Best glue for bonding plastic to plastic?

[sz...@hotmail.com]

Hi,

Our daughter has this little doll wheel chair that the leg broke off
of. The leg has a wheel and it is a pretty big piece that broke off
but it fits very tightly when I put it together where it broke off and
there are actually 2 pieces that broke off and join together and I
think it would glue together nicely because the pieces are at right
angles and I would be gluing two pieces together, not one.

The pieces are round and about 1/4 inch in diameter. They just
snapped off but they fit together perfectly when I put it together.
Just needs a good glue to hold it in place. I guess I would have to
sit there and hold it in place for a while, or figure out a way to use
a rubber band or something to hold it together while the glue dried.

It's an expensive little accessory which is why I'm not just going out
and buying a new one.

I was reading on this page:

http://www.technologystudent.com/equip1/glueplas1.htm

And it mentions 5 different types of glues for gluing plastic
together.

Tensol Cement, Contact adhesive, Epoxy, Super Glue, or A glue gun.

I've never had much luck using Super Glue so I would lean towards one
of the other glues. I think a glue gun might be the same as epoxy,
but now really sure about that.

Contact adhesive seems like a good choice based on what I read but I
have no experience using it.

I would appreciate any suggestions for the best glue for my job.

Thanks in advance,
Steve

[hr(bob) hofmann@att.net]

I would try the superglue, maybe a gel type if you have trouble using
the regular runny stuff. A glue gun might work, but the glue around
the joints would be very obviious, Contact adhesive is generally IME
great for paper and cloth, but not for plastics.

[gordonshumway]

On Fri, 2 Sep 2011 18:30:36 -0700 (PDT), "sz...@hotmail.com"
<sz...@hotmail.com> wrote:

>
>I was reading on this page:
>
>http://www.technologystudent.com/equip1/glueplas1.htm
>
>And it mentions 5 different types of glues for gluing plastic
>together.
>
>Tensol Cement, Contact adhesive, Epoxy, Super Glue, or A glue gun.
>
>I've never had much luck using Super Glue so I would lean towards one
>of the other glues. I think a glue gun might be the same as epoxy,
>but now really sure about that.
>
>Contact adhesive seems like a good choice based on what I read but I
>have no experience using it.
>
>I would appreciate any suggestions for the best glue for my job.
>
>Thanks in advance,
>Steve

First, let me say that the advice I am about to give is worth every
penny you are paying for it.

Hot glue is definitely NOT the same as epoxy.

The type of glue you need is dependant on what type of plastic you are
trying to repair. One glue that works great with, for example,
styrene, may work only marginally with PVC. Therefore, without
knowing what type of plastic the item is made of we would have no idea
what glue would be the best for the application.

Good luck.

[WW]

<sz...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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I would drill a small hole in each part that a small nail (cut off the head)
would fit into both parts for added strength and then use JB Weld epoxy. 24
hour cure stuff NOT the 5 minute type. I have had good luck doing it this
way on plastic. Be sure to clean the parts first with alcohol. WW

[Ed Pawlowski]

<sz...@hotmail.com> wrote in message

> Hi,
>
> Our daughter has this little doll wheel chair that the leg broke off
> of. The leg has a wheel and it is a pretty big piece that broke off
> but it fits very tightly when I put it together where it broke off and
> there are actually 2 pieces that broke off and join together and I
> think it would glue together nicely because the pieces are at right
> angles and I would be gluing two pieces together, not one.

Depends on the type of plastic. If it is styrene based, any solvent/ketone
glue or just plain acetone will work. If it is polyethylene based, toss it
out as no glue will hold on it. You can also try heat welding it together.
Get both pieces hot enough on the mating surfaces to just start melting,
then press the two pieces together.

>
> I was reading on this page:
>
> http://www.technologystudent.com/equip1/glueplas1.htm
>
> And it mentions 5 different types of glues for gluing plastic
> together.

Poorly written. Unless you know the material, it is just BS. There are
thousands of plastic compounds. Some glue easily, others won't glue together
at all.

