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Davej

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Jun 14, 2012, 9:52:39 AM6/14/12
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On the front and back of my garage the shingles overhand the edge of
the roof by a few inches. Is there a standard way to support this edge
so that a ladder can be used without crushing the shingles? Thanks.

Doug

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Jun 14, 2012, 11:33:22 AM6/14/12
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On Thu, 14 Jun 2012 06:52:39 -0700 (PDT), Davej <gal...@hotmail.com>
wrote:

>On the front and back of my garage the shingles overhand the edge of
>the roof by a few inches. Is there a standard way to support this edge
>so that a ladder can be used without crushing the shingles? Thanks.


Yes, I have it on my new roof from last year. I don't know what they
call it but any roofer can tell you. I will call it a metal drip edge
but don't trust me and call some roofers or maybe a home depot or the
like.

Jon Danniken

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Jun 14, 2012, 11:39:19 AM6/14/12
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You can use a ladder stanoff; ladder-max (www.buyladder-max.com) is one
choice.

Jon


Larry

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Jun 14, 2012, 11:42:17 AM6/14/12
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Davej <gal...@hotmail.com> wrote in news:93c62ff4-56f3-42da-8940-
271b3d...@n33g2000vbi.googlegroups.com:

> On the front and back of my garage the shingles overhand the edge of
> the roof by a few inches. Is there a standard way to support this edge
> so that a ladder can be used without crushing the shingles? Thanks.

You could use ladder stand off attachments for your ladder. I have these
and they work great, helps stabilize the ladder too.

http://www.homehardware.ca/en/rec/index.htm/Hardware/Ladders-
Scaffolding/Ladders/Accessories/Stand-Off-Ladder-Arms/_/N-ntjw2/R-I5435946

Davej

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Jun 14, 2012, 2:01:52 PM6/14/12
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On Jun 14, 10:39 am, Jon Danniken <jonSPAMdanni...@yaSMPAhoo.com>
wrote:
No, I have a ladder standoff but it is not effective for this because
the shingle edge is already on an overhang of several feet. Similar to
this photo:

http://www.aaffordablegaragedoors.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/04/garage_door_pulled_out_large1.jpg

HellT

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Jun 14, 2012, 2:56:19 PM6/14/12
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On 6/14/2012 1:01 PM, Davej wrote:
> On Jun 14, 10:39 am, Jon Danniken<jonSPAMdanni...@yaSMPAhoo.com>
> wrote:
>> On 06/14/2012 06:52 AM, Davej wrote:
>>
>>> On the front and back of my garage the shingles overhand the edge of
>>> the roof by a few inches. Is there a standard way to support this edge
>>> so that a ladder can be used without crushing the shingles? Thanks.
>>
>> You can use a ladder stanoff; ladder-max (www.buyladder-max.com) is one
>> choice.
>>
>> Jon
>
> No, I have a ladder standoff but it is not effective for this because
> the shingle edge is already on an overhang of several feet.

The Ladder-Max standoff arms can brace the ladder on the roof, above
the dripline, as shown here:

http://stores.homestead.com/LadderMaxLLC/-strse-template/lmhome/Page.bok

hr(bob) hofmann@att.net

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Jun 14, 2012, 6:10:00 PM6/14/12
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Neat!

k...@att.bizzzzzzzzzzzz

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Jun 14, 2012, 7:07:14 PM6/14/12
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On Thu, 14 Jun 2012 10:33:22 -0500, "Doug" <noemail...@msn.com> wrote:

>On Thu, 14 Jun 2012 06:52:39 -0700 (PDT), Davej <gal...@hotmail.com>
>wrote:
>
>>On the front and back of my garage the shingles overhand the edge of
>>the roof by a few inches. Is there a standard way to support this edge
>>so that a ladder can be used without crushing the shingles? Thanks.

You can use a ladder stabilizer against either the fascia or the roof itself,
if there are gutters.
>
>Yes, I have it on my new roof from last year. I don't know what they
>call it but any roofer can tell you. I will call it a metal drip edge
>but don't trust me and call some roofers or maybe a home depot or the
>like.

The technical term is a "drip edge". ;-) The shingles should still extend
slightly, maybe 1/2" beyond the drip edge and can still be broken if you're
not careful with a ladder.

k...@att.bizzzzzzzzzzzz

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Jun 14, 2012, 7:10:22 PM6/14/12
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Here are a couple of more from Werner. I think I have the one at the top.
I've had it for fifteen years, give or take, and it works very well. I always
use it when painting.

k...@att.bizzzzzzzzzzzz

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Jun 14, 2012, 7:11:16 PM6/14/12
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Oops, let go of that one too soon.

