re-use plastic wrapping straps after cutting them off

[RonTheGuy]

You buy containers wrapped in those 5 foot long half inch wide plastic
wrapping straps and you cut off the straps with scissors.

Then you throw away the straps because you can't reheat them to seal them
for something else.

Or can you?

Is there anything we already have at home that will heat those straps
together when they're pulled tightly around another box?

Do any of you re-use those tightly wrapped plastic packing straps for
anything?
--

Ron, the humblest guy in town.

[hub...@ccanoemail.ca]

On Sun, 30 Jan 2022 07:34:44 -0800, RonTheGuy <r...@null.invalid>
wrote:

Almost first hit on a google search for "plastic binding + strap" :

https://www.google.ca/search?as_q=strap&as_epq=plastic+binding&as_oq=&as_eq=&as_nlo=&as_nhi=&lr=&cr=&as_qdr=all&as_sitesearch=&as_occt=any&safe=images&as_filetype=&tbs=#kpvalbx=_o7H2YdyaLIel_QaEjbyoBg45

John T.

[micky]

In alt.home.repair, on Sun, 30 Jan 2022 07:34:44 -0800, RonTheGuy

I save all that stuff. If you mean platic "ties", I learned early to
cut them off at the right spot so they were still almost as long as when
new.

[danny burstein]

In <7ckdvg1a1hnp2j2bj...@4ax.com> micky <NONONO...@fmguy.com> writes:

>In alt.home.repair, on Sun, 30 Jan 2022 07:34:44 -0800, RonTheGuy
><r...@null.invalid> wrote:

>>You buy containers wrapped in those 5 foot long half inch wide plastic
>>wrapping straps and you cut off the straps with scissors.
>>
>>Then you throw away the straps because you can't reheat them to seal them
>>for something else.

[snip]

I haven't seen one in over a decade, partially because they're almost
never used anymore, and partly 'cuz I'm not in that type of work
these days, but we _loved_ the similar metal straps...

Those were just the right type of steel and thickness
to cut into "slim jims" for opening many locked cars...


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[Marilyn Manson]

On Sunday, January 30, 2022 at 12:58:38 PM UTC-5, micky wrote:
> In alt.home.repair, on Sun, 30 Jan 2022 07:34:44 -0800, RonTheGuy
> <r...@null.invalid> wrote:
>
> >You buy containers wrapped in those 5 foot long half inch wide plastic
> >wrapping straps and you cut off the straps with scissors.
> >
> >Then you throw away the straps because you can't reheat them to seal them
> >for something else.
> >
> >Or can you?
> >
> >Is there anything we already have at home that will heat those straps
> >together when they're pulled tightly around another box?
> >
> >Do any of you re-use those tightly wrapped plastic packing straps for
> >anything?
> I save all that stuff. If you mean platic "ties",

He means this type of strapping:

https://www.amazon.com/Strapworks-Heavyweight-Polypropylene-Webbing-Strapping/dp/B01KTVEHFI

> I learned early to cut them off at the right spot so they were
> still almost as long as when new.

And then what do you do with them?

[Rod Speed]

Used them in his S&M sessions. He posted the videos on youtube, the bugger.

[Peeler]

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[micky]

In alt.home.repair, on Sun, 30 Jan 2022 13:05:59 -0800 (PST), Marilyn

Manson <comawhit...@gmail.com> wrote:

>On Sunday, January 30, 2022 at 12:58:38 PM UTC-5, micky wrote:
>> In alt.home.repair, on Sun, 30 Jan 2022 07:34:44 -0800, RonTheGuy
>> <r...@null.invalid> wrote:
>>
>> >You buy containers wrapped in those 5 foot long half inch wide plastic
>> >wrapping straps and you cut off the straps with scissors.
>> >
>> >Then you throw away the straps because you can't reheat them to seal them
>> >for something else.
>> >
>> >Or can you?
>> >
>> >Is there anything we already have at home that will heat those straps
>> >together when they're pulled tightly around another box?
>> >
>> >Do any of you re-use those tightly wrapped plastic packing straps for
>> >anything?
>> I save all that stuff. If you mean platic "ties",
>
>He means this type of strapping:
>
>https://www.amazon.com/Strapworks-Heavyweight-Polypropylene-Webbing-Strapping/dp/B01KTVEHFI

Oh. I don't think I've seen this exact thing. If he didn't mean one
of those nylon ratchety wire ties,

https://www.amazon.com/Multi-Purpose-Self-Locking-Tie-Wraps-Cable-Tie-Strength/dp/B0793BQZJW/ref=sr_1_1_sspa

I misunderstood.