[aemeijers]

I have NEVER had any joy gluing plastic that was structural in
application. If the glue joint (properly cured) didn't break first time
stress was put on it, it broke right next to it for the same reasons it
broke in the first place. IMHO, the joint needs a splint, like by
heating up a skinny nail and shoving it through both pieces, or finding
some other way to reinforce it. The break point sounds like a stress
point. OP, can you post pictures someplace with a link back here? If we
can see it, we can make better suggestions.

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[Frank]

On 9/3/2011 12:32 AM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>
> <sz...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>> Hi,
>>
>> Our daughter has this little doll wheel chair that the leg broke off
>> of. The leg has a wheel and it is a pretty big piece that broke off
>> but it fits very tightly when I put it together where it broke off and
>> there are actually 2 pieces that broke off and join together and I
>> think it would glue together nicely because the pieces are at right
>> angles and I would be gluing two pieces together, not one.
>
> Depends on the type of plastic. If it is styrene based, any
> solvent/ketone glue or just plain acetone will work. If it is
> polyethylene based, toss it out as no glue will hold on it. You can also
> try heat welding it together. Get both pieces hot enough on the mating
> surfaces to just start melting, then press the two pieces together.
>
>

>> Poorly written. Unless you know the material, it is just BS. There are
> thousands of plastic compounds. Some glue easily, others won't glue
> together at all.
>

I would combine your and WW's advice.
Your plastic comment is right on plus the area being high stress could
use reinforcement.

[jeff_wisnia]

If you know what type of plastic you're trying to bond, then try:

http://www.thistothat.com/

Jeff

Jeffry Wisnia
(W1BSV + Brass Rat '57 EE)
The speed of light is 1.8*10e12 furlongs per fortnight.

[tom]

<sz...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:b7a791ca-693c-4ddb...@i9g2000yqk.googlegroups.com...

> Hi,
>
> Our daughter has this little doll wheel chair that the leg broke off
> of. The leg has a wheel and it is a pretty big piece that broke off
> but it fits very tightly when I put it together where it broke off and
> there are actually 2 pieces that broke off and join together and I
> think it would glue together nicely because the pieces are at right
> angles and I would be gluing two pieces together, not one.

I find this simple, effective and cheap.

http://www.dap.com/product_details.aspx?BrandID=61&SubcatID=10

[Jim Yanik]

Gordon Shumway wrote in news:pr53671v2s7qhg3dd...@4ax.com:

don't forget construction adhesive,like Liquid Nails.
it bonds to some plastics.

contact adhesive probably would make the best bond,generally speaking.
3M makes this brown rubber adhesive in a tube,it bonds well to a lot of
plastics,but I can't recall specifically which one it is.

--
Jim Yanik
jyanik
at
localnet
dot com

[willshak]

sz...@hotmail.com wrote the following:

http://www.harborfreight.com/catalogsearch/result?q=plastic+welder

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[willshak]

sz...@hotmail.com wrote the following:

[DanG]

Steve, I would look for a piece of tubing or pipe that made a good
outside diameter fit. It can be plastic or metal. Perhaps a section of
ball point pen barrel. No glues will work on such a small contact
surface and there are far too many types of plastic to expect anyone
here to outguess what it is. Many toys use some type of thermal
plastic, none of which lend themselves to glues.

I would go with the external splint and epoxy to make a good fit.

[George]

I have used this with success:

http://www.loctiteproducts.com/p/epxy_plstc_s/overview/Loctite-Epoxy-Plastic-Bonder.htm

[larry moe 'n curly]

sz...@hotmail.com wrote:
>
> Our daughter has this little doll wheel chair that the leg broke off
> of. The leg has a wheel and it is a pretty big piece that broke off
> but it fits very tightly when I put it together where it broke off and
> there are actually 2 pieces that broke off and join together and I
> think it would glue together nicely because the pieces are at right
> angles and I would be gluing two pieces together, not one.

The best glue depends on what plastic you're gluing.

Plastics that are easy to glue are styrene (recycling triangle says
"PS"), ABS, and PVC, and CPVC, and they're best bonded with a solvent,
like lacquer thinner, brush-on liquid glue from a hobby shop,
carburetor/throttle body cleaning spray, or acetone. CPVC may need
CPVC plumbing pipe cement, and it will also work on PVC. Full
strength doesn't develop until about 48 hours, as I learned when I
tried to glue a truck tailgate handle 3 times. Polycarbonate can also
be glued with solvent, but if you get it wrong you have to remove the
affected surfaces and start all over. Don't use super glue on these
plastics because solvent gives a much better bond.

