OT: Do You Put Grease On Your Brake Caliper Bracket?

[DerbyDad03]

Let's see if we can keep this simple and to the point. This really should
need nothing more than a Yes or No answer.

To those of you that work on your own brakes or work on brakes for a
living:

Do you put grease behind the pad clips in order to prevent rust build up
on the caliber mounting bracket?

I am specifically (and only) asking about greasing the area that is pointed
out in the following image:

https://www.topbrakes.com/images/brakeinstall/brake_change_caliper_bracket_rusty_big2.jpg

Thanks!

[Shade Tree Guy]

Only where the pad slides on the clip.
Often new pads come with new clips
STG

[Oren]

Yes. The caliper comes with a lube for the clip.

[Shade Tree Guy]

I think he's asking if disk brake grease is to be put between the bracket and clips. I say: "Not necessary"

[gfre...@aol.com]

+1
What he said

[Eagle]

DerbyDad03 was thinking very hard :

> Do you put grease behind the pad clips in order to prevent rust build up
> on the caliber mounting bracket?

No, I don't put grease on the caliber mounting bracket.
I do sometimes use copper grease on the pads though.

[Gordon Shumway]

On Wed, 15 Jun 2016 08:22:33 -0700 (PDT), DerbyDad03 <teama...@eznet.net> wrote:

No.

[DerbyDad03]

Yes, that is *exactly* what I am asking. I'm not asking about the
pad-tab/clip touch point, I'm asking about clip/bracket touch point.

[Stormin Mormon]

I suggest you also ask what the respondant's location,
and if road salt is an issue. Mechanics in Arizona
probably answer no, and salt and rust areas of the
country answer yes.

Me: Yes.
In NYS, where road salt is a major problem.

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Christopher A. Young
learn more about Jesus
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[mako...@yahoo.com]

> >
> > Do you put grease behind the pad clips in order to prevent rust build up
> > on the caliber mounting bracket?
>

I put grease there so that the parts can move freely as they are supposed to.

M

[cl...@snyder.on.ca]

On Wed, 15 Jun 2016 08:22:33 -0700 (PDT), DerbyDad03
<teama...@eznet.net> wrote:

Generally yes.

[cl...@snyder.on.ca]

On Wed, 15 Jun 2016 08:57:18 -0700 (PDT), DerbyDad03

<teama...@eznet.net> wrote:

>On Wednesday, June 15, 2016 at 11:51:33 AM UTC-4, Shade Tree Guy wrote:
>> On Wednesday, June 15, 2016 at 8:42:38 AM UTC-7, Oren wrote:
>> > On Wed, 15 Jun 2016 08:22:33 -0700 (PDT), DerbyDad03
>> > <teama...@eznet.net> wrote:
>> >
>> > >Let's see if we can keep this simple and to the point. This really should
>> > >need nothing more than a Yes or No answer.
>> > >
>> > >To those of you that work on your own brakes or work on brakes for a
>> > >living:
>> > >
>> > >Do you put grease behind the pad clips in order to prevent rust build up
>> > >on the caliber mounting bracket?
>> > >
>> > >I am specifically (and only) asking about greasing the area that is pointed
>> > >out in the following image:
>> > >
>> > >https://www.topbrakes.com/images/brakeinstall/brake_change_caliper_bracket_rusty_big2.jpg
>> > >
>> > >Thanks!
>> >
>> > Yes. The caliper comes with a lube for the clip.
>>
>> I think he's asking if disk brake grease is to be put between the bracket and clips. I say: "Not necessary"
>
>Yes, that is *exactly* what I am asking. I'm not asking about the
>pad-tab/clip touch point, I'm asking about clip/bracket touch point.

I generally put a light smudge of grease on all the "bearing points"
of the caliper/caliper frame/mounting assembly.

[Oren]

On Wed, 15 Jun 2016 10:53:33 -0500, Gordon Shumway
<Rho...@Planet.Melmac> wrote:

>>https://www.topbrakes.com/images/brakeinstall/brake_change_caliper_bracket_rusty_big2.jpg
>>
>>Thanks!
>
>No.

Yes.

[trader_4]

I follow the repair manual for the vehicle. Only one I've worked on in
quite awhile is BMW X5. It calls for brake lube, ie special grease, to be
put where you showed, plus a couple other spots.

[Gordon Shumway]

No.