I later thought he meant the ones that take a metal clamp. But the ones
in the link are easy to sew, and flexible, not stiff. They sound great.

>
>> I learned early to cut them off at the right spot so they were
>> still almost as long as when new.
>
>And then what do you do with them?

I save them! Every once in a while I use one. I used one to make a
handle for a car battery charger that was mising one, and it broke after
several years, so I'll get to use another. One I used to snake a wire
for the vanity mirror light (when I got new sunvisors) through the top
rail of the windshield. That worked great. I try to save a little of
everything and late at night, I usually have whatever I need.

[Dean Hoffman]

These things would let you reuse the straps.
<https://www.amazon.com/Buckles-Straps-Set-inch-Adjustable/dp/B08ZSW1V29/ref=sxin_14_pa_sp_search_thematic_sspa?cv_ct_cx=plastic+hooks+for+straps&keywords=plastic+hooks+for+straps&pd_rd_i=B08ZSW1V29&pd_rd_r=95da59ad-7589-4680-8932-5602806fee7c&pd_rd_w=s21Vr&pd_rd_wg=3152s&pf_rd_p=4ad71b32-b810-4124-8735-d02a39478d0c&pf_rd_r=4HGZP1MDQDNTS6RH3T1M&qid=1643585764&sr=1-3-a73d1c8c-2fd2-4f19-aa41-2df022bcb241-spons&psc=1&spLa=ZW5jcnlwdGVkUXVhbGlmaWVyPUExR1FWNTc1OU5ERlMwJmVuY3J5cHRlZElkPUEwMDA3MDE2MllLQzMzUU0xQjJUSSZlbmNyeXB0ZWRBZElkPUEwNDk3MzY4SzU4Qkg4ODlROEVHJndpZGdldE5hbWU9c3Bfc2VhcmNoX3RoZW1hdGljJmFjdGlvbj1jbGlja1JlZGlyZWN0JmRvTm90TG9nQ2xpY2s9dHJ1ZQ==>
OR
<https://tinyurl.com/b7z4v9as>
These work too.
<https://www.amazon.com/Plastic-Ladder-Buckles-Backpack-Webbing/dp/B075ZQH9LS/ref=sr_1_7?crid=3C4PUKCYWB3HV&keywords=fastener+for+plastic+strap&qid=1643586482&sprefix=fastener+for+plastic+strap%2Caps%2C138&sr=8-7>
OR
<http://preview.alturl.com/gzkhy>

[Frank]

This video may give hints:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ODEarnHRZPQ

Probably not enough usage for you to buy the tools but maybe if you
could buy the clips and use pliers to crimp it might be worth while.

I have seen these straps made and they are stretched and oriented like
man made fibers to increase strength and stiffness. Heat sealing would
probably disorient the plastic and weaken it.

[Marilyn Manson]

Why go through the trouble of creating a tinyurl when shortening the original link is easier? Retains the name of the item too.

https://www.amazon.com/Buckles-Straps-Set-inch-Adjustable/dp/B08ZSW1V29

https://www.amazon.com/Plastic-Ladder-Buckles-Backpack-Webbing/dp/B075ZQH9LS

Anything after the ASIN (Amazon Standard Identification Number) isn't needed when sharing an Amazon link.

[Marilyn Manson]

And yet it's done all the time. I'll wager that there is more heat sealed plastic
strapping than mechanically clipped. At least that's my experience and has been
for many years.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CjLT1lS7hkU

One step operation, no extra parts or tools needed and you get a flatter end product.

