OT: Floyd footage leaked

[T]

He said he could not breath while still in the cop car


Body Cam Footage of George Floyd Encounter Leaked

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8576371/Police-bodycam-footage-shows-moment-moment-arrest-George-Floyd-time.html


The two officers then walk Floyd to the squad car and the struggle
really begins when Floyd refuses to get in, saying he has claustrophobia.

He falls to the ground. 'Stand up. Stop falling down,' Kueng shouts.
'Stay on your feet and face the car door.'

'Please man. Don't leave me by myself man, please. I'm just claustrophobic.'

'Well you're still going in the car,' Lane says.

'Y'all, I am going to die in here,' Floyd protests. 'I'm going to die,
man. I just had COVID, man. I don't want to go back to that.'

Lane offers to roll the cruiser's windows down to help his phobia but
Floyd still struggles. 'I'm scared as f***,' he says.

A bystander tells Floyd to calm down because he cannot win in the
situation he is in. 'I don't want to win,' Floyd says. 'I'm
claustrophobic and I've got anxiety. I don't want to do nothing to them.'

While still in the car, Floyd says for the first time the line that has
become synonymous with his death. 'I can't breathe.' Shortly afterwards
Chauvin and Thao arrive on the scene.

The officers finally get him in the squad car and close the rear
driver's side door behind him, but for a reason that is not clear from
the video, Floyd comes out of the passenger side door still struggling.

Within seconds he is lying on the sidewalk with Chauvin's knee pressed
on his neck and Lane and Kueng helping to restrain him.

He says he can't breathe over and over again and calls for his 'momma'
but his voice slowly gets weaker as his life drains away.

'Tell my kids I love them. I'm dead,' he says at one point.

[Hawk]

It's not possible. It's all a lie and edited video. Floyd was a gentle
man who never resisted and fully cooperated. He wouldn't hurt anyone and
should be a martyr. BLM says so, it must be true. All the rioters and
protesters can't be wrong. (◔_◔)


Fact: He resisted the moment they opened his vehicle door and continued
throughout the entire ordeal. The ONLY questionable move was why he was
removed from the cop vehicle and brought to the ground when he was
already in cuffs. They should have just left him inside, rolled windows
down and closed doors.

[Joe Friday]

On 8/4/20 1:26 AM, T wrote:
> He said he could not breath while still in the cop car
>
>
> Body Cam Footage of George Floyd Encounter Leaked
>
> https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8576371/Police-bodycam-footage-shows-moment-moment-arrest-George-Floyd-time.html

Resisting arrest is risky business no matter how much melanin your skin has.  It never ends well.

Throw in some heart disease, hypertension, sickle cell trait, fentanyl, methamphetamine and cigarettes and you got one foot on a banana peel and the other in the grave.

One thing for certain, if George had been white, this would have been just another COVID death.

[trader_4]

On Tuesday, August 4, 2020 at 6:15:23 AM UTC-4, Hawk wrote:
> It's not possible. It's all a lie and edited video. Floyd was a gentle
> man who never resisted and fully cooperated. He wouldn't hurt anyone and
> should be a martyr. BLM says so, it must be true. All the rioters and
> protesters can't be wrong. (◔_◔)
>
>
> Fact: He resisted the moment they opened his vehicle door and continued
> throughout the entire ordeal.

I would characterize it more as not cooperating, as opposed to resisting
arrest. I haven't seem him being physical, just argumentative.

The ONLY questionable move was why he was
> removed from the cop vehicle and brought to the ground when he was
> already in cuffs. They should have just left him inside, rolled windows
> down and closed doors.

Well, duh. That is the whole problem, what the police did at the end.
From all I've seen so far, nothing he did justified the extreme step
Chauvin took and continued for 9 mins, including after Floyd had lost
consciousness.

I do agree that it's clearly lib media bias with them not reporting all the
facts, including that Floyd was not cooperating and had a high level of
fentanyl in his system, plus meth and pot. Another example of lib media
bias, NBC showed this latest video, pointing out that one officer had his
gun out as they were getting Floyd out of his vehicle, as if that showed
some bad intent or bias. They were on a call for Floyd passing counterfeit
money, that's a FELONY. They had to approach him in his car, it's a felony
stop at that point. NBC can't be so stupid that they don't know how a
felony stop is handled. Typically cops have their guns trained on the
subjects, ordering them out of the car, to lie face down in the street, etc.
Nothing the cops did up until the end was out of line. And if the lib media
wants to save black lives, they should be sending the message that Floyd
was wrong here too, that he should have complied, that you should not escalate
an arrest into a volatile, toxic situation, because then it's more likely
something bad is going to happen.

