OT: Samsung TV Indicator Light
Pavel314
box and wireless internet. Quite a setup. The thing that puzzles me is
that there is a red light in the lower right corner which is on when
the TV is off. When you turn the TV on, it goes off.
It seems that the entire function of this light is to tell you that
although the TV is off, it's connected to a power source and could go
on at the touch of a button. The only positive value of this thing is
that if I try to turn the TV on with the remote and nothing happens,
I'll know that the TV is powered and that the batteries in the remote
are bad.
Seems strange; am I missing something? I'd hate to think that the
penguins in the rain forests are dying because of this strange
indicator light.
Paul
hr(bob) hofmann@att.net
Check the owners manual?
mm
wrote:
>We have a big Samsung plasma TV which is fed by a Blue Ray, a cable
>box and wireless internet. Quite a setup. The thing that puzzles me is
>that there is a red light in the lower right corner which is on when
>the TV is off. When you turn the TV on, it goes off.
>
>It seems that the entire function of this light is to tell you that
>although the TV is off, it's connected to a power source and could go
>on at the touch of a button. The only positive value of this thing is
>that if I try to turn the TV on with the remote and nothing happens,
>I'll know that the TV is powered and that the batteries in the remote
>are bad.
>
>Seems strange; am I missing something?
No, that's right. Are you sure deep down you didn't know it was
right, but wanted to tell us about your tv etc.?
It tells you it's plugged in to a live outlet. When it's on, you
probably already know that. Although I put my tv on channel 55 when
it's annoying me. It's very quiet there.
Ed Pawlowski
"Pavel314" <pin...@jhmi.edu> wrote in message
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That's it. The red in the light comes from the eyeballs of the penguin in
the rain forest. If you remove the light, you can save about 1¢ a year on
the electric bill.
Secondary use is a beacon for when you sneak in the darkened house when
drunk.
Robert Neville
>It seems that the entire function of this light is to tell you that
>although the TV is off, it's connected to a power source and could go
>on at the touch of a button. The only positive value of this thing is
>that if I try to turn the TV on with the remote and nothing happens,
>I'll know that the TV is powered and that the batteries in the remote
>are bad.
>
>Seems strange; am I missing something? I'd hate to think that the
>penguins in the rain forests are dying because of this strange
No, you aren't missing anything. The electrical consumption of a single LED
won't affect anything but your sanity. A number of years ago, the consumer
electronics manufacturers decided that having a light on when the power was off
made perfect sense and solved a problem that no one had. It drives me up the
bloody wall and usually entails a quick trip to the garage to dig out a roll of
black electrical tape to cover the offending light.
Oren
wrote:
>We have a big Samsung plasma TV which is fed by a Blue Ray, a cable
>box and wireless internet. Quite a setup. The thing that puzzles me is
>that there is a red light in the lower right corner which is on when
>the TV is off. When you turn the TV on, it goes off.
So turn the TV off when the screen goes black. That certainly kills
that nasty red light. When you turn the TV back on you won't see the
red light until the screen goes black again and you forget the TV is
still on.
Do I have to think of everything, sheesh.
Ken
There are no longer penguins in the rain forests. Aliens have removed
them and taken them to their planet. Don't tell anyone, but they are
being taught to make crop circles.
Bill Gill
used to it, but I still think that a light that shows when something
is on is preferable to a light that shows it is off. I have no
idea when they decided to reverse the function of the power light.
Bill Gill
Ed Pawlowski
"Bill Gill" <bill...@cox.net> wrote
> Mine is the same. I was kind of bothered by it too. I have gotten
> used to it, but I still think that a light that shows when something
> is on is preferable to a light that shows it is off. I have no
> idea when they decided to reverse the function of the power light.
>
> Bill Gill
>
That big assed screen with moving pictures tells you it is on. The red
indicator lets you know it has power. A good thing in some circumstances.
My LG set turns blue when it is turned on.
Robert Neville
>My LG set turns blue when it is turned on.
Vizio is using a muted orange logo that turns white when the power is on on some
oftheir TVs. That's the least objectionable as the logo and the color don't look
like they are powered when it's orange.
Vinny From NYC
>> We have a big Samsung plasma TV which is fed by a Blue Ray, a cable
>> box and wireless internet. Quite a setup.
Indeed. You must spend a *lot* of time in front of the TV to justify
such extravagance. But it's nice to see how proud you are of it.
>>The thing that puzzles me is
>> that there is a red light in the lower right corner which is on when
>> the TV is off. When you turn the TV on, it goes off.
>>
>> It seems that the entire function of this light is to tell you that
>> although the TV is off, it's connected to a power source and could go
>> on at the touch of a button.
It seems to me that you are correct.