[Marilyn Manson]

On Sunday, January 30, 2022 at 10:35:07 AM UTC-5, RonTheGuy wrote:
> You buy containers wrapped in those 5 foot long half inch wide plastic
> wrapping straps and you cut off the straps with scissors.
>

No scissors required.

1 - Find the seam
2 - Look underneath for the unsecured tab
3 - Grasp the tab and pull it away from the strap

https://youtu.be/oCQS19607yk

[Bob F]

That's a big advantage of my 1300 sq. foot garage/shop. Too bad my van
can't get in there.

[Bob F]

I doubt either would work. The thin fairly hard, stiff, strap would
probably just slip through those plastic buckles.

[Ed Pawlowski]

On 1/31/2022 12:27 AM, Bob F wrote:

>> <https://tinyurl.com/b7z4v9as>
>>   These work too.
>> <https://www.amazon.com/Plastic-Ladder-Buckles-Backpack-Webbing/dp/B075ZQH9LS/ref=sr_1_7?crid=3C4PUKCYWB3HV&keywords=fastener+for+plastic+strap&qid=1643586482&sprefix=fastener+for+plastic+strap%2Caps%2C138&sr=8-7>
>>
>> OR
>> <http://preview.alturl.com/gzkhy>
>
> I doubt either would work. The thin fairly hard, stiff, strap would
> probably just slip through those plastic buckles.
>

Don't tell my guys in shipping. Used similar at work thousands of times.

[Bob F]

I stand corrected, in that case.

[hub...@ccanoemail.ca]

On Sun, 30 Jan 2022 10:47:06 -0500, hub...@ccanoemail.ca wrote:

>On Sun, 30 Jan 2022 07:34:44 -0800, RonTheGuy <r...@null.invalid>
>wrote:
>
>>You buy containers wrapped in those 5 foot long half inch wide plastic
>>wrapping straps and you cut off the straps with scissors.
>>Then you throw away the straps because you can't reheat them to seal them
>>for something else.
>>Or can you?
>>Is there anything we already have at home that will heat those straps
>>together when they're pulled tightly around another box?
>>Do any of you re-use those tightly wrapped plastic packing straps for
>>anything?
>
>
>Almost first hit on a google search for "plastic binding + strap" :

> snipped bad link
> John T.


Doh ! I wondered why folks were posting so many other links
after mine - mine only linked to the google search instead of the
actual video clip ...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wwdwTVGsTXg

The little metal clips in this video would seem to be an
effective and cheap way to re-use the strapping ?
John T.

[Marilyn Manson]

On Sunday, January 30, 2022 at 10:35:07 AM UTC-5, RonTheGuy wrote:

> You buy containers wrapped in those 5 foot long half inch wide plastic
> wrapping straps and you cut off the straps with scissors.
>
> Then you throw away the straps because you can't reheat them to seal them
> for something else.
>
> Or can you?

Here you go...

https://www.amazon.com/SDRTOP-Pneumatic-Strapping-Automatic-Packaging/dp/B09BVC12ND

>
> Is there anything we already have at home that will heat those straps
> together when they're pulled tightly around another box?

Not that I know of.

>
> Do any of you re-use those tightly wrapped plastic packing straps for
> anything?
> --

Not me.

[Marilyn Manson]

Assuming you don't need to pull them tight...or have another way to do that
and also crimp the clip. Are the dedicated tools that are shown required?
Maybe not, but they were designed with those purposes in mind.

Here's one for $180...no clue if it's any good or not.

https://www.amazon.com/SDRTOP-Pneumatic-Strapping-Automatic-Packaging/dp/B09BVC12ND

One question that I haven't seen asked yet:

What is the OP doing that he wants/needs to reuse the straps?
Shipping stuff? Storing stuff? Just curious.

