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Kate

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Jul 14, 2010, 1:02:07 AM7/14/10
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Hi All,

My Dad is loaning me his 1989 Dodge Ram, the sports model so it is not a
huge truck, to haul concrete and posts, etc. for a new vinyl gate and
fence. I just finished gating in one end of my back yard, but now am
ready to do the other end.

I need 15 bags of pre-mixed concrete. Each bag weighs 60 pounds.
Can this little truck handle 900 pounds?

I sure don't want to risk damaging this truck. You may get a chuckle
out of it, but Dad keeps it spit shined, and it only has 21,000 miles on
it. The only thing I really miss in it is that there are no air bags.

I will be hauling the concrete 24 miles from my home.

Thanks for your help.

Kate

IGot2P

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Jul 14, 2010, 1:08:41 AM7/14/10
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On 7/14/2010 12:02 AM, Kate wrote:
> Hi All,
>
> My Dad is loaning me his 1989 Dodge Ram, the sports model so it is not a
> huge truck, to haul concrete and posts, etc. for a new vinyl gate and
> fence. I just finished gating in one end of my back yard, but now am
> ready to do the other end.
>
> I need 15 bags of pre-mixed concrete. Each bag weighs 60 pounds.
> Can this little truck handle 900 pounds?

Yes, it can definitely handle 900 lbs plus some.

Don

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Tony

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Jul 14, 2010, 2:28:07 AM7/14/10
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Most likely it will be OK. Ask Dad if it's a 1/2 ton truck. If so
legally you can carry a total of 1000#, but in real life you can go a
little over that. Keep in mind you add all of the load including driver
and passengers and all that stuff behind the seat.

mike

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Jul 14, 2010, 2:51:28 AM7/14/10
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You might wanna be kind to the object of your dad's affection.
Spend $6 and make two trips.

I once piled the trunk of an older, but low mileage car with all
my belongings and moved cross country. Blew the seals out of the
shock absorbers.

mm

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Jul 14, 2010, 3:10:03 AM7/14/10
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Not the same, but I put a cargo carrier on the back of my Lebaron
Connvertible, via the trailer hitch receiver, and then put 10 or 15
pieces of semi-dry sod on it. Made the mistake of doing it while the
car door was open and then I couldn't shut the door. Car bent in the
middle. Had to put half of the sod in the backseat, and then it was
okay. I drove slow.

Steve Barker

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Jul 14, 2010, 6:35:58 AM7/14/10
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the "1/2 ton" nomenclature has nothing to do with carrying capacity.

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Steve Barker

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Jul 14, 2010, 6:37:20 AM7/14/10
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the way you loaded it had nothing to do with the shocks starting to
leak. They are designed to work properly all along their full stroke.

Jay Hanig

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Jul 14, 2010, 7:00:11 AM7/14/10
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On 7/14/2010 6:35 AM, Steve Barker wrote:

>> Most likely it will be OK. Ask Dad if it's a 1/2 ton truck. If so
>> legally you can carry a total of 1000#, but in real life you can go a
>> little over that. Keep in mind you add all of the load including driver
>> and passengers and all that stuff behind the seat.
>
> the "1/2 ton" nomenclature has nothing to do with carrying capacity.
>

I beg to differ. It has everything to do with carrying capacity, as
long as you understand the weight of the driver and passengers are to be
considered part of the payload (as the previous poster wrote).


The bottom line is what the owner's manual says it can carry. in 1989,
there were D100, D150 (both half ton), D250 (3/4 ton) and D350 (one ton)
models.

Newer Rams can carry more than their designation would suggest but
that's an '89 model.

Jay

ransley

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Jul 14, 2010, 7:56:00 AM7/14/10
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Its nearly 22 years old so go easy on it, sure it can take 1/2 ton
total weight with passengers if its a 1/2 ton- 1000 lb but old metal
and rubber parts get weak, is there any rust on this 22 yr old then be
even more carefull, do it in 2-3 loads 3 is better on rough roads Ive
broken springs and bushings with only a few hundred pounds hitting a
bump and city driving in cars. Im not sure if fuel is part of the load
rating, but im pretty sure people are.

