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micky
Mar 9, 2021, 4:15:24 PM3/9/21
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Fun Facts
If you wind the cord from your earbuds into a circle, they always get
tangled when you try to use them.
If you fold them over and over until they're short enough to put where
you want them, they unfold with much less gangling than the method
above. At least in my experience.
There must be some branch of science or math or industry that deals with
stuff like this. Anyone know?
If you wind the cord from your earbuds into a circle, they always get
tangled when you try to use them.
If you fold them over and over until they're short enough to put where
you want them, they unfold with much less gangling than the method
above. At least in my experience.
There must be some branch of science or math or industry that deals with
stuff like this. Anyone know?
Rod Speed
Mar 9, 2021, 4:20:59 PM3/9/21
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"micky" <NONONO...@fmguy.com> wrote in message
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nospam
Mar 9, 2021, 4:52:41 PM3/9/21
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In article <s3pf4ghj6i8jrb094...@4ax.com>, micky
it's called knot theory.
<https://www.sciencealert.com/the-mathematical-law-that-causes-your-head
phones-to-tangle>
But between 46 centimetres and 150 centimetres (about five feet), the
probability of a knot forming rises dramatically. With a cord longer
than that, the probability of a knot forming reaches a plateau of 50
percent.
...
"At least" because earbuds are, of course, a Y-shaped string, and
thus the knotting frequency is compounded further. (Raymer and Smith
didn't look at strings with more than one branch, but anecdotally I
can confirm that the tangle-rate is pretty high.)
<https://www.pnas.org/content/pnas/104/42/16432/F2.large.jpg>
<https://www.sciencealert.com/the-mathematical-law-that-causes-your-head
phones-to-tangle>
But between 46 centimetres and 150 centimetres (about five feet), the
probability of a knot forming rises dramatically. With a cord longer
than that, the probability of a knot forming reaches a plateau of 50
percent.
...
"At least" because earbuds are, of course, a Y-shaped string, and
thus the knotting frequency is compounded further. (Raymer and Smith
didn't look at strings with more than one branch, but anecdotally I
can confirm that the tangle-rate is pretty high.)
<https://www.pnas.org/content/pnas/104/42/16432/F2.large.jpg>
nospam
Mar 9, 2021, 4:52:43 PM3/9/21
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In article <iaq75l...@mid.individual.net>, Rod Speed
<rod.sp...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > If you wind the cord from your earbuds into a circle, they always get
> > tangled when you try to use them.
> >
> > If you fold them over and over until they're short enough to put where
> > you want them, they unfold with much less gangling than the method
> > above. At least in my experience.
> >
> >
> > There must be some branch of science or math or industry that deals with
> > stuff like this. Anyone know?
>
> Yep, ergonomics.
not ergonomics.
> > If you wind the cord from your earbuds into a circle, they always get
> > tangled when you try to use them.
> >
> > If you fold them over and over until they're short enough to put where
> > you want them, they unfold with much less gangling than the method
> > above. At least in my experience.
> >
> >
> > There must be some branch of science or math or industry that deals with
> > stuff like this. Anyone know?
>
> Yep, ergonomics.
Joerg Lorenz
Mar 9, 2021, 5:01:05 PM3/9/21
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Am 09.03.21 um 22:15 schrieb micky:
Sure!
The manufacturers of Bluetooth and Wifi headsets.
This was easy ...
The manufacturers of Bluetooth and Wifi headsets.
This was easy ...
Peeler
Mar 9, 2021, 5:19:12 PM3/9/21
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On Wed, 10 Mar 2021 08:20:46 +1100, cantankerous trolling geezer Rodent
Speed, the auto-contradicting senile sociopath, blabbered, again:
>> There must be some branch of science or math or industry that deals with
>> stuff like this. Anyone know?
>
> Yep, ergonomics.
But it's geriatrics that deals with endlessly bullshitting senile assholes,
senile Rodent!
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Speed, the auto-contradicting senile sociopath, blabbered, again:
>> There must be some branch of science or math or industry that deals with
>> stuff like this. Anyone know?
>
> Yep, ergonomics.
senile Rodent!
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gfre...@aol.com
Mar 9, 2021, 6:41:03 PM3/9/21
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On Tue, 09 Mar 2021 16:15:18 -0500, micky <NONONO...@fmguy.com>
wrote:
It is simple geometry, every loop you put in that cord is a twist. The
only way around it would be to unroll it and not just pull it out.
wrote:
only way around it would be to unroll it and not just pull it out.
Rod Speed
Mar 9, 2021, 7:00:29 PM3/9/21
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Bob F
Mar 9, 2021, 7:22:39 PM3/9/21
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nospam
Mar 9, 2021, 8:20:30 PM3/9/21
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In article <iaqggn...@mid.individual.net>, Rod Speed
<rod.sp...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> > If you wind the cord from your earbuds into a circle, they always get
> >> > tangled when you try to use them.
> >> >
> >> > If you fold them over and over until they're short enough to put where
> >> > you want them, they unfold with much less gangling than the method
> >> > above. At least in my experience.