Hard polyester can be glued fairly well with epoxy (the slow-cure type
usually works better) and maybe super glue.

Plastics that can't be glued well at all include polypropylene (PP),
polyethylene (PE or HDPE), nylon, delrin, and acetal (lots of plumbing
parts), and even polycarbonate, but they can be melted back together
with a soldering iron or wood burning iron. The latter is better than
a soldering iron if it has a nonstick tip (Teflon coated). Cut a
scrap from the same plastic you're trying to fix so it will serve as
filler, like welding rod does.

For something structural like a leg attached to a wheel, maybe you
should insert a wooden dowel coated with epoxy (for a mechanical
repair, rather than a glue bond) before joining the broken plastic
pieces together.

[theen...@gmail.com]

My 27" Barbie dolls arm is broken off and I have tried hot glue gun and e6000. Neither worked. It is hard plastic. How can I fix? I have photos but don't know to upload to here.

[Frank]

On 1/29/2019 11:58 AM, theen...@gmail.com wrote:
> My 27" Barbie dolls arm is broken off and I have tried hot glue gun and e6000. Neither worked. It is hard plastic. How can I fix? I have photos but don't know to upload to here.
>

Google says plastic is PVC so a glue for PVC should work.

[Bod]

> It's not quite as simple as that.


There are seven types of plastic:

Polyethylene Terephthalate (PETE or PET)
High-Density Polyethylene (HDPE)
Polyvinyl Chloride (PVC)
Low-Density Polyethylene (LDPE)
Polypropylene (PP)
Polystyrene or Styrofoam (PS)

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[Rod Speed]

"Bod" <bodr...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message
news:gbbi0q...@mid.individual.net...

> On 29/01/2019 17:15, Frank wrote:
>> On 1/29/2019 11:58 AM, theen...@gmail.com wrote:
>>> My 27" Barbie dolls arm is broken off and I have tried hot glue gun and
>>> e6000. Neither worked. It is hard plastic. How can I fix? I have
>>> photos but don't know to upload to here.
>>>
>>
>> Google says plastic is PVC so a glue for PVC should work.
> >
> > It's not quite as simple as that.
>
>
> There are seven types of plastic:
>
> Polyethylene Terephthalate (PETE or PET)
> High-Density Polyethylene (HDPE)
> Polyvinyl Chloride (PVC)
> Low-Density Polyethylene (LDPE)
> Polypropylene (PP)
> Polystyrene or Styrofoam (PS)

There's a lot more than that.

[Bod]

> Name them!

[Bod]

On 29/01/2019 19:30, Bod wrote:
> On 29/01/2019 19:15, Rod Speed wrote:
>>
>>
>> "Bod" <bodr...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message
>> news:gbbi0q...@mid.individual.net...
>>> On 29/01/2019 17:15, Frank wrote:
>>>> On 1/29/2019 11:58 AM, theen...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>>> My 27" Barbie dolls arm is broken off and I have tried hot glue gun
>>>>> and e6000.  Neither worked.  It is hard plastic.  How can I fix? I
>>>>> have photos but don't know to upload to here.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Google says plastic is PVC so a glue for PVC should work.
>>> >
>>> > It's not quite as simple as that.
>>>
>>>
>>> There are seven types of plastic:
>>>
>>> Polyethylene Terephthalate (PETE or PET)
>>> High-Density Polyethylene (HDPE)
>>> Polyvinyl Chloride (PVC)
>>> Low-Density Polyethylene (LDPE)
>>> Polypropylene (PP)
>>> Polystyrene or Styrofoam (PS)
>>
>> There's a lot more than that.
> >
> > Name them!
>

> Here's a cite:

https://www.qualitylogoproducts.com/promo-university/different-types-of-plastic.htm

["\"Re...@home.com]