George

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Jul 14, 2010, 8:42:27 AM7/14/10
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The vehicle is >20 years old. If it were a beater no one cared about
then load it up. Since it isn't making two trips might be a plan.

LSMFT

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Jul 14, 2010, 9:00:07 AM7/14/10
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I can haul a pallet (one ton) of pellets on my Nissian Frontier with no
problem. That's 2000 lbs. Even better now since I added 1500lb spring
boosters.

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I don't like to interrupt her.

ransley

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Jul 14, 2010, 9:13:02 AM7/14/10
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> I don't like to interrupt her.- Hide quoted text -
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Brakes are big part of ratings, sure you can haul 2000lb but it wont
stop well, get in an accident thats your fault and your weight could
be a charge of negligence.

The Post Quartermaster

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Jul 14, 2010, 9:17:36 AM7/14/10
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"ransley" <Mark_R...@Yahoo.com> wrote in message
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"Half ton" used to mean that there was a payload of 1000 lbs. What it
means now, who knows? But I would think 900 lbs would be at the high
end of what you can carry. The cost to make two trips will be a lot
less than the cost of having to replace shocks and whatever else might
go wrong.

ransley

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Jul 14, 2010, 9:34:01 AM7/14/10
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On Jul 14, 8:17 am, "The Post Quartermaster"
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> "ransley" <Mark_Rans...@Yahoo.com> wrote in message
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I think gasolene , spare tire, and people were never part of the
rating, so a half ton with 2 -200lb passengers, 20 gallon of gas and a
50 lb tire can only carry 450 lb and be at 1/2 ton, I had a full size
blazer that would sag badly with 2-300 lbs and at 22 years and dads
pristine toy I would not risk a heavy load, im sure it would be fine
but ive broken my cars and trucks.

Red Green

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Jul 14, 2010, 9:52:09 AM7/14/10
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Kate <katen...@nwi.net> wrote in
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20 yrs old? 21K miles!

Sounds like a gem. Considering that, what might be considered wasteful
may be wise. Two trips might be a warm fuzzy. Since you are driving 24
miles just for concrete which can be got most anywhere, I can assume
there's not a nearby HD/Lowes where you can get a truck for $20/75min?

> I sure don't want to risk damaging this truck.

The only way to be sure is not to use it.

If you take it be aware with some vehicles they will start to sway at
higher speeds when loaded.

Also, that usually harmless pothole/bump/whatever can do some nasty
things when loaded.

My story: An old 1/2T pickup I loaded up with bags of concrete. It was
more than 15. Went well. Next inspection I had a cracked leaf spring.

Another thought is take dad on a road trip. Spend some time with him. At
least if anything goes wrong you won't feel so bad like it's neglect on
your part.

Harry K

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Jul 14, 2010, 9:52:48 AM7/14/10
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I'll stay out of the load rating but...

Due to it being a cherry rig, be sure to pad the bed. Sacks of that
stuff leak a bit and will leave scratches and lots of dust in an
unprotected bed.

Harry K

terry

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Jul 14, 2010, 10:18:07 AM7/14/10
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> Harry K- Hide quoted text -

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Good idea; put a cheap 'tarp' in the back under the bags to catch the
dust.

A half ton truck can presumably handles 1000 pounds easily.

BTW 900 pounds is roughly four, not extremely obese, people.

keith

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Jul 14, 2010, 10:27:12 AM7/14/10
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On Jul 14, 1:28 am, Tony <tony.mik...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Kate wrote:
> > Hi All,
>
> > My Dad is loaning me his 1989 Dodge Ram, the sports model so it is not a
> > huge truck, to haul concrete and posts, etc. for a new vinyl gate and
> > fence.  I just finished gating in one end of my back yard, but now am
> > ready to do the other end.
>
> > I need 15 bags of pre-mixed concrete.  Each bag weighs 60 pounds.
> > Can this little truck handle 900 pounds?
>
> > I sure don't want to risk damaging this truck.  You may get a chuckle
> > out of it, but Dad keeps it spit shined, and it only has 21,000 miles on
> > it.  The only thing I really miss in it is that there are no air bags.
>
> > I will be hauling the concrete 24 miles from my home.

