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Arthur Shapiro
Jan 9, 2012, 12:57:32 PM1/9/12
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In article <p7kfnbj5j6re$.uvavn17mtli2$.d...@40tude.net>, sam bruno <samb...@nowhere.com> wrote:
>School starts Monday after a long recess and my kid's trumpet valves are
>stuck in place.
Don't have anything to add, but I played French Horn as a kid in the 50's. I
still have half a bottle of valve oil sitting on the shelf. (I hate to throw
stuff out.) For those who don't know about this stuff, it's amazingly thin; I
think it makes water look viscous.
Art
>School starts Monday after a long recess and my kid's trumpet valves are
>stuck in place.
Don't have anything to add, but I played French Horn as a kid in the 50's. I
still have half a bottle of valve oil sitting on the shelf. (I hate to throw
stuff out.) For those who don't know about this stuff, it's amazingly thin; I
think it makes water look viscous.
Art
cl...@snyder.on.ca
Jan 9, 2012, 5:28:58 PM1/9/12
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On Mon, 9 Jan 2012 08:40:14 -0800, sam bruno <samb...@nowhere.com>
wrote:
>On Sun, 8 Jan 2012 21:05:56 -0500, Stormin Mormon wrote:
>
>> Since the valves are sticking, probably better to take it in, let the
>> teacher deal with it.
>
>To give an update on Monday morning, after dropping the kid off at school
>on my way to work (they haven't invented buses yet in California), I ended
>up running an unexpected experiment using your advice.
>
>First, I went to the store to get the glycerin. It was immediately clear on
>the first (of three) valves that it was just too thick and gooey. It worked
>(the valve is now free) but my kid said it rises too slowly to play
>properly.
>
>For the middle valve, I put the all-in-one oil. It penetrated well enough
>to free the valve without a big tussle, but, it too was way too thick in
>the end for the valve rises slowly.
>
>On the first valve, I simply took your suggestions to heart, and used the
>gree dish detergent. It worked to free up the valve (with warm water) but
>it wouldn't rise without force.
>
>So, I brought it in to the school with a note to the music teacher
>describing what I've done and where we were. I guess I'll find out when the
>wife picks up the kids this afternoon (did I say California hasn't invented
>the yellow school bus yet?)
>
>Hopefully the teacher's note back won't be too scathingly hot! :)
Both the Glycerine and the dish soap need to be EXTENSIVELY diluted
with clean water......
wrote:
>On Sun, 8 Jan 2012 21:05:56 -0500, Stormin Mormon wrote:
>
>> Since the valves are sticking, probably better to take it in, let the
>> teacher deal with it.
>
>To give an update on Monday morning, after dropping the kid off at school
>on my way to work (they haven't invented buses yet in California), I ended
>up running an unexpected experiment using your advice.
>
>First, I went to the store to get the glycerin. It was immediately clear on
>the first (of three) valves that it was just too thick and gooey. It worked
>(the valve is now free) but my kid said it rises too slowly to play
>properly.
>
>For the middle valve, I put the all-in-one oil. It penetrated well enough
>to free the valve without a big tussle, but, it too was way too thick in
>the end for the valve rises slowly.
>
>On the first valve, I simply took your suggestions to heart, and used the
>gree dish detergent. It worked to free up the valve (with warm water) but
>it wouldn't rise without force.
>
>So, I brought it in to the school with a note to the music teacher
>describing what I've done and where we were. I guess I'll find out when the
>wife picks up the kids this afternoon (did I say California hasn't invented
>the yellow school bus yet?)
>
>Hopefully the teacher's note back won't be too scathingly hot! :)
Both the Glycerine and the dish soap need to be EXTENSIVELY diluted
with clean water......
notbob
Jan 9, 2012, 5:40:21 PM1/9/12
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On 2012-01-09, sam bruno <samb...@nowhere.com> wrote:
> wife picks up the kids this afternoon (did I say California hasn't invented
> the yellow school bus yet?)
Yes, but you forgot to mention the fact yer a moron.
> wife picks up the kids this afternoon (did I say California hasn't invented
> the yellow school bus yet?)
> Hopefully the teacher's note back won't be too scathingly hot! :)
his dad trashed it and kick him outta the band cuz his dad's a moron.
nb
--
vi --the root of evil
HeyBub
Jan 9, 2012, 7:12:55 PM1/9/12
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sam bruno wrote:
> School starts Monday after a long recess and my kid's trumpet valves
> are stuck in place. We can't find the valve oil.
> School starts Monday after a long recess and my kid's trumpet valves
>
> It's not a life-or-death 'emergency' - but it got me thinking (not
> being a musician) what I could use that I had around the house to
> lubricate the valves.
