Which window to use? Hurd vs. Marvin vs. Pella
William Kornfeld
need to choose a window manufacturer. I've decided to go with
aluminum-clad wood and have narrowed the choice down to Hurd, Marvin or
Pella. The windows all look very nice in the showroom, and its hard (by
looking) to discern differences in quality.
I'd really appreciate any feedback anyone has on the relative strengths
and weaknesses of these three brands, in particular in terms of long
term performance.
Thanks for your help!
Roy Smith
> I'm building a new 3200 sq ft house in the San Francisco Bay area and
> need to choose a window manufacturer. I've decided to go with
> aluminum-clad wood and have narrowed the choice down to Hurd, Marvin or
> Pella. The windows all look very nice in the showroom, and its hard (by
> looking) to discern differences in quality.
We used Marvin Integrity and are pretty happy with them. They're not
aluminum clad, but some sort of fiberglass-type material, which seemed
better to me.
The one sore point is the screens; they are difficult/awkward to get
installed if you don't have access to the outside of the window to help
push them into place, and the little plastic clips that hold them in place
are very fragile; we've already broken a few.
We originally wanted divided lights. Both the Pella and Marvin divided
light clip-on-grids looked very poorly designed and likely to fall apart
and be trash within a few years. The very top-of-the-line Pella (the
Architect series?) divided lights looked better designed, but what a price
they wanted for them! We ended up skipping the divided light idea
completely.
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Roy Smith <r...@popmail.med.nyu.edu>
New York University School of Medicine
GLT
have a window you'd like also.
Roy Smith <r...@popmail.med.nyu.edu> wrote in message
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get blasted with wind and rain in the winter.
70 mph is very common but the windows have seen over well
over 100 mph. There are over 40 of them and they've all
performed flawlessly.
The only problem I had was when I failed to latch one
securely and some weird pressure differential pulled it
open, bent the casement mechanism, and sucked out the
screen. The window remained on the hinge fortunately but
the screen became a "pretzel".
The local Pella dealer gave me a new mechanism 'gratis"
and ordered me a new screen.
I wish the Pella's had two separate casement locks instead
of one lever for both locks. I think it would make them a
little more secure but it's kind of a nit.
Bottom line is I'm very happy with them and wouldn't
consider any other brand.
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Smith) wrote:
>William Kornfeld <korn...@kornfeld.com> wrote:
>> I'm building a new 3200 sq ft house in the San Francisco Bay area and
>> need to choose a window manufacturer. I've decided to go with
>> aluminum-clad wood and have narrowed the choice down to Hurd, Marvin or
>> Pella. The windows all look very nice in the showroom, and its hard (by
>> looking) to discern differences in quality.
>
You did not say what type of window you are looking to buy. If they
are casements the Pella Designer Series II with removable panes are
neat in theory with the shade in the glass but I would go right to the
designer Classics with no removable panes. I like Pella casements
with the Roll Screen's though, very nice.
For double hung, either Pella or Marvin but I think the Pella clip on
grids look nice where the Marvin look poor (compared to what the
poster below stated) The Pella Architect series are big $$$ but I
don't know if you can get them with aluminum clad exteriors. If
you've got the extra $$$ I would go with the Pella's but I don't think
that you would be dissapointed with Marvin either.
Bob Thorne
good about Pella.
>William Kornfeld <korn...@kornfeld.com> wrote:
>> I'm building a new 3200 sq ft house in the San Francisco Bay area and
>> need to choose a window manufacturer. I've decided to go with
>> aluminum-clad wood and have narrowed the choice down to Hurd, Marvin or
>> Pella. The windows all look very nice in the showroom, and its hard (by
>> looking) to discern differences in quality.
>
>We used Marvin Integrity and are pretty happy with them. They're not
>aluminum clad, but some sort of fiberglass-type material, which seemed
>better to me.
>
>The one sore point is the screens; they are difficult/awkward to get
>installed if you don't have access to the outside of the window to help
>push them into place, and the little plastic clips that hold them in place
>are very fragile; we've already broken a few.