Unless the frame is totally gone, 900lbs should be a walk in the part
(for the truck, anyway).


>
> Most likely it will be OK.  Ask Dad if it's a 1/2 ton truck.  If so
> legally you can carry a total of 1000#, but in real life you can go a
> little over that.  Keep in mind you add all of the load including driver
> and passengers and all that stuff behind the seat.

"Half-ton" is the class, not the cargo rating. You'll likely find
that the cargo rating is 1500lbs, or even more (mine's 1750lbs, IIRC).

h

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Jul 14, 2010, 10:59:55 AM7/14/10
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"terry" <tsan...@nf.sympatico.ca> wrote in message
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>BTW 900 pounds is roughly four, not extremely obese, people.

225lbs IS extremely obese for most people. Unless it's a very
athletic/muscular man over 6' tall. It's 75-110lbs overweight for women.


Bill

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Jul 14, 2010, 11:14:05 AM7/14/10
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> Brakes are big part of ratings, sure you can haul 2000lb but it wont
> stop well, get in an accident thats your fault and your weight could
> be a charge of negligence.
>

True!

FYI - 1/2 ton means nothing! I had a 1/2 ton with a cargo weight rating of
800 lbs. The same truck with different factory options could carry more than
1/2 ton. Depends on how the truck was ordered and built!

The weight rating can be found on a label on the driver's door or in the
glove compartment typically. This is the weight rating for THAT specific
truck.

The weight rating is not just how much weight the truck can hold, rather it
is how much weight it can hold and still be driven SAFELY. This means
braking when going downhill (and not having the brakes fail), turning
corners and not rolling over, being able to suddenly brake and turn to avoid
a kid running out in the street, etc.

Also if you load a vehicle with too much weight, the wheel bearings can get
wrecked. Axles, bearings, wheels, and tires have weight ratings as well.


Nonny

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Jul 14, 2010, 11:28:40 AM7/14/10
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> I had 15 bags of sakrete in a 86 LeBaron. I did put "Low Rider"
> on the
> MP3 player when I was leaving Home Depot.
>
> That is less than a half ton, what the smallest pickups are
> rated for

It'll be fine, Kate. It's a good idea, though, to have them stack
the bags of mix toward the front of the truck's bed to equalize
the load a bit.

Nonny

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LSMFT

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Jul 14, 2010, 11:44:11 AM7/14/10
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Stops just fine.

Caesar Romano

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Jul 14, 2010, 12:09:18 PM7/14/10
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On Wed, 14 Jul 2010 08:28:40 -0700, "Nonny" <Nu...@gmail.com> wrote Re
Re: How Much Concrete Can A Pickup Carry?:

>> I had 15 bags of sakrete in a 86 LeBaron. I did put "Low Rider"
>> on the
>> MP3 player when I was leaving Home Depot.
>>
>> That is less than a half ton, what the smallest pickups are
>> rated for
>
>It'll be fine, Kate. It's a good idea, though, to have them stack
>the bags of mix toward the front of the truck's bed to equalize
>the load a bit.

+1 on that. You won't have any problem with that load.
--
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notbob

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Jul 14, 2010, 12:20:34 PM7/14/10
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On 2010-07-14, Bill <billnoma...@yahoo.com> wrote:

> Also if you load a vehicle with too much weight, the wheel bearings can get
> wrecked. Axles, bearings, wheels, and tires have weight ratings as well.

Bingo!!

