $47.50 for consultation ;)

.
Christopher A. Young
Learn about Jesus
www.lds.org
.

[Stormin Mormon]

I know this is a netpick, but I do repair refrigerators
and work on refrigeration. The evaporator is the fins and
tubes that gets cold. Typically copper and aluminum.

The black tubes that gets hot, is the condensor. The
condensor is typically near the condensate pan.
Look for more text following my initials, below.....

.
Christopher A. Young
Learn about Jesus
www.lds.org
.

On 9/5/2013 9:34 PM, Higgs Boson wrote:

>> Did you pull out the drain pan? They are easily forgotten and can get
>> nasty

CY: So, so true! They tend to grow mold, and slime. Yikk.
Pull the pan, bleach it, and wash your hands so you don't
get sick from the microbes that grow in the pan.

>>
>>
>>
>> Did anything spill andget down onto the evaporator
coil? Under the drawers?
>
> OMG Never thought of either!!! I have a brush for the
coil, but -- my bad -- never got around to cleaning it.

CY: Brush implies condensor.

>
> eHow says:
>
> AppliancePartsPros.com/Parts
> How to Drain the Pan
>
> Open the refrigerator door. Pull the base grille
off the unit by grabbing it from the top to the bottom. Slide
the defrost pan from under the unit. Empty out any water in
the pan. Use a sponge or soft cloth along with a mild detergent
to wash it. Rinse the pan thoroughly and dry it before putting
it back under the unit. Put the base grille back on the unit
and close the refrigerator door.

CY: And wash your hands, those pans can be full of microbes.

> While You�re Down There

>
> While you have the base grille and defrost pan off of

your Whirlpool refrigerator, it�s a good idea to clean the

condenser coils under the unit. Cleaning the coils every other
month helps the refrigerator operate more efficiently, saving
on energy use. Use a vacuum cleaner attachment or a soft dust
cloth to clean off the dust that collects on the coils.
>
> OK, I will do both of these & post results.

CY: Cleaning the black coils with a brush and vac cleaner is
excellent idea. When you are through, use a flashlight and
make sure the fan in the back can run / is running. DAMHIKT.

>
> What gets me is how SUDDEN the attack was! That's why I
thought a dead critter.
>
> Seems like if some yeccch leaked from the frig into the
defrost pan, it would be more gradual? Also. NOTHING in the
freezer OR the frig. smelled bad.

CY: My guess is a chunk of food behind the backwall of the
freezer.

>
> Jumping ahead, if my amateurish efforts with the defrost
pan & coil brush don't work, what can I expect to pay a
refrig. service to deal with this?

CY: Local guy about $150, Sears about $350.

>
> TIA
>
> HB
>

[Stormin Mormon]

Yes, please do follow up and let us know what you find.
I'm curious, as also many other readers.

As to the evaporator panel. Remove every food item from
the freezer, and also remove any shelves, ice maker, etc.

You should find five or six phillips screws that hold
the back wall of the freezer on. The heads of the
screws are typicallly painted white, and are not easy
to find.

.
Christopher A. Young
Learn about Jesus
www.lds.org
.

[Stormin Mormon]

Is it OK to drink the milk, sugar, and salt
separately?

I'd have some milk with my cereal, sugar on
my toast, and salt on my burger. That OK?

Somehow, I don't think a glass of milk would
taste good with sugar and salt dissolved in.

.
Christopher A. Young
Learn about Jesus
www.lds.org
.

[Stormin Mormon]

My family suffers from allergies. Milk, in very
very tiny ammounts. Gives me sore feet, go figure.

I'm sure the processed foods that I eat every day
are killing me. I'd be better off to eat natural.

.
Christopher A. Young
Learn about Jesus
www.lds.org
.

[The Daring Dufas]

So that's why my farts propel me upward from my chair and sound like the
steam whistle on a battleship! The extreme pressure and velocity of the
escaping flammable gas is actually quite painful to my tailpipe. O_o

ps, I stopped eating ice cream by the bowl and went to bars and ice
cream sandwiches. My visiting nurse was concerned about my 35lb weight
loss over a 2 month period and I explained that I'm doing it on purpose
to take a load off my heart and agonizingly painful joints. It's really
simple to lose weight, just pay attention to HOW MUCH YOU EAT. ^_^

TDD

[Jon Danniken]

On 09/05/2013 10:58 PM, Tony Hwang wrote:
>
> Milk? who drinks milk? You lose more than gaining heatlthwise drinking
> milk.
> Unless it is raw you milked yourself. Pasteurized milk is poison along
> with sugar and salt.