I've received packages that have been wrapped with the straps.
Not sure I've ever had a need to reuse them, especially since they have
been cut to a specific length. Any further use could only be with a
shorter length (since they need to be overlapped to secure) or would
require more than one clip to attach multiple pieces together. Of course,
using the tool above would make it easier to link multiple pieces. I guess
if you are reusing them often enough, $180 might be worth it.

[Marilyn Manson]

On Sunday, January 30, 2022 at 6:27:21 PM UTC-5, micky wrote:
> In alt.home.repair, on Sun, 30 Jan 2022 13:05:59 -0800 (PST), Marilyn
> Manson <comawhit...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >On Sunday, January 30, 2022 at 12:58:38 PM UTC-5, micky wrote:
> >> In alt.home.repair, on Sun, 30 Jan 2022 07:34:44 -0800, RonTheGuy
> >> <r...@null.invalid> wrote:
> >>
> >> >You buy containers wrapped in those 5 foot long half inch wide plastic
> >> >wrapping straps and you cut off the straps with scissors.
> >> >
> >> >Then you throw away the straps because you can't reheat them to seal them
> >> >for something else.
> >> >
> >> >Or can you?
> >> >
> >> >Is there anything we already have at home that will heat those straps
> >> >together when they're pulled tightly around another box?
> >> >
> >> >Do any of you re-use those tightly wrapped plastic packing straps for
> >> >anything?
> >> I save all that stuff. If you mean platic "ties",
> >
> >He means this type of strapping:
> >
> >https://www.amazon.com/Strapworks-Heavyweight-Polypropylene-Webbing-Strapping/dp/B01KTVEHFI
> Oh. I don't think I've seen this exact thing. If he didn't mean one
> of those nylon ratchety wire ties,

Here is that "exact thing", in use:

Snow tires & wheels from TireRack.

https://i.imgur.com/zANoR8d.jpg

BTW...That's an older picture (2015) but TireRack still packages their wheel
and tire sets exactly like that.

3 weeks ago I ordered a set of snow tires and wheels from TireRack. I placed the
order over the phone and was told that the order would ship from a TireRack
distribution center that is about 400 miles from my house. Less than 25 hours after
I placed the order, the tire and wheels were delivered to my front door. The tires
were mounted on the wheels and balanced, ready for me to bolt onto the vehicle.
That's better than Amazon Prime since I'm pretty sure that Amazon workers don't
mount and balance tires. ;-)

...snip...

[hub...@ccanoemail.ca]

>>
>>
>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wwdwTVGsTXg
>>
>> The little metal clips in this video would seem to be an
>> effective and cheap way to re-use the strapping ?
>> John T.
>
>
>Assuming you don't need to pull them tight...or have another way to do that
>and also crimp the clip. Are the dedicated tools that are shown required?
>Maybe not, but they were designed with those purposes in mind.
>

I went and re-watched the video - didn't see any tools ..
It seems to pull nice & tight by hand..
The only thing he does "wrong" is fold/crease the long
end that he subsequently pulls through.
John T.

[Marilyn Manson]

There have been a couple of videos related to the metal clips,
I guess. The one I watched used one tool for tightening and one
tool crimping the clip. I'll check yours out when I get a chance.

[hub...@ccanoemail.ca]

No doubt there are lots of commercial/industrial variations but the OP
was talking about re-using the poly strapping - this video makes it
appear that a ten-cent clip would work - which works-for-me.
John T.

[Marilyn Manson]

...and the tools in this video don't preclude reusing the poly strapping,
just like the clips could be used in commercial/industrial applications.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ODEarnHRZPQ

I guess it depends on how often you plan to perform the strapping
operation and the physical capabilities of the user. I'm sure I could
pull the straps tighter than SWMBO but the tool would even out the
score and give a more consistent end result. Yes, at a higher cost.

Personally, I like the single tool heat bonding method. Well, personally,
I don't think I've ever had the need (or desire) to reuse the straps. ;-)

https://www.amazon.com/Strapworks-Heavyweight-Polypropylene-Webbing-Strapping/dp/B01KTVEHFI

[Thomas]

They are only good to step on, on edge in an open warehouse. Nice loud echo.