>
> Unfortunately, I don't have 'sewing machine oil' at home (which
> googling says works ok). But I do have '3-in-1 household oil'.
>
> The MSDS says 3-in-1 is "Severely Hydrotreated Heavy Naphthenic Oil"
> (> 97% with 2% Naptha). PDF = http://tinyurl.com/6wlw2vs
>
> That sounds horrid. The music store will be closed until the kid goes
> to school
>
> Googling some more, I see some people say that 'mineral oil' works
> (which I can probably get at a drug store, right?) but before I go
> farther, I wonder if anyone here has advice for an easily found
> substitute for trumpet oil on a Sunday (i.e., hardware or drug store
> chemical)?
>
> BTW, this ehow article says to use "lamp oil" and "essential oil" in
> addition to "scent oil" and "sewing machine oil". Is it just me or
> are most of these oils (with the exception of sewing machine oil)
> exotic or what?
> http://www.ehow.com/how_6201749_homemade-trumpet-valve-oil.html
Use anything that's handy (nose lube, chicken fat, axle grease, etc.). When
you can get the right stuff, clean out the replacement. Trumpet players know
how to clean their instrument.
Stormin Mormon
Jan 9, 2012, 10:04:39 PM1/9/12
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Probably cause busses pollute the air, but each parent delivering kids in
the SUV does not.
I'm curious to hear what the teacher uses. My guess is to gently pull the
valves out, clean them in hot water and detergent. The next morning, the
teacher will use 2 drops per piston of trumpet oil, and reassemble. What do
I get if I win?
Christopher A. Young
Learn more about Jesus
www.lds.org
.
"sam bruno" <samb...@nowhere.com> wrote in message
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the SUV does not.
I'm curious to hear what the teacher uses. My guess is to gently pull the
valves out, clean them in hot water and detergent. The next morning, the
teacher will use 2 drops per piston of trumpet oil, and reassemble. What do
I get if I win?
Christopher A. Young
Learn more about Jesus
www.lds.org
.
"sam bruno" <samb...@nowhere.com> wrote in message
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On Sun, 8 Jan 2012 21:05:56 -0500, Stormin Mormon wrote:
> Since the valves are sticking, probably better to take it in, let the
> teacher deal with it.
To give an update on Monday morning, after dropping the kid off at school
on my way to work (they haven't invented buses yet in California), I ended
up running an unexpected experiment using your advice.
First, I went to the store to get the glycerin. It was immediately clear on
the first (of three) valves that it was just too thick and gooey. It worked
(the valve is now free) but my kid said it rises too slowly to play
properly.
For the middle valve, I put the all-in-one oil. It penetrated well enough
to free the valve without a big tussle, but, it too was way too thick in
the end for the valve rises slowly.
On the first valve, I simply took your suggestions to heart, and used the
gree dish detergent. It worked to free up the valve (with warm water) but
it wouldn't rise without force.
So, I brought it in to the school with a note to the music teacher
describing what I've done and where we were. I guess I'll find out when the
> Since the valves are sticking, probably better to take it in, let the
> teacher deal with it.
To give an update on Monday morning, after dropping the kid off at school
on my way to work (they haven't invented buses yet in California), I ended
up running an unexpected experiment using your advice.
First, I went to the store to get the glycerin. It was immediately clear on
the first (of three) valves that it was just too thick and gooey. It worked
(the valve is now free) but my kid said it rises too slowly to play
properly.
For the middle valve, I put the all-in-one oil. It penetrated well enough
to free the valve without a big tussle, but, it too was way too thick in
the end for the valve rises slowly.
On the first valve, I simply took your suggestions to heart, and used the
gree dish detergent. It worked to free up the valve (with warm water) but
it wouldn't rise without force.
So, I brought it in to the school with a note to the music teacher
describing what I've done and where we were. I guess I'll find out when the
wife picks up the kids this afternoon (did I say California hasn't invented
the yellow school bus yet?)
the yellow school bus yet?)
Stormin Mormon
Jan 9, 2012, 10:05:19 PM1/9/12
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I never even thought of wax. Makes sense.
"TimR" <timot...@aol.com> wrote in message
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Don't put oil on a chain. Use wax, there is a special wax from the
bike stores that is much better. Airgun shooters put it on their
pellets.
"TimR" <timot...@aol.com> wrote in message
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Don't put oil on a chain. Use wax, there is a special wax from the
bike stores that is much better. Airgun shooters put it on their
pellets.
JIMMIE
Jan 9, 2012, 10:25:42 PM1/9/12
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On Jan 9, 10:04 pm, "Stormin Mormon"
accomplish in a sink full of soapy water. There is a good change the
teacher doesn't have the facilities to clean it properly.
Jimmie
<cayoung61***spambl...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> Probably cause busses pollute the air, but each parent delivering kids in
> the SUV does not.
