Lint filter for washing machine drain

[Harry Avant]

I would like to add a lint filter to the drain on my washing machine.
I've found a few but all state they are for use with drains running
into a laundry sink and NOT standpipe drains. My washing machine drain
hooks onto the top of a three foot high plastic pipe since there is no
sink in the area. Questions: why can't I use a mesh sock type screen
in this situation and is there anything designed specifically for this
type application?

[Shaun]

Curious-- why filter waste water?

[2 door]

"Harry Avant" <hav...@earthlink.net> wrote in message
news:337j069lshu8m5kck...@4ax.com...

Lint filter doesn't stay free of debris, guess what happens?

I'm also curious why you would want to filter waste water. Seems to me, it
would be like wanting to filter toilet water. Sewers are there for a
purpose.

[DD_BobK]

I would agree with the other two posts.....why a lint filter?

In my old laundry "room", recently decommissioned for some space
allocation changes,
I had a laundry sink where the sink drain had a "cross" feature.

The cross inadvertently "filtered" the washer water, actually it was a
PITA lint catcher that sometimes caused the sink to over flow. The
new washer installation location has a 2" (in the wall) standpipe and
after nearly a year of operation, no overflows. I guess the lint is
going merrily down the drain.

IMO your lint catching idea is a net negative.

The discharge rate of an "old school" top loading washer is something
like 20+ gpm. My laundry sink acted like a storm water retention
basin. Filling up part way as the washer emptied, then draining after
the washer was done.

That mesh sock idea is a flood waiting to happen.

cheers
Bob

[BQ340]

I don't think the sock would drain fast enough unless it's OD was much
less than the standpipes ID. The only thing I've seen is inline traps
like this type http://www.filtrol160.com/ but never used one so not sure
how easy to clean & how often it is needed.

MikeB

[Nate Nagel]

uh, you don't want soapy goo clogging your drains? POs of my house
didn't believe in them either, apparently, and I cleaned the deep sink
with a putty knife.

nate

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[2 door]

"Nate Nagel" <njn...@roosters.net> wrote in message
news:huc96...@news1.newsguy.com...

Uh, where does the OP say anything about a sink?

What's your deep sink, have to do with their waste pipe?

The previous owners could've had several problems.. Think outside a filter.
Not enough rinse cycle, too much soap, malfunctioning washer, are prime
examples. Having soft water, will cut your detergent in 1/2. Having to take
a putty knife to clean soap, should've been the first hint there was a
problem other than actually putting soap in the washer. Geesh!

[Nate Nagel]

On 06/04/2010 09:48 PM, 2 door wrote:
> "Nate Nagel"<njn...@roosters.net> wrote in message
> news:huc96...@news1.newsguy.com...
>> On 06/04/2010 08:30 PM, 2 door wrote:
>>> "Harry Avant"<hav...@earthlink.net> wrote in message
>>> news:337j069lshu8m5kck...@4ax.com...
>>>> I would like to add a lint filter to the drain on my washing machine.
>>>> I've found a few but all state they are for use with drains running
>>>> into a laundry sink and NOT standpipe drains. My washing machine drain
>>>> hooks onto the top of a three foot high plastic pipe since there is no
>>>> sink in the area. Questions: why can't I use a mesh sock type screen
>>>> in this situation and is there anything designed specifically for this
>>>> type application?
>>>
>>> Lint filter doesn't stay free of debris, guess what happens?
>>>
>>> I'm also curious why you would want to filter waste water. Seems to me,
>>> it
>>> would be like wanting to filter toilet water. Sewers are there for a
>>> purpose.
>>>
>>
>> uh, you don't want soapy goo clogging your drains? POs of my house
>> didn't believe in them either, apparently, and I cleaned the deep sink
>> with a putty knife.
>>
>> nate
>
> Uh, where does the OP say anything about a sink?

He didn't.

>
> What's your deep sink, have to do with their waste pipe?

The same stuff goes in both places.

> The previous owners could've had several problems.. Think outside a filter.
> Not enough rinse cycle, too much soap, malfunctioning washer, are prime
> examples. Having soft water, will cut your detergent in 1/2. Having to take
> a putty knife to clean soap, should've been the first hint there was a
> problem other than actually putting soap in the washer. Geesh!

I don't know what they did or didn't do, but I *do* know that a) the
"sock" fills up every few months or so and b) I have not had to scrub
the sink since.

I do throw a pot of boiling water in it maybe once a year or so whenever
I flush the water heater, as the pipes are 60+ years old.

