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Judi

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Aug 28, 2002, 8:48:34 AM8/28/02
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Hi folks... this may not be the right place for this post... but I
thought I'd try... A while ago we planted pussy willow trees in our yard
- within 2 years... they grew so tall - and infringed on our neighbors
property - we decided to remove them... BUT - we still have the
stumps... which grow buds out of the sides, hence - creating new
trees... what is the "safe" way to kill a tree stump? We have 2 Great
Danes and neighborhood cats roam our yard every once in a while - so we
are not wanting to use anything poisonous... or, if we have to use
poisonous (something) - cover the stump?...

Thanks in Advance,
Judi

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can be judged by the way its animals are treated."
~ Mohandas Gandhi


Joe

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Aug 28, 2002, 9:26:24 AM8/28/02
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<< what is the "safe" way to kill a tree stump? >>

Try coating the live area just under the bark with full strength Roundup
applied with a paint brush. Get the Roundup concentrate (About $10 a quart).
Worked for me on some persistent shrubbery. Good luck.

Joe

Chris

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Aug 28, 2002, 9:32:11 AM8/28/02
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Judi <delge...@verizon.net> wrote in news:3D6CC849...@verizon.net:

The best way is to rent a stump grinder (or hire a service) and get rid of
it once and for all.

Chris

MLD

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Aug 28, 2002, 10:39:44 AM8/28/02
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I just kept cutting them off and after a while they stopped coming.
MLD
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Bob

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Aug 28, 2002, 12:08:25 PM8/28/02
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Why antifreeze? Wouldn't a chemical designed as a plant killer make more
sense?

Bob

"Igor15330" <ignoram...@NOSPAM.15330.invalid> wrote in message
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> How about antifreeze?
>
> I would try to drill 1 inch holes in the top of the stump as well as
> the visible roots and then pour antifreeze into them.
>
> igor
>
> Joe <jbo...@aol.comnospam> wrote:
> * << what is the "safe" way to kill a tree stump? >>
> *
> * Try coating the live area just under the bark with full strength Roundup
> * applied with a paint brush. Get the Roundup concentrate (About $10 a
quart).
> * Worked for me on some persistent shrubbery. Good luck.
> *
> * Joe
> *


Ed J

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Aug 28, 2002, 12:52:19 PM8/28/02
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You could still have your pussy willows by keeping them under
control. Decide what size you want the shrubs to grow to and
just prune them back to stay at that size. Just get out the
pruning shears a couple times a year to keep them the size
you want.

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Tim Fischer

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Aug 28, 2002, 12:56:23 PM8/28/02
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RoundUp Concentrate.

Read the bottle-- follow instructions for "stumps".

-Tim

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Judi

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Aug 28, 2002, 1:59:11 PM8/28/02
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Thank you so much John... That is something I already knew ;) I am heavily
involved with humane education and rescue :)

Judi

"John‰                                                                  " wrote:

> In article <slrnampl4a.ju7...@nospam.invalid>, Igor15330


> <ignoram...@NOSPAM.15330.invalid> wrote:
>
> > How about antifreeze?
> >
> > I would try to drill 1 inch holes in the top of the stump as well as
> > the visible roots and then pour antifreeze into them.
> >
> > igor
>

> Very bad idea.
>
> Anti-freeze tastes like kool-aid to pets. Because antifreeze consists
> of about 95% ethlene glycol (which is extremely toxic to both animals
> and humans) as little as 3-4 tablespoons can kill a dog of medium size.
>
> Remember that when you flush your radiator this fall. That puddle in
> the driveway can kill your dog or cat.
>
> John

Judi

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Aug 28, 2002, 2:00:04 PM8/28/02
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Just wanted to let you all know your advice is ALWAYS greatly appreciated!

Thank you!
Judi

Terry

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Aug 28, 2002, 2:29:12 PM8/28/02
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Judi wrote:
>
> Hi folks... this may not be the right place for this post... but I
> thought I'd try... A while ago we planted pussy willow trees in our yard
> - within 2 years... they grew so tall - and infringed on our neighbors
> property - we decided to remove them... BUT - we still have the
> stumps... which grow buds out of the sides, hence - creating new
> trees... what is the "safe" way to kill a tree stump?