Look at a real 3/4 ton rear axle, then your 1/2 ton rear axle.
Whole different animal. As for tires, you betchya! I was once
stopped and cited in a company gravel truck because the FRONT TIRES!
were not the proper ply/weight rating.

nb

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willshak

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Jul 14, 2010, 12:46:14 PM7/14/10
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Kate wrote the following:

> Hi All,
>
> My Dad is loaning me his 1989 Dodge Ram, the sports model so it is not
> a huge truck, to haul concrete and posts, etc. for a new vinyl gate
> and fence. I just finished gating in one end of my back yard, but now
> am ready to do the other end.
>
> I need 15 bags of pre-mixed concrete. Each bag weighs 60 pounds.
> Can this little truck handle 900 pounds?
>
> I sure don't want to risk damaging this truck. You may get a chuckle
> out of it, but Dad keeps it spit shined, and it only has 21,000 miles
> on it. The only thing I really miss in it is that there are no air bags.
>
> I will be hauling the concrete 24 miles from my home.
>
> Thanks for your help.
>
> Kate

Look on the sticker on the drivers door frame. The load limit will be
posted there.

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Stormin Mormon

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Jul 14, 2010, 2:08:16 PM7/14/10
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Essentialy my thought. It's within the weight rating, but make two
trips.

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ransley

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Jul 14, 2010, 2:58:31 PM7/14/10
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On Jul 14, 12:02 am, Kate <katenos...@nwi.net> wrote:
> Hi All,
>
> My Dad is loaning me his 1989 Dodge Ram, the sports model so it is not a
> huge truck, to haul concrete and posts, etc. for a new vinyl gate and
> fence.  I just finished gating in one end of my back yard, but now am
> ready to do the other end.
>
> I need 15 bags of pre-mixed concrete.  Each bag weighs 60 pounds.
> Can this little truck handle 900 pounds?
>
> I sure don't want to risk damaging this truck.  You may get a chuckle
> out of it, but Dad keeps it spit shined, and it only has 21,000 miles on
> it.  The only thing I really miss in it is that there are no air bags.
>
> I will be hauling the concrete 24 miles from my home.
>
> Thanks for your help.
>
> Kate

How old are the tires and what type, be sure to inflate them cold to
just under the maximum, if the are 89 or have visable rot forget the
trip.

Tony

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Jul 14, 2010, 3:27:32 PM7/14/10
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So what does it mean?

Larry Fishel

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Jul 14, 2010, 4:22:54 PM7/14/10
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Since I don't think anyone's mentioned it yet, put the load as far
forward in the bed as possible and it will handle a little better
(less sway).

However...if you're concerned about having that much weight near the
center of the frame (I don't know whether you should or not) then
either spread it out and drive slowly or make two trips and load it
forward.

keith

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Jul 14, 2010, 4:22:58 PM7/14/10
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What does any marketing term mean?

cl...@snyder.on.ca

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Jul 14, 2010, 4:48:12 PM7/14/10
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On Tue, 13 Jul 2010 23:51:28 -0700, mike <spa...@go.com> wrote:

>Kate wrote:
>> Hi All,
>>
>> My Dad is loaning me his 1989 Dodge Ram, the sports model so it is not a
>> huge truck, to haul concrete and posts, etc. for a new vinyl gate and
>> fence. I just finished gating in one end of my back yard, but now am
>> ready to do the other end.
>>
>> I need 15 bags of pre-mixed concrete. Each bag weighs 60 pounds.
>> Can this little truck handle 900 pounds?
>>
>> I sure don't want to risk damaging this truck. You may get a chuckle
>> out of it, but Dad keeps it spit shined, and it only has 21,000 miles on
>> it. The only thing I really miss in it is that there are no air bags.
>>
>> I will be hauling the concrete 24 miles from my home.
>>
>> Thanks for your help.
>>
>> Kate

>You might wanna be kind to the object of your dad's affection.
>Spend $6 and make two trips.
>
>I once piled the trunk of an older, but low mileage car with all
>my belongings and moved cross country. Blew the seals out of the
>shock absorbers.

