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dadiOH

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Sep 22, 2014, 10:06:21 AM9/22/14
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I just replaced my well pressure switch. Again. Ants had causes arcing
and burned up the contacts.

I DAGS for "ant proof pressure switch" but no useful results. Anyone know
of one?

I did find suggestions to put moth balls inside the switch...does anyone
have first hand knowledge of how effective that is at keeping ants out?

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ChairMan

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Sep 22, 2014, 10:49:28 AM9/22/14
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dadiOH <dad...@invalid.com> wrote:
> I just replaced my well pressure switch. Again. Ants had
> causes
> arcing and burned up the contacts.
>
> I DAGS for "ant proof pressure switch" but no useful
> results. Anyone
> know of one?
>
> I did find suggestions to put moth balls inside the
> switch...does
> anyone have first hand knowledge of how effective that is
> at keeping
> ants out?

I don't know about moth balls(they're too small to see) but
you can use DE.
Cover the switch and dust inside with it


Unquestionably Confused

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Sep 22, 2014, 10:51:23 AM9/22/14
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On 9/22/2014 9:11 AM, gfre...@aol.com wrote:
> On Mon, 22 Sep 2014 10:06:21 -0400, "dadiOH" <dad...@invalid.com>
> wrote:
>
>> I just replaced my well pressure switch. Again. Ants had causes arcing
>> and burned up the contacts.
>>
>> I DAGS for "ant proof pressure switch" but no useful results. Anyone know
>> of one?
>>
>> I did find suggestions to put moth balls inside the switch...does anyone
>> have first hand knowledge of how effective that is at keeping ants out?
>
> The best solution is to get your pump (switch) up off the ground or
> move the switch inside. I built an elevated pump house for my pump and
> made all of those problems go away,
>

Thinking about the problem, I'm having difficulty finding a clearly
downside to wrapping the switch with Glad Wrap or Saran Wrap.

Maybe even smearing some Wasp Spray on the outside of the box? Have you
ever noticed that if you hit an area with wasp/hornet spray (like a roof
vent on the garage) the little buggers NEVER come back? Had a huge
colony of them under one of the vents. Hit it with just a little bit of
the spray from inside the garage about ten years back. They have never
returned.

dpb

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Sep 22, 2014, 2:42:22 PM9/22/14
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On 09/22/2014 9:51 AM, Unquestionably Confused wrote:
...

> ... Have you
> ever noticed that if you hit an area with wasp/hornet spray (like a roof
> vent on the garage) the little buggers NEVER come back? ...

Yours must be the "give it up easily" variety... :)

The yellow jacket wasps here are back rebuilding often within a few days
at the outside in their mostest-favoritest places (under the north of
the two garages door in the south end corner is a particularly favorite
spot it seems). I've taken care of it at least four times this year alone.

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nestork

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Sep 22, 2014, 3:43:48 PM9/22/14
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I don't know about an "ant proof" pressure switch, but what about simply
wrapping your entire pressure switch with fiberglass window screen
material so the ants can't get into it?

Another option might be to treat your pressure switch the same way they
treat Elm trees to protect them against Dutch Elm Disease in Winnipeg.
Dutch Elm disease is a disease that infects Elm trees and it's spread by
a small beetle that lives in the ground, but climbs up the bark of an
Elm tree to lay it's eggs in the soft tissue (leaves and small stems) of
Elm trees. The trick to eradicating the disease is to stop those
beatles from climbing up the trunk of the tree.

To do that, they wrap the tree trunk with fiberglass insulation with the
aluminum radiant reflective material on the back of the insulation so
that the fiberglass is against the rough bark and the aluminum radiant
reflective backing is facing outward. Then they smear a product called
"Tanglefoot" all over that aluminum radiant reflective material.
Tanglefoot is a really sticky goo that never dries up. The beetles that
spread Dutch Elm disease can't crawl through the fiberglass so they try
to crawl over the barrier and end up with their legs helplessly stuck in
the Tanglefoot. The crows then land on the bark of the trees and eat
the still alive beetles out of the Tanglefoot. Not only does that
prevent the beetle from laying it's eggs, it greatly reduces the number
of beetles that are infecting Elm trees here in Winnipeg.