[Bob F]

It cuts down on plugged drains significantly.

[mm]

I don't konw about the OP but I do it mostly so that the check valve
in the sink drain doesn't clog open. If lint sticks on the valve
flap, when the drain backs up after the stream floods, the valve won't
be able to stop it. Despite my care, I think just a year after I put
in the check valve, the drain did back up and the check valve didn't
stop it.

By this time I had already started jambing a stick in between a rubber
stopper and a shelf above it that was screwed to the wall, whenever I
don't use the washer, but I took out the stick for a second and the
water rushed in. Then I plugged it back up again.

I wish I could answer the OP's question but I can't. Someone says the
sock woudln't drain fast enough. Maybe that's true, since in a sink
the sock can drain from the end and the full lenghth of the sides.

[willshak]

2 door wrote the following:

Not everyone has a sewer system. Septic systems have to be cleaned out
on occasion. The least debris you put into it, the further apart the
costly cleaning requirement.

--

Bill
In Hamptonburgh, NY
In the original Orange County. Est. 1683
To email, remove the double zeroes after @

[Bob F]

Jim Elbrecht wrote:
> "Bob F" <bobn...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> 2 door wrote:
> -snip-

>>>
>>> I'm also curious why you would want to filter waste water. Seems to
>>> me, it would be like wanting to filter toilet water. Sewers are
>>> there for a purpose.
>>
>> It cuts down on plugged drains significantly.
>>
>

> Significantly? I'm 60. I've been draining unfiltered lint into my
> drains for about 40 years. I've had one clogged drain. [that one
> was caused by trying to use a garbage disposal for some fibrous melon
> rinds.]
>
> If your machine dumps into a utility sink I can see how a filter might
> help keep that trap clean. If it dumps into a standpipe, there is
> plenty of water pressure to keep *that* trap clean.

You have nice smooth pipes. Not everyone is so lucky. I have to clean the pipe
from that drain significantle less often if a filter is installed.

[Nikki ll]

replying to 2 door, Nikki ll wrote:

> none wrote:
>
> "Harry Avant" <hav...@earthlink.net> wrote in message
> news:337j069lshu8m5kck...@4ax.com...

> Lint filter doesn't stay free of debris, guess what happens?
> I'm also curious why you would want to filter waste water. Seems to me, it
> would be like wanting to filter toilet water. Sewers are there for a
> purpose.

live in florida, have 2 septic tanks, one is for gray water which
receives the kitchen sink and laundry discharge, the lines ( which Y
together ) under the slab for the gray water is 2 inch PVC. every two
years without fail I have had to have Roto Rooter or some other drain
cleaning company clean out the pipe under the slab because of pet / human
hair and lint. always over a hundred dollars, the last clean out the
plumber said why don't you put ladies nylon hose over drain hose and
clamp it on being sure to check it each week after laundry day. I am an
elderly woman, sure was relieved I could do it myself and not have to
write that big check every other year. He also said it would keep build
up out of septic tank which is a greater expense to clean.


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[Paul Drahn]

That story also means the PVC pipes were most likely put in backwards so
there is a sharp end collecting the lint. Several years ago I had to
have a septic system completely rebuilt because it was put in by a moron
contractor. My neighbor doing the work pointed out the incorrect order
of the 4inch PVC going to the septic tank.

Bet you have the same problem, but there is no way to correct it.

Paul

[nestork]

Nikki:

You can do a lot better than a piece of hosiery wrapped around the end
of your washer's discharge hose.

Any place that deals with agricultural spraying equipment will sell
"inline strainers" like the kind shown in the photo below:

http://www.vacmotion.com/images/Strainers/InLineStrainersBottom.png

Basically, you simply splice the inline strainer right into your
washer's discharge hose, and clean it every so often. To clean it, you
simply unscrew the cup off the bottom of the strainer and remove the
cylindrical strainer screen. Clean the screen in a pail of water, or
just let it dry out and brush the lint off of it with an old toothbrush
when it's dry, put it back into the inline strainer and screw the cup
housing back on.

The advantage of an inline strainer are many:
1. it has much more surface area than you'd get by simply putting a sock
over the end of your discharge hose, so you wouldn't need to clean the
strainer nearly as often.
2. the cylindrical strainers come in various mesh sizes and the wire
mesh is made of stainless steel, so each strainer will last much
longer.
3. You can buy replacement strainers as parts, so you can have one
inside the inline strainer while the other one is drying out for
cleaning.