Just load the 900 lbs forward in the box to spread the load between
the axles and Bob's your uncle.

cl...@snyder.on.ca

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Jul 14, 2010, 4:50:09 PM7/14/10
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On Wed, 14 Jul 2010 05:35:58 -0500, Steve Barker
<ichase...@notgmail.com> wrote:

>On 7/14/2010 1:28 AM, Tony wrote:
>> Kate wrote:
>>> Hi All,
>>>
>>> My Dad is loaning me his 1989 Dodge Ram, the sports model so it is not
>>> a huge truck, to haul concrete and posts, etc. for a new vinyl gate
>>> and fence. I just finished gating in one end of my back yard, but now
>>> am ready to do the other end.
>>>
>>> I need 15 bags of pre-mixed concrete. Each bag weighs 60 pounds.
>>> Can this little truck handle 900 pounds?
>>>
>>> I sure don't want to risk damaging this truck. You may get a chuckle
>>> out of it, but Dad keeps it spit shined, and it only has 21,000 miles
>>> on it. The only thing I really miss in it is that there are no air bags.
>>>
>>> I will be hauling the concrete 24 miles from my home.
>>>
>>> Thanks for your help.
>>>
>>> Kate
>>

>> Most likely it will be OK. Ask Dad if it's a 1/2 ton truck. If so
>> legally you can carry a total of 1000#, but in real life you can go a
>> little over that. Keep in mind you add all of the load including driver
>> and passengers and all that stuff behind the seat.
>
>the "1/2 ton" nomenclature has nothing to do with carrying capacity.

What does it have to do with then?
A half ton truck has a MINIMUM of 1000 lb carrying capacity - usually
1200 or more.

cl...@snyder.on.ca

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Jul 14, 2010, 4:50:58 PM7/14/10
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On Wed, 14 Jul 2010 05:37:20 -0500, Steve Barker
<ichase...@notgmail.com> wrote:

>On 7/14/2010 1:51 AM, mike wrote:
>> Kate wrote:
>>> Hi All,
>>>
>>> My Dad is loaning me his 1989 Dodge Ram, the sports model so it is not
>>> a huge truck, to haul concrete and posts, etc. for a new vinyl gate
>>> and fence. I just finished gating in one end of my back yard, but now
>>> am ready to do the other end.
>>>
>>> I need 15 bags of pre-mixed concrete. Each bag weighs 60 pounds.
>>> Can this little truck handle 900 pounds?
>>>
>>> I sure don't want to risk damaging this truck. You may get a chuckle
>>> out of it, but Dad keeps it spit shined, and it only has 21,000 miles
>>> on it. The only thing I really miss in it is that there are no air bags.
>>>
>>> I will be hauling the concrete 24 miles from my home.
>>>
>>> Thanks for your help.
>>>
>>> Kate

>> You might wanna be kind to the object of your dad's affection.
>> Spend $6 and make two trips.
>>
>> I once piled the trunk of an older, but low mileage car with all
>> my belongings and moved cross country. Blew the seals out of the
>> shock absorbers.
>

>the way you loaded it had nothing to do with the shocks starting to
>leak. They are designed to work properly all along their full stroke.
But they are NOT designed to go full stroke all the time.

cl...@snyder.on.ca

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Jul 14, 2010, 4:56:12 PM7/14/10
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Virtually every "half ton" truck on the road today will handle a full
ton of payload if properly distributed and driven sensibly on
reasonable road surfaces. Handling will not be fantastic, and you need
to drive carefully to avoid having to do panic stops -
but 900 lbs will definitely not hurt any half ton truck in reasonable
condition under normal on-road driving conditions.

dpb

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Jul 14, 2010, 5:11:51 PM7/14/10
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Tony wrote:
...
> ... Ask Dad if it's a 1/2 ton truck. If so
> legally you can carry a total of 1000#, ...

There is no state that I'm aware of that has load tag limits on
light-duty trucks other than the highway axle limits that are far beyond
what OP's asking to carry so legality is not going to an issue whatsoever.

The overall vehicle weight rating is the limiting limit but there's a
lot of conservatism in them compared to reality.

The possible actual limiting factor for an old truck w/ almost no miles
_MIGHT_ be the condition of the tires--are they still original or have
they been replaced sometime in a relatively recent time frame?

The actual GVWR for the actual vehicle will be on a plate on the door
column or in the glove box or somewhere else on the vehicle. If it's
this pristine, there's likely the OEM book in the glove box as well.