[Snag]

And there he would have also died . Coroners reportedly said that he
had a several-times lethal amount of fentanyl in his system ...
--
Snag

[FromTheRafters]

After serious thinking Hawk wrote :

I suspect he was subdued bacause he was about to injure himself in the
vehicle, but these things should come out in the trial. I also suspect
he was suffering some lingering effects of his COVID-19 disease because
the clerk mentioned that he wasn't acting right even when he was
passing the fake money, and his 'breathing problem' complaint was long
before the subdual and he had complained many many times about it.

I don't like how people (worldwide) call it murder before the facts are
known. Even the news services which are (or were) quick to say things
like "The suspect took off and allegedly crashed into a police
vehicle..." -- throwing the word allegedly in there in the wrong places
in attempts to cover their asses in case the suspect was found to be
innocent and tries to sue them. Now they get right out there and call
the cops muderers just because there are protests riots which depend
upon it being murder for their legitimacy.

[rbowman]

On 08/04/2020 04:17 AM, Hawk wrote:
> Fact: He resisted the moment they opened his vehicle door and continued
> throughout the entire ordeal. The ONLY questionable move was why he was
> removed from the cop vehicle and brought to the ground when he was
> already in cuffs. They should have just left him inside, rolled windows
> down and closed doors.

I'm curious how he popped out of the passenger side door. Any cop car
I've been in didn't provide door handles for the convenience of rear
seat passengers.

[Peeler]

On Tue, 4 Aug 2020 07:54:36 -0600, lowbrowwoman, the endlessly driveling,
troll-feeding, senile idiot, blabbered again:

> I'm curious how he popped out of the passenger side door. Any cop car
> I've been in didn't provide door handles for the convenience of rear
> seat passengers.

HOW did you get in a cop car? Were you buttonholing a cop, senile
blabbermouth?

[Roger Oveur]

CANDACE OWENS on NEW George Floyd Body Cam Footage!!!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5lmrGa6Nlpo

And after hearing Candace's comment on fentanyl, I'm convinced Derek Chauvin and other officers should not be charged.

[Bob F]

These are not the only charges he faces. Nice guy.

https://www.startribune.com/fired-minneapolis-officer-derek-chauvin-wife-charged-with-tax-crimes/571864051/

[Grumpy Old White Guy]

Totally irrelevant!

As a tax payer, I can attest that IRS forms are very confusing and it's easy to make an error.  Besides, tax errors have nothing to do with the Floyd's arrest.  Good grief!

--
Demolitioncrats are destroying America!

[T]

The officer should have not put his knee on Floyd's neck.
Although, I now have my doubts that was the cause of death.

[Hawk]

Then it would have exonerated the cops. Too bad he used his knee.

[Hawk]

Guilty until proven innocent. It's the new American way.

[Hawk]

True that. They're made for that reason.

[Hawk]

Agreed. If they would have left him in the vehicle and he died, the cops
would still have jobs.

[Hawk]

Consider the source, Grumpy. Bob's liberal idiocy will grasp at any set
of testicles to try to place blame to fit his agenda. He's not the
brightest bulb in the pack.

[T]

Floyd was complaining about claustrophobia and breathing
issues. They open a windows for him, but that did not
stop the complaining. The cops may have let him out to
be nice to him. If it had not been for the stupid
knee ...

[rbowman]

He was following departmental protocol. I have asked before and have
never gotten a good answer to the question of how you restrain a large,
strong suspect who is in some sort of altered state. Given Floyd's
problems tasing him might have killed him with a lot less drama.

There was another 'I can't breathe' death that came from a female
officer kneeling on the suspect's back.

[rbowman]

Some of them even have grilles over the rear window so you can't kick it
out and rabbit. In hindsight they should have thrown Floyd into the
cruiser and let him bounce around until he stopped moving.