While I agree with you on sugar, you are utterly wrong about milk, which
is an excellent source of both protein and calories. It is also
delicious.

Some people have trouble digesting it, I will give you that, but that is
about the only caveat (unless you believe all the FUD articles that
various crackpots put out about foods, in which case you're on your own).

Jon

[Cindy Hamilton]

In article <%VeWt.214$WT2...@fx15.iad>, Tony Hwang <drag...@shaw.ca> wrote:
>Hi,
>Milk, sugar(very difficult to digest) are very acidic food increasing
>the inflamation causing pain.

So, what's the received wisdom on citrus fruit, berries, vinegar
and other acidic foods?

Apparently the pH of milk is 6.4 to 6.8 (which is pretty close
to neutral). Why should it be more of a problem?

The pH of stomach acid is 1.5 to 3.5. You'd think that'd be
certain, swift death.

Sounds like BS to me.

Cindy Hamilton

>Since I retired from Honeywell after 30
>odd years we have been
>running small health food store for our own consumption and helping
>others. That was back in '92. We did very well and expanded to 4 stores
>covering 4 corners of the city. Now back down to one to keep it for
>another 10 years we hope. We have seen sooooo many health issues coming
>from drinking milk. kids ADHD, increased pain, digestion isssues, mucous
>problems. Milk is big no, no for folks with any kinda breathing
>difficulty. Calcium reinforced Almond or Rice drink is much better
>choice. Drinking too much coffee being acidic will cause higher pain
>level. Drink Korean Red Ginseng tea which has many benefits. Energy,
>endurance, stamina, mental focus, blood sugar control, etc.
>

--

[Oren]

On Thu, 05 Sep 2013 21:22:46 -0400, Ed Pawlowski <e...@snet.net> wrote:

>Did you pull out the drain pan? They are easily forgotten and can get
>nasty

Exactly. Especially in units in the 50's - 60's. Areas with high
humidity. After cleaning the pan, Mom would add about 1/3 cup of
bleach in the pan that seemed to reduce any lingering smell.

Another nasty smell came from fish, Black Mullet. Due to the mercury
content the fish would not freeze completely and eventually was able
to rot in the freezer. Folks would salt cure the fish in an wooden
barrel before they had refrigerators.

[The Daring Dufas]

If someone ate a lot of the poisonous mercury containing Black Mullet,
wouldn't that person pop their top if they got too hot or angry? O_o

TDD

[Oren]

<chuckle>

I presume folks didn't know about the mercury or dangers back then. As
a kid we played with mercury from T-stats, it never harmed me (twitch,
twitch, twitch).

Silver Mullet have even a higher content of mercury.

A man in Collier County, Fl was acquitted of illegal fishing for BM.
His lawyer persuaded they jury that a mullet was a fowl. Every time
it jumped from the water, it was trying to fly!

Mullet do have a gizzard, like a chicken.

[The Daring Dufas]

I thought it was the oil contained in fish that acted like a natural
antifreeze? O_o I like chicken in my gizzard too! ^_^

TDD

[Oren]

_The Best Way to Clean a Mullet Gizzard_

"Mullet are one of the few species of fish that have gizzards (just
like chickens.) The gizzard is a little tougher than the rest of the
fish, but if you clean them like this, you�ll find they�re tender and
tasty when fried."

<http://outdoorsdownsouth.com/the-best-way-to-clean-a-mullet-gizzard/>

[The Daring Dufas]

On 9/6/2013 3:33 PM, Oren wrote:
> On Fri, 06 Sep 2013 14:27:25 -0500, The Daring Dufas
> <the-dari...@stinky-finger.net> wrote:
>
>>> Silver Mullet have even a higher content of mercury.
>>>
>>> A man in Collier County, Fl was acquitted of illegal fishing for BM.
>>> His lawyer persuaded they jury that a mullet was a fowl. Every time
>>> it jumped from the water, it was trying to fly!
>>>
>>> Mullet do have a gizzard, like a chicken.
>>>
>>
>> I thought it was the oil contained in fish that acted like a natural
>> antifreeze? O_o I like chicken in my gizzard too! ^_^
>
> _The Best Way to Clean a Mullet Gizzard_
>
> "Mullet are one of the few species of fish that have gizzards (just
> like chickens.) The gizzard is a little tougher than the rest of the

> fish, but if you clean them like this, you�ll find they�re tender and

> tasty when fried."
>
> <http://outdoorsdownsouth.com/the-best-way-to-clean-a-mullet-gizzard/>
>

I used to buy deep fried chicken gizzards just like the other Southern
Barbarians at the fried chicken restaurant. I haven't had any lately and
I don't know if any place like Church's Chicken sells them. O_o

TDD

[Higgs Boson]

I keep it for the gardener's weekly coffee. I also use it in cold cereal but rarely. Do not drink it as beverage.