[Oren]

On Wed, 15 Jun 2016 15:02:47 -0500, Gordon Shumway

<Rho...@Planet.Melmac> wrote:

>On Wed, 15 Jun 2016 12:22:08 -0700, Oren <Or...@127.0.0.1> wrote:
>
>>On Wed, 15 Jun 2016 10:53:33 -0500, Gordon Shumway
>><Rho...@Planet.Melmac> wrote:
>>
>>>>https://www.topbrakes.com/images/brakeinstall/brake_change_caliper_bracket_rusty_big2.jpg
>>>>
>>>>Thanks!
>>>
>>>No.
>>
>>Yes.
>
>No.

Yes I do. Make me change :)

[Gordon Shumway]

Yes I will!!

[Gordon Shumway]

I'm getting confused. Which one of us is advocating what?

[rbowman]

On 06/15/2016 09:22 AM, DerbyDad03 wrote:
> Do you put grease behind the pad clips in order to prevent rust build up
> on the caliber mounting bracket?

No.

[DerbyDad03]

Nothing moves in the area I am asking about.

[DerbyDad03]

It appears that the correct answer for my area is "Yes".

Caliper brackets in the rust belt can experience "rust-jacking" which
can bind up the pad. This is the exact situation I had on a 2007 Honda
Civic. I had to bang the pads out with a rubber mallet and then grind
the rust of off the bracket in the area behind the pad clips. Once I
cleaned up the brackets, the pads slid right in.

Eric O discusses the issue a few times in this video and is seen applying
the crease at ~23:00. He does brake jobs in the rust belt section of NY.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yhw_d_EWrOQ

[Shade Tree Guy]

On Friday, June 17, 2016 at 9:50:12 AM UTC-7, DerbyDad03 wrote:

> Eric O discusses the issue a few times in this video and is seen applying
> the crease at ~23:00. He does brake jobs in the rust belt section of NY.
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yhw_d_EWrOQ

Liked the swivel head on the airline
(surprised his impact wouldn't take on that second caliber bolt)
STG

[cl...@snyder.on.ca]

Actually, the pads do move against the frame a small amount and the
inability to move causes noise and uneven wear. They would not provide
sprinfs or slider plates if some movement was not required. Often the
simple solution to a noisy disk brake is tro lube those little
insignificant points where the pads neet the caliper frame.

[Oren]

On Fri, 17 Jun 2016 09:38:38 -0700 (PDT), DerbyDad03
<teama...@eznet.net> wrote:

A lube in that area reduces friction. Clips can chatter or make a
noise. YMMV

[Oren]

On Fri, 17 Jun 2016 09:50:07 -0700 (PDT), DerbyDad03
<teama...@eznet.net> wrote:

>It appears that the correct answer for my area is "Yes".

Yes was my first answer.

[Oren]

On Fri, 17 Jun 2016 14:13:07 -0400, cl...@snyder.on.ca wrote:

>Often the
>simple solution to a noisy disk brake is tro lube those little
>insignificant points where the pads neet the caliper frame.

The answer to the subject question is YES. Pretty simple.

I said a thousand times, don't make me repeat myself.

[DerbyDad03]

Once again, I am not talking about the pads. The pads move against the
*clip* in my application. Now, some may say that the clips also move
against the bracket (is that what you [and only you] call the "frame"?)
so there may be a need to lube between the clip and bracket.

However, the opinions on lube points vary, not just amongst DIY'ers and
mechanics, but also amongst suppliers.

Some say you do not need to lubricate the pad tabs and that all it does is
attract dirt.

Some say you only need to lube between the bracket and clip in geographical
locations where rust is an issue. The manufacturer/refurbisher of the loaded
calipers I bought (Centric) told me that lubrication is *not* required
between the bracket and the clip. They ship their parts "Plug and Play" and
there is no lubrication between the bracket and clip. Guess where Centric
is located? California. Guess where I am located? In the rust belt. Guess
what I am going to do?

[DerbyDad03]

Your first answer also included:

"Yes. The caliper comes with a lube for the clip. "

Maybe if what you bought included the bracket and the clip, but not
all calipers are purchased with the bracket.

A loaded caliper will come with everything - caliper, bracket, clips,
pads, etc.

A semi-loaded caliper will come with the caliper, bracket, possibly the
clips but no pads.

A caliper will come with, well, the caliper.