I'm thinking you could do a similar thing to make your pressure switch
inaccessible to ants.




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Oren

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Sep 22, 2014, 4:55:29 PM9/22/14
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On Mon, 22 Sep 2014 10:06:21 -0400, "dadiOH" <dad...@invalid.com>
wrote:

>I just replaced my well pressure switch. Again. Ants had causes arcing
>and burned up the contacts.
>
>I DAGS for "ant proof pressure switch" but no useful results. Anyone know
>of one?
>
>I did find suggestions to put moth balls inside the switch...does anyone
>have first hand knowledge of how effective that is at keeping ants out?

No experience, but I'd look at using Permatex, in the pliable
non-hardening formula to seal the cover on the switch. (gasket sealer)

You could then remove the box cover later using a razor knife to score
the Permatex.

dpb

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Sep 22, 2014, 6:23:25 PM9/22/14
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On 09/22/2014 2:43 PM, nestork wrote:
...

> Another option might be to treat your pressure switch the same way they
> treat Elm trees to protect them against Dutch Elm Disease in Winnipeg.
...
> To do that, they wrap the tree trunk with fiberglass insulation with the
> aluminum radiant reflective material on the back of the insulation so
> that the fiberglass is against the rough bark and the aluminum radiant
> reflective backing is facing outward. Then they smear a product called
> "Tanglefoot" all over that aluminum radiant reflective material.
...

A big fly strip, iow. Hadn't heard of that ploy; sounds at least promising.

You have data on how wide the insulation strip has to be to be effective
and anything on the "goo"? I'd be willing to try and see what happens.
I'm afraid that out here the problem will be that the goo gets so much
sand/dirt from the interminable KS wind it'll just pave the goo and
they'll have a road anyway, but wouldn't know how bad that would be
until tried...

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dadiOH

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Sep 22, 2014, 7:51:05 PM9/22/14
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"dpb" <no...@non.net> wrote in message news:lvq7hh$3t1$1...@dont-email.me
I remember that stuff on elm trees in KCK in the early 40s. It was a band
maybe 2 1/2 + 3" wide, dark brown, applied directly to the trunk about
5'-6' up. It was always sticky but less so with time, never saw it
applied.

micky

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Sep 22, 2014, 9:14:05 PM9/22/14
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On Mon, 22 Sep 2014 10:06:21 -0400, "dadiOH" <dad...@invalid.com> wrote:

>I just replaced my well pressure switch. Again. Ants had causes arcing
>and burned up the contacts.
>
>I DAGS for "ant proof pressure switch" but no useful results. Anyone know
>of one?
>
>I did find suggestions to put moth balls inside the switch...does anyone
>have first hand knowledge of how effective that is at keeping ants out?

I read that moth balls inside the holes dug by carpenter bees is good,
but then the holes are sealed with something.

With access to air, moth balls will disappear in ?? six months?

Other than that, I can't help.

But I do want to point out that you're worried about your pump, but no
concern for the ants that are dying. As local president of the ASPCA,
American Society for Prevention of Cruelty to Ants, I must object.

You should give them 30 days notice by certified mail, and then have the
sheriff remove them .

Unquestionably Confused

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Sep 22, 2014, 9:19:19 PM9/22/14
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On 9/22/2014 1:42 PM, dpb wrote:
> On 09/22/2014 9:51 AM, Unquestionably Confused wrote:
> ...
>
>> ... Have you
>> ever noticed that if you hit an area with wasp/hornet spray (like a roof
>> vent on the garage) the little buggers NEVER come back? ...
>
> Yours must be the "give it up easily" variety... :)

Just lucky, I guess. Never really gave it a thought until I zapped them
in these particular locations. Never had a problem with the original
vents and then when I had the garage reroofed they put in new vents.
They make for easy observation and the only reason I noticed the
permanence of the "cure" was that I kept watching for them to return and
start dropping their crap on the Corvette parked below!<g>