HB

[Higgs Boson]

On Friday, September 6, 2013 5:01:12 AM UTC-7, Stormin Mormon wrote:
> Take everything out of the freezer. Inside, in the back,
>
> is a panel that covers the evaporator. Pull several
>
> screws, the panel comes out. My guess is that in the
>
> drain pan (about two inches front to back, goes the width
>
> of the freezer) there is some food that slipped in under
>
> there. Chunk of frozen carrots, or some thing. Might
>
> rinse this all out with some bleach dilute. The aluminum
>
> fins are razor sharp, and cut skin very easily, DAMHIKT.
>
>
>
> I further suggest you cut back on drive through food,

(*&*&^%#%^**(+!!!! ME?! Never touch the stuff! Wish kids didn't either, drinking those awful fizzy sugared drinks that wreck the body, especially girls.

>
> buy a new two slice pop up toaster.

I have a 4-slice toaster of which 2 slices are working. Will that do it? <g>

>
>
>
> Remit $47.50 for consultation ;)

Bill me <g>

> On 9/5/2013 9:06 PM, Higgs Boson wrote:
>
> > Desperate! For over a month there has been a
>
> terrible smell coming from the refrigerator AND
>
> the freezer!!!
>
> >
>
> > Frig. is a medium-end Whirlpool w/top freezer,
>
> about 6-7 years old.
>
> >
>
> > I took EVERY item out of the frig, smelled it
>
> (nothing) washed the entire frig. section. Did
>
> the same with the freezer - where the smell, oddly
>
> enough, seems STRONGER! No change; smell still there.
>
> >
>
> > IMPORTANT: When I was cleaning out the freezer,
>
> the blast of air SEEMED to be carrying the odor.
>
> By now, I am so crazy that I'm not even sure of THAT!
>
> >
>
> > I asked a handyman who was doing some work for
>
> me to smell the frig/freezer. Asked him whether
>
> an animal could have crawled behind and died. He
>
> sensibly replied that if that were the case, the
>
> whole kitchen would smell.
>
> >
>
> > So has something gotten into the ?? lines ???
>
> that cool the frig/freezer?

I suspect it will turn out that way. When I pulled everything out of the freezer to clean it, I could feel the smell coming from the blast of air entering the freezer.

Now what do YOU mean by freezer pan? Another kind poster suggested I pull out & clean the drip pan from the bottom of the frig. Are there TWO pans??

HB
>

[Higgs Boson]

On Friday, September 6, 2013 11:16:39 AM UTC-7, Oren wrote:
> On Fri, 06 Sep 2013 13:03:22 -0500, The Daring Dufas
>
> <the-dari...@stinky-finger.net> wrote:
>
>
>
> >On 9/6/2013 12:09 PM, Oren wrote:
>
> >> On Thu, 05 Sep 2013 21:22:46 -0400, Ed Pawlowski <e...@snet.net> wrote:
>
> >>
>
> >>> Did you pull out the drain pan? They are easily forgotten and can get
>
> >>> nasty
>
> >>
>
> >> Exactly. Especially in units in the 50's - 60's. Areas with high
>
> >> humidity. After cleaning the pan, Mom would add about 1/3 cup of
>
> >> bleach in the pan that seemed to reduce any lingering smell.
>
> >>
>
> >> Another nasty smell came from fish, Black Mullet. Due to the mercury
>
> >> content the fish would not freeze completely and eventually was able
>
> >> to rot in the freezer. Folks would salt cure the fish in an wooden
>
> >> barrel before they had refrigerators.
>
> >>
>
> >
>
> >If someone ate a lot of the poisonous mercury containing Black Mullet,
>
> >wouldn't that person pop their top if they got too hot or angry? O_o
>
> >
>
> >TDD
>
> >
>
>
>
> <chuckle>
>
>
>
> I presume folks didn't know about the mercury or dangers back then. As
>
> a kid we played with mercury from T-stats, it never harmed me (twitch,
>
> twitch, twitch).