So, to say that "the *caliper* comes with a lube for the clip" is probably
not accurate. I doubt they throw in a packet of lube if there is nothing
included to lube.

I might as well toss in that the loaded calipers that come from Centric
do *not* include any lube because they are (theoretically) Plug and Play.
i.e. pre-lubed where necessary and pre-torqued (slider pins). Centric does
not feel that the area between the clip and bracket needs to be lubed. I
call their tech support and asked.

However, I will be lubing the area between the bracket and the clip because
I live in the rust belt and I will be loosening and torquing the slider
pins because for my own peace of mind.

[Gordon Shumway]

That's not an area where one needs to use copper grease (lube) to eliminate brake noise (squeal). The copper grease needs to
be placed on the back (non-rotor side) of the pad.

That's why I said "No" to his original question. So there! >:p

[Oren]

Great. Sounds like we get back to your simple question. Yes or No.

[Oren]

The subject question is yes or no. I took my stand, voting yes.

Pick your poison. So dare!

[Gordon Shumway]

This isn't the first time, by your own admission, you've voted wrong. I'm keeping my eye on you. ;-)

[Vic Smith]

On Fri, 17 Jun 2016 12:49:27 -0700 (PDT), DerbyDad03
<teama...@eznet.net> wrote:


>
>However, the opinions on lube points vary, not just amongst DIY'ers and
>mechanics, but also amongst suppliers.
>

Anything that you remove and replace where rust interferes should get
cleaned and lubed. I use anti-seize.
With brakes you just make sure it won't foul the pads/shoes.
That means not using enough where heat will cause it to run to where
it gets flung.

[cl...@snyder.on.ca]

On Fri, 17 Jun 2016 12:49:27 -0700 (PDT), DerbyDad03

<teama...@eznet.net> wrote:

>On Friday, June 17, 2016 at 2:13:07 PM UTC-4, cl...@snyder.on.ca wrote:
>> On Fri, 17 Jun 2016 09:38:38 -0700 (PDT), DerbyDad03
>> <teama...@eznet.net> wrote:
>>
>> >On Wednesday, June 15, 2016 at 2:57:49 PM UTC-4, mako...@yahoo.com wrote:
>> >> > >
>> >> > > Do you put grease behind the pad clips in order to prevent rust build up
>> >> > > on the caliber mounting bracket?
>> >> >
>> >>
>> >> I put grease there so that the parts can move freely as they are supposed to.
>> >>
>> >> M
>> >
>> >Nothing moves in the area I am asking about.
>> Actually, the pads do move against the frame a small amount and the
>> inability to move causes noise and uneven wear. They would not provide
>> sprinfs or slider plates if some movement was not required. Often the
>> simple solution to a noisy disk brake is tro lube those little
>> insignificant points where the pads neet the caliper frame.
>
>Once again, I am not talking about the pads. The pads move against the
>*clip* in my application. Now, some may say that the clips also move
>against the bracket (is that what you [and only you] call the "frame"?)
>so there may be a need to lube between the clip and bracket.

As a professional mechanic we always referred to that part as the
"caliper frame" and often cursed when we had to use a file to remove
the rust behind the clip before we could re-install the clip and the
pads - when a bit of grease or anti-seize when it was assembled last
time would have prevented the problem

>
>However, the opinions on lube points vary, not just amongst DIY'ers and
>mechanics, but also amongst suppliers.
>
>Some say you do not need to lubricate the pad tabs and that all it does is
>attract dirt.
>
>Some say you only need to lube between the bracket and clip in geographical
>locations where rust is an issue. The manufacturer/refurbisher of the loaded
>calipers I bought (Centric) told me that lubrication is *not* required
>between the bracket and the clip. They ship their parts "Plug and Play" and
>there is no lubrication between the bracket and clip. Guess where Centric
>is located? California. Guess where I am located? In the rust belt. Guess
>what I am going to do?

Smart idea. Coastal california vehicles should be lubed too - as
should anything that gets onto the dry lakebeds or salt-flats.
Or any vehicle in Georgia , Florida, or Louisiana.

A little bit of grease/antiseize won't HURT, regardless where you are.

You don'tn thow on a fist-full - just a light swipe or smudge is all
that is required.

[cl...@snyder.on.ca]

On Fri, 17 Jun 2016 15:10:48 -0500, Gordon Shumway

As a mechanic i virtually never used copper grease(anti-seize) on the
back of new pads - but I used the good pads thar come with anti-squeel
shims - and sometimes even special silicone brake grease.