[T]

Bob does it on purpose. He knows what he is doing

[Peeler]

On Tue, 4 Aug 2020 19:16:35 -0600, lowbrowwoman, the endlessly driveling,

troll-feeding, senile idiot, blabbered again:

>> True that. They're made for that reason.
>
> Some of them even have grilles over the rear window so you can't kick it
> out and rabbit.

Oh, if only you had some sort of grill over your mouth, senile blabbermouth!

[Peeler]

On Tue, 4 Aug 2020 19:13:20 -0600, lowbrowwoman, the endlessly driveling,

troll-feeding, senile idiot, blabbered again:

> He was following departmental protocol. I have asked before and have
> never gotten a good answer to the question of how you restrain a large,
> strong suspect who is in some sort of altered state. Given Floyd's
> problems tasing him might have killed him with a lot less drama.
>
> There was another 'I can't breathe' death that came from a female
> officer kneeling on the suspect's back.

I suspect kneeling on your neck might be the only way to stop you from
driveling ...or may be it won't? LOL

[Hawk]

You're providing him with far too much credit.

[T]

He is just following Rules for Radicals

[Neill Massello]

Hawk <Ha...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Agreed. If they would have left him in the vehicle and he died, the cops
> would still have jobs.

Maybe. George Floyd's death was mostly a pretext for an organized
campaign of public intimidation. Even if he'd died from obviously
self-inflicted injuries, the Bolsheviks who control BLM and Antifa might
still have pushed the launch button.

[Hawk]

They will always find a reason to push the button, that was just a prime
opportunity because it was a white cop on black citizen. They ignore the
constant black on black crime partaking on a daily basis, along with
black on white crime because it doesn't fit their agenda. They play the
game to rile the lemmings who follow suit and it works, at least for a
short period of time. Suckers and idiots are born every minute but I
think there was a serious overbearing influx within the GenX and
millennial generation.

[Hawk]

In other words, the common lemming.

[rbowman]

There are plenty of dead black felons to choose from.

[Peeler]

On Wed, 5 Aug 2020 19:11:48 -0600, lowbrowwoman, the endlessly driveling,

troll-feeding, senile idiot, blabbered again:

>>> Agreed. If they would have left him in the vehicle and he died, the cops
>>> would still have jobs.
>>
>> Maybe. George Floyd's death was mostly a pretext for an organized
>> campaign of public intimidation. Even if he'd died from obviously
>> self-inflicted injuries, the Bolsheviks who control BLM and Antifa might
>> still have pushed the launch button.
>>
>
> There are plenty of dead black felons to choose from.

But there's no way to stop you from babbling! LOL

[trader_4]

On Tuesday, August 4, 2020 at 7:49:24 AM UTC-4, Snag wrote:

> On 8/4/2020 5:17 AM, Hawk wrote:
> > It's not possible. It's all a lie and edited video. Floyd was a gentle
> > man who never resisted and fully cooperated. He wouldn't hurt anyone and
> > should be a martyr. BLM says so, it must be true. All the rioters and
> > protesters can't be wrong. (◔_◔)
> >
> >

> > Fact: He resisted the moment they opened his vehicle door and continued
> > throughout the entire ordeal. The ONLY questionable move was why he was
> > removed from the cop vehicle and brought to the ground when he was
> > already in cuffs. They should have just left him inside, rolled windows
> > down and closed doors.
> >
>

> And there he would have also died . Coroners reportedly said that he
> had a several-times lethal amount of fentanyl in his system ...

> --
> Snag

I only saw that he had what could be a lethal amount for someone who's
not a regular user, who has not built up a tolerance. If his death was
due to the fentanyl, the coroner would have determined that.

[trader_4]

On Tuesday, August 4, 2020 at 8:05:29 AM UTC-4, FromTheRafters wrote:
> After serious thinking Hawk wrote :

> > It's not possible. It's all a lie and edited video. Floyd was a gentle man
> > who never resisted and fully cooperated. He wouldn't hurt anyone and should
> > be a martyr. BLM says so, it must be true. All the rioters and protesters
> > can't be wrong. (◔_◔)
> >
> >
> > Fact: He resisted the moment they opened his vehicle door and continued
> > throughout the entire ordeal. The ONLY questionable move was why he was
> > removed from the cop vehicle and brought to the ground when he was already in
> > cuffs. They should have just left him inside, rolled windows down and closed
> > doors.
>

> I suspect he was subdued bacause he was about to injure himself in the
> vehicle, but these things should come out in the trial. I also suspect
> he was suffering some lingering effects of his COVID-19 disease because
> the clerk mentioned that he wasn't acting right even when he was
> passing the fake money, and his 'breathing problem' complaint was long
> before the subdual and he had complained many many times about it.
>
> I don't like how people (worldwide) call it murder before the facts are
> known.