>>The only positive value of this thing is
>> that if I try to turn the TV on with the remote and nothing happens,
>> I'll know that the TV is powered and that the batteries in the remote
>> are bad.
Well, it could also help you to find the TV in the middle of the night
when it is very dark and you need a TV "fix". Just head toward the
red light.
>> Seems strange; am I missing something?
People who watch TV a lot are missing... well, a lot.
>>I'd hate to think that the
>> penguins in the rain forests are dying because of this strange
>> indicator light.
Don't worry about the penguins. Worry about your mental abilities.
And remember: there's someone out there who has a better TV than you,
so consider the next upgrade.
DGDevin
"Ed Pawlowski" wrote in message
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> That's it. The red in the light comes from the eyeballs of the penguin in
> the rain forest. If you remove the light, you can save about 1¢ a year on
> the electric bill.
But it isn't just an LED consuming power, there is circuitry behind it that
is always on, otherwise you couldn't turn on the TV with the remote.
"Phantom load" from appliances that are turned off (but are really in a
standby mode) is significant, like ten to fifteen watts per appliance (or
more). Add up all the devices in the house that are in standby mode and it
can represent a tenth of your electrical bill. Who would refuse a 10% cut
in their electric bill if it were offered?
Using a power strip for a home theatre or computer means you can really turn
everything off so its drawing zero power (and costing you zero money).
http://www.energy.unsw.edu.au/NewsInfoStandbyPower.shtml
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/programmes/click_online/4929594.stm
Ed Pawlowski
"DGDevin" <DGD...@invalid.invalid> wrote
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>
> "Ed Pawlowski" wrote in message
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>> That's it. The red in the light comes from the eyeballs of the penguin
>> in the rain forest. If you remove the light, you can save about 1¢ a
>> year on the electric bill.
>
> But it isn't just an LED consuming power, there is circuitry behind it
> that is always on, otherwise you couldn't turn on the TV with the remote.
> "Phantom load" from appliances that are turned off (but are really in a
> standby mode) is significant, like ten to fifteen watts per appliance (or
> more).
Maybe on some, but the specifications on my LG are less than 1/10 of a watt.
http://www.lg.com/us/tv-audio-video/televisions/LG-lcd-tv-42LD450.jsp
Voltage, Hz 100V ~ 240V, 50/60 Hz
On Mode (Average) 180W
Stand-by Mode <0.1W
> Add up all the devices in the house that are in standby mode and it can
> represent a tenth of your electrical bill. Who would refuse a 10% cut in
> their electric bill if it were offered?
If real, I'd not, but I don't think it is anywhere near that high so I'm
willing to pay for the convenience.
>
> Using a power strip for a home theatre or computer means you can really
> turn everything off so its drawing zero power (and costing you zero
> money).
>
Nah, it would take too long for the Sat TV to boot up every time and the
channel directory is lost. I'm keeping it on. I have an under cabinet
light in the kitchen too. It has been on for the 30 years I've lived here.
It has been replaced twice, but never turned off.
Ed Pawlowski
"Vinny From NYC" <vi...@nycapple.net> wrote
>>> Seems strange; am I missing something?
>
> People who watch TV a lot are missing... well, a lot.
>
Do you want to expand that a bit? No one should ever watch any TV? I'd sure
miss a lot and would not know as much as I do. Of course, I'm selective and
most of my viewing is History Channel, Discovery, Smithsonian, NatGeo, etc.
I agree you won't learn anything from watching typical network fare and the
alleged sitcoms and drama.
Han
news:99adnaS_INZv-vTQ...@giganews.com:
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> "DGDevin" <DGD...@invalid.invalid> wrote
>>
<snip>
>> Using a power strip for a home theatre or computer means you can
>> really turn everything off so its drawing zero power (and costing you
>> zero money).
>>
>
> Nah, it would take too long for the Sat TV to boot up every time and
> the channel directory is lost. I'm keeping it on. I have an under
> cabinet light in the kitchen too. It has been on for the 30 years I've
> lived here. It has been replaced twice, but never turned off.
I have everything on a powerstrip (with surge protection, FWIW). Ther is 1
outlet that isn't switched for the FiOS DVR/cablebox. LG TV, Bluray, Vizio
speakers are switched.
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Best regards
Han
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aemeijers
Some sets, you hit the power button an extra click, and the light goes
out. Dunno if that signifies a true 'off' condition versus 'standby' or
what. I kinda like all the little glowing lights on all the hardware,
since I can't see stars from this neighborhood due to street and pole
barn lights. I also use them as navigation beacons when walking around
the house in the dark at night. Turning on a real light starts the
'actually wake up' subroutine in my head, and I find it almost
impossible to get back to sleep once that happens.
--
aem sends...