Judi: Could you let me know how you solve. We've got a similar
problem; roots and new sprigs coming up everywhere, especially
from two trees we cut off. No matter how many time we mow over
them etc. Although they are not pussy willows.
I'm going to have to dig out the runner/roots which fortunately
are just below the surface!
I have heard that drilling holes in the larger stumps and pouring
in battery acid (sulphuric acid) will kill tree stumps?
Q: Are not some pets attracted to licking at certain types of
spilled antifreeze? One of the types of '.....glycol". No pets
here at present btw.
Terry.

Garry Wiegand

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Aug 28, 2002, 4:29:56 PM8/28/02
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ignoram...@NOSPAM.15330.invalid (Igor15330) wrote:
>Antifreeze contains ethylen glycol. That is the agent that kills wood
>and everything fungal.

I can't find any confirmation out on the net for using ethylene glycol to
kill stumps.

But there -are- some stories saying that it's great for killing wood fungus
and for general wood preservation. See for example
http://home.att.net/~DaveCarnell/rot.html.

As others have said, be real careful using it.

Garry

Tim Fischer

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Aug 28, 2002, 6:23:54 PM8/28/02
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You obviously don't have a dog. Dogs' tongues can go anywhere!

And why on earth wouldn't you use a product designed for the job??

-Tim

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> John? <jme...@earthlink.net> wrote:
> * In article <slrnampl4a.ju7...@nospam.invalid>, Igor15330
> * <ignoram...@NOSPAM.15330.invalid> wrote:
> *
> * > How about antifreeze?
> * >
> * > I would try to drill 1 inch holes in the top of the stump as well as
> * > the visible roots and then pour antifreeze into them.
> * >
> * > igor
> *
> * Very bad idea.
> *
> * Anti-freeze tastes like kool-aid to pets. Because antifreeze consists
> * of about 95% ethlene glycol (which is extremely toxic to both animals
> * and humans) as little as 3-4 tablespoons can kill a dog of medium size.
>
> how can a dog get to antifreeze poured into holes drilled in the stump???
>
> igor
>
> * Remember that when you flush your radiator this fall. That puddle in
> * the driveway can kill your dog or cat.
> *
> * John


DLB

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Aug 28, 2002, 8:11:11 PM8/28/02
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"Judi" <delge...@verizon.net> wrote in message
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> Hi folks... this may not be the right place for this post... but I
> thought I'd try... A while ago we planted pussy willow trees in our yard
> - within 2 years... they grew so tall - and infringed on our neighbors
> property - we decided to remove them... BUT - we still have the
> stumps... which grow buds out of the sides, hence - creating new
> trees... what is the "safe" way to kill a tree stump? We have 2 Great
> Danes and neighborhood cats roam our yard every once in a while - so we
> are not wanting to use anything poisonous... or, if we have to use
> poisonous (something) - cover the stump?...
>
> Thanks in Advance,
> Judi

I have had good results driving long, thin brass (copper) screws into the
trunk, visible roots and new growth when and if any develops.

Takes a bit of time, but it works.

DLB


VB

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Aug 29, 2002, 12:52:14 AM8/29/02
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Saw a lot of feedback concerning chemicals with this, but what's wrong with
the elbow grease method of digging around them and using an axe to cut them
off?

Sure, it's a heck of a lot more work - I just did that with 2 trees in my
backyard and ended up digging 3 feet on either side, 2 feet down to get to
the major roots, but I have an 8-month old baby girl, and I didn't want to
use any chemicals at all. Plus now I can rototill at will.

Of course, I was laid off at the time, didn't have anything better to do
that day, and needed to lose weight to boot. And I slept REALLY well that
night.

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RamblinOn

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Aug 29, 2002, 5:20:17 AM8/29/02
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VB wrote:

clipped

>
> Of course, I was laid off at the time, didn't have anything better to do
> that day, and needed to lose weight to boot. And I slept REALLY well that
> night.
>

Good for you! Hope things are better. Physical labor helps keep the
goblins away when life isn't going according to plan :o)

Phisherman

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Aug 29, 2002, 7:27:10 AM8/29/02
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Sometimes it is just easier to allow the stump to rot on its own.
I've seen many "creations" people have made from stumps, some quite
attractive. You can use potassium nitrate (nitrogen fertilizer
0-0-34) packed into deep holes drilled into the stump and it is not
particularly hazardous or poisonous.

ralft

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Aug 30, 2002, 10:32:55 AM8/30/02
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There is a chemical specifically intended (sold for) the purpose of forcing
a tree stump to rot rapidly. Check your hardware or garden supply stores.
The active ingredient is Potassium Nitrate and you may be able to buy this
in a farm fertilizer supply house. The copper nails as suggested also
definitely will work.
Now a question about antifreeze. How is one supposed to dispose of it safely
and correctly. For several years, I have been pouring it on my compost heap
and then watering it in. Are there any ill effects to be expected from this?
I haven't experienced any that I know of.

