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Todd

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May 22, 2001, 9:53:33 AM5/22/01
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Greetings:

I am being smoked out of my apartment by the people below me. They
smoke all day, their curtains are yellow, and they seem to be in good
health, so they won't be departing too soon!

Somehow their smoke odor gets into my apartment. I have sealed around
electric sockets with foam, but for the life of me I just can't figure
out how the odor gets into my apartment. Can it go through the their
ceiling and through my carpet? Would I need to seal off the outlets
completely?

Speedy Jim

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May 22, 2001, 10:48:35 AM5/22/01
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If this is an old wooden structure, there may be so many
tiny air leaks between floors that sealing is impossible.

You might have a good case for forcing the landlord to install
a high quality air purifier in your unit.
The smoke produces not just offensive odor but can have multiple
biological effects on you. Personally, I'd be looking for an
opportunity to move...
Jim

Bill Mitchell

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May 22, 2001, 2:26:52 PM5/22/01
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Could there be shared heating vents the odor is traveling through?


Ryan

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May 22, 2001, 8:30:41 PM5/22/01
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Perhaps the return air duct pulls air from their rooms and mixes it
into the unit that heats/cools your place.

Dan Hicks

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May 22, 2001, 9:59:01 PM5/22/01
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You need to create a positive pressure in your apartment. First off,
don't run any exhaust fans unless you open a window away from the
problem apartment. If you have a forced air furnace, and if you own the
unit or have a willing landlord, consider adding a fresh air intake that
feeds into the cold air return of the furnace, and then run the furnace
fan all the time. If you can't do that then you need to install
something resembling a small window fan blowing inward into the
apartment.

Bluedog

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May 22, 2001, 10:01:57 PM5/22/01
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In article <c0cded70.0105...@posting.google.com>,
toddwfr...@yahoo.com says...

>Somehow their smoke odor gets into my apartment. I have sealed around
>electric sockets with foam, but for the life of me I just can't figure
>out how the odor gets into my apartment. Can it go through the their
>ceiling and through my carpet?


There's usually a layer of concrete between the floors, so it's doubtful it's
coming thru so directly.

I had a problem once in an apartment with cigarette smoke coming thru the
bathroom sink cabinet from around the plumbing. It was very noticeable when you
stuck your head down there. A little duct tape around all areas where plumbing
met up with the cabinet wall worked pretty well.


Bluedog

Ben Franklin VI

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May 22, 2001, 10:53:14 PM5/22/01
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For now move. AND join forces with COMMIT to ban smoking in all buildings.

The foot is on the move. Soon it will be a civil and criminal offense to force
smoke on others.

Addiction: An addict will go to any length to protect his addiction. Big
Tobacco knows this: Adds chemicals to make their products MORE addictive.
Aggravated felony. Ben VI

The addict takes a puff, the puff takes a puff, the puffs take the addict, RIP.
The man takes a drink, the drink takes a drink, the drink takes the man, RIP.
A drug is a drug is a drug. Ben VI.

Smoking addicts in their crave
like rabid skunks do behave

Addiction drives their bus
not safe for them not safe for us

Burma Shave

>rom: toddwfr...@yahoo.com (Todd)
>Date: 5/22/01 8:53 AM Central Daylight Time
>Message-id: <c0cded70.0105...@posting.google.com>


current working email eddress is: F2an...@aol.com

Nehmo Sergheyev

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May 22, 2001, 11:07:50 PM5/22/01
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> Todd - I am being smoked out of my apartment by the people below me. They

> smoke all day, their curtains are yellow, and they seem to be in good
> health, so they won't be departing too soon!

> Somehow their smoke odor gets into my apartment...

Nehmo - Let gravity work for you. Retaliate with water.

--
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* Nehmo Sergheyev *
**************************
http://www.angelcities.com/members/nehmo/Susan_Talks.html


Mikie

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May 22, 2001, 11:13:49 PM5/22/01
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you need a cat
that'll fix it.

--
When trouble arises and things look bad, there is always one individual
who perceives a solution and is willing to take command. Very often, that
individual is crazy.


"Todd" <toddwfr...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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: Greetings:

Kathy

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May 23, 2001, 7:03:39 AM5/23/01
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Ben Franklin VI <f8an...@aol.com> wrote in message
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>
> For now move. AND join forces with COMMIT to ban smoking in all
buildings.
>
> The foot is on the move. Soon it will be a civil and criminal offense to
force
> smoke on others.
>
> Addiction: An addict will go to any length to protect his addiction. Big
> Tobacco knows this: Adds chemicals to make their products MORE addictive.
> Aggravated felony. Ben VI
>
> The addict takes a puff, the puff takes a puff, the puffs take the addict,
RIP.
> The man takes a drink, the drink takes a drink, the drink takes the man,
RIP.
> A drug is a drug is a drug. Ben VI.
>
> Smoking addicts in their crave
> like rabid skunks do behave
>
> Addiction drives their bus
> not safe for them not safe for us
>
> Burma Shave
>
So, you are saying that after you make criminals out of all the smokers in
America that you think drinking should be outlawed, too?


Kathy

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May 23, 2001, 7:02:08 AM5/23/01
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Mikie <ugo_b...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> you need a cat
> that'll fix it.
>
> --
> When trouble arises and things look bad, there is always one individual
> who perceives a solution and is willing to take command. Very often, that
> individual is crazy.
>
>
what is a cat gonna do?


The.Central.Scru...@invalid.pobox.com

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May 23, 2001, 8:12:27 AM5/23/01
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Drinkers do less to inflict their habbit on others. I can't remember the last
time an alky urinated on me but only yesterday I received a smoker's exhaust.

I don't think smoking should be illegal, but I do think that it ought to be
illegal in public places.