I prefer SilGlyde brake grease for rubber parts and squeel pads.

[DerbyDad03]

On Friday, June 17, 2016 at 8:24:50 PM UTC-4, cl...@snyder.on.ca wrote:

> As a professional mechanic we always referred to that part as the
> "caliper frame" and often cursed when we had to use a file to remove
> the rust behind the clip before we could re-install the clip and the
> pads - when a bit of grease or anti-seize when it was assembled last
> time would have prevented the problem

Maybe it's a Canadian thing?

If I search autozone.com, autoanything.com, advanceauto.com, etc. for caliper frame, I get "No results found".

If I search autozone.com, autoanything.com, advanceauto.com, etc. for caliper bracket, I get all sorts of hits for the part I have always known as the
caliper bracket.

If I Google "caliper frame" with the quotes, I get hits for motorcycle brake
mounting hardware.

If I Google caliper frame without the quotes, I get all kinds of hits for
caliper *brackets* with a couple of hits related to bicycles where the word
frame shows up because of the *bicycle* frame, not the caliper mounting
hardware. Google may use "frame" for their search, but the hits all call
it a bracket.

If I search Google Images for caliper frame I get a mixture of pictures of
bicycle brake parts and automotive brake parts.

If I search Google Images for caliper bracket the image results are almost exclusively of the part I have always known as the caliper bracket.

I gotta admit, I've have never heard anyone (DIY'er, professional or
auto-parts rep or website, etc.) refer to the part as a "frame".

I'm sure we'll hear from others. I'm certainly curious.

[cl...@snyder.on.ca]

On Fri, 17 Jun 2016 18:53:08 -0700 (PDT), DerbyDad03
<teama...@eznet.net> wrote:

>On Friday, June 17, 2016 at 8:24:50 PM UTC-4, cl...@snyder.on.ca wrote:
>
>> As a professional mechanic we always referred to that part as the
>> "caliper frame" and often cursed when we had to use a file to remove
>> the rust behind the clip before we could re-install the clip and the
>> pads - when a bit of grease or anti-seize when it was assembled last
>> time would have prevented the problem
>
>Maybe it's a Canadian thing?
>
>If I search autozone.com, autoanything.com, advanceauto.com, etc. for caliper frame, I get "No results found".
>
>If I search autozone.com, autoanything.com, advanceauto.com, etc. for caliper bracket, I get all sorts of hits for the part I have always known as the
>caliper bracket.
>
>If I Google "caliper frame" with the quotes, I get hits for motorcycle brake
>mounting hardware.

On my ranger I have both a "bracket" and a "frame". The "bracket" or
"adapter" moves the caliper "frame" out about 7/8" to allow me to
install 11 inch rotors in place of the original 10.25" rotors.

[rbowman]

On 06/17/2016 10:50 AM, DerbyDad03 wrote:
> Eric O discusses the issue a few times in this video and is seen applying
> the crease at ~23:00. He does brake jobs in the rust belt section of NY.

If I still lived in upstate NY, I'd buy Nevr-Seez by the case.

[DerbyDad03]

On Friday, June 17, 2016 at 10:33:39 PM UTC-4, cl...@snyder.on.ca wrote:
> On Fri, 17 Jun 2016 18:53:08 -0700 (PDT), DerbyDad03
> <teama...@eznet.net> wrote:
>
> >On Friday, June 17, 2016 at 8:24:50 PM UTC-4, cl...@snyder.on.ca wrote:
> >
> >> As a professional mechanic we always referred to that part as the
> >> "caliper frame" and often cursed when we had to use a file to remove
> >> the rust behind the clip before we could re-install the clip and the
> >> pads - when a bit of grease or anti-seize when it was assembled last
> >> time would have prevented the problem
> >
> >Maybe it's a Canadian thing?
> >
> >If I search autozone.com, autoanything.com, advanceauto.com, etc. for caliper frame, I get "No results found".
> >
> >If I search autozone.com, autoanything.com, advanceauto.com, etc. for caliper bracket, I get all sorts of hits for the part I have always known as the
> >caliper bracket.
> >
> >If I Google "caliper frame" with the quotes, I get hits for motorcycle brake
> >mounting hardware.
>
>
> On my ranger I have both a "bracket" and a "frame". The "bracket" or
> "adapter" moves the caliper "frame" out about 7/8" to allow me to
> install 11 inch rotors in place of the original 10.25" rotors.
>
> >

...snip...

