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micky

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Nov 7, 2020, 5:24:39 PM11/7/20
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Conceding:

If I were trump (God forbid) I would not concede yet either. Nor if I
were Biden or me, in this situation. I'd want to hear reports from
poll-watchers. Maybe there are many who were subject to improprieties
and are not lying about it.

But what trump could do is say "I want to congratulate Joe Biden for his
fine finish in Tuesday's election. It's not yet clear who won and we
won't know that for a while yet, but he was a worthy competitor, blah,
blah." You might want to put the second sentence first, for fear some
will think you're concedilng. OTOH, it's nice to start off with
something nice, and not disclaimers. If I were in their shoes, I'd spend
2 hours thinking about which order to use and I'd miss my bus.

But anyhow, we knew well in advance that trump would never say anything
this nice, even though it would have cost him nothing, and might even
help in negotiating with other Democrats. And even though it's the
right thing to do.

Dean Hoffman

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Nov 7, 2020, 5:56:37 PM11/7/20
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His motives might be selfish but it's good that he's stirring the pot.
Now is as good a time as any if thing need fixin'. Inertia tends to let
things get sloppy until a problem comes up and somebody hollers.

philo

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Nov 7, 2020, 6:00:32 PM11/7/20
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On 11/7/20 4:24 PM, micky wrote:
Were it close, I agree but it's not even close.

4 million popular votes. 60 or 70 point difference in the EC


Ed Pawlowski

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Nov 7, 2020, 6:51:29 PM11/7/20
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On 11/7/2020 5:24 PM, micky wrote:
> Conceding:
>
> If I were trump (God forbid) I would not concede yet either. Nor if I
> were Biden or me, in this situation. I'd want to hear reports from
> poll-watchers. Maybe there are many who were subject to improprieties
> and are not lying about it.
>

Are you talking about the legitimate poll watchers assigned to a
precinct and authorized?

Or do you mean the mobs of people that tried to make a circus of the
vote counting and interfere?

gfre...@aol.com

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Nov 7, 2020, 10:17:54 PM11/7/20
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On Sat, 07 Nov 2020 17:24:32 -0500, micky <NONONO...@fmguy.com>
wrote:
The best you can hope for is
"He cheated and got away with it. That is worth something I suppose.
Fuck you and goodbye. See you on my TV station".

micky

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Nov 8, 2020, 12:30:03 AM11/8/20
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In alt.home.repair, on Sat, 7 Nov 2020 17:00:24 -0600, philo
It's obvious to us, but I figure trump doesn't believe it yet.

I said I wouldn't concede either. As I said, I take a long time to make
up my mind. I'm still trying to decide whether to run for state rep in
1982.

micky

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Nov 8, 2020, 12:38:28 AM11/8/20
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In alt.home.repair, on Sat, 7 Nov 2020 18:51:20 -0500, Ed Pawlowski
<e...@snet.xxx> wrote:

>On 11/7/2020 5:24 PM, micky wrote:
>> Conceding:
>>
>> If I were trump (God forbid) I would not concede yet either. Nor if I
>> were Biden or me, in this situation. I'd want to hear reports from
>> poll-watchers. Maybe there are many who were subject to improprieties
>> and are not lying about it.
>>
>
>Are you talking about the legitimate poll watchers assigned to a
>precinct and authorized?

Yes. I assume the others never got in.
>
>Or do you mean the mobs of people that tried to make a circus of the
>vote counting and interfere?

No. I read about them pounding on the door in some big city,probably in
Pa. I assume the police were called by someone inside, and they made
the pounders stop.


BTW, I can't find the thread but I said soomething about election
judges**, and someone replied that in some other country there were 2
judges at each polling place but they didn't do anything most of the
time. **Maybe I used the wrong word, not sure. I think that's what
the 3 people in charge of a polling place in Illinois are called. All my
info is from late 60's, early 70's, but there were two Dems and one Rep,
or the opposite in each polling place, and they are busy all the time.
They make decisions, keep order, instruct the policeman what to do if
someone is causing a problem,
and iirc they are the major poll workers too. They check people in,
find their registation in the book (now the computer or tablet). hand
them whatever piece of paper or something that tells the voting booth
manager that they are allowed to vote.

pounder

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Nov 8, 2020, 7:04:39 AM11/8/20
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On 11/8/20 12:38 AM, micky wrote:
> No. I read about them pounding on the door in some big city,probably in
> Pa. I assume the police were called by someone inside, and they made
> the pounders stop.