OMG - a trip down Memory Lane! As a child, I played with mercury from a broken thermometer??!! Who knew??!!!

knock on wood (bangs head) appear not to have suffered consequences but writing this lower case just in case the jealous gods are tapping our internet half as successfully as the nsa..

HB

[...]

[Oren]

On Fri, 06 Sep 2013 15:45:16 -0500, The Daring Dufas
<the-dari...@stinky-finger.net> wrote:

>> _The Best Way to Clean a Mullet Gizzard_
>>
>> "Mullet are one of the few species of fish that have gizzards (just
>> like chickens.) The gizzard is a little tougher than the rest of the

>> fish, but if you clean them like this, you’ll find they’re tender and

>> tasty when fried."
>>
>> <http://outdoorsdownsouth.com/the-best-way-to-clean-a-mullet-gizzard/>
>>
>
>I used to buy deep fried chicken gizzards just like the other Southern
>Barbarians at the fried chicken restaurant. I haven't had any lately and
>I don't know if any place like Church's Chicken sells them. O_o

I married a Yankee girl (27 years ago). She will not eat liver and
onions. But, then she loves fried scrapple.

If she only knew the scrap pieces of a hog that goes into scrapple.

Every thing but the squeal ...

I prefer bacon.

[micky]

On Fri, 06 Sep 2013 00:49:11 -0700, Tony Hwang <drag...@shaw.ca>

Who is "you"?

>>> Unless it is raw you milked yourself. Pasteurized milk is poison along
>>> with sugar and salt.
>>
>> Dang! I just had some ice creme. O_o
>>
>> TDD
>Hi,
>Milk, sugar(very difficult to digest)

Well, if they are difficult to digest, that means I get some exercise
without even leaving the dinner table, and for several hours after
that, my body gets a work-out. So I get that without even trying.
I'm glad.

> are very acidic food increasing
>the inflamation causing pain.

But doesn't that only apply to people who have pain? I certainly
don't, or anyone in my family.

>Since I retired from Honeywell after 30
>odd years we have been
>running small health food store for our own consumption and helping
>others. That was back in '92. We did very well and expanded to 4 stores
>covering 4 corners of the city. Now back down to one to keep it for
>another 10 years we hope. We have seen sooooo many health issues coming
>from drinking milk. kids ADHD, increased pain, digestion isssues, mucous
>problems. Milk is big no, no for folks with any kinda breathing
>difficulty.

No one in my family has that.

[Ed Pawlowski]

On 9/6/2013 6:27 PM, Oren wrote:

>
> I married a Yankee girl (27 years ago). She will not eat liver and
> onions. But, then she loves fried scrapple.
>
> If she only knew the scrap pieces of a hog that goes into scrapple.
>
> Every thing but the squeal ...
>

I can top that. I despise liver but enjoy both scrapple and liverwurst.


> I prefer bacon.

We rotate bacon,sausage, scrapple. ham. Spam, hash, but bacon is still
about 50% of the mix.
>

[k...@attt.bizz]

On Fri, 06 Sep 2013 11:16:39 -0700, Oren <Or...@127.0.0.1> wrote:

>On Fri, 06 Sep 2013 13:03:22 -0500, The Daring Dufas
><the-dari...@stinky-finger.net> wrote:
>
>>On 9/6/2013 12:09 PM, Oren wrote:
>>> On Thu, 05 Sep 2013 21:22:46 -0400, Ed Pawlowski <e...@snet.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Did you pull out the drain pan? They are easily forgotten and can get
>>>> nasty
>>>
>>> Exactly. Especially in units in the 50's - 60's. Areas with high
>>> humidity. After cleaning the pan, Mom would add about 1/3 cup of
>>> bleach in the pan that seemed to reduce any lingering smell.
>>>
>>> Another nasty smell came from fish, Black Mullet. Due to the mercury
>>> content the fish would not freeze completely and eventually was able
>>> to rot in the freezer. Folks would salt cure the fish in an wooden
>>> barrel before they had refrigerators.
>>>
>>
>>If someone ate a lot of the poisonous mercury containing Black Mullet,
>>wouldn't that person pop their top if they got too hot or angry? O_o
>>
>>TDD
>>
>
><chuckle>
>
>I presume folks didn't know about the mercury or dangers back then. As
>a kid we played with mercury from T-stats, it never harmed me (twitch,
>twitch, twitch).