You are calling an adapter a "bracket" and what (I think)the rest of the
world calls a bracket a "frame".

Can you provide a link or a part number for these 2 parts? I searched
a few different parts sites for Ranger parts that might be something like
what you are talking about and all I find is the everyday part that I
call the "caliper bracket".

What year Ranger? What would I search for to find this adapter/bracket?
What would I search for to find a caliper frame for a Ranger? Trust me, I've
tried. A link or a part number would sure clear this up for me.

[Snuffy "Hub Cap" McKinney]

"DerbyDad03" <teama...@eznet.net> wrote in message news:f92a4b92-91a1-4670...@googlegroups.com...

I pasted this into google and got some dealing with cars & bikes....
+"caliper frame" brakes

[DerbyDad03]

Sure, but follow some of the links and see which ones refer to the bracket
as a frame.

This one discusses a "floating caliper frame" of a dual piston caliper,
but they also refer to the caliper bracket as a separate part.

http://www.autozone.com/repairinfo/repairguide/repairGuideContent.jsp?pageId=0900c152800c30a8

This site does call the "bracket" a frame, but go search for a "caliper frame"
for a 1993 Mazda Miata at a parts site. I found a caliper bracket at more than
one site, but not caliper frame.

http://www.miata.net/garage/fig2.jpg

I've yet to see a part listed at a parts site for a caliper frame. Again, it
could be a Canadian thing.

[cl...@snyder.on.ca]

http://www.mcratracing.com/wheel_bearing.html calls the "bracket" a
caliper frame. in step 4.
http://installuniversity.com/mb/w203/w203/amg-brake.html
Caliper frame in step 10 - Mercedes calls it a frame.
http://eco-hondacar.blogspot.ca/2015/05/rotor-wear-thickness-and-dimension.html
Look at step2. and step 3 calls it a caliper frame on a Honda.

https://www.amazon.ca/ADVICS-AD1211-Ultra-Premium-Front-Brake/dp/B00CYGWMEU
says "I was told that these Advics brake pads were the OEM type used
on my 2008 RAV4. Since it was time to replace my front pads, and the
OEM had lasted a long time without coating my alloy rims with ugly
brake dust, I figured I would try the Advics pads even though I had
never heard of them before. Well guess what? When I removed my factory
Toyota pads and pried off the shims, there was the name Advics stamped
on the pad. And the brake caliper frame had the Advics name cast into
it as well. These pads are absolutely the same as the OEM pads the
Toyota dealer would love to sell you for a lot more money. Also, the
dealer charges extra for the anti-squeal shims which are included with
these pads. So far after almost 2000 city miles, these pads are just
as sure stopping and quiet as the factory pads were. I'm confident
they will last just as long"

He calls it a "caliper frame" on a Toyota.

http://www.ehow.com/how_7472501_change-alero-rear-brake-pads.html
On an Olds Alero -
Install the brake pads onto the caliper brackets. Apply silicone
grease to the caliper bolts. Install the brake caliper onto the
caliper frame. Install the bolts in the brake caliper and tighten
them. Remove the wheel nuts from the brake rotor. Install the wheel
and tire assembly using the reference mark to make certain that it is
in the same position, and tighten the wheel nuts.

It refers to both bracket and frame.

So I'm not the only one - and it's not JUST Canadian.......

[cl...@snyder.on.ca]

On Fri, 17 Jun 2016 20:49:53 -0700 (PDT), DerbyDad03
<teama...@eznet.net> wrote:

>On Friday, June 17, 2016 at 11:09:34 PM UTC-4, Snuffy "Hub Cap" McKinney wrote:
>> "DerbyDad03" <teama...@eznet.net> wrote in message news:f92a4b92-91a1-4670...@googlegroups.com...
>> > On Friday, June 17, 2016 at 8:24:50 PM UTC-4, cl...@snyder.on.ca wrote:
>> >
>> > > As a professional mechanic we always referred to that part as the
>> > > "caliper frame" and often cursed when we had to use a file to remove
>> > > the rust behind the clip before we could re-install the clip and the
>> > > pads - when a bit of grease or anti-seize when it was assembled last
>> > > time would have prevented the problem
>> >
>> > Maybe it's a Canadian thing?
>> >

