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Re: Sprinkler controller problem - Irritrol Rain Dial RD-600

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Tony Hwang

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Jul 15, 2005, 10:06:20 PM7/15/05
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Peabody wrote:

> My neightbor has a lawn sprinkler system using a Rain Dial
> controller. The controller won't turn on any of the five valves.
>
> I switch the controller to Run/Manual, swtich to a specific
> valve, put run time that valve and hit the Manual start button.
> Instead of turning on that valve, I get a flashing OFF. According
> to the manual this indicates the solenoid is shorted or there is
> some other electrical problem.
>
> However, I get the same result on all valves, and it seems unlikely
> that there is a problem with five valves located in different parts
> of the yard. It seems more likely to me that something is wrong
> with the controller itself - a transistor ror diode blown, or
> something like that.
>
> Another indicator is that the display flashes all the time, which it
> didn't do before.
>
> The battery seems to be ok - the time is correct, and the battery
> measures 8.7V on my meter. That should be close enough, I would
> think.
>
> I guess I'm hoping that someone else here has seen this problem and
> knows what causes it.
>
> Would it be safe to send 24VAC directly to the valves? The current
> wiring is: one hot (?) wire going to each of the five valves, and
> one wire that appears to be a common neutral or ground - this one
> goes through a rain gauge switch. (I shorted across the rain gauge,
> but that didn't help, so that's not the problem.) If 24VAC sent to
> a valve's hot wire and the common neutral makes it operate, then
> that should mean the controller is the problem. If that doesn't
> work, then there is some other problem out underground somewhere.
>
> Any ideas?
>
>
Hi,
Then logic tells me, something is wrong with power supply.
Tony

Peter Wells

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Jul 16, 2005, 7:49:05 AM7/16/05
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I'm no expert on sprinklers so do as you will with this info.

Have you put a voltmeter on a solenoid to see if it is getting power?
According to RainBird their solenoids are 24VAC so you should be able to
power them directly.

Also some installations have a master valve that is in series with the
individual zone valves. If you have one of these, sometimes marked MV on
the controller, it may be bad. You should be able to open the valves
manually to test the plumbing.

Good luck,

Peter


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William Brown

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Jul 16, 2005, 10:36:43 AM7/16/05
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I'm not familiar with that brand, but I had not dissimilar problems with
mine when the backup battery died, so I would check that.

SQLit

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Jul 16, 2005, 10:59:12 AM7/16/05
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Might be a high impedance connection in the wiring. Mark all of the wires,
take them apart and try one at a time, manually. I will bet that all of the
commons are tied together if so that could be the problem area.


Aeroboss

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Oct 14, 2010, 1:26:58 AM10/14/10
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Aeroboss wrote:
I had the EXACT same problem tonight. Checked all connections, power,
solenoids, wiring. Finally saw the one suggestion to change the battery.
Sure enough, it was down to 3V. I replaced it, reprogrammed all my
stations, hit 'run' and everything works perfect. THE BATTERY!

jamesgangnc

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Oct 14, 2010, 8:42:02 AM10/14/10
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On Oct 14, 1:26 am, aeroboss_at_cox_dot_...@foo.com (Aeroboss) wrote:

> responding tohttp://www.homeownershub.com/maintenance/Sprinkler-controller-problem...Aeroboss wrote:
>
> I had the EXACT same problem tonight.  Checked all connections, power,
> solenoids, wiring.  Finally saw the one suggestion to change the battery.
> Sure enough, it was down to 3V.  I replaced it, reprogrammed all my
> stations, hit 'run' and everything works perfect.  THE BATTERY!

test

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Oct 14, 2010, 9:14:55 AM10/14/10
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Looks like a spamming spammer has resurrected a 5 year old thread.

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Oren

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>The Homeowners Hub site is not a help forum, it's an
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Smitty Two

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Oct 16, 2010, 12:45:09 PM10/16/10
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In article
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> Looks like a spamming spammer has resurrected a 5 year old thread.

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Anon

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Nov 20, 2013, 4:44:01 PM11/20/13
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replying to Tony Hwang, Anon wrote:
The cause of the problem on mine was a bad capacitor marked 'C4' on the
PCB. Replaced it with a new one of the same spec (220μF, 35v), and the
unit now works fine.

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Tony Hwang

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Nov 20, 2013, 8:15:24 PM11/20/13
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Hi,
A few years agon a batch of hi value lo voltage caps came out and
all kinda devices made during that period shared same problem.

Phyl Smith

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Sep 5, 2014, 2:44:02 PM9/5/14
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replying to Peabody, Phyl Smith wrote:
> waybackKILLSPAM44 wrote:
>
> My neightbor has a lawn sprinkler system using a Rain Dial
> controller. The controller won't turn on any of the five valves.
> I switch the controller to Run/Manual, swtich to a specific
> valve, put run time that valve and hit the Manual start button.
> Instead of turning on that valve, I get a flashing OFF. According
> to the manual this indicates the solenoid is shorted or there is
> some other electrical problem.



Problem for me occurred on an Irritrol KwikDial KD9-INT -- flickering
display + when turned to OFF, a flickering OFF on the display. Another
person in this forum replaced the big power supply capacitor on the
electronic board (in my case the board was labeled 102-2057 Rev B
22639561) which fixed the problem. Did the same thing on the KD9 -- i.e.
the C4 220uf/35v capacitor was replaced and the problem was fixed.

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Oren

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Sep 5, 2014, 3:36:59 PM9/5/14
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On Fri, 05 Sep 2014 18:44:02 +0000, Phyl Smith
<caedfaa9ed1216d60e...@example.com> wrote:

>Problem for me occurred on an Irritrol KwikDial KD9-INT -- flickering
>display + when turned to OFF, a flickering OFF on the display. Another
>person in this forum replaced the big power supply capacitor on the
>electronic board (in my case the board was labeled 102-2057 Rev B
>22639561) which fixed the problem. Did the same thing on the KD9 -- i.e.
>the C4 220uf/35v capacitor was replaced and the problem was fixed.
>

Did you try to unplug the power? A Power surge can temporarily corrupt
the EPROM on the unit.

Roll

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May 14, 2016, 10:44:05 AM5/14/16
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Yes with mine as soon as the battery was replaced it worked fine, thanks heaps
for your help


ShawnN

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Jul 9, 2016, 10:44:05 AM7/9/16
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replying to Aeroboss, ShawnN wrote:
Thank you! I had same problem and replaced the battery and now it works! What
a terrible design. It should still work if the battery is out. My battery
backup has never saved the program settings anyway. Everytime there is a loss
of power, I have to reset the programs.

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Cwmacphail

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Jul 13, 2017, 2:44:08 PM7/13/17
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replying to Aeroboss, Cwmacphail wrote:
Yes, replacing the battery fixed the problem, BUT ONLY TEMPORARILY. Something
is causing the fresh battery to drain every few weeks.

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bkindred

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Sep 4, 2017, 5:14:13 PM9/4/17
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replying to Peabody, bkindred wrote:
I had an issue where the controller wouldnt turn on any sprinklers and when
trying run them manually, it didnt work either. Replacing the 220uF, 35v
capacitor worked like a charm. I was able to find the cap at Frye's
Electronics.

bkindred

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Sep 4, 2017, 5:14:16 PM9/4/17
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replying to Anon, bkindred wrote:
This worked for me. I had an issue where the controller wouldnt turn on any

Cirlcek

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Sep 6, 2021, 2:31:27 PM9/6/21
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hey, same issue for me. What fix did you find?

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