So when the democrat's BLM is burning and looting and murdering and smashing glass, that's ok.

However, when the dems are committing voter fraud they demand peace and quiet.  LOL

FromTheRafters

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Nov 8, 2020, 7:41:35 AM11/8/20
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pounder pretended :
More lies.

trader_4

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Nov 8, 2020, 9:10:50 AM11/8/20
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No, it's not good, it's just another nasty, unneeded divisive shit show
by a sore loser. Declaring over and over that he's won is wrong.
Calling for the votes not to be counted on election night was wrong.
Calling his losing election fraud in the biggest democracy in the world
is not good. Putin must be very happy right now. This is why Putin
wanted Trump elected over Hillary, to tear America apart.

As to claims of election fraud, Trump has been falsely claiming our elections
are rigged since the primaries in 2016. He claimed after he won that he
only lost the popular vote because there were 3 mil illegal votes. He
appointed Pence to lead a commission to prove it. After less than a year
they proved nothing, found nothing, they folded up their tent. Now
he's doing the same evil thing. This is exactly what Putin and our
other enemies want, to delegitimize our elections, to sow discord and
confusion. And in doing so, Trump is once again showing why he needed
to be fired.

trader_4

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Nov 8, 2020, 9:11:12 AM11/8/20
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+1

trader_4

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Nov 8, 2020, 9:15:49 AM11/8/20
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And there has been plenty of time to have heard of this. So far,
virtually nothing, let alone anything substantial enough to reverse
the election. Team Trump demonstrated how they have no evidence when
they went to court in MI. They had an affidavit from someone who says
that a poll worker told them about some irregularity. That's it.
Not the poll worker, but hearsay. And they did not even identify
who the alleged poll worker was, where or when it occurred, etc.
If these people exist we know by now Ruddy would have had some of
them front and center at
his press conference yesterday. The one that he held in the parking lot
of a landscape company next door to a porno store outside Philly.

Ed Pawlowski

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Nov 8, 2020, 10:44:11 AM11/8/20
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On 11/8/2020 9:15 AM, trader_4 wrote:

> If these people exist we know by now Ruddy would have had some of
> them front and center at
> his press conference yesterday. The one that he held in the parking lot
> of a landscape company next door to a porno store outside Philly.
>

I could not think of a more appropriate place. I wonder if the feature
film was Stormy Daniels.

Back in the 60s I used to work up the street from there. It is an
industrial road that parallels the Delaware river and not far from some
decent residential areas. I don't know why they say "outside" of
Philadelphia as the city border is a couple of miles away, though it is
not near down town.

Grumpy Old White Guy

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Nov 8, 2020, 12:09:16 PM11/8/20
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On 11/8/2020 9:15 AM, trader_4 wrote:
If your team thinks they've won the erection, why are your children still destroying the US?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4zTltmPtmnc


--
Demolitioncrats are destroying America!

Grumpy Old White Guy

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Nov 8, 2020, 12:11:30 PM11/8/20
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See!  Dead voters CAN make a difference.  We now have proof of life after death.

Bod

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Nov 8, 2020, 12:37:18 PM11/8/20
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Show it then. We keep asking for proof, none is forthcoming.

marika

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Nov 8, 2020, 2:46:31 PM11/8/20
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The doctor had him on serious medications, so you know it was a serious infection made worse with obesity. His mental status is certainly changed from the illness and from the side effects. Who knows what he will do.

It is taking quite some time to wrap up the remaining cases even without his law suitery. He is holding out hope.

During Xmas, he should make a voice-over demo tape and send it to all he knows who have connections with performance and all who have a reputation for helping people (eg Steve Harvey & Ellen).

I suppose he has to get used to it the older he gets.

My father showed me a funeral procession when I was a kid. He said, "See how short that one is? That means the person was old. If you see a long one, the person was either young or very important." It is hard to say what his procession will look like

Michael Cohen says he will not go. that Trump will start his own media company. He notes he has an audience of more than 100 million and he will continue to cause chaos with fake news through this media company. He says Trump will go to Maralago at xmas and fail to return in January

mk5000

The number of people across the globe whose weight poses a serious threat to their health is greater than ever before, and this epidemic of severe obesity is too extensive to be tackled with medications such as blood pressure lowering drugs or diabetes treatments alone, or with a few extra bike lanes.--Majid Ezzati

marika

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Nov 8, 2020, 2:53:19 PM11/8/20
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so many people gave us precautionary information that this was going to happen

maybe the usa doesn't know what “precautionary” means.

mk5000

Knowledge is of two kinds. We know a subject ourselves, or we know where we can find information upon it.

