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Advice needed for wallpaper/crown moulding job in bath

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Gabrielle Uz

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Apr 29, 1998, 3:00:00 AM4/29/98
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I am redoing my bathroom and will be installing crown moulding,
wallpaper and new ceiling paint. My walls are not exactly flat and
there will be some gaps between tht crown moulding and the walls that I
will have to caulk (and then paint the same color as the crown
moulding). My question is...

Do I first install the crown moulding, then caulk the gaps, then install
the wallpaper and cut it at the moulding/caulk OR

Do I first install the wallpaper, then install the moulding over it,
caulk and paint the moulding and caulk?

Which way comes out neater and starighter?

Thank you in advance. Please respond to rol...@corjobs.com

Bret A. Schuhmacher

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Apr 29, 1998, 3:00:00 AM4/29/98
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Gabrielle Uz <g...@corjobs.com> writes:


> Do I first install the crown moulding, then caulk the gaps, then install
> the wallpaper and cut it at the moulding/caulk OR
>
> Do I first install the wallpaper, then install the moulding over it,
> caulk and paint the moulding and caulk?
>
> Which way comes out neater and starighter?

I'd paint the moulding *first* (in the garage). Install the wallpaper
all the way to the ceiling, cut moulding to fit, install the moulding,
caulk, and then touch it up as needed. Use a paint fence to keep from
painting the ceiling.

I would definitely *not* paint the moulding in place on the wall,
especially with wallpaper up.

The only question I really have is whether to cut the moulding to fit
before or after I painted it. If you cut it to fit first, make sure
you mark them all on the back so you don't get them confused when you
go to install. This is probably the best route - all your joints will
have painted edges and hide better.

Rgds,

Bret
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We are all in the gutter, but some of us are looking at the stars.
-- Oscar Wilde

ACT FORMS

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Apr 29, 1998, 3:00:00 AM4/29/98
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Wrong! Install the molding, caulk, fill the nail holes, prime and paint it
with the ceiling. Then install the wallpaper and cut it tight against the
molding with a long drywall blade. The wall will look straighter that way even
if it is way out in spots because you can manipulate the cut of the paper to
hide this.

WMB

Michel Gagnon

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Apr 29, 1998, 3:00:00 AM4/29/98
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Gabrielle Uz <g...@corjobs.com> wrote:

> I am redoing my bathroom and will be installing crown moulding,
> wallpaper and new ceiling paint. My walls are not exactly flat and
> there will be some gaps between tht crown moulding and the walls that I
> will have to caulk (and then paint the same color as the crown
> moulding). My question is...
>

> Do I first install the crown moulding, then caulk the gaps, then install
> the wallpaper and cut it at the moulding/caulk OR
>
> Do I first install the wallpaper, then install the moulding over it,
> caulk and paint the moulding and caulk?
>
> Which way comes out neater and starighter?
>

> Thank you in advance. Please respond to rol...@corjobs.com

I would treat wallpaper like any paint: apply it afterwards. It will be
neater and it will also be easier to replace later.

Another option for bulges in the wall is to file or sand a few portions
of the moulding where they occur.
--
Michel Gagnon -- Montréal (Québec, Canada)
Michel...@videotron.ca

Robert Allison

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Apr 29, 1998, 3:00:00 AM4/29/98
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Gabrielle Uz wrote:

> I am redoing my bathroom and will be installing crown moulding,
> wallpaper and new ceiling paint. My walls are not exactly flat and
> there will be some gaps between tht crown moulding and the walls that I
> will have to caulk (and then paint the same color as the crown
> moulding). My question is...
> Do I first install the crown moulding, then caulk the gaps, then install
> the wallpaper and cut it at the moulding/caulk OR
> Do I first install the wallpaper, then install the moulding over it,
> caulk and paint the moulding and caulk?
> Which way comes out neater and starighter?
> Thank you in advance. Please respond to rol...@corjobs.com

Howdy,
If your wall is that wavy, why don't you float out the low spots with
drywall mud? You don't have to do the whole wall, just up near the top
where the crown is going. Most of the time, you can pull the crown mold to
the wall when nailing, then touch up with caulk. Then paint, then
wallpaper. Wall paper is always last IMHO, because it is the hardest to
"touch up", so I want everything else done first.

--
Robert Allison robert2...@ix.netcom.com
Rimshot, Inc.
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NOSPAMBOB

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Apr 30, 1998, 3:00:00 AM4/30/98
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Some have recommended cutting the back of the crown so the saw kerf allows some
flexibility it wouldn't have otherwise. I just did this in our family room and
it works. Make several cuts ~1/4" apart.

In article <3547C14F...@ix.netcom.com>, Robert Allison
<robert2...@ix.netcom.com> writes:

> Most of the time, you can pull the crown mold to
>the wall when nailing, then touch up with caulk.


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David Winslow

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May 1, 1998, 3:00:00 AM5/1/98
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Gabrielle Uz wrote in message <354739...@corjobs.com>...


>I am redoing my bathroom and will be installing crown moulding,
>wallpaper and new ceiling paint. My walls are not exactly flat and
>there will be some gaps between tht crown moulding and the walls that I
>will have to caulk (and then paint the same color as the crown
>moulding). My question is...
>
>Do I first install the crown moulding, then caulk the gaps, then install
>the wallpaper and cut it at the moulding/caulk OR
>
>Do I first install the wallpaper, then install the moulding over it,
>caulk and paint the moulding and caulk?
>
>Which way comes out neater and starighter?
>
>Thank you in advance. Please respond to rol...@corjobs.com

Why would you do all that work without correcting the fundamental problem?
Why not level the wall or ceiling with mud first, so that no caulking etc.
is needed? This would be a permanent correcting where chalk would shrink
and crack.

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