HOw to get GAS line to island stove?

[Jabir Patel]

Currently I have an electric stive installed in an island counter top in
my kitchen.

I would like to put a gas stove there but there is no gas line there.
What I do have is an 6 inch vent pipe which is installed in the
foundation. Could I use this as a conduit to also run the gas line?

Thanks

[The Building Inspectors, Inc.]

Not if it's still being used as a vent pipe.

Dan

"Jabir Patel" <ja...@nortelnetworks.com> wrote in message
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[Jabir Patel]

Is is possible to run another conduit to isolate the gas line and still
use the existing vent?

Jabir

[Rich]

Jabir Patel <ja...@nortelnetworks.com> wrote in message
news:393FF8EC...@nortelnetworks.com...
> Currently I have an electric stive installed in an island counter top in
> my kitchen.
>
> I would like to put a gas stove there but there is no gas line there.
> What I do have is an 6 inch vent pipe which is installed in the
> foundation. Could I use this as a conduit to also run the gas line?

In this State it is illegal to install your own gas lines.
It's also very dangerous. If you aren't sure what to
do, this isn't the kind of thing where you can "wing it".
Hire a professional.

Rich

[David Gilbert]

I had a similar situation when I purchased this 30 year old house last year.
Electric appliances but I DID have gas heat, so the gas supply was
available...only problem was the gas supply was on the other side of the
house. I ended up having to run an outside line (rigid) along the backside
of the house, entering between the floors with a flex-hose to run across the
floor joists and then up under the island stove top and also to a wall unit
for the oven. The plumber who did the work had to replace the rigid gas
line outside once to meet code, due to the length of the line (he had the
wrong size for the length, per code) It was a pain, but it is worth it to
switch over to gas. Code also required that a shutoff valve be located at
both units instead of where the line enters the house from the outside.
After seeing what this guy had to go through, I'd highly recommend hiring
someone who knows the code in your area and have him/her do the
work......might cost more but it would be a much safer operation.
David in Tennessee

Jabir Patel <ja...@nortelnetworks.com> wrote in message
news:393FF8EC...@nortelnetworks.com...
> Currently I have an electric stive installed in an island counter top in
> my kitchen.
>
> I would like to put a gas stove there but there is no gas line there.
> What I do have is an 6 inch vent pipe which is installed in the
> foundation. Could I use this as a conduit to also run the gas line?
>

> Thanks
>

[Jabir Patel]

I posted here to get some ideas on what can be done in my situation. I
do not intend on doing this myself. I want to know if others had a
similar problem/situation and what they did. I want to do it right but
at the same time I don't want to pay for unecessary work.

Thanks.

Rich wrote:
>
> Jabir Patel <ja...@nortelnetworks.com> wrote in message
> news:393FF8EC...@nortelnetworks.com...
> > Currently I have an electric stive installed in an island counter top in
> > my kitchen.
> >
> > I would like to put a gas stove there but there is no gas line there.
> > What I do have is an 6 inch vent pipe which is installed in the
> > foundation. Could I use this as a conduit to also run the gas line?
>

[Bennet K. Langlotz]

"Rich" <ti...@strato.net> wrote:

>In this State it is illegal to install your own gas lines.
>It's also very dangerous.

In this state, it is legal.
It's also very safe, if you have done a little reading.
--
Bennet K. Langlotz
ne...@langlotz.com

[Bob]

And the gas inspector assures that is true. Talk to yours if you have code
questions.

Bob

"Bennet K. Langlotz" <ne...@langlotz.com> wrote in message
news:394110b2....@news.aracnet.com...

[Richard Wiebe]

The building code (in some areas) permits use of a flexable gas line.
I'm NOT saying it is legal, but worth asking about. This is normally
used to connect the gas line to the stove - to allow it to be moved from
the wall.

Getting older (and wiser) - but - it beats the alternative!

[Speedy Jim]

Sprinkler valves are "pilot operated".
The diaphragm depends on line pressure to close
the valve.
I suspect that, when water is flowing, you don't have
sufficient pressure to operate the diaphragm.
If you can, tap into the supply line just ahead
of the valve and see what pressure you actually read
when water is flowing.

