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Ernie Willson

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Mar 3, 2009, 10:14:11 AM3/3/09
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I need a company to pickup, pack and ship a mirror from Tuscaloosa
Alabama to central NJ. The mirror is about 5ft by 3 ft and the frame is
about 2 1/2 inches thick. Total weight is about 80 pounds.

Any suggestions about how to get this done (economically) would be
appreciated.

I calculated the cost via UPS to be about $300.00 which is more than I
can justify for the mirror.

TIA,
EJ in NJ

HeyBub

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Mar 3, 2009, 11:01:47 AM3/3/09
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Build a sturdy box and ship it motor freight. Maybe $60 in freight charge.


Smitty Two

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Mar 3, 2009, 12:22:04 PM3/3/09
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In article <49ad46ff$0$4998$9a6e...@news.newshosting.com>,
Ernie Willson <ewil...@comcast.net> wrote:

Well, shipping alone isn't going to be anywhere close to $300, so maybe
you'll have to find a friend who can pack it for you. Adding six inches
to the length and width and four to the thickness for packaging, ups.com
says about $100 to ship it, including picking it up from you.

Ernie Willson

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Mar 3, 2009, 1:11:39 PM3/3/09
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Thanks for your reply, but I need what I asked for..pickup, packing, and
shipping. The shipper must do all three things, not just shipping. There
is no one who will pack this for me. When I looked at UPS the total bill
for these three services was about $300.00.

EJ in NJ

Ernie Willson

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Mar 3, 2009, 1:13:37 PM3/3/09
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Thanks for your reply, but I need what I asked for..pickup, packing, and
shipping. I am in NJ, not Ala. The shipper must do all three things, not
just shipping.

EJ in NJ
>
>

charlie

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Mar 3, 2009, 1:24:59 PM3/3/09
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"Ernie Willson" <ewil...@comcast.net> wrote in message
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try calling a national moving company and ask if they have a truck going in
that direction any time in the next 6 months, unless you need it quickly.


Don Phillipson

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Mar 3, 2009, 1:06:48 PM3/3/09
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"Ernie Willson" <ewil...@comcast.net> wrote in message
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1. Consult the nearest museum with a collection of hiqu-quality
antique furniture or pictures. Some have "shipping" departments,
others "conservation."
2. Your basic comparison may be between replacement cost
(viz. buying something similar in NJ) and shipping. Modern rigid
foam (as shaped to pack computers, TVs etc.) may enable you
to pack it for yourself: but #1 may provide valuable advice free.

--
Don Phillipson
Carlsbad Springs
(Ottawa, Canada)


dpb

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Mar 3, 2009, 1:40:54 PM3/3/09
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Ernie Willson wrote:
...

> Thanks for your reply, but I need what I asked for..pickup, packing, and
> shipping. The shipper must do all three things, not just shipping. There
> is no one who will pack this for me. When I looked at UPS the total bill
> for these three services was about $300.00.

I'd guess that's probably about as well as you'll find anybody will want
to do for a single item like that -- it's just not cost-effective to
send a packing crew for only a single item.

You might try to find some small local moving company or the "2-Guys"
kinda' outfits to do the local end and get it to the shipper, but I
would still tend to doubt you can be completely hands-off and come out
much better.

Unless there's some intrinsic value, might be better off to put it in
local auction/Craig's list/whatever and just plan on replacing it in new
location.

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nor...@earthlink.net

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Mar 3, 2009, 1:46:20 PM3/3/09
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I would contact a mover -

George

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Mar 3, 2009, 2:02:16 PM3/3/09
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That doesn't sound terribly unreasonable to have the item picked up,
crated and shipped.

HeyBub

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Mar 3, 2009, 3:06:30 PM3/3/09
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UPS doesn't pack.

Having emphasized your needs, you're looking for a local agent to handle the
shipping details.

You can probably find one on the cheap by posting an ad in the Tuscaloosa
(or neighboring) Craigslist.


Malcolm Hoar

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Mar 3, 2009, 3:10:27 PM3/3/09
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In article <49ad7096$0$4983$9a6e...@news.newshosting.com>, Ernie Willson <ewil...@comcast.net> wrote:

>Thanks for your reply, but I need what I asked for..pickup, packing, and
>shipping. The shipper must do all three things, not just shipping. There
>is no one who will pack this for me. When I looked at UPS the total bill
>for these three services was about $300.00.

Looks like you have your answer.

If saving $$$ becomes more compelling, you can do some of the
work yourself for less money (like the packing).

Frankly, $300 does not seem completely unreasonable. You don't
create the impression of being someone that will be easy to
work with either ;-)

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Oren

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Mar 3, 2009, 3:17:54 PM3/3/09
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On Tue, 03 Mar 2009 13:13:37 -0500, Ernie Willson
<ewil...@comcast.net> wrote:

>Thanks for your reply, but I need what I asked for..pickup, packing, and
>shipping. I am in NJ, not Ala. The shipper must do all three things, not
>just shipping.