Stormin Mormon

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Sep 23, 2014, 7:57:22 AM9/23/14
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On 9/22/2014 9:14 PM, micky wrote:
> But I do want to point out that you're worried about your pump, but no
> concern for the ants that are dying. As local president of the ASPCA,
> American Society for Prevention of Cruelty to Ants, I must object.
>
> You should give them 30 days notice by certified mail, and then have the
> sheriff remove them .
>

If you don't want to deal with government,
there is always the Society for Preservation
of Anthills Greater Homes Everywhere Termites
Too International. And their sister organization
Mothers Everywhere All Together Behind Ants
Living Limited Systems.

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RobertMacy

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Sep 23, 2014, 10:00:35 AM9/23/14
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On Tue, 23 Sep 2014 04:57:22 -0700, Stormin Mormon <cayo...@hotmail.com>
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LOL!

Stormin Mormon

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Sep 23, 2014, 10:06:03 AM9/23/14
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Hoping someone would run out the acronym.

Phil Kangas

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Sep 23, 2014, 10:37:45 AM9/23/14
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"Stormin Mormon"
>>>
>>> If you don't want to deal with government,
>>> there is always the Society for Preservation
>>> of Anthills Greater Homes Everywhere Termites
>>> Too International. And their sister
>>> organization
>>> Mothers Everywhere All Together Behind Ants
>>> Living Limited Systems.
>>
>> LOL!
>
> Hoping someone would run out the acronym.

SPAGHETTI and MEATBALLS , eih?



dfir...@gmail.com

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Jul 16, 2015, 12:45:42 PM7/16/15
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I know it's a year later if I saw the date right. Are the ants in question rasberry crazy ants, or fire ants.

rasberry crazy ants are a pain. They invaded Houstons NASA grounds over the last few years.

They take out my well 3 times a year. Well I tries silicon last year. It worked for a long time but the problem is then moisture builds up over time and takes out the points. lol I did keep my well going for a year this time. So I will deal with once a year changing of points the 3 times a year.

Seal the bottom holes of the switch box. Seal the hole between the switch box and the pump but not to much or you will mess with the stuff in the pump. You just want to block the hole. Seal around the bottom edge with silicon on the switch box. Put the cap on and tighten down. Put silicon where your wires come into the box on the side. Do not get any silicon on the points during the sealing. Good luck!!!!!

If it's the same ants, this problem has been seen as far north of Dallas.

Good luck. I'm still looking for a better fix to the problem.
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dfir...@gmail.com

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Jul 16, 2015, 1:44:47 PM7/16/15
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I'll look at that option. Also need to look at getting power above ground. They fallow my pipe that holds the wire to the switch.

Sounds like a plan.

Thanks
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dpb

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Jul 16, 2015, 3:51:23 PM7/16/15
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On 07/16/2015 11:45 AM, dfir...@gmail.com wrote:
> ... Are the ants in question rasberry crazy ants, or fire ants.
...

We've not yet seen the crazy ants but I'd try just sprinkling some Amdro
ant bait in the box and see if that doesn't send 'em on their way.

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dfir...@gmail.com

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Jul 16, 2015, 4:15:07 PM7/16/15
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I miss the fire ants too. Crazy ants drove them out. I haven't seen a fire ant in 4 years. I could handle them. This is a whole new beast of ant.

I got some projects to try out too now.

Thank you all for some input.




On Thursday, July 16, 2015 at 3:02:37 PM UTC-5, gfre...@aol.com wrote:
> I don't know about other places but Amdro stopped working here 20
> years ago. They just will not eat it.
> It was really aimed at fire ants anyway. Some other types of ants
> would eat it but not for long. Their successors figured out it wasn't
> "food".
>
> We have been pretty successful knocking down fire ants but the ones
> that took their place are harder to kill and far more invasive. I miss
> the fire ants.

dpb

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Jul 16, 2015, 4:19:31 PM7/16/15
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On 07/16/2015 3:02 PM, gfre...@aol.com wrote:
> On Thu, 16 Jul 2015 14:51:18 -0500, dpb<no...@non.net> wrote:
...
>> We've not yet seen the crazy ants but I'd try just sprinkling some Amdro
>> ant bait in the box and see if that doesn't send 'em on their way.
>
> I don't know about other places but Amdro stopped working here 20
> years ago. They just will not eat it.
> It was really aimed at fire ants anyway. Some other types of ants
> would eat it but not for long. Their successors figured out it wasn't
> "food".
>
> We have been pretty successful knocking down fire ants but the ones
> that took their place are harder to kill and far more invasive. I miss
> the fire ants.