As for the half-, 3/4-ton, etc., it is as someone noted, only a class
rating that distinguishes basic group of
axles/suspension/transmission/engine packages available. Each
manufacturer is a little different but each tries to out-spec the other
by a few pounds in their ratings for advertising purposes so they can
tout "highest payload" and so they leapfrog each other from one model
year to another.

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cl...@snyder.on.ca

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Jul 14, 2010, 5:21:44 PM7/14/10
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The front tires on a gravel truck carry a large portion of the
weight.
The gross vehicle weight for a D100, which is the lightest Dodge
pickup except for the Mitsubishi supplied D50, ranges from 4001 to
5000 lbs depending on equipment.
If it is a short box 6 cyl the curb weight is 2745 - and GVW is
4001,so the minimum payload capacity would be (4001-2745=)1256 lbs.
If it is an 8 foot box V8, curb weight is 3909 and GVW is 5000 lbs,
so payload is (5000-3909=) 1091 lbs..

This is on BASE MODEL D100 trucks - extra GVW options were also
available.
D150 would handle higher GVW (but is likely also a bit heavier empty)

Red Green

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Jul 14, 2010, 6:19:07 PM7/14/10
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Many moons ago I opened back slider window with mulch in the back. Mulch
storm in the cab.

Steve Barker

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Jul 14, 2010, 6:23:28 PM7/14/10
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The suspension stops will not allow the shocks to bottom out.

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Steve Barker

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Jul 14, 2010, 6:25:17 PM7/14/10
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On 7/14/2010 6:00 AM, Jay Hanig wrote:

> On 7/14/2010 6:35 AM, Steve Barker wrote:
>
>>> Most likely it will be OK. Ask Dad if it's a 1/2 ton truck. If so
>>> legally you can carry a total of 1000#, but in real life you can go a
>>> little over that. Keep in mind you add all of the load including driver
>>> and passengers and all that stuff behind the seat.
>>
>> the "1/2 ton" nomenclature has nothing to do with carrying capacity.
>>
>
>
>
> I beg to differ. It has everything to do with carrying capacity, as long
> as you understand the weight of the driver and passengers are to be
> considered part of the payload (as the previous poster wrote).
>
>
> The bottom line is what the owner's manual says it can carry. in 1989,
> there were D100, D150 (both half ton), D250 (3/4 ton) and D350 (one ton)
> models.
>
> Newer Rams can carry more than their designation would suggest but
> that's an '89 model.
>
>
>
> Jay


You can beg all you want, the fact is that a so called "1/2 ton" truck
can carry a whole lot more than 1000 lbs and all you have to do is look
at the payload ratings for the truck to see that. The nomenclature of
1/2, 3/4 etc etc is a throwback to very early years of trucks. It has
nothing to do with payload capacities today.

s

Steve Barker

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Jul 14, 2010, 6:29:15 PM7/14/10
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It doesn't mean anything. The only place the word is used is in laymens
conversations. It's not mentioned in mfgr's literature.

Steve B

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Jul 14, 2010, 7:07:58 PM7/14/10
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>>Hi All,
>>
>>My Dad is loaning me his 1989 Dodge Ram, the sports model so it is not a
>>huge truck, to haul concrete and posts, etc. for a new vinyl gate and
>>fence. I just finished gating in one end of my back yard, but now am
>>ready to do the other end.
>>
>>I need 15 bags of pre-mixed concrete. Each bag weighs 60 pounds.
>>Can this little truck handle 900 pounds?
>>
>>I sure don't want to risk damaging this truck. You may get a chuckle
>>out of it, but Dad keeps it spit shined, and it only has 21,000 miles on
>>it. The only thing I really miss in it is that there are no air bags.
>>
>>I will be hauling the concrete 24 miles from my home.
>>
>>Thanks for your help.
>>
>>Kate

One day when you are bored, fill it with gas and two people, one driver, one
passenger, and take it to the local truck stop and have it weighed. Lots of
them will do it free. Get that weight stub. Now, look at your door plate
for GCVWR, or gross combined vehicle weight rating, which is the total
weight for the truck and everything you can put in it before it breaks.
That, for future reference is the MAXIMUM amount the truck can carry. It is
always good to do just 75% of that.

