Google Groups no longer supports new Usenet posts or subscriptions. Historical content remains viewable.
Dismiss

Can anyone explain Arrow T-series staples and guns?

4,166 views
Skip to first unread message

Home Guy

unread,
Feb 20, 2011, 5:43:46 PM2/20/11
to
A local hardware store was selling off a handful of odds and ends, and I
noticed a couple of Arrow staplers for $5. This is the all chrome,
heavy stapler. It looked like one I already had, but mine was rusty and
I'm always looking for it, so I figured this was too cheap to pass up.

So anyways the model number engraved in the stapler is T-25M, but the
single-sheet exploded parts view inside the packaging says it's a T25P
Gun Tacker.

The printing on the blister-pack packaging says I'm supposed to use T-25
staples.

It lists a bunch of other sizes that (I guess) are possible if you have
the right stapler:

T18 (3/16" - 5 mm)
T25 (1/4" - 6 mm)
T37 (5/16" - 8 mm)
T75 (1/2" - 12 mm)

I had been to another hardware store a week ago and picked up some T20
staples (for my other gun, which is the same model as this gun) and they
work fine in this T25 gun (and these T20 staples are made by Arrow), but
it's got me scratching my head wondering why the T20 size doesn't show
up in the above list.

The Txx naming system seems to be trade-marked by Arrow, but I'm
wondering what the hell it's supposed to mean, and what exactly is the
difference between T20 and T25.

It always pisses me off that they don't indicate the actual width (in
inches, mm, etc) with these staples. It's always according to this
strange Txx code.

And why is it that only Arrow seems to make staples for these guns?

John Grabowski

unread,
Feb 20, 2011, 5:48:35 PM2/20/11
to


*Those differences are the width of the staple for different size wires and
the appropriate model stapler. There are different lengths in each size.

http://www.arrowfastener.com/catalog/supplies/staples

Home Guy

unread,
Feb 20, 2011, 7:07:18 PM2/20/11
to
John Grabowski full-quoted:

> *Those differences are the width of the staple for different size
> wires and the appropriate model stapler. There are different
> lengths in each size.
>
> http://www.arrowfastener.com/catalog/supplies/staples

So why can T20 staples be loaded and used in a T25 gun?

Why does the package printing on a T25 gun not make any mention of the
existance of T20 staples?

John Grabowski

unread,
Feb 20, 2011, 7:32:24 PM2/20/11
to

*I don't know, but I bet tech support at Arrow knows. I'm guessing here,
but maybe it is because the T25 is a cable stapler and the T20 staple is not
made for cables. If you look closely at the packaging you will notice that
the T25 staples are round headed while the T20's are flat headed.

DT

unread,
Feb 21, 2011, 12:41:02 AM2/21/11
to
In article <4D619922...@Guy.com>, Ho...@Guy.com says...

>A local hardware store was selling off a handful of odds and ends, and
I
>noticed a couple of Arrow staplers for $5. This is the all chrome,
>heavy stapler. It looked like one I already had, but mine was rusty
and
>I'm always looking for it, so I figured this was too cheap to pass up.
>
>So anyways the model number engraved in the stapler is T-25M, but the
>single-sheet exploded parts view inside the packaging says it's a T25P
>Gun Tacker.


You didn't buy an ordinary stapler. You bought one dedicated to tacking
low voltage wiring with round top staples.

--
DT

Home Guy

unread,
Feb 21, 2011, 9:14:52 AM2/21/11
to
DT wrote:

> > So anyways the model number engraved in the stapler is T-25M, but
> > the single-sheet exploded parts view inside the packaging says
> > it's a T25P Gun Tacker.
>
> You didn't buy an ordinary stapler. You bought one dedicated to
> tacking low voltage wiring with round top staples.

Well, this is my second T25 stapler, and all I ever use in them are the
flat-top T20 staples.

I figure that if the staples fit properly in the feed guide, that's all
you need to worry about.

I loaded a rail of flat-topped T20 staples into my new T25 gun and drove
a few staples into some scrap hardwood. Worked fine - as I expected.

It's strange. Arrow seems to make guns with model numbers that match
the staples.

So they have T25 round-topped staples for T25 guns.

I don't see a T20 gun to match the T20 flat-topped staples.

They do sell a T2025 gun, which claims to use both T20 and T25 staples.

But like I said, the T25 gun seems to shoot T20 staples just fine.

sbus

unread,
Feb 7, 2017, 7:44:08 AM2/7/17
to
replying to John Grabowski, sbus wrote:
N ope. T25 has a round crown; T20 has a flat crown. The 'legs' of the staples
are 8mm apart in both cases; but for a round crown the length of the crown is
longer because it's a section of a circle and not a straight line. A stapler
with an 8mm guide will work for both T25 and T20 staples IF it has enough
vertical clearance to allow the round crowns...

--
for full context, visit https://www.homeownershub.com/maintenance/can-anyone-explain-arrow-t-series-staples-and-guns-673749-.htm


col...@yahoo.com

unread,
Jul 19, 2020, 4:44:15 PM7/19/20
to
I gave an Arrow ET3025HD 3 in 1 staple nail gun. Can I use T50 staples? I can’t find any T20 stalked anywhere local but can find T50.

Neil Kelly

unread,
Jul 19, 2020, 9:09:10 PM7/19/20
to
On 7/19/2020 4:44 PM, col...@yahoo.com wrote:
> I gave an Arrow ET3025HD 3 in 1 staple nail gun. Can I use T50 staples? I can’t find any T20 stalked anywhere local but can find T50.


Buy the staples from Amazon and you won't have to deal with the face diaper nazis at the big box store.


0 new messages