>
> I'm curious to hear what the teacher uses. My guess is to gently pull the
> valves out, clean them in hot water and detergent. The next morning, the
> teacher will use 2 drops per piston of trumpet oil, and reassemble. What do
> I get if I win?
>
> Christopher A. Young
> Learn more about Jesus
> www.lds.org
> .
>
> "sam bruno" <sambr...@nowhere.com> wrote in message
> Probably cause busses pollute the air, but each parent delivering kids in
> the SUV does not.
>
> I'm curious to hear what the teacher uses. My guess is to gently pull the
> valves out, clean them in hot water and detergent. The next morning, the
> teacher will use 2 drops per piston of trumpet oil, and reassemble. What do
> I get if I win?
>
> Christopher A. Young
> Learn more about Jesus
> www.lds.org
> .
>
>
> news:iopltraaz024.b...@40tude.net...
>
> On Sun, 8 Jan 2012 21:05:56 -0500, Stormin Mormon wrote:
> > Since the valves are sticking, probably better to take it in, let the
> > teacher deal with it.
>
> To give an update on Monday morning, after dropping the kid off at school
> on my way to work (they haven't invented buses yet in California), I ended
> up running an unexpected experiment using your advice.
>
> First, I went to the store to get the glycerin. It was immediately clear on
> the first (of three) valves that it was just too thick and gooey. It worked
> (the valve is now free) but my kid said it rises too slowly to play
> properly.
>
> For the middle valve, I put the all-in-one oil. It penetrated well enough
> to free the valve without a big tussle, but, it too was way too thick in
> the end for the valve rises slowly.
>
> On the first valve, I simply took your suggestions to heart, and used the
> gree dish detergent. It worked to free up the valve (with warm water) but
> it wouldn't rise without force.
>
> So, I brought it in to the school with a note to the music teacher
> describing what I've done and where we were. I guess I'll find out when the
> wife picks up the kids this afternoon (did I say California hasn't invented
> the yellow school bus yet?)
>
> Hopefully the teacher's note back won't be too scathingly hot! :)
Maybe not, you left out cleaning the valve cylinders. Usually best
> news:iopltraaz024.b...@40tude.net...
>
> On Sun, 8 Jan 2012 21:05:56 -0500, Stormin Mormon wrote:
> > Since the valves are sticking, probably better to take it in, let the
> > teacher deal with it.
>
> To give an update on Monday morning, after dropping the kid off at school
> on my way to work (they haven't invented buses yet in California), I ended
> up running an unexpected experiment using your advice.
>
> First, I went to the store to get the glycerin. It was immediately clear on
> the first (of three) valves that it was just too thick and gooey. It worked
> (the valve is now free) but my kid said it rises too slowly to play
> properly.
>
> For the middle valve, I put the all-in-one oil. It penetrated well enough
> to free the valve without a big tussle, but, it too was way too thick in
> the end for the valve rises slowly.
>
> On the first valve, I simply took your suggestions to heart, and used the
> gree dish detergent. It worked to free up the valve (with warm water) but
> it wouldn't rise without force.
>
> So, I brought it in to the school with a note to the music teacher
> describing what I've done and where we were. I guess I'll find out when the
> wife picks up the kids this afternoon (did I say California hasn't invented
> the yellow school bus yet?)
>
> Hopefully the teacher's note back won't be too scathingly hot! :)
accomplish in a sink full of soapy water. There is a good change the
teacher doesn't have the facilities to clean it properly.
Jimmie
gregz
Jan 9, 2012, 10:57:13 PM1/9/12
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"Stormin Mormon" <cayoung61***spam...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> We just had a long thread on electric motor oil. Maybe same for musical
> insturment valves, ND-20?
> "Michael Dobony" <sur...@stopassaultnow.net> wrote in message
> news:b2rhnelw6eq3.o...@40tude.net...
>
> I would stick to the mineral oil. Kerosene based products smell and I doubt
> they are harmless. WD40 is good for cleaning things up, but dries out
> quickly. Sewing machine oil would also be a good substitute.
Trumpet oil smelled like a silicone oil to me, very thin. In a pinch I
would use crc 2-36, or lesser wd-40
The trouble is, I don't know what's going to happen with moisture.
Greg
> We just had a long thread on electric motor oil. Maybe same for musical
> insturment valves, ND-20?
> "Michael Dobony" <sur...@stopassaultnow.net> wrote in message
> news:b2rhnelw6eq3.o...@40tude.net...
>
> I would stick to the mineral oil. Kerosene based products smell and I doubt
> they are harmless. WD40 is good for cleaning things up, but dries out
> quickly. Sewing machine oil would also be a good substitute.
