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Where can I buy a small quantity of BRASS Carriage Bolts?

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Paint...@unlisted.moo

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May 9, 2016, 1:50:08 AM5/9/16
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I need 14 BRASS Carriage Bolts, 1/4" diameter, 1.5 in long, with brass
nuts. These are for an outdoor patio bench. Steel will rust, so I want
brass (which is what the bench originally had). The local hardware
stores dont carry brass bolts.

Anyone know anywhere that will sell a small amount of them? I'm sure
they are costly, so I dont want to buy a whole case of them.
I need 14 of each, but will probably buy 20 of them.

If I cant find brass, I'd opt for stainless steel, but they are not
available locally either.

Hildabeast

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May 9, 2016, 4:20:04 AM5/9/16
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Dean Hoffman

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May 9, 2016, 6:25:06 AM5/9/16
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Possibly Ace Hardware.


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hub...@ccanoemail.ca

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May 9, 2016, 7:10:47 AM5/9/16
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Just one example... over $ 2. per bolt ! 64 cents per nut ?
Huh. I hope I'm resading that wrong.

http://tinyurl.com/h4e3nkc

... and why wouldn't Fastenal's web page provide a link to the
1/4 20 brass nut that goes with this ? instead of stainless ..
Duh .

http://tinyurl.com/jca6n7g

John T



dadiOH

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May 9, 2016, 7:35:00 AM5/9/16
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I would suggest bronze instead of brass. Stronger, would be about the same
price.


hub...@ccanoemail.ca

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May 9, 2016, 8:16:30 AM5/9/16
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Where would a person find carriage bolts & nuts, or other fasteners,
made of solid bronze ? < not bronze coloured finish >
John T.


rbowman

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May 9, 2016, 9:49:00 AM5/9/16
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On 05/09/2016 06:16 AM, hub...@ccanoemail.ca wrote:
> Where would a person find carriage bolts & nuts, or other fasteners,
> made of solid bronze ? < not bronze coloured finish >

A marine supply if there is one in your area. They won't be cheap and if
you see the word 'yacht' that will cost you even more.

rbowman

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May 9, 2016, 9:50:12 AM5/9/16
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On 05/08/2016 10:49 PM, Paint...@unlisted.moo wrote:
> If I cant find brass, I'd opt for stainless steel, but they are not
> available locally either.
>

What sort of backwoods community do you live in? Brass would be a
stretch but Ace and a couple of other stores in town have a range of
stainless fasteners.

cl...@snyder.on.ca

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May 9, 2016, 11:08:25 AM5/9/16
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On Mon, 9 May 2016 07:34:51 -0400, "dadiOH" <dad...@invalid.com>
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Where are you located? I have a local source for stainless in inch and
metric, as well as brass in metric
Call SpaeNaur Fasteners at 1-800-265-8772

stainless n1/4X1 1/2 is part # 014-804
Unit package is 100 but I've never had a problem buying even in
onzies-twozies.
Brass metric m6x40mm(1.57 inch) is 015-502

They will ship out of Kitchener Ontario.

dadiOH

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May 9, 2016, 11:42:25 AM5/9/16
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Pretty much any place that specializes in fasteners. Here's one. Hex head
is cheaper.

https://www.boltdepot.com/Carriage_bolts_and_Timber_bolts.aspx?nv=l




Retired

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May 9, 2016, 12:15:40 PM5/9/16
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http://www.mcmaster.com/#carriage-and-plow-bolts/=12c4yno
pkg of 10 $ 10.29 bronze 1/4-20

http://www.mcmaster.com/#machine-screw-nuts/=12c4zq6
pkg of 25 $8.36 bronze square 1/4-20

they have SS also if you prefer

Pat

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May 9, 2016, 1:10:00 PM5/9/16
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On Mon, 09 May 2016 05:24:58 -0500, "Dean Hoffman"
<dh0...@windstream.net> wrote:

>On Mon, 09 May 2016 03:20:03 -0500, Hildabeast <hil...@666.com> wrote:
>
>> On 05/08/2016 10:49 PM, Paint...@unlisted.moo wrote:
>>> I need 14 BRASS Carriage Bolts, 1/4" diameter, 1.5 in long, with brass
>>> nuts. These are for an outdoor patio bench. Steel will rust, so I want
>>> brass (which is what the bench originally had). The local hardware
>>> stores dont carry brass bolts.
>>>
>>> Anyone know anywhere that will sell a small amount of them? I'm sure
>>> they are costly, so I dont want to buy a whole case of them.
>>> I need 14 of each, but will probably buy 20 of them.
>>>
>>> If I cant find brass, I'd opt for stainless steel, but they are not
>>> available locally either.

I have 3 places within 3 miles of my house. Ace Hardware, Home Depot,
and Lowe's all have large fastener aisles. They have zinc, stainless,
and brass. Of course, the stainless and brass cost more but I am
impressed by their large selection.

notbob

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May 9, 2016, 1:40:23 PM5/9/16
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On 2016-05-09, Pat <p...@nospam.us> wrote:

> Ace Hardware, Home Depot, and Lowe's all have large fastener
> aisles. They have zinc, stainless, and brass. Of course, the
> stainless and brass cost more but I am impressed by their large
> selection.

