Blue Water from Shower
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only catchment water- rain water. We do have some filters before our
house, but nothing colored. When I turn on the shower and use that
yellow Dial soap, the color those 2 things make is blue when I catch
it in a bucket is blue. A real blue colored water. Any clues? Just
too fascinating and I bet someone here has an idea. Thanks in
advance. aloha, C. Smith
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Richard J Kinch
> When I turn on the shower and use that
> yellow Dial soap, the color those 2 things make is blue when I catch
> it in a bucket is blue. A real blue colored water. Any clues?
You sure the soap contributes?
Pure water (or chlorinated) is slightly blue in a white polyethylene bucket
or other white vessel:
http://www.truetex.com/dsc00450.jpg
Chloramine makes it greenish:
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wrote:
Oh I didn't know. Thanks. I will study it a little more. I promise
it is not chlorinated. We do NOT have municipal water. We catch
every drop that we use for household use from our roof. We get about
70 inches of rain per year. We do live close to the rainforest. We
have no chlorine or anything else like that in our system. Just Rain.
Thanks Richard.
aloha...
nJb
Just wundrin', why do you catch the soapy shower in a bucket?
Jack
I'm just glad I don't get all the government I pay for.
Big Balls Willie
"Smithfarms 100% Kona" <webmi...@smithfarms.com> wrote
> When I turn on the shower and use that
> yellow Dial soap, the color those 2 things make is blue when I catch
> it in a bucket is blue. A real blue colored water. Any clues?
Did the Tidey Bowl man decide to travel upstream???
Gary Slusser
You have more than just rain in the cistern, there will be various
bacteria etc.. Some of that may be reacting with the soap, or not.
Remove the filters from their housings, or by-pass them, and see if you
can duplicate the result. Or you can change to white soap and maybe
generate no color or a different one. lol Personally I like Irish
Spring...
Gary
Quality Water Associates
Smithfarms 100% Kona
>"Smithfarms 100% Kona" wrote:
>>
>Just wundrin', why do you catch the soapy shower in a bucket?
>
>Jack
>
>
> I'm just glad I don't get all the government I pay for.
When you depend on water catchment, you try to use every bit of water.
aloha
f
Richard J Kinch
> Oh I didn't know. Thanks. I will study it a little more. I promise
> it is not chlorinated.
It doesn't have to be chlorinated. Any reasonably pure water, such as
uncontaminated rainwater, or distilled water, in a white bucket will be
faintly but distinctly blue. A 5-gallon polyethylene bucket makes a
surprisingly good colorimeter.
I only mentioned chlorine and chloramine and their effect (or lack of
effect) on water color because one or the other of these that is what most
people have in their utility water or treated well water.
Rainwater off my roof is faintly brown from leaf tannins and mold.
Scott Packard
Copper salts are either blue or green.
IIRC: CuCl(2)*2H(2)O is green-blue
http://www.webelements.com/webelements/compounds/text/Cu/Cl2Cu1H4O2-10125130.html
Copper Sulphate is blue.
2CuCO(3)Cu(OH)(2)
If you have dirty air or a power plant that burns a fuel that contains
alot of sulpher you can get this (provided your roof and/or catch basin
system has copper piping/sheeting in it).
I suggest you change to stainless steel for the catch basin and PVC
for the piping.
Regards, Scott
RB
|Smithfarms 100% Kona wrote:
I'm interested in the details on your water catchment system. I've
been wanting to do that for years.
Would you care to share specifics, and perhaps related URLs or photos?
Smithfarms 100% Kona
>Just a thought. Did your wife put one of those blue cleaning things
>in the toilet tank? Could you be siphoning water out of that tank?
>If this is possible, buy an anti-siphon water filler (ballcock) for
>the toilet tank. Plus get rid of the blue things, they are useless,
>other than to make money for the companies that sell them, and make
>women waste money on buying them, not to mention any environmental
>damage they do, all in the name of turing the toilet water blue for no
>apparent reason, and they do NOT clean anything. A toilet brush and a
>little bleach does a far better job of cleaning the shitter.
>
I am the wife<grin> and no, I don't use those blue things and there is
no way the toilet would go to the shower. eeeeck. I use one of those
Clorox tabs in the back of the toilet though, because...we have
nothing in our water and little plant organisms grow quickly in
untreated rain water. When I don't use those Clorox tabs, the little
brown colored plant organisms grow after a few days despite adequate
flushing. With the Clorox tablets, I can clean once a week and in the
meantime, it looks great.
As a PS to this posting. It is something within the yellow Dial soap
that reacts with our catchment (pure rain from metal roofs and
gutters) water and turns it blue. The white Lever 2000 soap does not
turn the water in the bucket blue.
with aloha from the rainforest, where it is... raining.
Gary Dyrkacz
bluish and the water just a bit cloudy it could be scattering off of
tiny aggregates of soap molecules, called micelles, in the water.
These particles are so small that they scatter light and might lead to
a blue color.
Gary Dyrkacz
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Gary Slusser
>
> >Just a thought. Did your wife put one of those blue cleaning things
> >in the toilet tank? Could you be siphoning water out of that tank?
> >If this is possible, buy an anti-siphon water filler (ballcock) for
> >the toilet tank. Plus get rid of the blue things, they are useless,
> >other than to make money for the companies that sell them, and make
> >women waste money on buying them, not to mention any environmental
> >damage they do, all in the name of turing the toilet water blue for
no
> >apparent reason, and they do NOT clean anything. A toilet brush and
a
> >little bleach does a far better job of cleaning the shitter.
> >
> I am the wife<grin> and no, I don't use those blue things and there is
> no way the toilet would go to the shower. eeeeck.
Actually the water in the toilet tank and your kitchen faucet is the
same water and there is the possibility of back flow from the toilet
tank into the water that remains in the feed line to the toilet.
Possibly more likely in a system with low pressure.
> I use one of those
> Clorox tabs in the back of the toilet though, because...we have
> nothing in our water and little plant organisms grow quickly in
> untreated rain water. When I don't use those Clorox tabs, the little
> brown colored plant organisms grow after a few days despite adequate
> flushing. With the Clorox tablets, I can clean once a week and in the
> meantime, it looks great.
You really should be treating the water, whatever the little brown
colored plant organisms are, they are also in the other water throughout
the building. I'm fairly sure you don't want to think about that or
admit to it but, how could they not be? They're probably in your
collection/storage tank too.
Gary
Quality Water Associates
Dick Forbes
that formulates the solution. I think that the key here is the "yellow" in
the soap, and the possibility of some slight pollution in the rain water
reacting to the roof and/or gutters and piping. The resulting compound(s)
would possibly react to the compound that allows the yellow coloring in the
soap (perhaps copper compounds?) and maybe slight acidity of the water,
result a slight blue color.
Timing has an awful lot to do with the outcome of a rain dance.
Dick Forbes
Rob Gray
>>Smithfarms 100% Kona wrote:
>>
>>>This has puzzled us. See if you can help us figure it out. We have
>>>only catchment water- rain water. We do have some filters before our
>>>house, but nothing colored. When I turn on the shower and use that
>>>yellow Dial soap, the color those 2 things make is blue when I catch
>>>it in a bucket is blue. A real blue colored water. Any clues? Just
>>>too fascinating and I bet someone here has an idea. Thanks in
>>>advance. aloha, C. Smith
Ever see that movie Private Benjamin? ;)
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Smithfarms 100% Kona
I loved it.
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