Just about every "how tro" about disk brakes refers to the "caliper
frame"

http://www.sevenoffroad.com/showthread.php?427-Dana-30-44-Unit-Bearing-Replacement
•Using a 21mm wrench, loosen and remove the two 21mm bolts holding the
brake caliper frame to the knuckle. With the bolts removed, slide the
entire brake caliper/frame assembly aft off of the rotor. Use a bungee
cord or spare wire to tire up the brake caliper out of the way. Be
sure to not allow the caliper to drop and be held in place by the
brake line as this could tear/rupture the brake line.

https://autopartsdirecttoyou.wordpress.com/category/by-task/wheel-hub-bearing-replacement/
In order to remove the hub nut, you will need to either have someone
apply the brakes or do as I did and jam a socket extension into the
rotor vents and let it jam against the caliper frame to keep the axle
from turning while you remove the hub nut. This 1-11/16? (corrected)
nut is torqued on at 175 lb-ft so it will take a bit to get it off. I
had to buy a 3/4? drive socket set ($42 from Harbor Freight… hey I
only need it a few times) in order to remove it.

http://www.ranger-forums.com/engine-drivetrain-122/how-replace-front-abs-wheel-speed-sensor-117573/
. Remove the two bolts holding the brake caliper frame on, not the
caliper pins, but the bolts holding the caliper frame. They are 15mm
bolts that are access on the back side of the caliper frame

http://www.phaysis.com/2014/02/
I pulled into a parking lot, lifted the car, and removed the tire.
What I found was a scored brake rotor and a little stamped metal clip
that was getting pinched between the brake caliper frame and the
rotor. This is, as you can expect, not supposed to happen. So I limped
out of there, picked up a new pair of clips, installed them at home,
and took another test drive. It was still grinding, so the new clips
got damaged as well. Something was drastically wrong with the wheel.

Volvo refers to "Brake Caliper Frame-To-Wheel Spindle Bolt" in the
mitchell repair manual for Volvo V70 XC 1999-2000 front suspension
repair section
(www.matthewsvolvosite.com/forums/download/file.php?id=5033)

[DerbyDad03]

re: Just about every "how tro" about disk brakes refers to the "caliper
frame"

Granted, just about every how-to *you* posted referred to them as a "caliper frame", but I'm pretty sure that I could find just as many, and probably
more, that call it a bracket. OK, it has 2 names, I'll give you that.

I still find it interesting that I have been unable to find a "frame" on any
of the 4 or 5 different parts sites that I looked at. Were you about to find
a part number or part description for the "frame" on your Ranger? Or a part
number for a "frame" for any other model car?

[rbowman]

On 06/17/2016 10:27 PM, cl...@snyder.on.ca wrote:
> It refers to both bracket and frame.
>
> So I'm not the only one - and it's not JUST Canadian.......

I jsut happen to have the service manual for a V-Strom up -- they refer
to it as a 'caliper holder'.

[cl...@snyder.on.ca]

https://books.google.ca/books?id=SV7lCwAAQBAJ&pg=PA111&lpg=PA111&dq=brake+parts+%22caliper+frame%22&source=bl&ots=5DQuJV22tv&sig=YZeFWABPEnhl9reXSW_sl34kEpk&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwj-5t3r47DNAhUHEVIKHQCPBmcQ6AEIHDAA#v=onepage&q=brake%20parts%20%22caliper%20frame%22&f=false

Putting oversized Wilwoods on a BMW E36 - Step 5 says "remove the main
part of the caliper from the caliper frame" and "Remove the 2 16mm
bolts that hold the caliper frame to the hub" in the book "BMW
3-Series (E36) 1992-1999: How to Build and Modify" By Jeffrey
Zurschmeide. on page 111.

The you-tube at https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8IxJFoZxKaE also
refers to removing the slider bolts from the caliper frame.

Land rover calls it a caliper carrier.
On a Ford Aspire it's called a "torque member" `
On a Toyota Celica the part is called the "torque plate"
Mazda calls it a "caliper mount"

[cl...@snyder.on.ca]

On Fri, 17 Jun 2016 22:06:59 -0700 (PDT), DerbyDad03

I've just posted half a dozen different names for the part from
different manufacturer's sites. and NONE of them called it a
"bracket". There are likely some that do.

Just saying, inalmost 30 years doing it for a living, and another 20
doing it as a hobby "I" have referred to it as a caliper frame, and so
have the parts men and other mechanics I've had to deal with.