Metallic mercury isn't all that dangerous. It's the organic mercury
compounds that are toxic as all hell. The problem with kids today is
that the 1) need warning labels on everything and 2) are too stupid to
read warning labels. Thank you Teachers' Unions.

[Stormin Mormon]

And government schools. Where you get
the wrong answer, but feel really
good about it.

The expression "mad as a hatter" was
based in truth. They used mercury vapor.

.
Christopher A. Young
Learn about Jesus
www.lds.org
.

[k...@attt.bizz]

On Sat, 07 Sep 2013 20:18:13 -0400, Stormin Mormon
<cayo...@hotmail.com> wrote:

>And government schools. Where you get
>the wrong answer, but feel really
>good about it.
>
>The expression "mad as a hatter" was
>based in truth. They used mercury vapor.

The issue wasn't metallic mercury, though. Metallic mercury has a
very low vapor pressure at room temperature and isn't all that
dangerous.

[Higgs Boson]

The ones you SHOULD be thanking are the lawyers hired by manufacturers to spell out every fracking potential danger posed by a product just in case some [uncomplimentary noun] gets injured. Look at those caveats some time. Unbelievable! They are covering their a$$ets from here to eternity.

HB

[k...@attt.bizz]

All the lawyers in the world would be powerless if the lefty sheep
weren't so damned dumb. No, it starts with the schools and that means
teachers (and by extension, the unions).

"The essential questions are: Who teaches the children and what
do we teach them." --Plato

[John Doe]

Na�ve retard...

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[Higgs Boson]

The old reliable response from the giant intellect of the unthinking to any discussion. Drag in the stinking carcass of your ingrained political bias. Solves all problems. Congratulations!

HB
>
>
>

[k...@attt.bizz]

On Mon, 9 Sep 2013 14:23:02 -0700 (PDT), Higgs Boson

Solve problems? You really are illiterate (as we all know). The
discussion was about the problem, dummy. ..but it was nice of you to
take the hook.

[ellens...@yahoo.com]

HB -- I have a Whirlpool of about the same vintage and am having exactly the same problem (or, my tenant is).

Did you determine the problem? Was there anything you could do other than trash the thing?

[thekma...@gmail.com]

Ten years ago, at our apartment, we had a foul
odor issue, which was determined to be the
freezer's automatic defroster heater. It had
somehow come in contact with the plastic lining
in the freezer and was slowly melting it, pro-
ducing the stink!

Our landlord replaced the fridge on his dime. :)

[Oren]

On Tue, 17 Mar 2015 15:24:44 -0700 (PDT), thekma...@gmail.com
wrote:

Well, taint that special...

[Col. Edmund Burke]

<ellens...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:e7ece091-f9d9-4ac7...@googlegroups.com...

Clean it.

[ralphdm...@gmail.com]

Having the same problem and desperate for a solution ... did you ever resolve this?

[ralphdm...@gmail.com]

[Ed Pawlowski]

On 3/31/2016 3:17 PM, ralphdm...@gmail.com wrote:
> Having the same problem and desperate for a solution ... did you ever resolve this?
>

Easy to fix. You take everything out. You toss what went bad. You
clean the inside witha sanitizer or weak bleach solution.

[Gordon Shumway]

On Thu, 31 Mar 2016 12:17:39 -0700 (PDT), ralphdm...@gmail.com wrote:

>Having the same problem and desperate for a solution ... did you ever resolve this?

Is there an echo in here?

[Oren]

It just got to Nevada.

[Lisa]

replying to Higgs Boson, Lisa wrote:
Mine is doing the same thing!!! Both frig & freezer smell

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[Lisa]

replying to Higgs Boson, Lisa wrote:

Same with me! Coils & pan are clean this is ridiculous! Is there something
that's been recalled for this product. I'm unaware of?

[Tony944]

"Lisa" wrote in message
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In side of freezer under the cooling coil there is usually small pan that
catches water and drains it out while
is in defrost mode make sure that this pan is empty and clean, also there is
catch pan under refrigerator
which evaporates water bury some place with in machinery frame make sure
that is clean and empty.


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[fixitall]

replying to Lisa, fixitall wrote:
I have a similar Whirlpool refrigerator. I am having the same problem, but I
know where it is coming from. The evaporator pan under the refrigerator.