There are like aisles in True Value Hardware stores. Also Tractor
Supply Co stores and a Rocky Mtn states chain, Murdoch's Ranch & Home
Supply.

nb

hub...@ccanoemail.ca

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May 9, 2016, 4:59:30 PM5/9/16
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>> Where would a person find carriage bolts & nuts, or other fasteners,
>> made of solid bronze ? < not bronze coloured finish >
>> John T.


>
>Pretty much any place that specializes in fasteners. Here's one. Hex head
>is cheaper.
>
>https://www.boltdepot.com/Carriage_bolts_and_Timber_bolts.aspx?nv=l
>


Thanks -
.. so "silicon bronze" will normally refer to solid material <?>
as opposed to "bronze finish" or somesuch wording
which commonly refers to the colour of the coating.
John T.

dadiOH

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May 9, 2016, 5:16:44 PM5/9/16
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Right. "Bronze finish" means (afaik) electroplated. Just like "galvanized"
has come to mean electroplated with zinc which isn't even CLOSE to
galvanizing by dipping in molten zinc.

BTW, there are numerous bronzes - just as there are numerous stainless
steels - but the only ones we are likely to encounter are silicon bronze and
manganese bronze.




Paint...@unlisted.moo

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May 10, 2016, 12:12:00 AM5/10/16
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I called Fastenal today. The local store did not have the brass carriage
bolts at their store, but could get them from another store in 3 to 4
days. But could not get 1.5 inch, but could get 2 inch. (that would
work). Then they told me the price. $3.87 for EACH bolt. $0.29 for each
nut. Total price for 15 of each, $62.40 PLUS SHIPPING, (or I can pick
them up at the store).

I didn't even ask the shipping price, I just said that's too expensive,
I'm not interested. I hung up the phone.

ACTUALLY, THAT'S FRIKKING ROBBERY !!!

I went to a nearby larger city. True Value hardware had 1.5" x 1/4"
carriage bolts in Stainless Steel for $0.79 each, the nuts were 18 cents
each. I really did not need 15 of them, since several of the old ones
are fine. I bought what I really needed and one spare one. Total cost,
about $8.


Ed Pawlowski

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May 10, 2016, 6:49:43 AM5/10/16
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On 5/9/2016 11:11 PM, Paint...@unlisted.moo wrote:

> I called Fastenal today. The local store did not have the brass carriage
> bolts at their store, but could get them from another store in 3 to 4
> days. But could not get 1.5 inch, but could get 2 inch. (that would
> work). Then they told me the price. $3.87 for EACH bolt. $0.29 for each
> nut. Total price for 15 of each, $62.40 PLUS SHIPPING, (or I can pick
> them up at the store).
>
> I didn't even ask the shipping price, I just said that's too expensive,
> I'm not interested. I hung up the phone.
>
> ACTUALLY, THAT'S FRIKKING ROBBERY !!!

Not really. They sell very few brass carriage bolts. The time of setup
for a small run, a more expensive material, and they the cost of having
it sit in inventory are all factors.

No different in my line of work. Want to buy one non stock part? $500
and I'm breaking even. Want to buy five thousand of them? 50 cents each.

Stormin Mormon

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May 10, 2016, 7:10:13 AM5/10/16
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On 5/9/2016 11:11 PM, Paint...@unlisted.moo wrote:
> I called Fastenal today. The local store did not have the brass carriage
> bolts at their store, but could get them from another store in 3 to 4
> days. But could not get 1.5 inch, but could get 2 inch. (that would
> work). Then they told me the price. $3.87 for EACH bolt. $0.29 for each
> nut. Total price for 15 of each, $62.40 PLUS SHIPPING, (or I can pick
> them up at the store).
>
> I didn't even ask the shipping price, I just said that's too expensive,
> I'm not interested. I hung up the phone.
>
> ACTUALLY, THAT'S FRIKKING ROBBERY !!!
>
> I went to a nearby larger city. True Value hardware had 1.5" x 1/4"
> carriage bolts in Stainless Steel for $0.79 each, the nuts were 18 cents
> each. I really did not need 15 of them, since several of the old ones
> are fine. I bought what I really needed and one spare one. Total cost,
> about $8.
>

Brass would have been nice. I'm pleased you
got your project without spending all that
huge pile of money. And, thanks for the
follow up. Some times I wonder if folks are
doing OK.

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lawrence...@gmail.com

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May 10, 2016, 10:57:24 AM5/10/16
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You could probably shorten some bronze toilet base bolts for that. The head is sort of like a carriage bolt. Lowes and Home Depot should have stainless steel and galvanized choices, both of which are probably suitable for your project.

cl...@snyder.on.ca

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May 10, 2016, 12:53:43 PM5/10/16
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On Tue, 10 May 2016 07:57:19 -0700 (PDT), lawrence...@gmail.com
wrote:
And more expensive than the actual carriage bolt - at least around
here. (and most often 5/16"?) as well as having ugly oval heads.
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