I've never used it indiscriminately, but it has yet to fail on anything
I've tried it on...

Don't figure it can hurt...may not work but afaik they're pretty-much
non-food-source specific (meaning both protein and sugars are fair game)
so don't see why it shouldn't...

Anyway, what's the loss in trying it or something similar?

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Uncle Monster

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Jul 16, 2015, 4:40:18 PM7/16/15
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I started the local chapter of "PETI", People for the Ethical Treatment of Insects. Our organization is infesting the whole country. ^_^

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Uncle Monster

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Jul 16, 2015, 5:52:31 PM7/16/15
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On Thursday, July 16, 2015 at 4:32:21 PM UTC-5, dfir...@gmail.com wrote:
> Really monster!!!!!! LMAO. You have no clue on this ant. I could kill a 1000 of them today and in 2 weeks have 10,000 more. The ant isn't from our country. It's an illegal imanant. lol
>
>
Careful there pal, we at PETI will get you. You may wake up one morning with ants in your pants. ^_^

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dfir...@gmail.com

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Jul 16, 2015, 6:05:22 PM7/16/15
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I've been doing the same with spectacide. About 10 to 20 feet around the house. 3 foot up the house sides too. Once I got the area done I hit the well area with a soap water solution.

I did sugar and boric mix. It worked for a while. Guess I made a weak batch. They came back. I can't figure out what they will eat now. I'm watch tho too.

As much as they like the well points!!!! I need a giant ant zapper. lol

On Thursday, July 16, 2015 at 4:24:35 PM UTC-5, gfre...@aol.com wrote:
> On Thu, 16 Jul 2015 13:15:03 -0700 (PDT), dfir...@gmail.com wrote:
>
> >
> >I miss the fire ants too. Crazy ants drove them out. I haven't seen a fire ant in 4 years. I could handle them. This is a whole new beast of ant.
> >
> >I got some projects to try out too now.
> >
> >Thank you all for some input.
> >
> The trick with ants is still to use a bait. The problem is figuring
> out what they are eating. I watch them and when I figure out their
> favorite food, I make bait out of it (12 parts food, 1 part boric
> acid.)
> That will wipe out that colony but the one that comes back will not
> usually eat that bait anymore.
> These days, I seen an ant walking around now and then but they are not
> in anything I can see. I have taught them not to eat sugar, (all
> types), grease, meat, dog food, starches or eggs.
> They still eat dead bugs and I let them.
> Nests near the house get dosed with that Spectacide stuff and I
> maintain a 15 foot ring around the house with the "max" lawn granules.
> That is really more to hold back the palmetto bugs tho.

dfir...@gmail.com

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Jul 16, 2015, 6:15:03 PM7/16/15
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LMAO. This ant!!!! it's already happened. They are a pain. They took out my main power switch one year too.

I will be happy to drop a load of ants to your property any time you wish. lol Your going to love this ant. I will be moving north in 2 years. Can't wait to leave them here. LOL

I think they cost me about 300 to 500 a year if I don't keep them under control. Keeping them under control cast 50.00 a year.

dadiOH

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Jul 17, 2015, 6:12:36 AM7/17/15
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gfre...@aol.com wrote:
> On Thu, 16 Jul 2015 14:51:18 -0500, dpb <no...@non.net> wrote:
>
> I don't know about other places but Amdro stopped working here 20
> years ago. They just will not eat it.
> It was really aimed at fire ants anyway. Some other types of ants
> would eat it but not for long. Their successors figured out it wasn't
> "food".
>
> We have been pretty successful knocking down fire ants but the ones
> that took their place are harder to kill and far more invasive. I miss
> the fire ants.