After getting the unit repaired, a very bad odor soon began coming from down
by the removable grill. After searching everything else like most folks here,
I finally got behind it and removed the panel at the bottom. I found that the
rear of the evaporator pan was coated with a dark, sticky residue that was
definitely the source of the smell. I think it might have been from a roast
that we thawed in the refrigerator, that ended up leaking a lot of blood
before we caught it. I cleaned it out and voila, the smell went away
completely.

It has been about a week now, and the smell has returned. When checking the
same place I discovered these things:
1) There is about 1/4 inch of water in the back of the evaporator pan that is
the source of the smell. It is not the same sticky residue, but murky water.
2) The pan is molded so that the back part fills up about halfway before water
begins running into the front part. This may be because the fan is blowing
right on the back part, and that would be where the fastest evaporation should
take place.

I'm guessing here, but I know refrigerators have automatic defrost cycles. I'm
wondering if somehow, before I had it repaired, the leaking food got down into
the system somewhere and froze. Maybe now some of that ice is melting during
each auto defrost and running down into the evaporator pan. Until it
evaporates it is essentially a bowl of warm water, which would be a great
place for bacteria to grow like crazy if food got down there.

I think I'll probably be cleaning that out regularly until only clean water
drips down there from the defrost cycle as intended. I don't know any way to
clean out the system up inside "where spills go." I guess I could try pouring
water into the refrigerator compartment to see if it goes all of the way
through and runs out in the evaporator pan - but that seems a little risky.

What I'd like to find is something to put into the evaporator pan to disinfect
dirty water when it drains there, so the water would evaporate before it
started to stink.

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[Nick]

replying to Stormin Mormon, Nick wrote:
I noticed an odor, searched hi, low and under, in the end I found that my
Bioastin wasn't sealed!

[Colonel Edmund J. Burke]

On 1/31/2017 7:44 AM, Nick wrote:
> replying to Stormin Mormon, Nick wrote:
> I noticed an odor, searched hi, low and under, in the end I found that my
> Bioastin wasn't sealed!
>

"Good morning, ma'am. This is Albert from ACME Electrical Company.
We've had some reports of power outages in your area. Would you kindly
go and see if your refrigerator is running?"

[Tlee1005]

replying to Higgs Boson, Tlee1005 wrote:
I have same issue and did all of that, no results.

[Frank]

On 2/28/2017 1:14 PM, Tlee1005 wrote:
> replying to Higgs Boson, Tlee1005 wrote:
> I have same issue and did all of that, no results.
>

Replying to Higgs 4 year old post rest assured that she now smells worse
than her refrigerator.

[Oren]

She sure won't be posting a personal document here anymore. If you
get my drift. She hasn't been back after that. Her house was a mess
but the land is worth some bucks in Malibu :-)

[lfie...@gmail.com]

Yes newspapers wadded up do the trick!!! Now find out WHY it smells

[borka...@gmail.com]

How do you morons turn a thread about a smelly fridge into a right wing nut rant spewing Fox News rote nonsense like some robot clones?

[Gordon Shumway]

On Wed, 14 Jun 2017 21:50:07 -0700 (PDT), borka...@gmail.com wrote:

>How do you morons turn a thread about a smelly fridge into a right wing nut rant spewing Fox News rote nonsense like some robot clones?

You obviously weren't taught that in school were you? That confirms it was the teachers/teachers union is at
fault. Now do you understand, snowflake?

[Luke]

replying to Lisa, Luke wrote:
I had the exact same problem it turned out to be a bad defrost element. Took
the frlg apart. The bad element was black. When it took it off and got it
outside it was definitely the source of the smell. I had searched threes also
and got the same suggestions as you. Nowhere have I found mention of this
problem

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[Mar]

replying to Luke, Mar wrote:
Where was that element found? A technician already checked out my
refrigerator and said nothing was wrong with it. My fridge was clean as a
whistle and he still gave the standard recommendation to use vanilla, baking
soda, coffee beans, etc. My refrigerator is less than a year old, and I have
had this smell for three months now, so I don't believe that coils could be
causing the smell.

[Sean Latham]

replying to Mar, Sean Latham wrote:
did you ever solve the smell with your new fridge? I have a Whirpool less than
5 month old that has the same problem.

[Michelle Banks]

replying to Higgs Boson, Michelle Banks wrote:
My fridge is new and I smell an odor, it's not food it's just a really weird
smell.

[Stephanie Warner]

replying to Ed Pawlowski, Stephanie Warner wrote:
Ya right .