DGDevin
"Ed Pawlowski" wrote in message
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> Maybe on some, but the specifications on my LG are less than 1/10 of a
> watt.
As one of the articles I linked to said, some new TVs have really cut down
standby power usage, they're been encouraged to do so by laws. Our DVD
player lets us choose between off/standby or off/off, I usually use the
latter because the day I'm too lazy to walk across the room and turn on a
DVD player they can put me in The Home.
>> Add up all the devices in the house that are in standby mode and it can
>> represent a tenth of your electrical bill. Who would refuse a 10% cut in
>> their electric bill if it were offered?
> If real, I'd not, but I don't think it is anywhere near that high so I'm
> willing to pay for the convenience.
It would be interesting to borrow one of those power usage trackers and find
out what every electrical device is really using. I suspect many of us
would be surprised.
>> Using a power strip for a home theatre or computer means you can really
>> turn everything off so its drawing zero power (and costing you zero
>> money).
> Nah, it would take too long for the Sat TV to boot up every time and the
> channel directory is lost. I'm keeping it on.
We power down stuff like that only if we're going to be away at least a
couple of days. A dollar here, a dollar there....
FatterDumber& Happier Moe
I shows ya were to aim the remote control, and it's kind of handy when
the computer hooked to the TV goes to sleep and the TV goes blank and ya
wake up in the middle of the night and .... whatever.
Tony Hwang
Hi,
Most stressful time for any electric/electronics device is when powering
it up/down. Most user manuals specify how much power a device consumes
in srandy-by. My Canon inkjet printer is like 0.3W/h. I leave it on all
the time if I power it up and down, every time I do that it goes into
head cleaning cycle wasting lot of ink. We never turn off our Desktops
or laptops in the house. They all go into hibernate mode when not in use.
Ed Pawlowski
"DGDevin" <DGD...@invalid.invalid> wrote
>
>> Nah, it would take too long for the Sat TV to boot up every time and the
>> channel directory is lost. I'm keeping it on.
>
> We power down stuff like that only if we're going to be away at least a
> couple of days. A dollar here, a dollar there....
Agree on some items, but the DVR stays on or it would not record while we're
away.
Mark Lloyd
[snip]
> No, you aren't missing anything. The electrical consumption of a single
> LED won't affect anything but your sanity. A number of years ago, the
> consumer electronics manufacturers decided that having a light on when the
> power was off made perfect sense and solved a problem that no one had. It
> drives me up the bloody wall and usually entails a quick trip to the
> garage to dig out a roll of black electrical tape to cover the offending
> light.
I like to sleep in a dark room. One of those little LEDs can be be much too
bright when it is the only light in that room. I'd use the tape or
disconnect power (complicated by the &%$# TV forgetting it's supposed to be
ON). Smaller devices (cell phone on charger, electric blanket control,
etc...) go in a drawer.
--
Mark Lloyd
http://notstupid.us
"Lighthouses are more helpful than churches." -- Benjamin Franklin
Mark Lloyd
Unless you're in a dark room, as you shold be to sleep. At least the case is
black, so you won't be able to see the tape over the light.
Don Klipstein
The standby circuitry in an appliance does not have to consume 10-15
watts. My remote-controlled DTV box consumes less than a watt when "off"
and having its red indicator light on.
--
- Don Klipstein (d...@misty.com)
gree...@neo.rr.com
<DGD...@invalid.invalid> wrote:
>
>It would be interesting to borrow one of those power usage trackers and find
>out what every electrical device is really using. I suspect many of us
>would be surprised.
>
Why borrow one? You can buy your own kill-a-watt for around $20 US.
Ned Flanders
Personally I prefer this to a indicator that comes on with the TV. When
I am watching the TV I do not like to have some LED or logo with ring of
light around it distracting me from the picture. I would cover the LED
on my JVC in the bedroom but I am hoping that one day my wife will
figure out what it means and actually notice she has turned off the PVR
and not the TV before falling asleep.
Ed Pawlowski
"Ned Flanders" <ned.fl...@springfield.com> wrote
>
> Personally I prefer this to a indicator that comes on with the TV. When I
> am watching the TV I do not like to have some LED or logo with ring of
> light around it distracting me from the picture. I would cover the LED on
> my JVC in the bedroom but I am hoping that one day my wife will figure out
> what it means and actually notice she has turned off the PVR and not the
> TV before falling asleep.
>
On the Samsung, the LED goes out when the TV comes on. No distraction. On
my LG, the light turns from red to blue, but it is far enough and dim enough
that it is no distraction either.
OTOH, I was at a friends house that had a brand (can't remember for sue but
I think Toshiba) that the logo lit up on the bottom frame and it was a
distraction. After while you sort of got used to it, but I did not like it
at all.