Trumpet oil smelled like a silicone oil to me, very thin. In a pinch I
would use crc 2-36, or lesser wd-40
The trouble is, I don't know what's going to happen with moisture.
Greg
Stormin Mormon
Jan 10, 2012, 9:24:37 AM1/10/12
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Ah, yes, also clean inside the little tubes where the plungers go. True, the
school might not provide the music room with a sink and hot water, and the
teacher might not want to go find a sink.
"JIMMIE" <JIMMIE...@YAHOO.COM> wrote in message
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school might not provide the music room with a sink and hot water, and the
teacher might not want to go find a sink.
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denni...@gmail.com
Jan 10, 2012, 9:32:18 AM1/10/12
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On Jan 9, 11:40 am, sam bruno <sambr...@nowhere.com> wrote:
> First, I went to the store to get the glycerin.
You went to the store to get glycerin, but you couldn't pick up some
> First, I went to the store to get the glycerin.
sewing machine oil while you were there???
I know you said the music store was closed, but what about the one in
the next town over? There's a music store in every little bum-f town
in America.
You know, if your kid actually PRACTICED and maintained the damn thing
like he is supposed to, the valves wouldn't have seized up.
sam bruno
Jan 7, 2012, 11:01:08 PM1/7/12
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wc...@detroit.usa.com
Jan 7, 2012, 11:14:31 PM1/7/12
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On Jan 7, 11:01 pm, sam bruno <sambr...@nowhere.com> wrote:
> School starts Monday after a long recess and my kid's trumpet valves are
> stuck in place. We can't find the valve oil.
>
> It's not a life-or-death 'emergency' - but it got me thinking (not being a
> musician) what I could use that I had around the house to lubricate the
> valves.
>
> Unfortunately, I don't have 'sewing machine oil' at home (which googling
> says works ok). But I do have '3-in-1 household oil'.
>
> The MSDS says 3-in-1 is "Severely Hydrotreated Heavy Naphthenic Oil" (> 97%
> with 2% Naptha). PDF =http://tinyurl.com/6wlw2vs
> School starts Monday after a long recess and my kid's trumpet valves are
> stuck in place. We can't find the valve oil.
>
> It's not a life-or-death 'emergency' - but it got me thinking (not being a
> musician) what I could use that I had around the house to lubricate the
> valves.
>
> Unfortunately, I don't have 'sewing machine oil' at home (which googling
> says works ok). But I do have '3-in-1 household oil'.
>
> The MSDS says 3-in-1 is "Severely Hydrotreated Heavy Naphthenic Oil" (> 97%
>
> That sounds horrid. The music store will be closed until the kid goes to
> school
>
> Googling some more, I see some people say that 'mineral oil' works (which I
> can probably get at a drug store, right?) but before I go farther, I wonder
> if anyone here has advice for an easily found substitute for trumpet oil on
> a Sunday (i.e., hardware or drug store chemical)?
>
> BTW, this ehow article says to use "lamp oil" and "essential oil" in
> addition to "scent oil" and "sewing machine oil". Is it just me or are most
> of these oils (with the exception of sewing machine oil) exotic or what?http://www.ehow.com/how_6201749_homemade-trumpet-valve-oil.html
Don't use 3-in-1 oil for the trumpet valves, its to thick and they
> That sounds horrid. The music store will be closed until the kid goes to
> school
>
> Googling some more, I see some people say that 'mineral oil' works (which I
> can probably get at a drug store, right?) but before I go farther, I wonder
> if anyone here has advice for an easily found substitute for trumpet oil on
> a Sunday (i.e., hardware or drug store chemical)?
>
> BTW, this ehow article says to use "lamp oil" and "essential oil" in
> addition to "scent oil" and "sewing machine oil". Is it just me or are most
> of these oils (with the exception of sewing machine oil) exotic or what?http://www.ehow.com/how_6201749_homemade-trumpet-valve-oil.html
will rise slowly. You need a very light oil, very thin. Have any hair
clipper oil?
If the child dosen't need to practice b4 going back to school, it's
probably easiest to wait untill band class and borrow from another.
Tony Hwang
Jan 7, 2012, 11:46:48 PM1/7/12
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I am a bass player al y life. Use WD-40 to loosen up the pistons(;et
WD40 sip down)
And I use Blue Juice for lube. When I don't play for long term. I pull
all the pistons out. Good luck.
cl...@snyder.on.ca
Jan 8, 2012, 12:13:56 AM1/8/12
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On Sat, 7 Jan 2012 20:01:08 -0800, sam bruno <samb...@nowhere.com>
wrote:
A few drops of dishsoap in pure water.
Palmolive.
wrote:
Palmolive.
zxcvbob
Jan 8, 2012, 12:27:40 AM1/8/12
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and clean them.
Then I'd probably use baby oil for lube. But 3-in-1 oil is fine too.