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > There must be some branch of science or math or industry that deals
> >> > with
> >> > stuff like this. Anyone know?
> >>
> >> Yep, ergonomics.
> >
> > not ergonomics.
> >
> > it's called knot theory.
>
> Tangling isnt a knot.
go read the research paper before digging yourself a deeper hole.
> >> > If you wind the cord from your earbuds into a circle, they always get
> >> > tangled when you try to use them.
> >> >
> >> > If you fold them over and over until they're short enough to put where
> >> > you want them, they unfold with much less gangling than the method
> >> > above. At least in my experience.
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > There must be some branch of science or math or industry that deals
> >> > with
> >> > stuff like this. Anyone know?
> >>
> >> Yep, ergonomics.
> >
> > not ergonomics.
> >
> > it's called knot theory.
>
> Tangling isnt a knot.
Rod Speed
Mar 9, 2021, 9:47:01 PM3/9/21
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gfre...@aol.com
Mar 9, 2021, 10:16:33 PM3/9/21
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the end.
Alan Baker
Mar 9, 2021, 10:45:31 PM3/9/21
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ensure a halyard, sheet or other line runs free when you need it to, you
toss it into a loose pile; only making sure that the bitter end isn't
beneath the pile but rather off to the side.
Sure, we coiled lines for putting the boat away, but never when actually
using them.
Alan Baker
Mar 9, 2021, 10:46:35 PM3/9/21
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How things tangle is definitely a part of "knot theory".
Alan Baker
Mar 9, 2021, 10:48:18 PM3/9/21
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<https://www.pnas.org/content/104/42/16432.full>
And from that:
"We used mathematical knot theory to analyze the knots. Above a critical
string length, the probability P of knotting at first increased sharply
with length but then saturated below 100%"
Rod Speed
Mar 9, 2021, 10:57:14 PM3/9/21
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"Alan Baker" <notony...@no.no.no.no> wrote in message
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> How things tangle is definitely a part of "knot theory".
nospam
Mar 9, 2021, 11:16:53 PM3/9/21
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In article <iaqq8v...@mid.individual.net>, Rod Speed
<rod.sp...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> >> > If you wind the cord from your earbuds into a circle, they always
> >> >> > get
> >> >> > tangled when you try to use them.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > If you fold them over and over until they're short enough to put
> >> >> > where
> >> >> > you want them, they unfold with much less gangling than the method
> >> >> > above. At least in my experience.
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> > There must be some branch of science or math or industry that deals
> >> >> > with
> >> >> > stuff like this. Anyone know?
> >> >>
> >> >> Yep, ergonomics.
> >> >
> >> > not ergonomics.
> >> >
> >> > it's called knot theory.
> >>
> >> Tangling isnt a knot.
> >
> > go read the research paper
>
> Which has nothing to do with the theory, fuckwit.
yes it does and don't snip to alter context.
> >> >> > If you wind the cord from your earbuds into a circle, they always
> >> >> > get
> >> >> > tangled when you try to use them.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > If you fold them over and over until they're short enough to put
> >> >> > where
> >> >> > you want them, they unfold with much less gangling than the method
> >> >> > above. At least in my experience.
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> > There must be some branch of science or math or industry that deals
> >> >> > with
> >> >> > stuff like this. Anyone know?
> >> >>
> >> >> Yep, ergonomics.
> >> >
> >> > not ergonomics.
> >> >
> >> > it's called knot theory.
> >>
> >> Tangling isnt a knot.
> >
> > go read the research paper
>
> Which has nothing to do with the theory, fuckwit.
Rod Speed
Mar 10, 2021, 12:10:34 AM3/10/21
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Irrelevant to what happens with earphone leads, fuckwit.
Rod Speed
Mar 10, 2021, 12:11:45 AM3/10/21
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"nospam" <nos...@nospam.invalid> wrote in message
> and don't snip to alter context.
Alan Baker
Mar 10, 2021, 1:28:09 AM3/10/21
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The subject was the tangling of earphone leads,
You were told the problem was not in the field of ergonomics, but knot
theory, and shown a paper describing the tangling problem.
You declared that tangling isn't a not.
You declared the paper had nothing to do with knot theory.
You were shown it did....
...and now we're back at the top.
Alan Baker
Mar 10, 2021, 1:28:50 AM3/10/21
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>
>> and don't snip to alter context.
>
> Go and fuck yourself, again. Nothing was snipped, fuckwit.
...and you're not good at that either.
Alan Baker
Mar 10, 2021, 1:29:37 AM3/10/21
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You don't have the slightest clue what "knot theory" is in the first place.
micky
Mar 10, 2021, 2:10:19 AM3/10/21
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In alt.home.repair, on Wed, 10 Mar 2021 08:20:46 +1100, "Rod Speed"
Yeah, that's it!