>
>We originally wanted divided lights. Both the Pella and Marvin divided
>light clip-on-grids looked very poorly designed and likely to fall apart
>and be trash within a few years. The very top-of-the-line Pella (the
>Architect series?) divided lights looked better designed, but what a price
>they wanted for them! We ended up skipping the divided light idea
>completely.
>
bf...@attglobal.net
We used Anderson double hung in the last house. They were fine.
No problems, worked as well as anyone could expect. My only peave?
Screens on the outside, hard to clean the ones way up high.
On the new house, we considered Lincoln, Anderson, Marvin, and Pella.
We did Pella casements for a couple of reasons, price, availability,
reputation, and reasonable quality.
The quality of the window is equal to Anderson (in my opinion), and
service has been very good. The const. crews damaged a number of
them, but Pella came out and fixed/replaced all very promptly.
The locks use a single lever, but there are a pair of latches (top
and bottom area of the leading edge. I feel the crank mechanism is
a bit week (the welds holding the pinion gear housing break
surprisingly easily. Of course, this is only a factor if you
have a tendency to wack heavy things directly on the crank
handle.
Would I use Pella again? I would probably go upscale one more notch.
Anyone know anything about Pozzi (?) besides the fact that they make
nice ads?
--
With Kind Regards,
Dr. John Feng
Müller-BBM VibroAkustik Systeme, Inc.
325 E. Eisenhower Parkway, Suite 300
Ann Arbor, MI 48108
tel: 734-327-4147
fax: 734-327-4143
email: bf...@VibroAkustik.de
Jr
lever for the latching the window shut. Pella service is better than most
that's why I like them, they send a factory rep out to adjust/fix them after
construction. If you have a good carpenter who can install windows then the
Pella service is something you would not have to pay for...
JR
Blue Ox Mill
years. We just made new windows for the Oldest Russian Church in the U.S. in
Unalaska for the National Park Service. The windows that we replaced have
been working for the last 150 years, show me an aluminum window that will
last half that long especially in the salt air of San Francisco. You can see
the windows that I'm talking about at www.blueoxmill.com ..... Eric
John Coggins
you can't see the windows at the site referenced.
I did see redwood gutters ("Redwood gutter is also milled on our
four-sided moulders. Any size from 3x4 to 6x8 – or larger can be
custom milled for you. When installed and maintained properly
redwood gutter last 100 years or more! We have gleaned detailed
instructions from the old-timers in our area to share with you –
give us a call!")
What do these cost?
klm...@ibm.net
solid windows, despite what the others may say. Pella is frankly
overpriced. If you are going with a clad product it is hard to beat
either Hurd or Marvin. Marvin gives you a lot of custom options and
Hurd nails it with its glass performance and energy efficiency. Hurd
is, at least on the West Coast, sold wholesale direct and so has the
pricing advantage over Marvin. If it was my money (and it was once) I
would go with the Hurd product. If you are concerned with air
infiltration, be sure to use casement windows with whatever brand you
use. These are the most "tight" windows you can use next to a fixed
one.
Good luck!
Ken
On Fri, 08 Oct 1999 15:21:14 -0400, flow...@pobox.com (Bill
McGonigle) wrote:
>I have a large multi-window Pella unit, and it's very drafty. It's circa '91.
>
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>-Bill
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>Dartmouth-Hitchcock Medical Center Clinical Computing
Blue Ox Mill
$9.00 per ft for 3x4, $10.75 for 4x4 and up for 6x6 and 6x8. I don't know
those prices off the top of my head. The windows that I mentioned are on
our web site www.blueoxmill.com go to Victorian Mouldings and at the bottom
of that page go to Photo Gallery, second pictures down are the Church and an
arched window complete with casements and mouldings. Eric
John Coggins wrote in message <37FE6BF0...@earthlink.net>...
>I've heard this opinion before and it's interesting. milled on our
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>What do these cost?
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