-Bob
Michael Dobony
Jan 8, 2012, 10:03:28 AM1/8/12
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Michael Dobony
Jan 8, 2012, 10:05:24 AM1/8/12
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but many are also musicians and can give a better answer.
Joe keane
Jan 8, 2012, 1:56:26 PM1/8/12
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Anything can be fixed with duct tape or WD-40.
notbob
Jan 8, 2012, 3:46:45 PM1/8/12
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On 2012-01-08, zxcvbob <zxc...@charter.net> wrote:
> If they are stuck, use a penetrating oil like WD-40. Then pull them out
> and clean them.
>
> Then I'd probably use baby oil for lube. But 3-in-1 oil is fine too.
All these threads for all these years and ppl are still claiming wd40
> If they are stuck, use a penetrating oil like WD-40. Then pull them out
> and clean them.
>
> Then I'd probably use baby oil for lube. But 3-in-1 oil is fine too.
is an oil. Now it's a penetrating oil! Shame on you, Bob. Also,
baby oil (mineral) and 3-in-1 are not light oils.
TO OP: What!? You can post on usenet but can't buy some valve oil
online? GTFOH!!
notbob
Jan 8, 2012, 3:47:51 PM1/8/12
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Yet another cretin. GTFOH!
Stormin Mormon
Jan 8, 2012, 4:57:36 PM1/8/12
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Some years ago, I lubed a boy's bicycle chain with the cheap silicone lube
from Walmart. Popular Mechancis brand, in the black can. Shortly after that,
the boy and his family went home out of state. A couple days later, I heard
from his Aunt Agnes (who lives near me), the bike chain locked up. From what
I can guess, the walmart house brand is all solvent, and not much lube. By
that time, the bike was 200 miles away, and I couldn't do anything for him.
We were all very sad.
Snap brand silicone from Advance Auto is more pricey, but works well for me.
<j...@myplace.com> wrote in message
news:vopig7darkpu9078r...@4ax.com...
Or, go to Walmart and buy some silicone lube in a spray can. It's
made for auto and home use, and it stays on the item and is thin.
from Walmart. Popular Mechancis brand, in the black can. Shortly after that,
the boy and his family went home out of state. A couple days later, I heard
from his Aunt Agnes (who lives near me), the bike chain locked up. From what
I can guess, the walmart house brand is all solvent, and not much lube. By
that time, the bike was 200 miles away, and I couldn't do anything for him.
We were all very sad.
Snap brand silicone from Advance Auto is more pricey, but works well for me.
<j...@myplace.com> wrote in message
news:vopig7darkpu9078r...@4ax.com...
Or, go to Walmart and buy some silicone lube in a spray can. It's
made for auto and home use, and it stays on the item and is thin.
Stormin Mormon
Jan 8, 2012, 4:58:31 PM1/8/12
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We just had a long thread on electric motor oil. Maybe same for musical
insturment valves, ND-20?
insturment valves, ND-20?
Stormin Mormon
Jan 8, 2012, 5:01:32 PM1/8/12
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Young's Law of usenet: After Nazis have been
evoked and called forth from the spirit world,
someone is sure to mention WD-40. The debate
"is it a lubricant or water displacer" is not complete
until someone explains what the letters abbrev. for.
Points are earned by quoting usenet posters of old,
Aristotle, or your own personal experiences with
WD-40. Web pages abound, and are on topic for
the debate. Regardless of how worthy an argument
is, no one is allowed to change sides. The debate
must continue to eternity.
"notbob" <not...@nothome.com> wrote in message
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evoked and called forth from the spirit world,
someone is sure to mention WD-40. The debate
"is it a lubricant or water displacer" is not complete
until someone explains what the letters abbrev. for.
Points are earned by quoting usenet posters of old,
Aristotle, or your own personal experiences with
WD-40. Web pages abound, and are on topic for
the debate. Regardless of how worthy an argument
is, no one is allowed to change sides. The debate
must continue to eternity.
"notbob" <not...@nothome.com> wrote in message
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JIMMIE
Jan 8, 2012, 5:13:49 PM1/8/12
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On Jan 7, 11:01 pm, sam bruno <sambr...@nowhere.com> wrote:
> School starts Monday after a long recess and my kid's trumpet valves are
> stuck in place. We can't find the valve oil.
>
> It's not a life-or-death 'emergency' - but it got me thinking (not being a
> musician) what I could use that I had around the house to lubricate the
> valves.
>
> Unfortunately, I don't have 'sewing machine oil' at home (which googling
> says works ok). But I do have '3-in-1 household oil'.
>
> The MSDS says 3-in-1 is "Severely Hydrotreated Heavy Naphthenic Oil" (> 97%
> with 2% Naptha). PDF =http://tinyurl.com/6wlw2vs
> stuck in place. We can't find the valve oil.