You suppose it could be because of the 9 min video? That nothing could
justify what;s seen? That even the new recruit told Chauvin that he was
concerned about excited delirium, yet Chauvin continued with his knee
to the neck, even when Floyd was no longer conscious?

[trader_4]

That's a good one, even for you. The cops may have been "being nice".

[trader_4]

On Tuesday, August 4, 2020 at 6:55:48 AM UTC-4, Joe Friday wrote:
> On 8/4/20 1:26 AM, T wrote:
> > He said he could not breath while still in the cop car
> >
> >
> > Body Cam Footage of George Floyd Encounter Leaked
> >
> > https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8576371/Police-bodycam-footage-shows-moment-moment-arrest-George-Floyd-time.html
>
>
> Resisting arrest is risky business no matter how much melanin your skin has.  It never ends well.

I don't think what we see Floyd doing comes even near "resisting arrest".
IMO, it's unlikely he would have been charged with that or convicted.
I'd say he wasn't being fully cooperative, but that's not resisting.
And he was saying he was claustrophobic, could have been having a panic
attack, which are medical conditions. These cops are supposed to be trained
professionals who know how to deal with that, without killing people.
Sadly, the new recruit was the best of the bunch. He warned Chauvin that
he was concerned about excited delirium. I'm sure now Chauvin wishes he
had listened.




>
> Throw in some heart disease, hypertension, sickle cell trait, fentanyl, methamphetamine and cigarettes and you got one foot on a banana peel and the other in the grave.
>
> One thing for certain, if George had been white, this would have been just another COVID death.

[trader_4]

When a Trump enabler says consider the source, it's quite laughable.
Trump is the most prolific liar and moron on the planet, yet you
cheerfully accept and defend the latest lies and BS from that "source".

[Grumpy Old White Guy]

It appears to me that your TDS has entered Stage 4.  My sincerest condolences to you.

[T]

I think he sees his apparatchik status as making
him a safe member of the future nomenklatura.
I don't think he realizes that the top dogs
consider him a "useful idiot" and he will be
in the first wave of their blood bath.

[T]

Stage 5 is mumbling and drooling. No?

[Bob F]

And your TTS is in full control of your every action.

[T]

Do you have a fever?

[FromTheRafters]

on 8/6/2020, trader_4 supposed :

> On Tuesday, August 4, 2020 at 8:05:29 AM UTC-4, FromTheRafters wrote:
>> After serious thinking Hawk wrote :
>>> It's not possible. It's all a lie and edited video. Floyd was a gentle man
>>> who never resisted and fully cooperated. He wouldn't hurt anyone and should
>>> be a martyr. BLM says so, it must be true. All the rioters and protesters
>>> can't be wrong. (◔_◔)
>>>
>>>
>>> Fact: He resisted the moment they opened his vehicle door and continued
>>> throughout the entire ordeal. The ONLY questionable move was why he was
>>> removed from the cop vehicle and brought to the ground when he was already
>>> in cuffs. They should have just left him inside, rolled windows down and
>>> closed doors.
>>
>> I suspect he was subdued bacause he was about to injure himself in the
>> vehicle, but these things should come out in the trial. I also suspect
>> he was suffering some lingering effects of his COVID-19 disease because
>> the clerk mentioned that he wasn't acting right even when he was
>> passing the fake money, and his 'breathing problem' complaint was long
>> before the subdual and he had complained many many times about it.
>>
>> I don't like how people (worldwide) call it murder before the facts are
>> known.
>
> You suppose it could be because of the 9 min video?

Yes, because it doesn't tell the whole story.

[Neill Massello]

Snag <snag...@msn.com> wrote:

> And there he would have also died . Coroners reportedly said that he
> had a several-times lethal amount of fentanyl in his system ...

And heart disease.

<https://int.nyt.com/data/documenthelper/6992-george-floyd-full-autopsy/4c5bdf52fbbd775ce156/optimized/full.pdf>