HTH

Steve

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Jul 14, 2010, 7:15:41 PM7/14/10
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"The Post Quartermaster" <quartermaster...@postfiftyone.org>
wrote

The cost to make two trips will be a lot


> less than the cost of having to replace shocks and whatever else might go
> wrong.

Well, then, fifteen trips should be VERY safe.

Steve


Oren

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Jul 14, 2010, 7:21:12 PM7/14/10
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On Wed, 14 Jul 2010 22:19:07 GMT, Red Green <postm...@127.0.0.1>
wrote:

>Many moons ago I opened back slider window with mulch in the back. Mulch
>storm in the cab.

Don't you just hate that?!

Bill

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Jul 14, 2010, 8:52:05 PM7/14/10
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>> the "1/2 ton" nomenclature has nothing to do with carrying capacity.
>
> So what does it mean?
>

At one time it did mean 1/2 ton, but that was a long time ago. Now it is
just a marketing word. Sort of like "dialing" a number on a phone, we now
"press" numbers, yet still call it dialing. (FYI - For you young whipper
snappers, phones at one time had a dial on them as well as a wire connecting
them to the wall.)

Trucks have all sorts of options you can order. Different transmissions,
axles, springs, wheels, etc. Here is a list of GM options for example...
http://www.angelfire.com/ny2/96transam/rpocodes.html

For large cities and "vanity" trucks people drive around in without a
scratch, no one ever uses these to haul anything, so they frequently have
the lowest weight ratings. But in a rural area where they are using the
trucks for hauling anything and everything, they want hauling capacity and
that is what the dealers order and have on the lots.


Bill

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Jul 14, 2010, 9:03:32 PM7/14/10
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> A half ton truck has a MINIMUM of 1000 lb carrying capacity - usually
> 1200 or more.
>

Go to a truck lot and look at the labels on the drivers door on the various
trucks...

I used to have a 81 Ford F-100 "1/2 ton" pick-up which had a cargo weight
rating of 800 lbs - label on the driver's door...

I now have a "3/4 ton" pick-up which has a weight rating of 1900 lbs (label
on the door). I have this truck because I got tired of replacing the rear
bearings on the "1/2 ton" truck...


Tony

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Jul 14, 2010, 9:32:28 PM7/14/10
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Larry Fishel wrote:
> Since I don't think anyone's mentioned it yet, put the load as far
> forward in the bed as possible and it will handle a little better
> (less sway).

Or put it directly over the rear axle.

Tony

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Jul 14, 2010, 9:33:25 PM7/14/10
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About a half a ton of bull and a whole ton of shit.

Kate

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Jul 14, 2010, 9:56:33 PM7/14/10
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On 7/13/2010 10:02 PM, Kate wrote:
> Hi All,
>
> My Dad is loaning me his 1989 Dodge Ram, the sports model so it is not a
> huge truck, to haul concrete and posts, etc. for a new vinyl gate and
> fence. I just finished gating in one end of my back yard, but now am
> ready to do the other end.
>
> I need 15 bags of pre-mixed concrete. Each bag weighs 60 pounds.
> Can this little truck handle 900 pounds?
>
> I sure don't want to risk damaging this truck. You may get a chuckle out
> of it, but Dad keeps it spit shined, and it only has 21,000 miles on it.
> The only thing I really miss in it is that there are no air bags.
>
> I will be hauling the concrete 24 miles from my home.
>
> Thanks for your help.
>
> Kate
Wow, thanks everyone for all the great posts. I even got some good
chuckles.

My problem has been solved, thanks to Dear Dad.