On 1/29/19 2:41 PM, Bod wrote:
> On 29/01/2019 19:30, Bod wrote:
>> On 29/01/2019 19:15, Rod Speed wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> "Bod" <bodr...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message
>>> news:gbbi0q...@mid.individual.net...
>>>> On 29/01/2019 17:15, Frank wrote:
>>>>> On 1/29/2019 11:58 AM, theen...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>>>> My 27" Barbie dolls arm is broken off and I have tried hot glue
>>>>>> gun and e6000.  Neither worked.  It is hard plastic.  How can I
>>>>>> fix? I have photos but don't know to upload to here.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Google says plastic is PVC so a glue for PVC should work.
>>>> >
>>>> > It's not quite as simple as that.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> There are seven types of plastic:
>>>>
>>>> Polyethylene Terephthalate (PETE or PET)
>>>> High-Density Polyethylene (HDPE)
>>>> Polyvinyl Chloride (PVC)
>>>> Low-Density Polyethylene (LDPE)
>>>> Polypropylene (PP)
>>>> Polystyrene or Styrofoam (PS)
>>>
>>> There's a lot more than that.
>>  >
>>  > Name them!
>>
> > Here's a cite:
>
> https://www.qualitylogoproducts.com/promo-university/different-types-of-plastic.htm
>

Per Wikipedia cite, "A modern Barbie doll has a body made from ABS
plastic, while the head is made from soft PVC.[59][60]"

[Rod Speed]

"Bod" <bodr...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message

news:gbbnuu...@mid.individual.net...

> On 29/01/2019 19:15, Rod Speed wrote:
>>
>>
>> "Bod" <bodr...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message
>> news:gbbi0q...@mid.individual.net...
>>> On 29/01/2019 17:15, Frank wrote:
>>>> On 1/29/2019 11:58 AM, theen...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>>> My 27" Barbie dolls arm is broken off and I have tried hot glue gun
>>>>> and e6000. Neither worked. It is hard plastic. How can I fix? I
>>>>> have photos but don't know to upload to here.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Google says plastic is PVC so a glue for PVC should work.
>>> >
>>> > It's not quite as simple as that.
>>>
>>>
>>> There are seven types of plastic:
>>>
>>> Polyethylene Terephthalate (PETE or PET)
>>> High-Density Polyethylene (HDPE)
>>> Polyvinyl Chloride (PVC)
>>> Low-Density Polyethylene (LDPE)
>>> Polypropylene (PP)
>>> Polystyrene or Styrofoam (PS)
>>
>> There's a lot more than that.

> Name them!

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plastic

[Rod Speed]

"Bod" <bodr...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message

news:gbboiu...@mid.individual.net...

> On 29/01/2019 19:30, Bod wrote:
>> On 29/01/2019 19:15, Rod Speed wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> "Bod" <bodr...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message
>>> news:gbbi0q...@mid.individual.net...
>>>> On 29/01/2019 17:15, Frank wrote:
>>>>> On 1/29/2019 11:58 AM, theen...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>>>> My 27" Barbie dolls arm is broken off and I have tried hot glue gun
>>>>>> and e6000. Neither worked. It is hard plastic. How can I fix? I
>>>>>> have photos but don't know to upload to here.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Google says plastic is PVC so a glue for PVC should work.
>>>> >
>>>> > It's not quite as simple as that.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> There are seven types of plastic:
>>>>
>>>> Polyethylene Terephthalate (PETE or PET)
>>>> High-Density Polyethylene (HDPE)
>>>> Polyvinyl Chloride (PVC)
>>>> Low-Density Polyethylene (LDPE)
>>>> Polypropylene (PP)
>>>> Polystyrene or Styrofoam (PS)
>>>
>>> There's a lot more than that.
>> >
> > Name them!
>>
> Here's a cite:
>
> https://www.qualitylogoproducts.com/promo-university/different-types-of-plastic.htm

Pity about the last one in that list.

[Wade Garrett]

Kinda' doubt Barbie is PVC ;-)

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[Frank]

I just took it from a quick google search so you must be correct. Both
ABS and PVC are easy to bond and same cements would probably work for
both as solvents are similar. We had this discussion on PVC and CPVC and
it was agreed the best glue to use would be one designed for it whereas
others could be adequate. The toughest polymers to bond listed here are
PET the PE's and PP.