You don't need to be a plumber to splice an inline strainer into the
discharge hose of your washing machine, and anyone at the agricultural
spraying store that sells you the strainer will also be able to supply
you with the necessary fittings to splice the strainer into your
washer's discharge hose.

If you choose the go the hosiery route, I'd use one whole nylon leg.
Drop the nylon into your washer's standpipe, fold the top of the nylon
over the top of the stand pipe so the nylon mesh is on the OUTSIDE of
the stand pipe and put a clamp on the stand pipe and tighten it up to
hold the nylon in place. I'd be concerned about using the nylon because
if it tears, it could end up clogging up that drain pipe. That would
never happen with an inline strainer. Also, if you get an inline
strainer with a transparent cup, you'll be able to see how badly the
strainer needs cleaning.




--
nestork

[DerbyDad03]

Not everyone has a standpipe. This device works quite well in a utility
sink. This is what I use.

http://www.linttrapper.com/design/images/lint_trapper_item.jpg

[John]

Just a .jpg --- Have a URL?

John

[John]

Never mind, found it.
thx

[micky]

On Fri, 6 Jun 2014 22:49:04 +0200, nestork
<nestork...@diybanter.com> wrote:

>
>Nikki:
>
>You can do a lot better than a piece of hosiery wrapped around the end
>of your washer's discharge hose.
>
>Any place that deals with agricultural spraying equipment will sell
>"inline strainers" like the kind shown in the photo below:
>
>http://www.vacmotion.com/images/Strainers/InLineStrainersBottom.png

My washing machine doesn't have any lint filter, only a lint chopper.

I've never seen it, but I've certainly seen a lot of lint come out,
chopped or not. I use another device because I don't want to clog the
check valve in my laundry sink drain pipe.

Do you think this device you recommend will go more than one load
without needing cleaning?

How many loads do you go, and do you have a separate cleanable lint
filter in your washing machine.

[Bob F]

A filter like that will drain slower as it gets plugged up, but has until you
get to the next load to drain the whole tub, which could be hours or days, so
it'll probably do the job. If the tub is full of water when you load the next
wash, you clean it first. If it plugs up completely, and the wash and rinse
cycles fill the tub, the water will go above the filter, and overflow down the
middle of it without filtering, if I see it correctly.

[DerbyDad03]

There seems to be some confusion here.

Micky responded to nestork's post about an in-line filter, while you
described the concept behind the in _drain_ filter that I linked to.

BTW...there are at least three was to clean the in-drain filter. Sometimes
I just wrap my hand around the lint and slide it off without removing the
filter from the drain, toss it in the garbage, then rinse my hand.
Sometimes I pull filter out and give it a quick hard "snap" over the
garbage and the lint comes off. Every now and then I give it a good
rinsing, inside and out, after removing the majority of the lint.

One downside is that you sometimes have to rinse out the sink because the
slower draining water doesn't always wash everything towards the drain.

[nestork]

What's confusing me is why you guys have so much lint in the water
coming out of your washer.

It seems to me that there will be SOME lint, the odd strand of thread
and maybe a button or two a year, but there shouldn't be so much lint
that the lint filter needs cleaning after every wash.




--
nestork

[trader_4]

I've never had a problem with lint clogging a drain line, but it seems reasonable that a fair amount of lint would go down the drain. Just
look at the lint screen in a typical dryer. That frequently has a lot
of lint after just one use. If lint is in the dryer, seems reasonable
it's in the wash water too. Most drain systems aren't that sensitive
to it. But if you have one that is marginal, seems that lint from
the washer could foul it up.

[nestork]

trader_4;3245623 Wrote:
>
> I've never had a problem with lint clogging a drain line, but it seems
> reasonable that a fair amount of lint would go down the drain. Just
> look at the lint screen in a typical dryer. That frequently has a lot
> of lint after just one use. If lint is in the dryer, seems reasonable
> it's in the wash water too. Most drain systems aren't that sensitive
> to it. But if you have one that is marginal, seems that lint from
> the washer could foul it up.

I have three washers for 21 apartments and all three washers ultimately
drain into the same drain pipe and I've never had that drain clog.
Maybe it's because that drain pipe connects to the main (6 inch
diameter) drain line from the building, and it would take a lot more
than lint to clog that line.

I'm just surprised that the lint wouldn't be carried by the water, even
if the water is moving slowly, for far enough to reach the main sewer
line. Perhaps this is something that only concerns septic tanks... I
dunno.




