Painting and TSP
Michael J. Morgan, CPA
I notice in a prior thread someone mentioning cleaning and deglossing
walls with TSP. If you are the one that posted the message, or know
something about it, let me know. I am repainting my interior and the
walls are not covering well, even with tinted primer. I am using
Gliddens best paint.
techero
Michael J. Morgan, CPA wrote:
>
> I notice in a prior thread someone mentioning cleaning and deglossing
> walls with TSP.
is low foaming and rinses well with cold water. Also, it can be used to
degloss interior wood before painting but it does have to be
rinsed--better to use a regular deglosser (sometimes called "liquid
sandpaper"). TSP is not really intended for use on sheetrock.
--
Bruce Dishongh
tec...@prodigy.net
Kelley Mascher
I think I'm the one who mentioned TSP cleaning and deglossing in a
previous post.
If you're trying to cover a glossy paint the TSP might help increase
your coverage. But probably not a lot.
TSP works fine indoors. I washed the walls and ceiling with a foam mop
and then rinsed with the same type of mop and two buckets one for the
first rinse and one for the second. It's a lot easier than it sounds.
It took about an hour for a 10x12 bedroom.
The comment about TSP was taken from a thread about stain blocking.
I commented on one room where I didn't use Kilz, a stain blocker/primer
and had a terrible problem with coverage. The cure in my case wasn't
the TSP it was the Kilz.
Kelley
techero <tec...@prodigy.net> writes:
>--
>Bruce Dishongh
>tec...@prodigy.net
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Kelley Mascher (206) 528-2713
Children's Hospital & Med. Center mas...@u.washington.edu
Audiology Research Seattle, Washington USA
pksn...@lancnews.infi.net
mmo...@mindspring.com (Michael J. Morgan, CPA) wrote:
>I notice in a prior thread someone mentioning cleaning and deglossing
>walls with TSP. If you are the one that posted the message, or know
>something about it, let me know. I am repainting my interior and the
>walls are not covering well, even with tinted primer. I am using
>Gliddens best paint.
I believe I had also responded to a thread about this.A girl bought a
house and her mother was helping her to paint.She told her daughter to
wash the walls with dish washing liquid and the girl did not believe
this.I reccomended TSP because I think it is an excellent cleaner,no
suds and it takes the sheen off the paint.I have washed painted
plaster, drywall and wood with this.It also works well mixed with
bleach to clean mildew/moldy areas. It removes the dirt so that the
bleach will work - as bleach has no cleaning properties.This will give
a good foundation for the adhesion of the paint but I don't know if it
will address the "hideability" of the paint.
Pete
Richard Carlson
Some thing I know about. Trisodium Phosphate is a stong cleaner. I
haven't seen it for years because it contains high phosphates which
which doesn't help water quality. There are other substitutes and it
is probably still out there.
Yes, wall should be washed with a stong detergent such as this to
degloss the walls and remove grease etc. It it also a good idea to
sand lightly, plus it will get those little bumps out.
On Fri, 21 Mar 1997 18:05:01 GMT, mmo...@mindspring.com (Michael J.
Alan_Browning
In article <333563a...@news.spacestar.net>, di...@spacestar.net
says...
>
>Some thing I know about. Trisodium Phosphate is a stong cleaner. I
>haven't seen it for years because it contains high phosphates which
>which doesn't help water quality. There are other substitutes and it
>is probably still out there.
>
>Yes, wall should be washed with a stong detergent such as this to
>degloss the walls and remove grease etc. It it also a good idea to
>sand lightly, plus it will get those little bumps out.
the latex primers (I forget which) mentions this in the directions on
the side of the can. It says that TSP residue will affect the paint.
From experience I can tell you to wear rubber gloves, especially if you
have any cuts on your hands. TSP in a cut stings like a b*tch!
Alan
Jay Jacobs
Yes TSP is still available (perhaps not in all areas), but you may have
to look carefully in the right aisle of your paint store or homecenter.
DAP makes one that you will find in a red and white plastic container
(much like their spackling).
Use care when using this (gloves and goggles may be a good idea), and be
sure to rinse with water after cleaning.
Dave Crane
Alan_B...@brown.edu (Alan_Browning) wrote:
>Make sure you rinse the wall thoroughly after washing with TSP. One of
>the latex primers (I forget which) mentions this in the directions on
>the side of the can. It says that TSP residue will affect the paint.
>
>From experience I can tell you to wear rubber gloves, especially if you
>have any cuts on your hands. TSP in a cut stings like a b*tch!
DIYers should be aware that there is a phoney "TSP" on the
market that is NOT what this thread is about. The
abbreviation "TSP" means ONLY "trisodium phosphate" and it
is wonderful for cleaning. (And yes, it stings in a cut).
But there is a clown company out there selling a brand named
"TSP" that "contains no phosphates". Says so right on the
label! Read carefully.
Don't get ripped off by the fake. If you don't want
phosphates in your cleaner, buy something else. People who
try to use a generic name for a totally different product
should be strung up by their private parts.