When I asked my Toyota parts man for a caliper frame, he gave me a
"torque plate" and if I needed a caliper frame for a Mazda, I'd get a
"caliper mount", and for a Land Rover I'd get a "caliper carrier".

On many disc brake systems it is quite a bit more than a "bracket".

[Oren]

On Fri, 17 Jun 2016 15:51:13 -0500, Gordon Shumway

No. The last time I was wrong, I was mistaken. Even when I'm wrong
I'm still right :-\

[DerbyDad03]

I believe that I have already agreed with you that it is known as a "frame"
in certain circles. I got it. I bow to your internet search abilities in
finding numerous sources where the term "frame", as well as many others,
is used to describe the part.

However, I still go back to the fact I can't find a parts web site where I can find a caliper frame. It must be me. My search abilities must suck. I asked
if you could supply a site where I could order a caliper frame. I even asked
for a part number for a caliper frame for your own vehicle. I guess you don't
want to help me out in that regard. OK, we'll move on.

I Googled Toyota torque plate and got this:

http://www.bhjproducts.com/bhj_content/products/honingplates/hp_applist.php/DSC_9841logo.jpeg?v=1449163474

and this

http://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0890/6136/products/DSC_9841logo.jpeg?v=1449163474

And many more similar hits. If you asked your Toyota parts man for a
caliper frame, why would he give you a "torque plate"?

And once again, while I hate to keep going back to this, I'm sincerely asking
for an explanation. I'm not arguing with you, I'm trying to learn something.
Why can I find internet sites that use terms like "Land Rover caliper carrier" but the only thing I can find at sites like AdvanceAuto, AutoEverything, etc.
is Land Rover caliper *bracket*. It's not just for the Land Rover caliper
carrier, or the Toyota caliper frame, it's for every vehicle I checked at
numerous sites. All they sell are caliper brackets, even for the vehicles on
which you say (and have proven) that they are called something else.

If all the other terms are fairly common, why can't you find the parts at
auto parts sites using those terms?

[Tekkie®]

cl...@snyder.on.ca posted for all of us...

>
> So I'm not the only one - and it's not JUST Canadian.......
>

So what would you know? <g>

--
Tekkie

[Tony944]

"TekkieŽ" wrote in message news:SAY9z.23033$hQ5....@fx40.iad...

You can put the grease on many different places "However"
you must be carefully that you don't overdo it?
centrifugal force of Rotation can throw
grease on Rotor or drums and that you do not want.

[DerbyDad03]

What would a person be able to grease such that the "centrifugal force
of Rotation" would throw grease on the rotor, except perhaps the wheel
itself?

What other part of a disk brake system is "rotating" other than the wheel
and the rotor?

Are you talking about using so much grease on a stationary part of the brake
system that it *drips* onto the wheel then gets thrown onto the rotor?

Please explain.

[cl...@snyder.on.ca]

On Mon, 20 Jun 2016 15:33:43 -0700, "Tony944" <to...@seput.com> wrote:

>
>
>"TekkieŽ" wrote in message news:SAY9z.23033$hQ5....@fx40.iad...
>
>cl...@snyder.on.ca posted for all of us...
>
>
>>
>> So I'm not the only one - and it's not JUST Canadian.......
>>
>
>So what would you know? <g>

The caliper frame/bracket/torque plate / whatreveryouwanttocallit
doesn't rotate unless you flip the car end over end, and it would be a
spectacular flip to produce enough centr force to fling the grease -
and it would throw it AWAY from the rotor.

The bif thing is not to use enough grease for it to run off and get
onto the pads. Like the old Brylkreme ? commercial - "a little dab'll
do ya"

More than a smudge is a waste.

[Oren]

On Mon, 20 Jun 2016 22:50:02 -0400, cl...@snyder.on.ca wrote:

> The caliper frame/bracket/torque plate / whatreveryouwanttocallit
>doesn't rotate unless you flip the car end over end, and it would be a
>spectacular flip to produce enough centr force to fling the grease -
>and it would throw it AWAY from the rotor.

The caliper can rotate if the left wheel breaks off. Caliper travel.
fluid line scatters fluid.

<https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=teulLyl7U78>

[DerbyDad03]

I disagree. If the *wheel* breaks off, the caliper will stay right where it
is. A lot more would need to break off before the caliper went anywhere.