Nehmo Sergheyev

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May 23, 2001, 12:47:46 PM5/23/01
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> > > Todd - I am being smoked out of my apartment by the people below me.

> > Mikie - you need a cat
> > that'll fix it.

> Kathy - what is a cat gonna do?

Nehmo - The odor of the litter box will overwhelm the smoke.

Bill Browning

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May 23, 2001, 4:53:06 PM5/23/01
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Kathy,
I'll bet you are an addicted smoker.
Bill B.
Kathy <krzy...@home.com> wrote in message
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db...@sprynet.com

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May 23, 2001, 6:48:30 PM5/23/01
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they probably have a backdraft into your apt. from theirs. i once was
working on a wall light in one of my baths, single family, 3 bed, house,
and i know every inch of it. on the bathroom wall i removed a light
fixture/med. cabinet. we were going to put back a light bar, with the
four or five fancy ligths and a large mirror on the wall where the med.
cabinet was previously. the walls are sheetrock. well there was a small
2 to 3 inch square hole next to the elect. box on the wall where the
med. cab. was located. i could feel a very cold air coming out of the
hole. dont think it was coming from the attic as the attic was very
hot, it was in the middle of the summer. the air cond. was on. i went
into the attic and it was not coming from up there, the studs in the
wall had headers on them and they were not open at any place in the
attic.... probably a back draft from the rest of the house, the air was
on inside the house and the house was pretty cool, still cant figure out
where the air was coming from... if you in apt. they might have the
same problem. and if so you gonna get the smoke odor, i smoke and cant
stand the odor of smoke, especially other peoples smoke, cant even take
my own sometimes......
hope this helps.
check around all vents for air cond. or open windows on your apt. via
their apt. like the air traveling on one wall of build and passing two
open windows, pulling the air out of one and letting the odor go into
the other......

Kathy

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May 23, 2001, 7:41:31 PM5/23/01
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<The.Central.Scru...@invalid.pobox.com> wrote in message

>
> I don't think smoking should be illegal, but I do think that it ought to
be
> illegal in public places.

Are apartment buildings public places? I don't think so.


The.Central.Scru...@invalid.pobox.com

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May 23, 2001, 8:10:11 PM5/23/01
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neither do I. One should be able to do anything they feel like in their home as
long it doesn't bother the neighbors.

Glenn Dube

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May 23, 2001, 9:54:44 PM5/23/01
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Maybe you have a family member that took up smoking and is trying to hide it
from you ?


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Travis Anton

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May 27, 2001, 5:11:49 PM5/27/01
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In article
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> Drinkers do less to inflict their habbit on others. I can't remember the
> last
> time an alky urinated on me but only yesterday I received a smoker's
> exhaust.
>
> I don't think smoking should be illegal, but I do think that it ought to
> be
> illegal in public places

Let's please outlaw that nickel a quart cheap perfume that has something
in it I'm allergic, too, also. That stuff stinks and makes me sneeze...

And while we're at it, carpet smells funny, too, and I hear it has stuff
in it that's bad for me, let's outlaw it...

Then those buzzing florescent lights, they can give epileptics seizures.
I think they should be illegal, too...

Neighbors, oh there needs to be a law against them as much bitching and
moaning about them as I've seen here, they should be illegal, too...

Pokemon, digimon and all other merchandised mons, what good parent will
disagree with me that those little invading, mind rotting things should
be tolerated... those should be illegal, too...

There ought'a be a law against people that think there ought'a be a law
against everything, too...

--
Travis Anton, BoxTop Software, Inc. - http://www.boxtopsoft.com

"BoxTop Software's ProJPEG plug-in consistently produces JPEG files
that are routinely 50% smaller than Photoshop" - Mac Art Design

Kathy

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May 28, 2001, 10:14:26 AM5/28/01
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Travis Anton <tra...@boxtopsoft.com> wrote in message
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> In article

>
> Let's please outlaw that nickel a quart cheap perfume that has something
> in it I'm allergic, too, also. That stuff stinks and makes me sneeze...
>
> And while we're at it, carpet smells funny, too, and I hear it has stuff
> in it that's bad for me, let's outlaw it...
>
> Then those buzzing florescent lights, they can give epileptics seizures.
> I think they should be illegal, too...
>
> Neighbors, oh there needs to be a law against them as much bitching and
> moaning about them as I've seen here, they should be illegal, too...
>
> Pokemon, digimon and all other merchandised mons, what good parent will
> disagree with me that those little invading, mind rotting things should
> be tolerated... those should be illegal, too...
>
> There ought'a be a law against people that think there ought'a be a law
> against everything, too...
>
> --
> Travis Anton

They're only trying to protect us from ourselves [:~)


Michael Baugh

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May 28, 2001, 12:19:55 PM5/28/01
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When there was a fire at the clock factory, there was some second hand
smoke.

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TinMan1332

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May 29, 2001, 2:36:56 PM5/29/01
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>Let's please outlaw that nickel a quart cheap perfume that has something
>in it I'm allergic, too, also. That stuff stinks and makes me sneeze...

This may not be too far away from happening. Seems some perfume makers
(including some well known brands) use heavy amounts of Phenyl Ethyl and
Tertiary Butyl. Both are toxic.

>And while we're at it, carpet smells funny, too,

It's the Formaldehyde, made from Methyl Alcohol (methanol).

>Then those buzzing florescent lights, they can give epileptics seizures.
>I think they should be illegal, too...

Of more serious concern, some auto custom shops now offer a conversion that
makes the eye lever third brake light flash rapidly upon brake application.
This has caused several bad rear end colisions (exactly what it's designed to
prevent) by causing epileptic seizures of following drivers.

>There ought'a be a law against people that think there ought'a be a law
>against everything, too...

The best point made here so far <G>.

Default User

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