See if this company can ship the mirror. A free call!

http://www.freightncrate.com/contactus.htm


CORPORATE HEADQUARTERS
Freight and Crate

Physical Address:
57 West Barham Ave.
Santa Rosa, CA 95407

Mailing Address:
P.O. BOX 1080
Windsor, CA 95492

Toll Free Phone: 800-949-1268
Toll Free Fax Phone: 800-949-1278

Phone: 707-584-2750
Fax: 707-584-2749

Terminal Manager
Cathy Gutierrez:
ca...@freightncrate.com

Facilities Manager
Fred Benz:
fr...@freightncrate.com

All other inquiries to
Customer Service:
custome...@freightncrate.com






dpb

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Mar 3, 2009, 3:18:03 PM3/3/09
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Malcolm Hoar wrote:
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> Frankly, $300 does not seem completely unreasonable. You don't
> create the impression of being someone that will be easy to
> work with either ;-)

If I were leaving AL for NJ in Feb/Mar, I probably wouldn't be, either... :)


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nor...@earthlink.net

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Mar 3, 2009, 3:21:27 PM3/3/09
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HeyBub wrote:
> Ernie Willson wrote:
>> HeyBub wrote:
>>> Ernie Willson wrote:
>>>> I need a company to pickup, pack and ship a mirror from Tuscaloosa
>>>> Alabama to central NJ. The mirror is about 5ft by 3 ft and the frame
>>>> is about 2 1/2 inches thick. Total weight is about 80 pounds.
>>>>
>>>> Any suggestions about how to get this done (economically) would be
>>>> appreciated.
>>>>
>>>> I calculated the cost via UPS to be about $300.00 which is more
>>>> than I can justify for the mirror.
>>>>
>>> Build a sturdy box and ship it motor freight. Maybe $60 in freight
>>> charge.
>> Thanks for your reply, but I need what I asked for..pickup, packing,
>> and shipping. I am in NJ, not Ala. The shipper must do all three
>> things, not just shipping.
>>
>
> UPS doesn't pack.

UPS stores pack, as in "pack and ship".

nor...@earthlink.net

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Mar 3, 2009, 3:29:34 PM3/3/09
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Malcolm Hoar wrote:
> In article <49ad7096$0$4983$9a6e...@news.newshosting.com>, Ernie Willson <ewil...@comcast.net> wrote:
>
>> Thanks for your reply, but I need what I asked for..pickup, packing, and
>> shipping. The shipper must do all three things, not just shipping. There
>> is no one who will pack this for me. When I looked at UPS the total bill
>> for these three services was about $300.00.
>
> Looks like you have your answer.
>
> If saving $$$ becomes more compelling, you can do some of the
> work yourself for less money (like the packing).
>
> Frankly, $300 does not seem completely unreasonable. You don't
> create the impression of being someone that will be easy to
> work with either ;-)
>
>
>

Four of the past five Christmases, UPS broke something that I either
sent or received. I would not choose UPS to send something breakable,
no matter how carefully packed. When UPS broke something that I had
insured, I had to jump through hoops to get back the purchase price.
Since I had purchased the item online, my cost included shipping to me,
but UPS does not reimburse that. I had the item packed at the UPS
store, more than due diligence, with "breakable" and "this side up" all
over it....the only way they could have broken it was to stand it on
it's side and drop something heavy on top of it.

Even if the sender can't pack it, they might be able to build a frame
for it so there is no way of compressing it - wood around four sides and
a length of wood across front and back. If there is no time pressure, a
mover would be my choice.

Oren

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Mar 3, 2009, 3:38:40 PM3/3/09
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On Tue, 03 Mar 2009 12:17:54 -0800, Oren <Or...@127.0.0.1> wrote:

>On Tue, 03 Mar 2009 13:13:37 -0500, Ernie Willson
><ewil...@comcast.net> wrote:
>
>>Thanks for your reply, but I need what I asked for..pickup, packing, and
>>shipping. I am in NJ, not Ala. The shipper must do all three things, not
>>just shipping.
>
>See if this company can ship the mirror. A free call!
>

I gave the wrong link I was thinking of in my other post.

THIS company has locations in Alabama. North and Central New Jersey.

*Craters & Freighters *

http://www.cratersandfreighters.com/cf/welcome.do

Sorry for mix up.

Eric in North TX

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Mar 3, 2009, 6:59:42 PM3/3/09
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On Mar 3, 2:29 pm, "norm...@earthlink.net" <norm...@earthlink.net>
wrote:
> Malcolm Hoar wrote:

UPS is a good choice IF you understand their service; this side up
means nothing at all, they should be able to jump on any side and not
break it, or in their opinion it is inadequately packed. You need to
envision the entire truck load as your package, plus a few hundred
loose bowling balls, if you packed it to survive that, it will be
likely delivered on time with a smile, and a thank you. Again it is a
great service, but they have no allowance for fragile in their system.
You have to UPS proof you package.

nor...@earthlink.net

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Mar 3, 2009, 8:31:23 PM3/3/09
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Combined with an arrow pointing "up", the words indicate that the arrow
should point up at all times. At least to those who speak and
understand English.

they should be able to jump on any side and not

Why do they spend money for "Fragile" and "Handle with Care" stickers?
Just a decoration?