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Tim Fischer

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Aug 30, 2002, 8:03:15 PM8/30/02
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"ralft" <tf...@hal-pc.org> wrote in message
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> Now a question about antifreeze. How is one supposed to dispose of it
safely
> and correctly. For several years, I have been pouring it on my compost
heap
> and then watering it in. Are there any ill effects to be expected from
this?

GEEZ I hope this is a troll.

On a compost heap? On something you plan to put around next-year's
vegetables???

EEEEEEEWwwwwwwwwwww.

-Tim


Goedjn

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Aug 31, 2002, 4:42:36 PM8/31/02
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> > Now a question about antifreeze. How is one supposed to dispose of it
> safely
> > and correctly. For several years, I have been pouring it on my compost
> heap
> > and then watering it in. Are there any ill effects to be expected from
> this?
>
> GEEZ I hope this is a troll.
>
> On a compost heap? On something you plan to put around next-year's
> vegetables???
>
> EEEEEEEWwwwwwwwwwww.

Oh, come on. The stuff's not a heavy metal, and it's not a biological
hazard,
it;s just a fairly low-grade poison. It would surprise me a LOT if it
didn't
break down fairly quickly on the compost, and there's no WAY it's going
to turn your radishes into lethal time-bombs.

It's probably not helping the compost to digest any, though.

Tim Fischer

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Sep 1, 2002, 2:39:58 PM9/1/02
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Great. Maybe it will end up in my drinking water, or at least in my pond,
where my dog can drink it and die...

(the idiocracy of some here amazes me)

-Tim

"Igor23071" <ignoram...@NOSPAM.23071.invalid> wrote in message
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> I am sure that AF will wash away with water long before "next year"...
>
> igor
>
> Tim Fischer <no...@nospam.com> wrote:
> *
> * "ralft" <tf...@hal-pc.org> wrote in message
> * news:ako2t8$1g93$1...@news.hal-pc.org...
> *
> * > Now a question about antifreeze. How is one supposed to dispose of it
> * safely
> * > and correctly. For several years, I have been pouring it on my compost
> * heap
> * > and then watering it in. Are there any ill effects to be expected from
> * this?
> *
> * GEEZ I hope this is a troll.
> *
> * On a compost heap? On something you plan to put around next-year's
> * vegetables???
> *
> * EEEEEEEWwwwwwwwwwww.
> *
> * -Tim
> *
> *


Phisherman

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Sep 2, 2002, 12:30:55 AM9/2/02
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Never heard avout using antifreeze with stumps. The 34-0-0 fertilizer
is about $5 for a 50# bag--it will help rot the stump and much less
concern about toxic run-off. The fertilizer will work on a compost
too, although a 4-foot compost pile really needs is mixing with
occasional watering.

On 1 Sep 2002 17:39:28 GMT, ignoram...@NOSPAM.23071.invalid
(Igor23071) wrote:

>I am sure that AF will wash away with water long before "next year"...
>
>igor
>
>Tim Fischer <no...@nospam.com> wrote:
>*
>* "ralft" <tf...@hal-pc.org> wrote in message
>* news:ako2t8$1g93$1...@news.hal-pc.org...
>*

>* > Now a question about antifreeze. How is one supposed to dispose of it
>* safely
>* > and correctly. For several years, I have been pouring it on my compost
>* heap
>* > and then watering it in. Are there any ill effects to be expected from
>* this?
>*
>* GEEZ I hope this is a troll.
>*

Tim Fischer

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Sep 2, 2002, 12:35:22 AM9/2/02
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"Igor23071" <ignoram...@NOSPAM.23071.invalid> wrote in message
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> Tim Fischer <no...@nospam.com> wrote:
> Look into yourself... A cup of antifreeze in a pond will not kill you.
> Read, for instance, an MSDS on antifreeze.

Sure. So let's hope thousands of antifreeze-users will dump "one cup" of
antifreeze out into the environment. Oh, forgot, you didn't think about
others...

Just out of curiosity, why would you need to dispose of only "one cup" of
antifreeze?

> I love the word that you just coined, "idiocracy". There is something
> to it.