The link:
http://www.lowes.com/SearchCatalogDisplay?Ntt=ladder+stabilizer&storeId=10151&N=0&langId=-1&catalogId=10051&rpp=24

cl...@snyder.on.ca

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Jun 14, 2012, 8:29:17 PM6/14/12
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On Thu, 14 Jun 2012 06:52:39 -0700 (PDT), Davej <gal...@hotmail.com>
wrote:

>On the front and back of my garage the shingles overhand the edge of
>the roof by a few inches. Is there a standard way to support this edge
>so that a ladder can be used without crushing the shingles? Thanks.
First of all the shingles should NOT overhang the roof that far - but
the answer to your problem is a set of "legs" that fit the ladder and
touch the doof surface instead of the eaves.

You can make your own - see:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yTCXPKFG2Xs

or go to:
http://www.amazon.com/Ladder-Stabilizer-Roof-Zone-48589/dp/B006C4VD04

To buy a better commercial product.

cl...@snyder.on.ca

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Jun 14, 2012, 8:32:27 PM6/14/12
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On Thu, 14 Jun 2012 11:01:52 -0700 (PDT), Davej <gal...@hotmail.com>
wrote:
For the gable end, have fun!!!! For the Eave side, the standoff goes
ON THE ROOF, not against the wall. The home emade stand-off could be
made with 2 different lengths to fit the roof slope, but I'd want an
outrigger on the bottom of the ladder as well.

Ed Pawlowski

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Jun 14, 2012, 10:49:10 PM6/14/12
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On Thu, 14 Jun 2012 06:52:39 -0700 (PDT), Davej <gal...@hotmail.com>
wrote:

>On the front and back of my garage the shingles overhand the edge of
>the roof by a few inches. Is there a standard way to support this edge
>so that a ladder can be used without crushing the shingles? Thanks.


I just got the Shingles vaccine. I wonder if that would help in your
case.

k...@att.bizzzzzzzzzzzz

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Jun 14, 2012, 10:55:23 PM6/14/12
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I think it's too late if the shingles are already hanging over a couple of
inches.

cl...@snyder.on.ca

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Jun 14, 2012, 10:57:19 PM6/14/12
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On Thu, 14 Jun 2012 22:49:10 -0400, Ed Pawlowski <e...@snet.net> wrote:

Gen mine Monday

Doug

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Jun 15, 2012, 2:12:34 AM6/15/12
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I will look closer at mine to see if that's true. I didn't think it
extends that much but let me look first. I like the idea tho of the
ladder stabilizer regardless. Seems safer by the sound of it.

mark

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Jun 15, 2012, 6:16:21 AM6/15/12
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Wrap and tie old carpet around the each of the top 2 rails of the ladder

k...@att.bizzzzzzzzzzzz

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Jun 15, 2012, 2:03:16 PM6/15/12
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On Fri, 15 Jun 2012 10:16:21 +0000 (UTC), mark <mart...@gmail.com> wrote:

>
>
>Wrap and tie old carpet around the each of the top 2 rails of the ladder

That might help prevent paint scuffing but won't protect the shingles.

k...@att.bizzzzzzzzzzzz

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Jun 15, 2012, 2:02:11 PM6/15/12
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They're great for painting. They get the ladder about a foot away from the
wall so you can reach under. The spread also makes it safer to reach outside
the ladder. They can also be put on the bottom end to spread the base, though
I've never used mine that way.

Doug

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Jun 16, 2012, 7:11:20 AM6/16/12
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On Fri, 15 Jun 2012 14:02:11 -0400, "k...@att.bizzzzzzzzzzzz"
Excellent points to consider. I may buy one tho I prefer not to
really use my ladder on my 2 story home alone :(

k...@att.bizzzzzzzzzzzz

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Jun 16, 2012, 9:13:15 AM6/16/12
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Two people on a ladder is not recommended. ;-)

Doug

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Jun 16, 2012, 11:15:53 AM6/16/12
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On Sat, 16 Jun 2012 09:13:15 -0400, "k...@att.bizzzzzzzzzzzz"
I meant one on the base holding the ladder but still not really
wanting to climb 2 stories nowadays. I have back problems and lack
the balance I had when I was younger.

k...@att.bizzzzzzzzzzzz

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Jun 16, 2012, 11:40:36 PM6/16/12
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Sure, but my (intentional mis)reading was funnier.

>but still not really wanting to climb 2 stories nowadays.
>I have back problems and lack the balance I had when I was younger.

My problem is my feet and knees. Working on a ladder, particularly an
extension ladder, for any time is a bitch.

HerHusband

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Jun 17, 2012, 11:58:23 AM6/17/12
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Dave,

> On the front and back of my garage the shingles overhand the edge of
> the roof by a few inches. Is there a standard way to support this edge
> so that a ladder can be used without crushing the shingles?

Before I installed gutters on our house, I would screw a 2x4 to the fascia
board. This let me lean the ladder against the roof edge without damaging
the shingles or the metal drip edge.

Anthony
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