> break it, or in their opinion it is inadequately packed. You need to
> envision the entire truck load as your package, plus a few hundred
> loose bowling balls, if you packed it to survive that, it will be
> likely delivered on time with a smile, and a thank you.

No, actually, it can be sent to the wrong address, after being snowed in
in Memphis for a few days. The UPS store switched labels for two
parcels I sent at the same time. One was to be the gift for my
brother's last Christmas.


Again it is a
> great service, but they have no allowance for fragile in their system.
> You have to UPS proof you package.

UPS proof is sending FedEx or USPS.

Ed Pawlowski

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Mar 3, 2009, 9:43:02 PM3/3/09
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"Ernie Willson" <ewil...@comcast.net> wrote in message
>
> Thanks for your reply, but I need what I asked for..pickup, packing, and
> shipping. The shipper must do all three things, not just shipping. There
> is no one who will pack this for me. When I looked at UPS the total bill
> for these three services was about $300.00.
>
> EJ in NJ

For those services, that is very reasonable. There are very few companies
that do packing and none work cheap. To properly crate that for truck
handling, material alone can be well over $50 to $75. Be sure to ask about
insurance and assign a value to it.


aemeijers

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Mar 3, 2009, 10:09:59 PM3/3/09
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Eric in North TX wrote:
> On Mar 3, 2:29 pm, "norm...@earthlink.net" <norm...@earthlink.net>
> wrote:
>> Malcolm Hoar wrote:
>>> In article <49ad7096$0$4983$9a6e1...@news.newshosting.com>, Ernie Willson <ewill...@comcast.net> wrote:
(snip)

>
> UPS is a good choice IF you understand their service; this side up
> means nothing at all, they should be able to jump on any side and not
> break it, or in their opinion it is inadequately packed. You need to
> envision the entire truck load as your package, plus a few hundred
> loose bowling balls, if you packed it to survive that, it will be
> likely delivered on time with a smile, and a thank you. Again it is a
> great service, but they have no allowance for fragile in their system.
> You have to UPS proof you package.

I'll second that. I've shipped lots of CPUs via UPS, and never had a
fatality, but I always overpack the hell out of them. The
foam/airpacks/cardboard always weigh as much as the contents. $300 is
not THAT out of line for building a crate around an odd-size mirror, and
shipping it. If the mirror is not worth that much, dollar-wise or as an
heirloom, sell it and buy a new one. Is UPS literally the only shipper
in town? No other companies under 'shipping' or 'packing and mailing' in
the local phonebook? Picking up the naked item at OP's house accounts
for a big chunk of the $300 by itself. If he can get the item to
shipper's location, the price should go down a bunch. If local moving
company doesn't want to handle a one-box deal, they probably still sell
their fancy moving boxes at retail- I'm sure the slide-to-fit boxes they
use for framed paintings would probably work for a mirror. If OP can
have a sealed box waiting, that will likely cut what UPS wants to
charge, even if they pick it up.

--
aem sends...

Tony Hwang

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Mar 3, 2009, 10:19:17 PM3/3/09
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Hi,
You'll have to crate it just to be safe. If 300.00 is too much for you,
better forget all about it.

Tony Hwang

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Mar 3, 2009, 11:27:14 PM3/3/09
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Hi,
UPS put a fork lift arm into vintage guitar amp in transit.
Looks like it was intentional. Was insured and money was recovered
but the amp was a wreck. Fedex seems little better.

benick

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Mar 4, 2009, 12:05:56 AM3/4/09
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"Tony Hwang" <drag...@shaw.ca> wrote in message
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How about taking a weekend and driving down to get it yourself???? Probably
the safest and cheapest way to go.....

bob haller

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Mar 4, 2009, 7:52:45 AM3/4/09
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On Mar 3, 3:29�pm, "norm...@earthlink.net" <norm...@earthlink.net>
wrote:
> Malcolm Hoar wrote:
> mover would be my choice.- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

UPS brown packed some valuable equiptement, shipped it UPS and it got
broken:(

UPS claimed it was UPS browns fault, UPS brown claimed it was UPS
fault:( i ended up taking the loss and will never use ups brown again!

they are two seperate useless companies, running under the same
banner.

recently UPS SMASHED a box on the glass warning sticker, destroying
the 300 value glass lamps inside, the box actually was bowed, the
manucacturers hard foam packing broken.

called UPS for OVER A MONTH! they never responded to send a agent to
inspect. the supplier said not our problem.

so one day I went to the UPS terminal, on a busy pre thanksgiving day
and showed off their handiwork to the long line of waiting customers:)

Then ranted at the counter, soon therafter they paid the shipper and
my merchandise was replaced.

UPS has gotten pretty good at sucky customer service

bob haller

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Mar 4, 2009, 8:08:17 AM3/4/09
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call united van lines, they can handle the entire job.....

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