This morning he had the air in the tires checked, filled the truck up
with gas, and brought home 15 sixty-pound bags of concrete. Then he
said, "Here you go, it is a gift". He got it in town, one mile from
home, whereas I was going to go to Ziggy's where I have to go tomorrow
night to pick up the rest of the vinyl gate/fence material. My plan was
to fill the truck up with gas on my way home. I will still use the
truck for the rest of the material, but I owe my parents a very nice
dinner in the near future.

My parents are the best, and everyone here is too.

Many thanks.

Kate

I was pl

Red Green

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Jul 15, 2010, 9:31:08 AM7/15/10
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Kate <katen...@nwi.net> wrote in
news:i1lpsi$8r2$1...@news.eternal-september.org:


He gave you the pickup? No, guess not huh... :-)

k...@att.bizzzzzzzzzzzz

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Jul 15, 2010, 7:48:36 PM7/15/10
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Oh. You're in marketing.

zxcvbob

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Jul 15, 2010, 8:52:05 PM7/15/10
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FWIW, I had an old Chevy 3/4 ton pickup and I used to carry about 2000
to 3000 pounds in it fairly regularly. I put 4600# in it once, but the
steering got kind of squirrely (brakes were still fine; it had huge
brakes.) The actual limit is usually the tires. With a 3/4 ton truck,
if you do overload it and break an axle they are easy to replace and you
don't even have to unload the truck. With a 1/2 ton truck, if you break
an axle you are in deep doo-doo.

Your little truck probably should handle 1000 pounds just fine if you
air the tires up to the maximum pressure that's stamped on the
sidewalls, but I can't really say because I can't see your tires from
here.

Put heavy loads towards the front of the cab so the front tires share
some of the weight. That also keeps them from shifting if you have to
slam on the brakes.

Buy your dad a nice steak dinner. :-)

Bob

cl...@snyder.on.ca

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Jul 15, 2010, 9:31:09 PM7/15/10
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On Wed, 14 Jul 2010 17:23:28 -0500, Steve Barker
<ichase...@notgmail.com> wrote:

Won't stop them from fully extending though. A heavy load makes LONG
rebounds.

cl...@snyder.on.ca

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Jul 15, 2010, 9:33:28 PM7/15/10
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On Wed, 14 Jul 2010 21:32:28 -0400, Tony <tony....@gmail.com>
wrote:

Definitely NOT the proper way to load a truck close to the limit.

cl...@snyder.on.ca

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Jul 15, 2010, 9:40:33 PM7/15/10
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On Thu, 15 Jul 2010 19:52:05 -0500, zxcvbob <zxc...@charter.net>
wrote:

Pop hauled 2 tons of firewood on his F150 several times without
incident - but once, with the tires at the "recommended" pressure, and
on a bit of a side-hill in slightly soft ground, he rolled all 4 tires
off the rim at once. - and called ME to get him out of his fix. Jacked
it up with a HandiMan jack, removed the wheels and re-inflated them to
50PSI, put them back on, and away he went.

He had a Toyota "heavy Half" that almost always had over a ton and a
half on it for 6 years - and my old man has a heavy foot too. One
wheel bearing failure in those 6 years. It had a "barn" on the back
made of 1/2 inch plywood, and was always loaded to the gills with
rolls of copper wire and other electrical supplies, and several heavy
duty ladders on the roof.

Tony

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Jul 15, 2010, 11:40:41 PM7/15/10
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Yes you are right. But it does reduce sway a lot. I was thinking of
the reason they put the 5th wheel hitch over the rear axle. But that is
a whole other story. My bad.

cl...@snyder.on.ca

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Jul 16, 2010, 8:02:16 PM7/16/10
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On Thu, 15 Jul 2010 23:40:41 -0400, Tony <tony....@gmail.com>
wrote:

They put the fifth wheel over the axle because putting it forward of
the axle is difficult.. Weight between the axles is a stabilizing
influence, while outside the axles, either for or aft, has a very
"polar" effect.

kimber

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Mar 5, 2023, 2:45:09 PM3/5/23
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I had a 1968 Ford F100, rated half ton, I hauled 3,300 pounds of limestone gravel, but I didn;t have far to go, that lil sucker handled it like a champ.. I would not tried to go 24 miles, though.

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