Jim

Chris wrote:
>
> I have a drip-irigation system that used to run off of
> a battery-powered timer-valve on the faucet. But, I decided to
> "upgrade" the system to a multi-station timer with underground valves.
>
> The valves have been temperamental from day 1, I had to set the large
> black know on top half-way to get them to open and shut from the
> controller.
>
> The problem is that sometimes, they do not shut off at all. they seem
> to shut off if another valve cycles after them, but the last in the
> series (and I have changed the sequence to check this) is prone to
> not shutting off, or just partially shutting off. The station will
> report it is off, but it is still running. If I shut off the water,
> then turn it back on (from the main meter to the house) the valve will
> usually (but not always) shut off.
>
> Does anyone have any ideas as to the cause of the problem?
>
> A few specs on the system;
>
> My water pressure is about 42 PSI in a half-inch line into the valves,
> expanding to 3/4 inch in the valve assembly. I recently added pressure
> regulators (25 psi) just past the valves to reduce pressure into the
> system (I was blowing feeder lines). This had no effect on the valve
> problem.
>
> The controller is a weathermaster 57004 4-station.
> the valves are Rainjet Rj-711
> The station has a 28 watt transformer, and has 25' of sprinkler
> control cable between it and the valves. If the valves aren't closing,
> and I try to manually cycle them on and off from the controller, it
> almost never works until I go out and adjust the large black "manual
> control" knobs on the valves.
>
> Any help, advice, or comments would be sincerely appreciated.
> Chris

[RamblinOn]

I'm not a valve maven, just a wife who has helped hubby dig up a lot of
irrigation stuff. Our valves weren't behaving properly, and it turned out
there was dirt in the solenoid. That's all I know. I found a RainBird
website (don't know if that is your brand), as I have lots of irrigation
stuff bookmarked. This troubleshooting site might help. Hope so.

http://www.rainbird.com/rbturf/products/valves/restrouble.htm#1

Some of our valves were completely buried, and we pulled up cable to
locate them. Still have one missing, but it works.

[Speedy Jim]

Chris wrote:

>
> On Sat, 24 Jun 2000 20:20:01 GMT, Speedy Jim <vo...@nls.net> wrote:
>
> >Sprinkler valves are "pilot operated".
> >The diaphragm depends on line pressure to close
> >the valve.
> >I suspect that, when water is flowing, you don't have
> >sufficient pressure to operate the diaphragm.
> >If you can, tap into the supply line just ahead
> >of the valve and see what pressure you actually read
> >when water is flowing.
>

> OK, just tried it... When the valve first opens, pressure drops
> to about 10 PSI, but once the line fills up, (less than a miniute)
> it's up to 35-40 again. Should that be ok?
>
> It's odd that it's always the last valve in the sequence to stick
> open.
>
> BTW, I did double-check to make sure I hadn't installed them
> backwards.
>
> Thanks!
> Chris

Yes, that should be plenty of pressure. Got me stumped too!
Jim

[Craig]

It sounds like you don't have enough flow in the last valve to turn
off. You probably need to add more emiters (sp) or have a valve to
higher flow sprinklers come on last.

Craig

[TakeThisOut]

Wouldn't back pressure in the zone prevent the valve from closing? Try
reconfiguring the sequence so that the last zone in the cycle is the one which
uses the most water.
.

.
.

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[John Briggs]

Sprinkler valves aren't designed to work with pressure on *both* sides
of the valve.

John

[Wayne Dohnal]

I see you have your problem fixed, so I posting this just to spread
out the information. I had a valve this year that wouldn't close
fully. The problem turned out to be that the pin that guides the
center of the diaphram had rusted, preventing free movement of the
diaphram. I cleaned up the pin, and it now works fine.

Wayne Dohnal

On Mon, 26 Jun 2000 14:19:37 -0700, Chris
<time...@getridofthistoreply.aol.com> wrote:

>I tried totally disconecting one line, so I had full flow and no
>backpressure, and also swapping wiring so the sequence was different,
>but all valves had the same problem.
>
>I replaced the programable controler, and now, so far, everything
>seems to be working fine, all valves seem to operate as they should.
>
>I'd like to thank everyone who offered suggestions, as trying those.,
>plus reading the troubleshooting link on person sent, made me suspect
>the controler.
>
>Thanks very much to everyone for helping me solve this
>problem. I really appreciate it.
>
>Chris
>

[63ma...@gmail.com]

On Thursday, June 8, 2000 at 2:00:00 AM UTC-5, The Building Inspectors, Inc. wrote:
> Not if it's still being used as a vent pipe.
>
> Dan

> What if you install a vent hood above and are not using the downdraft/conduit as a vent? Could it be used to run a gas line to the island?

> "Jabir Patel" <ja...@nortelnetworks.com> wrote in message
> news:393FF8EC...@nortelnetworks.com...
> > Currently I have an electric stive installed in an island counter top in
> > my kitchen.
> >
> > I would like to put a gas stove there but there is no gas line there.
> > What I do have is an 6 inch vent pipe which is installed in the
> > foundation. Could I use this as a conduit to also run the gas line?
> >

> > Thanks

[trader_4]

Check this out:

http://www.homeownersnetwork.com/booktopic/gas-pipe-installation-protection/

Not clear where they pulled it from, but it sounds reasonable. You could
run a PVC conduit through the vent pipe and run the gas line inside the
PVC as long as you meet the other reqts. But what matters are the
local codes. In most places this would need
a permit and the code dept will usually answer a questions like that.