--
nestork

[DerbyDad03]

So I assume you don't have a lint trap on the drain hose of any of those
washers. Perhaps you should give it a try just to see. I think you'd be
surprised how much lint is produced from each load of wash. I'm not saying
it has to be cleaned after every wash but there is a fair amount produced
each time.

I stopped using the end-of-hose mesh style traps because of the problems I
had when they did eventually get filled up. The pump on my front loader is
pretty powerful. When the lint trap would get filled up, the water would
start shooting out of the trap in all directions. Most of those directions
were not down into the utility sink. Eventually it would blow the trap off
of the hose where it would then often block the sink drain. The front
loader doesn't use enough water to overflow even one side of the double
utility sink, but the spray from the filled trap got the floor and walls
wet and then I had to reach into the dirty water to find the trap and
retrieve it.

Now that I used the plastic in-the-drain filter, those problems are
eliminated.

[micky]

On Sun, 8 Jun 2014 04:05:03 +0000 (UTC), DerbyDad03
<teama...@eznet.net> wrote:

>nestork <nestork...@diybanter.com> wrote:
>> trader_4;3245623 Wrote:
>>>
>>> I've never had a problem with lint clogging a drain line, but it seems
>>> reasonable that a fair amount of lint would go down the drain. Just
>>> look at the lint screen in a typical dryer. That frequently has a lot
>>> of lint after just one use. If lint is in the dryer, seems reasonable
>>> it's in the wash water too. Most drain systems aren't that sensitive
>>> to it. But if you have one that is marginal, seems that lint from
>>> the washer could foul it up.

>> ......

>>
>> I'm just surprised that the lint wouldn't be carried by the water, even
>> if the water is moving slowly, for far enough to reach the main sewer
>> line. Perhaps this is something that only concerns septic tanks... I
>> dunno.

This woudn't be an issue for me but I have a check valve in the laundry
sink drain pipe. And I think it would take only a tiny bit of lint
near the hinge, or a little more away from the hinge, to keep the valve
from shutting completey. As I've said a few times over the years, I
need the check valve because sometimes the stream rises higher than the
manhole covers near the stream, the stream fills the sewer and the sewer
backs up into my basement and the 3 townhouses next to mine, which are
the lowest houses in the n'hood.

Indeed, the first time after I installed the check valve that the water
got this high, it was entering the sink fast, and I had to go to plan 3
which was a rubber stopper, and a piece of heavy picture frame shoved
between the stopper and a shelf above the sink, screwed to the shelf
braket which is screwed to the wall. the shelf has maybe 40 pounds of
things on it. Now that stopped the water.

Once I forgot to put the stopper in, and even then only about 16 oz. of
water got on the floor, which seems to me to mean that the check valve
does work somewhat.

But the newest problem is that after 25 years, the rubber stopper seems
to have gotten smaller, or the drain hole bigger. The stopper was
firmly jambed in place when the sink overflowed, and on aother occasion,
I could see water coming out around the edge of the stopper. It's
frustrating knowing there's nothing I can do except try to start a
continous siphon to the sump pump sump.

I bought another stopper and it seemed smaller, and I've bought two more
but haven't tried them yet.

Or maybe I should wrap the old stopper with something? Saran wrap?
Deerskin?

>So I assume you don't have a lint trap on the drain hose of any of those
>washers. Perhaps you should give it a try just to see. I think you'd be
>surprised how much lint is produced from each load of wash. I'm not saying
>it has to be cleaned after every wash but there is a fair amount produced
>each time.
>
>I stopped using the end-of-hose mesh style traps because of the problems I
>had when they did eventually get filled up. The pump on my front loader is
>pretty powerful. When the lint trap would get filled up, the water would
>start shooting out of the trap in all directions. Most of those directions
>were not down into the utility sink. Eventually it would blow the trap off
>of the hose

LOL

>where it would then often block the sink drain.

LOL

>The front
>loader doesn't use enough water to overflow even one side of the double
>utility sink, but the spray from the filled trap got the floor and walls
>wet and then I had to reach into the dirty water to find the trap and
>retrieve it.

Pardon me for laughing

>Now that I used the plastic in-the-drain filter, those problems are
>eliminated.

I may get one of those. Priority now is to fid a stopper that fits.

[Tekkie®]

micky posted for all of us...