>
> It's not a life-or-death 'emergency' - but it got me thinking (not being a
> musician) what I could use that I had around the house to lubricate the
> valves.
>
> Unfortunately, I don't have 'sewing machine oil' at home (which googling
> says works ok). But I do have '3-in-1 household oil'.
>
> The MSDS says 3-in-1 is "Severely Hydrotreated Heavy Naphthenic Oil" (> 97%
>
> That sounds horrid. The music store will be closed until the kid goes to
> school
>
> Googling some more, I see some people say that 'mineral oil' works (which I
> can probably get at a drug store, right?) but before I go farther, I wonder
> if anyone here has advice for an easily found substitute for trumpet oil on
> a Sunday (i.e., hardware or drug store chemical)?
>
> BTW, this ehow article says to use "lamp oil" and "essential oil" in
> addition to "scent oil" and "sewing machine oil". Is it just me or are most
> of these oils (with the exception of sewing machine oil) exotic or what?http://www.ehow.com/how_6201749_homemade-trumpet-valve-oil.html
Absolutely NO . The closest thing to trumpet oil is probably kerosene.
> That sounds horrid. The music store will be closed until the kid goes to
> school
>
> Googling some more, I see some people say that 'mineral oil' works (which I
> can probably get at a drug store, right?) but before I go farther, I wonder
> if anyone here has advice for an easily found substitute for trumpet oil on
> a Sunday (i.e., hardware or drug store chemical)?
>
> BTW, this ehow article says to use "lamp oil" and "essential oil" in
> addition to "scent oil" and "sewing machine oil". Is it just me or are most
> of these oils (with the exception of sewing machine oil) exotic or what?http://www.ehow.com/how_6201749_homemade-trumpet-valve-oil.html
But I wouldnt reccomend that either. I have used a little diswashing
detergent and water in a pinch. Unless he absolutely needs it before
school I wouldnt do anything . Wait till he gets to school and borrow
some.
Jimmie
Bob_Villa
Jan 8, 2012, 8:32:48 PM1/8/12
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On Jan 8, 4:01 pm, "Stormin Mormon"
solvent.
In a pinch I would use mineral oil.
<cayoung61***spambl...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> Young's Law of usenet: After Nazis have been
> evoked and called forth from the spirit world,
> someone is sure to mention WD-40. The debate
> "is it a lubricant or water displacer" is not complete
> until someone explains what the letters abbrev. for.
> Points are earned by quoting usenet posters of old,
> Aristotle, or your own personal experiences with
> WD-40. Web pages abound, and are on topic for
> the debate. Regardless of how worthy an argument
> is, no one is allowed to change sides. The debate
> must continue to eternity.
>
The word is "invoke". Silicone in a spray is grease thinned with
> Young's Law of usenet: After Nazis have been
> evoked and called forth from the spirit world,
> someone is sure to mention WD-40. The debate
> "is it a lubricant or water displacer" is not complete
> until someone explains what the letters abbrev. for.
> Points are earned by quoting usenet posters of old,
> Aristotle, or your own personal experiences with
> WD-40. Web pages abound, and are on topic for
> the debate. Regardless of how worthy an argument
> is, no one is allowed to change sides. The debate
> must continue to eternity.
>
solvent.
In a pinch I would use mineral oil.
Stormin Mormon
Jan 8, 2012, 9:05:56 PM1/8/12
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Since the valves are sticking, probably better to take it in, let the
teacher deal with it. The teacher will have better chance of fixing, and not
breaking some thing.
I remember being in 4th grade, and my teacher Mr. Orgar, telling horror
stories of fixes at home.
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Stormin Mormon
Jan 8, 2012, 9:07:07 PM1/8/12
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Oh, thanks. I'll try and remember to change that
in my text file.
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in my text file.
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zxcvbob
Jan 8, 2012, 10:12:16 PM1/8/12
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take it apart and clean the stuff out before it dries.
3-in-1 is a light oil. Lighter than WD-40, but without the solvents.
I did misuse the term "penetrating oil", but it *will* penetrate better
than sewing machine oil (because of the volatile solvents) if they can't
work the valve.
-Bob
sam bruno
Jan 9, 2012, 11:40:14 AM1/9/12
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On Sun, 8 Jan 2012 21:05:56 -0500, Stormin Mormon wrote:
> Since the valves are sticking, probably better to take it in, let the
> teacher deal with it.
> teacher deal with it.
TimR
Jan 9, 2012, 12:09:09 PM1/9/12
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I've used WD40 on a trumpet and it worked fine, at least for a one
hour practise session. I have no idea how it would do long term.
Valve oil is pretty cheap at any music store.