Uh, better check your dictionary. Didn't coin it.

-Tim


MisssDirtyPants

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Sep 2, 2002, 6:18:46 AM9/2/02
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Tim the wordsmith wrote

>Uh, better check your dictionary. > Didn't coin it.

Its not listed here

http://www.yourdictionary.com/


Brad

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Sep 2, 2002, 10:01:11 AM9/2/02
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In article <2atc9.159185$aA.32719@sccrnsc02>, no...@nospam.com said...

> Great. Maybe it will end up in my drinking water, or at least in my pond,
> where my dog can drink it and die...
>
> (the idiocracy of some here amazes me)

Well, the idiocracy of one, that's for sure.

Tim Fischer

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http://www.dictionary.com/search?q=idiocracy

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Tim Fischer

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Sep 2, 2002, 11:56:45 AM9/2/02
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LMAO @ Brad.

Yes, I'm sure you find it heartening to stick up for a guy pouring out
hazardous wastes in his compost pile...

-Tim

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Brad

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Sep 3, 2002, 8:48:48 AM9/3/02
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In article <1TLc9.107224$_91.1...@rwcrnsc51.ops.asp.att.net>,
no...@nospam.com said...

>
> "Brad" <Br...@nospam.com> wrote in message
> news:MPG.17dd393069ac3c8c98aaca@news...
> > In article <2atc9.159185$aA.32719@sccrnsc02>, no...@nospam.com said...
> > > Great. Maybe it will end up in my drinking water, or at least in my
> pond,
> > > where my dog can drink it and die...
> > >
> > > (the idiocracy of some here amazes me)
> >
> > Well, the idiocracy of one, that's for sure.
>
> LMAO @ Brad.
>
> Yes, I'm sure you find it heartening to stick up for a guy pouring out
> hazardous wastes in his compost pile...

No, I find it heartening to pick at the guy who thinks that one cup of
antifreeze is going to poison his entire pond.

Tim Fischer

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"Brad" <Br...@nospam.com> wrote in message
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> No, I find it heartening to pick at the guy who thinks that one cup of
> antifreeze is going to poison his entire pond.

The quantity "one cup" was brought to the table after I talked about the
pond. Then I asked the poster what event would cause him the need to
dispose of exactly "one cup" of antifreeze. His original post talked about
him doing this regularly, so I guess I'm curious how he finds himself with
"one cup" left over so far.

Please read the threads before attacking. This guy is pouring hazardous
wastes into the environment and bitching at me for calling him on it.

I don't know about his county, but in mine, a simple drive to the drop-off
site gets rid of the stuff safely, and FREE.

-Tim


Goedjn

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Sep 3, 2002, 11:57:23 AM9/3/02
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>
> Please read the threads before attacking. This guy is pouring hazardous
> wastes into the environment and bitching at me for calling him on it.
>
> I don't know about his county, but in mine, a simple drive to the drop-off
> site gets rid of the stuff safely, and FREE.

Yeah, and what do you suppose THEY do with it? Bury it in
glass canisters at Yucca Mountain?

William Brown

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Sep 3, 2002, 3:05:46 PM9/3/02
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Doesn't that drive to the drop off site release a lot of pollutants into
the air? You should be walking.


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lynne

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Sep 4, 2002, 7:57:08 AM9/4/02
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Used antifreeze from vehicle cooling systems does contain toxic heavy
metals. I found that out after my asshole neighbor emptied his right up
against my vegetable bed.

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Goedjn

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Sep 4, 2002, 1:16:53 PM9/4/02
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Well, it *MIGHT*..
http://www.deq.state.or.us/wmc/hw/fsantifreeze.html

But the only such metal *I* can think of is lead from solder-joints,
And the amount of that involved in a single user environment
is so miniscule that I'm not prepared to worry about it after being
processed through a compost heap, even if he IS using the resulting
compost on food-crops, which he might not be.
That said, I wasn't aware until checking that the stuff could be
recycled, which seems like a better idea all the way around...

ralft

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Sep 4, 2002, 7:27:58 PM9/4/02
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This note is just to respond that we do not use the compost for vegetables.
I am interested in learning who accepts old anti freeze for recycling
purposes.

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ralft

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Sep 6, 2002, 12:59:13 AM9/6/02
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In case it makes anyone worry less about our safety, we do not use our
compost for vegetables. But, my understanding was that the AF is quite bio
degradable.

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