And I know how to SNIP

> Or maybe I should wrap the old stopper with something? Saran wrap?
> Deerskin?
>

Condoms - used & re-vulcanized

--
Tekkie

[pharmtechdon]

replying to 2 door, pharmtechdon wrote:
Filter the washing machine rinse out water because it WILL contain lint that
will clog your floor drain. A filter can be cleaned out much easier and
cheaper than the floor drain

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[hrho...@att.net]

On Friday, June 4, 2010 at 7:42:07 PM UTC-5, Harry Avant wrote:
> I would like to add a lint filter to the drain on my washing machine.
> I've found a few but all state they are for use with drains running
> into a laundry sink and NOT standpipe drains. My washing machine drain
> hooks onto the top of a three foot high plastic pipe since there is no
> sink in the area. Questions: why can't I use a mesh sock type screen
> in this situation and is there anything designed specifically for this
> type application?

What has changed in the last two years????

[Ed Pawlowski]

The OP has shaved his pubic hair and now there is less stuff from his
underwear clogging the drain.

[Uncle Monster]

Do you know how to tell the difference between new porn and old porn movies? In the new porn movies, the actors don't have pubic hair stuck in their teeth. ^_^

[8~{} Uncle Hairy Monster

[Tekkie®]

Ed Pawlowski posted for all of us...

No crotch critters?

--
Tekkie

[rsimon]

replying to Harry Avant, rsimon wrote:
To answer those asking why one needs to block the hair/lint coming from a
washing machine when you don't have a laundry sink, I just had my washing
machine drain pipe unclogged.. There was so much dog hair and sludge in it -
it overflowed into my wetbar sink and on the floor. Rotorooter came out and
got rid of the clog but I would really like to find a solution to ensure all
the dog hair in my laundry doesn't clog it again

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[Ed Pawlowski]

On 8/6/2017 1:44 PM, rsimon wrote:
> replying to Harry Avant, rsimon wrote:
> To answer those asking why one needs to block the hair/lint coming from a
> washing machine when you don't have a laundry sink, I just had my washing
> machine drain pipe unclogged.. There was so much dog hair and sludge in
> it -
> it overflowed into my wetbar sink and on the floor. Rotorooter came
> out and
> got rid of the clog but I would really like to find a solution to ensure
> all
> the dog hair in my laundry doesn't clog it again
>

Vacuum the dog. Anything you put before the standpipe may cause more
problems than it solves.

It would take a lot of dog hair to clog the drain. You may have other
issued causing the hair to get caught up in the pipe.
Can you run a wire down the standpipe every three months? How far down
the drain was the clog?

[Oren]

On Sun, 06 Aug 2017 17:44:02 GMT, rsimon
<caedfaa9ed1216d60ef...@example.com> wrote:

> Rotorooter came out and
>got rid of the clog but I would really like to find a solution to ensure all
>the dog hair in my laundry doesn't clog it again

Shave the dog?

[Terry Coombs]

Oh , yeah , I'm sure Max (70+ lb Mountain Cur) would stand still for
that ! He doesn't even like to be brushed .

--

Snag

[Oren]

On Sun, 6 Aug 2017 15:17:43 -0500, Terry Coombs <snag...@msn.com>
wrote:

My hound dog hates a vacuuming. He runs to me when the bride is on
her episode. It hurts his ears. Sum beach is smart.

[rbowman]

On 08/06/2017 02:49 PM, Oren wrote:
> My hound dog hates a vacuuming. He runs to me when the bride is on
> her episode. It hurts his ears. Sum beach is smart.

She tries to vacuum the dog? Okay. I used to have flea clinics for the
cats. They can't do much when you pick them up by the scruff of the neck
and spray them down except promise all sorts of mayhem to come with
their eyes.

[Oren]

On Sun, 6 Aug 2017 14:57:29 -0600, rbowman <bow...@montana.com> wrote:

>On 08/06/2017 02:49 PM, Oren wrote:
>> My hound dog hates a vacuuming. He runs to me when the bride is on
>> her episode. It hurts his ears. Sum beach is smart.
>
>She tries to vacuum the dog? O

No. not at all. He hates the damn noise. His ears are very sensitive.
I have the same empathy for him.

[Uncle Monster]

I used to use a little shop-vac to vacuum the fleas off my dog. It would do a reverse raspberry on his belly and his leg would start going like it would when I rubbed his belly in the right spot. I made sure there was bug poison in the vacuum bag to kill the fleas when they were imprisoned in the bag. I have friends who's cats also like to be vacuumed. Critters is funny! ヽ(ヅ)ノ

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ax5uPRZ8Zjw

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=63xWsWuH-eI

[8~{} Uncle Vacuumed Monster