I have a few 10s of millions, all free, you pay shipping :)


rbowman

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Jul 17, 2015, 9:57:56 AM7/17/15
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On 07/17/2015 04:12 AM, dadiOH wrote:
> I have a few 10s of millions, all free, you pay shipping:)

I'm just thankful for all the things we don't have around here: fire
ants, crazy ants, armadillos, Texans, ....

dpb

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Jul 17, 2015, 10:05:04 AM7/17/15
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On 07/17/2015 5:12 AM, dadiOH wrote:
...

> I have a few 10s of millions, all free, you pay shipping :)

fire ants in OH????

We don't even have the real ones here in SW KS yet (thank
goodness)...large red ants, yes, but not the gen-u-wine fire variety.

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Muggles

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Jul 17, 2015, 10:31:18 AM7/17/15
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I see a bug in the house and I kill it or feed it to my fish. If it's
small enough I'll feed it to my venus fly trap. :) It caught a flying
insect all by itself recently, so it's earning its spot in the window. :)

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Muggles

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Jul 17, 2015, 10:38:47 AM7/17/15
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Have you tried a product called Simple Green? It kills ants practically
instantly, at least the ones I've used it on thus far.

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Stormin Mormon

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Jul 17, 2015, 12:57:23 PM7/17/15
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On 7/17/2015 12:33 PM, gfre...@aol.com wrote:
> On Fri, 17 Jul 2015 09:38:44 -0500, Muggles <x...@pdq.invalid> wrote:
>
>> Have you tried a product called Simple Green? It kills ants practically
>> instantly, at least the ones I've used it on thus far.
>
> Killing individual ants may make you feel good but it doesn't do much
> to control the ant population.
>

Need to have them spayed and neutered, and return
to the wild.

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Muggles

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Jul 17, 2015, 3:39:11 PM7/17/15
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On 7/17/2015 11:57 AM, Stormin Mormon wrote:
> On 7/17/2015 12:33 PM, gfre...@aol.com wrote:
>> On Fri, 17 Jul 2015 09:38:44 -0500, Muggles <x...@pdq.invalid> wrote:
>>
>>> Have you tried a product called Simple Green? It kills ants practically
>>> instantly, at least the ones I've used it on thus far.
>>
>> Killing individual ants may make you feel good but it doesn't do much
>> to control the ant population.
>>
>
> Need to have them spayed and neutered, and return
> to the wild.
>

I usually use that spray when they are marching in long lines moving
their nests. A lot of ants are out and I can also see where they are
coming from and going, to I douse both nests with the Simple Green, too.

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dadiOH

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Jul 17, 2015, 8:11:15 PM7/17/15
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The last time I was in Ohio was 1943. I was 10 and had the measels.


Uncle Monster

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Jul 17, 2015, 9:00:50 PM7/17/15
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OMG! U R old. ^_^

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rbowman

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Jul 17, 2015, 11:00:11 PM7/17/15
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On 07/17/2015 01:39 PM, Muggles wrote:
> I usually use that spray when they are marching in long lines moving
> their nests. A lot of ants are out and I can also see where they are
> coming from and going, to I douse both nests with the Simple Green, too.
>

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IGJ2jMZ-gaI

I like that technique. You get an unique object d'art and I've got the
feeling that ants won't be using the nest again.

haikujourney

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Jul 28, 2018, 11:14:05 AM7/28/18
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replying to dadiOH, haikujourney wrote:
I have had the problem for years and the answer is not an ant proof pressure
switch but to ant-proof your pressure switch.

If you have vaseline you're set to go. Vaseline coat the wires right at the
opening where they go into the switch box, around the opening, anywhere an ant
can get into the box. put a coat inside the box around openings.

Ants will not walk across Vaseline ~ petroleum jelly. This will last an
entire year and even longer.

Vaseline has more than one use...

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