Peeler
Mar 10, 2021, 3:48:29 AM3/10/21
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On Wed, 10 Mar 2021 16:10:19 +1100, cantankerous trolling geezer Rodent
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Speed, the auto-contradicting senile sociopath, blabbered, again:
<FLUSH the trolling senile asshole's latest trollshit unread>
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Peeler
Mar 10, 2021, 3:52:01 AM3/10/21
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On Wed, 10 Mar 2021 02:10:10 -0500, micky mouse, the notorious,
troll-feeding, senile ASSHOLE, blathered again:
>>Yep, ergonomics.
>
> Yeah, that's it!
It's a troll, can't you see, dumb micky mouse? <BG>
troll-feeding, senile ASSHOLE, blathered again:
>>Yep, ergonomics.
>
> Yeah, that's it!
nospam
Mar 10, 2021, 7:24:40 AM3/10/21
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In article <iar2oa...@mid.individual.net>, Rod Speed
> > and don't snip to alter context.
>
> Go and fuck yourself, again. Nothing was snipped, fuckwit.
also false.
here's what i originally wrote, before you snipped it:
In article <090320212020251237%nos...@nospam.invalid>, nospam
<nos...@nospam.invalid> wrote:
> In article <iaqggn...@mid.individual.net>, Rod Speed
<rod.sp...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> >> >
> >> >> > it's called knot theory.
> >> >>
> >> >> Tangling isnt a knot.
> >> >
> >> > go read the research paper
> >>
> >> Which has nothing to do with the theory, fuckwit.
> >
> > yes it does
>
> Bullshit it does. Earphone leads are nothing like cords.
false.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > it's called knot theory.
> >> >>
> >> >> Tangling isnt a knot.
> >> >
> >> > go read the research paper
> >>
> >> Which has nothing to do with the theory, fuckwit.
> >
> > yes it does
>
> Bullshit it does. Earphone leads are nothing like cords.
> > and don't snip to alter context.
>
> Go and fuck yourself, again. Nothing was snipped, fuckwit.
here's what i originally wrote, before you snipped it:
In article <090320212020251237%nos...@nospam.invalid>, nospam
<nos...@nospam.invalid> wrote:
> In article <iaqggn...@mid.individual.net>, Rod Speed
Chris
Mar 10, 2021, 8:30:21 AM3/10/21
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micky <NONONO...@fmguy.com> wrote:
> Fun Facts
>
> If you wind the cord from your earbuds into a circle, they always get
> tangled when you try to use them.
>
> If you fold them over and over until they're short enough to put where
> you want them, they unfold with much less gangling than the method
> above. At least in my experience.
>
>
> There must be some branch of science or math or industry that deals with
> stuff like this. Anyone know?
Yep "string theory" :)
> Fun Facts
>
> If you wind the cord from your earbuds into a circle, they always get
> tangled when you try to use them.
>
> If you fold them over and over until they're short enough to put where
> you want them, they unfold with much less gangling than the method
> above. At least in my experience.
>
>
> There must be some branch of science or math or industry that deals with
> stuff like this. Anyone know?
Andy Burns
Mar 11, 2021, 8:18:07 AM3/11/21
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micky wrote:
> If you wind the cord from your earbuds into a circle, they always get
> tangled when you try to use them.
Maybe you should "roadie wrap" the cord?
> If you wind the cord from your earbuds into a circle, they always get
> tangled when you try to use them.
Alan Baker
Mar 11, 2021, 10:07:12 PM3/11/21
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...but what do you think it is?
:-)
Joe Beanfish
Mar 12, 2021, 10:11:31 AM3/12/21
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My life got flipped, turned upside down
And I'd like to take a minute just sit right there
I'll tell you how ...
Oh wait, you said Wrap... nvm
Alan Baker
Mar 12, 2021, 4:23:12 PM3/12/21
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I doff my cap, sir!
Rod Speed
Mar 12, 2021, 5:35:45 PM3/12/21
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Stop doffing your cap, you dinosaur cur.
Peeler
Mar 12, 2021, 5:40:36 PM3/12/21
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On Sat, 13 Mar 2021 09:35:32 +1100, cantankerous trolling geezer Rodent
Nembutal! It's overdue!
Speed, the auto-contradicting senile sociopath, blabbered, again:
>> I doff my cap, sir!
>
> Stop doffing your cap, you dinosaur cur.
Go to bed, you sick senile trolling swine! Or, even better, swallow your
>
> Stop doffing your cap, you dinosaur cur.
Nembutal! It's overdue!
Alan Baker
Mar 12, 2021, 5:40:48 PM3/12/21
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Make me, you little pussy.
:-)
Andy Burns
Mar 13, 2021, 4:09:21 AM3/13/21
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Alan Baker wrote:
> I think I know what a "roadie wrap" is...
> ...but what do you think it is?
over-worked, under-paid, over-worked, under-paid ...
> I think I know what a "roadie wrap" is...
> ...but what do you think it is?
<https://youtu.be/kda4DPAn3C4>
Alan Baker
Mar 13, 2021, 5:28:03 PM3/13/21
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It's great for coiling a cable or anything else where twisting in only
one direction will cause the rest of the whatever to get progressively
more and more twisted; especially when you're dealing with something
very long.
What it won't do is prevent tangles when you uncoil it.
:-)
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