That's for the valves. Don't forget there are slides, probably four
of them, and they all have to work to play in tune. I use lanolin on
these, probably vaseline works too.
hour practise session. I have no idea how it would do long term.
Valve oil is pretty cheap at any music store.
That's for the valves. Don't forget there are slides, probably four
of them, and they all have to work to play in tune. I use lanolin on
these, probably vaseline works too.
Colton furlong
Mar 26, 2016, 2:44:06 PM3/26/16
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replying to sam bruno, Colton furlong wrote:
What kind of essential oil
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bob haller
Mar 26, 2016, 2:49:21 PM3/26/16
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its funny google is going into the self drive car business,
but isnt able to have decent software here:(
Oren
Mar 26, 2016, 3:47:24 PM3/26/16
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wrote:
>this thread is from 1/10/12 by now the kid has graduated from high school.
And most likely has been well lubricated at least once. "Oil of
Essence".
wrote:
>this thread is from 1/10/12 by now the kid has graduated from high school.
Essence".
Sydneytbee
Jul 6, 2016, 7:44:05 AM7/6/16
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replying to zxcvbob, Sydneytbee wrote:
WD-40 corrodes the nickle in horns (not reccomended)
WD-40 corrodes the nickle in horns (not reccomended)
Victor
Mar 7, 2017, 10:44:06 PM3/7/17
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replying to sam bruno, Victor wrote:
I haven't played my trumpet for about a year and the valves don't even move
what should I do
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I haven't played my trumpet for about a year and the valves don't even move
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Ken Olson
Mar 9, 2017, 11:25:19 PM3/9/17
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On 3/7/2017 10:44 PM, Victor wrote:
> replying to sam bruno, Victor wrote:
> I haven't played my trumpet for about a year and the valves don't even move
> what should I do
>
>
Take it to a pro.
> replying to sam bruno, Victor wrote:
> I haven't played my trumpet for about a year and the valves don't even move
> what should I do
>
>
Tekkie®
Mar 10, 2017, 3:52:07 PM3/10/17
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Victor posted for all of us...
Thor hammer
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Angelica
Apr 29, 2017, 10:14:05 PM4/29/17
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replying to Tony Hwang, Angelica wrote:
umm.... WD-40 will destroy your horn.. i wouldnt use that if i where you
umm.... WD-40 will destroy your horn.. i wouldnt use that if i where you
thekma...@gmail.com
Apr 30, 2017, 6:15:03 AM4/30/17
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WD40 is a CLEANER, NOT a lubricant!!!
(sticky)
(sticky)
Uncle Monster
Apr 30, 2017, 9:20:28 AM4/30/17
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On Sunday, April 30, 2017 at 5:15:03 AM UTC-5, thekma...@gmail.com wrote:
> WD40 is a CLEANER, NOT a lubricant!!!
> (sticky)
WD40 is a water displacer. That's what WD stands for. ヽ(ヅ)ノ
> WD40 is a CLEANER, NOT a lubricant!!!
> (sticky)
[8~{} Uncle Displaced Monster
Johnson
Jul 4, 2017, 12:14:07 PM7/4/17
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replying to clare, Johnson wrote:
yea you are right. I used the soap diluted in a ton of water and it worked
just as good as valve oil. Have 4th of July Parade today, hopefully it works
for a while
yea you are right. I used the soap diluted in a ton of water and it worked
just as good as valve oil. Have 4th of July Parade today, hopefully it works
for a while
Adam Barrow
Aug 19, 2017, 2:44:09 PM8/19/17
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replying to Tony Hwang, Adam Barrow wrote:
WD 40 will actually corrode the metal in the instrument.
WD 40 will actually corrode the metal in the instrument.
Ralph Mowery
Aug 19, 2017, 3:09:16 PM8/19/17
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In article <SF%lB.651633$284....@fx20.am4>,
caedfaa9ed1216d60ef...@example.com says...
caedfaa9ed1216d60ef...@example.com says...
>
> replying to Tony Hwang, Adam Barrow wrote:
> WD 40 will actually corrode the metal in the instrument.
But it will keep the water out of the valves.
> replying to Tony Hwang, Adam Barrow wrote:
> WD 40 will actually corrode the metal in the instrument.