There are a hell of a lot more commercial polymers not listed above and
bonding conditions are different.

[trader_4]

On Tuesday, January 29, 2019 at 11:58:20 AM UTC-5, theen...@gmail.com wrote:
> My 27" Barbie dolls arm is broken off and I have tried hot glue gun and e6000. Neither worked. It is hard plastic. How can I fix? I have photos but don't know to upload to here.

Crazy glue works for me.

[Oren]

On Tue, 29 Jan 2019 18:35:30 -0500, Wade Garrett <wa...@cooler.net>
wrote:

>Kinda' doubt Barbie is PVC ;-)

Maybe so. She is still plastic...

[micky]

In alt.home.repair, on Tue, 29 Jan 2019 12:15:06 -0500, Frank <"frank

PVC might be plastic, but not all plastic is PVC. There are hundreds,
probably thousands of kinds of plastic. No special reason to think a
Barbie doll is made from PVC.

[micky]

In alt.home.repair, on Wed, 30 Jan 2019 07:28:00 +1100, "Rod Speed"

I'm not sure fiberglass is really a plastic. I think it only got listed
because it threatened to sue.

[Bod]

> Out of interest, is Gorilla glue any good? I've heard that it's
especially good for non porous surfaces.

[Rod Speed]

"micky" <NONONO...@bigfoot.com> wrote in message
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Corse it is.

> I think it only got listed because it threatened to sue.

Just another of your pathetic little drug crazed drunken fantasys.

[Clare Snyder]

On Tue, 29 Jan 2019 22:54:30 -0500, micky <NONONO...@bigfoot.com>
wrote:

"fiberglass" as in "fiberglass re-enforced plastic" can be polyester,
vinylester, or several; other plastics for the binder - or it can have
epoxy

[Clare Snyder]

On Wed, 30 Jan 2019 04:37:23 +0000, Bod <bodr...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:

>On 30/01/2019 00:26, trader_4 wrote:
>> On Tuesday, January 29, 2019 at 11:58:20 AM UTC-5, theen...@gmail.com wrote:
>>> My 27" Barbie dolls arm is broken off and I have tried hot glue gun and e6000. Neither worked. It is hard plastic. How can I fix? I have photos but don't know to upload to here.
>>
>>
>> Crazy glue works for me.
>>
> > Out of interest, is Gorilla glue any good? I've heard that it's
>especially good for non porous surfaces.

Which gorilla glue?? It's become a brand name - like wd40 - with
several almost totally unrelated products

The original "foaming" gorilla glue is a urethane glue and sticks to
just about anything

[Bod]

> Ah, thanks.

[Frank]

I missed the miscellaneous plastics part. The article says 7 but
miscellaneous could be nearly 100 others, maybe more. When you get into
reinforcements and blends there are thousands of possibilities. I
worked in fibers and plastics R&D and I should know.

[micky]

In alt.home.repair, on Wed, 30 Jan 2019 00:18:40 -0500, Clare Snyder

<cl...@snyder.on.ca> wrote:

>
>>>> Here's a cite:
>>>>
>>>> https://www.qualitylogoproducts.com/promo-university/different-types-of-plastic.htm
>>>
>>>Pity about the last one in that list.
>>
>>I'm not sure fiberglass is really a plastic. I think it only got listed
>>because it threatened to sue.

> "fiberglass" as in "fiberglass re-enforced plastic" can be polyester,
>vinylester, or several; other plastics for the binder - or it can have
>epoxy

Aha. I'd not heard of that. I thought it meant straight fiberglass.

[rbowman]

GRP, or glass reinforced plastic, would be less confusing but good luck
making that stick. I even get strange looks when I say RTV. (room
temperature vulcanizing silicone rubber).

Fiberglas (one s) was a Owens Corning patent name for glass wool and
became the generic name for glass wool, as in that insulation I
particularly hate. Then it was extended to GRP so a Corvette with
fiberglass body panels isn't pink and fluffy. Usually.

[Clare Snyder]

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Clare Snyder posted for all of us...

That will burn you up. Change of color without all the messy painting. Any
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