Samuel Johnson

marika

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Nov 8, 2020, 2:55:14 PM11/8/20
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Uh oh trump and rudy be in trouble


mk5000

For me, whether we win or lose, every match is giving me a lot of information about how to improve.

Unai Emery

micky

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Nov 8, 2020, 3:25:46 PM11/8/20
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In alt.home.repair, on Sun, 8 Nov 2020 10:44:01 -0500, Ed Pawlowski
Why did they go to the Four Seasons Landscape company. Did someone at
the Four Seasons hotel trick them into leaving the hotel alone?

Ed Pawlowski

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Nov 8, 2020, 4:47:33 PM11/8/20
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Probably no one else would have them. It is opposite end of the city
from the main Philly airport, a few miles from the other one. Right off
the exit of I95 though.

No idea who owns the company, they may be involved locally in politics.
https://www.fstl1992.com/

May have been a mistake to host it though.

https://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/us-elections-government/ny-four-seasons-landscaping-donald-trump-joe-biden-20201108-5r5npgk3lvdnfnnamq2pl2jooi-story.html

A Philadelphia landscaping company is trying to dig itself out of a hole
after Team Trump bizarrely held a press conference at the business last
week.

Four Seasons Total Landscaping, Inc., where Trump lawyer Rudy Giuliani
addressed reporters on Saturday, pleaded for understanding from critics
in a Sunday Facebook post.

“It saddens us that we have received such harsh judgement. Our team at
Four Seasons would have proudly hosted any presidential candidate’s
campaign at our business,” stated the landscapers, who described
themselves as “a family-owned small business run by lifelong
Philadelphians.”

gfre...@aol.com

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Nov 8, 2020, 5:09:49 PM11/8/20
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On Sun, 08 Nov 2020 00:38:21 -0500, micky <NONONO...@fmguy.com>
wrote:

>In alt.home.repair, on Sat, 7 Nov 2020 18:51:20 -0500, Ed Pawlowski
><e...@snet.xxx> wrote:
>
>>On 11/7/2020 5:24 PM, micky wrote:
>>> Conceding:
>>>
>>> If I were trump (God forbid) I would not concede yet either. Nor if I
>>> were Biden or me, in this situation. I'd want to hear reports from
>>> poll-watchers. Maybe there are many who were subject to improprieties
>>> and are not lying about it.
>>>
>>
>>Are you talking about the legitimate poll watchers assigned to a
>>precinct and authorized?
>
>Yes. I assume the others never got in.
>>
>>Or do you mean the mobs of people that tried to make a circus of the
>>vote counting and interfere?
>
>No. I read about them pounding on the door in some big city,probably in
>Pa. I assume the police were called by someone inside, and they made
>the pounders stop.
>
>
This really reminds me of 2000 and the Democrats pounding on the glass
in Miami demanding the same sort of things.

gfre...@aol.com

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Nov 8, 2020, 5:12:51 PM11/8/20
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On Sun, 8 Nov 2020 06:15:43 -0800 (PST), trader_4
<tra...@optonline.net> wrote:

>If these people exist we know by now Ruddy would have had some of
>them front and center at
>his press conference yesterday. The one that he held in the parking lot
>of a landscape company next door to a porno store outside Philly.

I thought that whole thing was funny. Either some staffer was so dumb
that they didn't realize this was a landscape company, not the hotel
or Trump was trying to repair his status with the Mexicans who work
there.

micky

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Nov 8, 2020, 5:19:24 PM11/8/20
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In alt.home.repair, on Sun, 8 Nov 2020 11:46:25 -0800 (PST), marika
<marik...@gmail.com> wrote:

>He says Trump will go to Maralago at xmas and fail to return in January

Wouldn't be surprised. The golf is better there than in DC in the
winter, and then he could skip the inauguration too, which I'm sure he
wants to do. It would be something the White House Corrspondents Dinner
with everyone laughing at him.

Compare with Al Gore, who as VP and president of the Senate got the job
in the Senate of announcing George W Bush's election

Bob F

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Nov 8, 2020, 7:51:32 PM11/8/20
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Never ending trumptard nonsense.

Roger Oveur

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Nov 8, 2020, 8:23:29 PM11/8/20
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Never ending supply of cheating lying democrats.

Ed Pawlowski

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Nov 8, 2020, 9:27:59 PM11/8/20
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Yep, it will be proven once the evidence comes out in court. Rudy has
lots of it, yes he does. He'll show 'em!
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