Lysa Baldwin
Sep 9, 2017, 10:44:09 AM9/9/17
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replying to Tony Hwang, Lysa Baldwin wrote:
Don't use wd-40 that messes them up in a trumpet player
Don't use wd-40 that messes them up in a trumpet player
Lysa Baldwin
Sep 9, 2017, 10:44:09 AM9/9/17
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replying to sam bruno, Lysa Baldwin wrote:
Omg use baby oil I just tried it and it worked so good i start band I n Monday
too
Omg use baby oil I just tried it and it worked so good i start band I n Monday
too
Rissa
Nov 8, 2017, 9:44:09 PM11/8/17
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replying to sam bruno, Rissa wrote:
If you have canola oil or any kitchen/baking oil it should work just don't use
it too often in place of actual valve oil
If you have canola oil or any kitchen/baking oil it should work just don't use
it too often in place of actual valve oil
Reuben
Dec 11, 2017, 1:14:09 PM12/11/17
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replying to Johnson, Reuben wrote:
Can you use CarMax
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Smarty
Dec 25, 2017, 2:14:13 AM12/25/17
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replying to sam bruno, Smarty wrote:
You can use baby oil works fine fine only for a short while though good luck.
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Marv80205
Jun 22, 2018, 11:44:09 AM6/22/18
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replying to sam bruno, Marv80205 wrote:
Charcoal lighter fluid works great. Seriously. I use it for my trumpet.
Charcoal lighter fluid is a high grade kerosene and so is the valve oil you
purchase at the music store. It even smells the same. Plus, it's a whole lot
cheaper per ounce than what you get in those little bottles at the music
store. Just fill your old valve oil bottle with charcoal lighter fluid and
you'll see what I mean.
Charcoal lighter fluid works great. Seriously. I use it for my trumpet.
Charcoal lighter fluid is a high grade kerosene and so is the valve oil you
purchase at the music store. It even smells the same. Plus, it's a whole lot
cheaper per ounce than what you get in those little bottles at the music
store. Just fill your old valve oil bottle with charcoal lighter fluid and
you'll see what I mean.
Mike_Duffy
Jun 22, 2018, 1:16:18 PM6/22/18
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On Fri, 22 Jun 2018 15:44:04 GMT, Marv80205 wrote:
> Charcoal lighter fluid works great.
Hmmm. You might want to update the wiki entry. They seems to think that
> Charcoal lighter fluid works great.
trumpet oil is made from mineral oil; not kerosene.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Valve_oil
> Charcoal lighter fluid is a high grade kerosene.
Hmmm. Maybe you should update the 'Charcoal_lighter_fluid' entry as well.
They believe it is mineral spirits or alcohol; not kerosene.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charcoal_lighter_fluid
Wayne Boatwright
Jun 22, 2018, 2:33:24 PM6/22/18
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Sewing machine oil works well on brass instrument valves.
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Mark Slater
Sep 12, 2018, 11:44:06 PM9/12/18
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replying to Adam Barrow, Mark Slater wrote:
WD-40 is an anti-corrosive.
the only thing it's not good for is the lauqer that makes you instrument shiny.
Know what is corrosive? Water.
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WD-40 is an anti-corrosive.
the only thing it's not good for is the lauqer that makes you instrument shiny.
Know what is corrosive? Water.
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Mark Slater
Sep 12, 2018, 11:44:07 PM9/12/18
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replying to clare, Mark Slater wrote:
NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO!!!!!!!
Dish soap DESTROYS oil!!!!!
It's possibly the worst thing you can put in there!!!
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NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO!!!!!!!
Dish soap DESTROYS oil!!!!!
It's possibly the worst thing you can put in there!!!
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Trumpets101
Mar 31, 2019, 11:14:05 PM3/31/19
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replying to Tony Hwang, Trumpets101 wrote:
Don’t use WD40. It will corrode the silver in your instrument and cause a
lot of damage.
Don’t use WD40. It will corrode the silver in your instrument and cause a
lot of damage.
Reina
Mar 18, 2020, 8:44:08 AM3/18/20
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replying to Wayne Boatwright, Reina wrote:
I use mobil velocite oil #6 for my trumpet valves. It has been one year and
they are still smooth as hell. Be sure to oil and clean regularly. I prefer
velocite oil because they evaporate much slower than trumpet valve oil (only
need to oil twice a week. I play at least 1 hour everyday).
WD40 do not corrode your trumpet so don't worry about that. It contains only
alkanes which almost do not react even with sodium, let along copper. However,
they are extremely light oil and evaporate really fast, meaning your valve
will soon be out of protection and get corroded by water.
I use mobil velocite oil #6 for my trumpet valves. It has been one year and
they are still smooth as hell. Be sure to oil and clean regularly. I prefer
velocite oil because they evaporate much slower than trumpet valve oil (only
need to oil twice a week. I play at least 1 hour everyday).
WD40 do not corrode your trumpet so don't worry about that. It contains only
alkanes which almost do not react even with sodium, let along copper. However,
they are extremely light oil and evaporate really fast, meaning your valve
will soon be out of protection and get corroded by water.
No not WD-40
Mar 21, 2022, 3:31:17 PM3/21/22
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No dude not wd-40 that's how u get sick, sure it would work, but it's not worth your health
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